he is talkin to them, maybe whisperin, but its all the wron words, because the language of horses (and many other animals) ars still silence, just gestures (sorry my bad english).
Breaking a horse is to make him pain, to break his will, his mind, in that way is the horse a victim.
I read Monty's first book as a shy teenager with a wonderful, but headstrong mustang who stepped all over me. I had very little adult help in learning to ride and establishing the right kid of relationship with my horse. Simply following his approach of pushing the horse away through body language and then allowing him back in to my space put a completely different spin on our relationship, and I still enjoy my old cantankerous horse to this day. Thanks, Monty.
it saddens me to read all the horrible comments on this video. Starting a horse in 23 mins is perfectly possible and i believe that monty roberts is a fabulous naturally gifted person
breaking? its Montys device to not break the horse. He talks to it and let it choose if it wants to follow or not. its absolutly stupid to say he wants to break it -.-
@batn044 He is giving the horse a choice whether to join him in the middle of the ring and for the horse put his trust in him. Breaking refers to the breaking of the horses spirit so that they have no will to fight against the 'trainer'. Monty Roberts method gives the horse a choice. Rather than intimidating the horse, he communicates with the horse using its own language. That is what he is doing.
I've read Monty's second book, The Horses in My Life, and it's honestly no surprise that for a long time he kept the join up technique a secret given the response he's received time and time again and is still receiving today from some people.
Not all techniques are for everyone but still the point remains: Monty proves you don't need force to train a horse to do what you want. Some people have something called a natural gift with horses and this man is one of them. He's proved it enough times.
Monty Roberts does not know if you read this statement as a video posted on YouTube is something that spreads in the outside world.
The important thing is that I wish I knew more thrilled with your video on rational taming horses'm really happy to see that there are people like you and I could no longer bear to see people wanting to have contact with animals brutally. Thanks for making my passion about human animals continue to exist. I will try and buy his book. God enlighten you.
Monte was SUED for FRAUD over claims he made in his book " THe Man Who Listens To Horses". He claimed to have worked with several well known horse people ( Ray Hunt, etc). They stated that they had never heard of him much less ever worked with him. When this came "out" Monte admitted that he LIED so people would give him more credibility. I also worked a clinic and he said had never worked with the horse before. In fact, he had worked it for 2 hours that morning so it would do what he wanted.
@kds6165 why do you keep posting this? no one needs THREE of your comments on one video, and to be honest, you just sound like a spammer - you're certainly not convincing me.
i saw this live. my dad and i own a ranch not far from his so we brought him one of the mustangs my dad tranquilized. this is not fake. he not only prooved it to me but to my dad a veterinary expert.
Monty's claim is he can train any horse in 30 minutes...Any sensible person knows this is impossible. I helped work at one of his clinics and he LIES. He claims that he has never worked with the horse before, when the truth is that he worked the horse for 2 hours that morning in order to get it to do what he wanted.
@kds6165 Join up doesn't work if the horse doesn't know you in the first place. But this is real. It is about communicating with a horse through it's own language. Using the aggresive body stance you are showing the horse that you are stronger than them; that you will protect them. It is the horse's choice whether or not to join you in the ring, to put its trust in you. If you do not believe this, you're clearly ignorant to the truth in front of you. Say what you like, but Monty is NOT a fake
This is what partnership between man and horse looks like. Mutual respect. No power games. No name-calling. Reassurance, care, and calm interest. Great job. Horses that have been well handled are a joy to meet, and are wonderful companions.I did not see any problems with how this horse was handled at all.
It has been confirmed and "documented' that Monte is a FRAUD. In the original version of his book " The Man who Listens to horses" he claimed to have worked with several very well known horse people . Afterwards all of these people replied and stated that they had never worked with him or even actualy heard of him prior to the book.
Also, I work at one of his clinics. He told the audience he had NEVER worked with the horse when in fact he worked it for 2 hours that morning. I watched him..
@kds6165 Incredible. I read he also allowed a lady to bring him her mustang, then sent it w/another trainer on Flag is Up farms to be walked around on lead line for awhile. Sent it home claiming he had trained the horse himself, & the horse ended up injuring the owner pretty bad. When she brought him to court, he did some shady stuff & won the case. He afterwards claimed "Mustangs are untrainable" (this was AFTER his Shy Boy documentary). :-L
@4Champ2and0 mentally stressful? Hahahhaa he's following monty around a round pen without being led, he looks so stressed doesn't he? No. He doesn't. The only "mentally stressful" part is a rope being flicked at his back legs in order to make him follow round the pen but you obviously never lunge your horses and use a whip eh? ;) didn't realise you were such an expert, monty should be shaking in his boots!!! :L
@BrendonandRyro You, like so many others, are blinded by ignorance. Believing what the eyes see, instead of searching for the truth behind the show. But your ill-mannered comment is a good example of someone who cares so little about their horse that they refuse to look past tradition to find knowledge that could make their horses lives, that we control, a much more pleasant experience.
@ajlover16 i have the same problem, but i take jump stands and place them in a circle, then take rope or something like that and rap it around so you create a circle, done :)
I'm sorry, but this method is out dated & mentally stressful for the horse. It is a prey animal being trapped & chased into submission. In the early 1990's & before, this method was a good improvement, but now its 2011 & we have advanced. Friendship Training (FT) doesn't require the use of any aids or restricted enclosures. It teaches trust, communication, & boundaries w/out violence or pressure/release. This does not mean the horse is unruly, or babied, but it IS respected & treated fairly.
i agree that there are newer methods or adaptations of trust and "relationship" building such as, monty roberts "join up", parelli, andrew mclean "cognitive learning methods" and like you said advanced friendship training which are very much the same thing but with slight adaptations and different more fancy names. but a respectfully disagree he does say just as he starts that he is avoiding a fear response and that he is simply carrying out an act that horses would naturally do.
this is the behaviour a dam would carry out with the foal if it was to missbehave it is not to bring out a fear response but to teach respect as there is a hierachy within a herd, may they be ferral or domesticated herd. the horse must respect you and vice-vicer as trust is a two way street. some people see each apprach as black and white, but is just shades of grey.
@taftification No no, don't apologize, I enjoy the discussion! =) However, Friendship Training (FT) is actually not AT ALL like the for mentioned training tech. I strongly encourage you to Google FT & read the info explaining this on the web site. It is a VERY interesting read, & is eye opening for those who are GENUINELY concerned about their horses mental well being, & want to form a bond based on more than just dominance/submission, pressure/release.
I once loaned a completely wild mare called Tiny. She would attack you if you forced her to do anything. The most you could do was watch her in the field and stroke her over the fence. Then she had a foal and when he was two months old Tiny's real owner came and just took the away, along with two other ponies we were loaning and an expensive rug we had bought.
We never saw her again. If only I had known about Join-Up then. I would have used it on Tiny and we could have bought her off her owner.
Monty Roberts is a kind man and has the best interests of horses at heart. I do feel that I would like to represent the school of thought which does not encourage round pen training. 'Join up' occurs when a horses natural response to flee danger is not possible and so submits to the trainer. This is known as learned helplessness and is not a sign of trust but a sign that he has reached the end of his emotional tether. Please research clicker training as it a far less stressful technique.
@molly184439 i can see where yourcoming from i do respect your opinion. but join up is something that mimics a natural behaviour for a wild and even domesticated horse. and involves "positive and negative reinforcement"(operant condition) (basically classical and operant/instrumental conditioning) whereas clicker training teaches by only positive reinforcement (conditioning the clicker with food/reward) and some people may believe that to be teaching via bribary.
@taftification I appreciate your points but I'd like to offer a different perspective. I am hesitant to assume that horses react to what we do to them in the way they react to each other but the fundamental problem for me is the entrapment. I know u would agree this is unnatural.? I also wonder what u mean when u say 'bribary'? The teaching is done totally through reward but is this not a good thing? Eventually you do phase out the click-treat once the behaviour is learned and on a cue :-)
i love the way he trusts the horse and dosnt care about her bucking and rearring he just cares about teaching the horse for its own benifit. he is an insperation
If the horse doesn't stop walking round the edge, passively walk into the path of the horse so they stop, the moment u reach the wall turn and face away!
I don't think Join-Up is something special. When i work normally (longe) with a horse in the round pen, it usually is licking and chewing after some minutes and putting the head down. And then the horse comes to me, too and is following me, too.. ;D
I've just started loaning a 16 yo mare. I've been trying join up with her. She shows all the signs that she is ready to join up, but never comes in to me, and often won't even stop walking around when I drop my eyes and body. I have tried approaching her passively then turning away, she will follow me for a min, then she veers off to the exit. She's a stubborn horse and the loner in her field. I have done join up a few times before with ponies, no problems.
@hk5711 I have a horse of my own and the first time I did Join-Up with him, it took about 10 minutes for him to come to me after he showed all the signs. He had been alone in a pasture for 2 years but once he came to me he followed me around easily. Some horses will take longer because they're all different. Patience is the key here and it will be very rewarding in the end. :)
@nimpfi weil das pferd mit sicherheit vorher schon ein paar joinups hatte und sich vorher mit ihm beschäftigt wurde. außerdem ist es doch nur ein verkürzteres video davon, du glaubst doch nich etwa, dass er dem pferd den sattel aufschmeißt, es buckeln lässt und dann sofort jemanden draufsetzt? ist doch nur ne kurzversion. und manche pferde brauchen eben länger manche kürzer. ich bin mir sicher, es war schon die richtige zeit fürs pferd..
Amazing video made me cry this convo between horse and human is amazinfg and i would love to try it. I was wondering do u have to keep them in canter when they are going away or is trot still ok?
It's really impressive, I informed myself about the methods of him, Andrea Kutsch, Linda t-Jones and read the book "How to think like a horse" (don't know the author right now) and it helps me so much. I mixed up the methods and found the best for me and the horses I ride/take care of. =)
I myself have to rely on some type of methods. With all the horses going to slaughter and I have at least one candidate for such. It is necessary to learn some sort of methods to communicate with the horse.
If you read the intro it says thirty minutes. Ten minutes is the length of film that can be uploaded onto YouTube. Frankly if he had taken 2 hours it would still have been impressive.
The only way for someone to believe this who is a die-hard non believer Is to see it live. Even better is live with a horse you know and he doesn't. I've seen him live. It works for him everytime. It's not a illusion. He offers a course if your really interested.
I used this same idea with tons of horses and it worked really well for them. But now I've got this new stallion who seems hell bound and determined to just keep going. I've managed to get the ear but not the others. I don't get what isn't working since I didn't have this problem with the other two stallions that later got sold. Any ideas?
@alialialiABC Can't, need him intact for stud later. At least he's not a pain around mares...at least not as bad as some stallions. He just doesn't seam to have much respect for humans...
@roguerider123 yeah we have a foal like that, he's 3 weeks and already ruling the roost. He tries to climb the walls and get out to mount the mares, he's 3 weeks! fml.
He may not have much respect for humans because of his immaturity? You should gain his trust and confidence, with that, the respect should come.
@trinitymiller13 More like bonding with the horse. He offers the horse friendship and trust, and the horse is accepting, thus creating a special bond. He's dominating of the horse, but with absense of violence, making the horse want to have him as his leader.
That's why the horse lets him put on a saddle. It trusts him.
any one who spends enough time around horse would know this instinctively its not rocket science .. just common horse sense ...now Richard winters is someone i admire
@nelsongarrett98 I used to do it all the time with my old boy. We got him when he was 3 and I'm pretty sure the stable we bought him from had drugged him. When I rode him at their facility he was bombproof. But as soon as we had him out in a similar setting at my house, the spooking and bucking set in. Then we were introduced to join-up. It was like the perfect fix for his spookiness. This is something you can and may need to repeat more than once. Works every time.
So.... "Run until you collapse or surrender...". Is that really fair to the horse? Ive never liked the term "break a horse"... I Know alot of people probably dont agree with me, and thats fine. But I just choose to think of it differently...
@amerryamerry This is actually based on a natural behavior done by wild and feral horses. Mustang herds will force newcomers to circle around the herd until they show the submissive behavior offered by the horse in this video. That's the whole basis of the technique: au naturale.
@MrTrees4u@MrTrees4u Well, step 1 is getting a horse into a halter and a lead...these devices need to be used in order to get the horse into the pen! The point is to move this horse into the next step of training, past the basics of halter and lead.
horses shouldnt be forced into being ridden etc, im not sayying all horses should be left to run wild etc, most of the horses i ride would hate that, they like nothing better than going round a course of show jumps with me, they just shouldnt be bullied into anything
Very lovely and inspiring horse training. I have seen these horse behaviors and never understood what they meant until now. Now It all seems so clear. Also this has made it so much easier to even catch the horses as I used to stand square on and look them in the eye and wonder why they would walk away, not understanding I was sending them away and making it hard to catch them even tho I was always very loving & respectful to them. Now it makes sense. Monty is amazing & inspiring, I love this.
Niesamowita technika, cały NH jest wspaniały. Dopiero zaczynam swoją przygodę, wiem że to jest ta trudniejsza, i zarazem lepsza droga jeździectwa.. ; ))
This guy definitely knows what he is doing and I cant wait to learn more from him. I already joined up with my horse long ago but it still fascinates me and I still love watching it happen!
@xxEkatxx But if you're going to gain this trust, you have to get some knowledge first. People who watch this video, will probably try to do the same, without the knowledge that Monty has, and then they will probably end up with having their horses completely nuts, because they can't trust their leader...
Okey, guys. Sorry for my opinions about stuff, but.. It's just my thoughts about it. Maybe this isn't so bad, what do I know? But there's so many other persons out there that will try this, and.. I have respect for this dude, but those who wants to do the same needs some more information, than just this video. If they're trying to do the same, they will probably do as I wrote before. But then again - It's just my thought..
for a good apprenticeship (saddling, riding etc) you need very very much time, for shure. but the join up can really help with young or "wild" horses. :) I like his methods and use some of them frequently, they're really good.
Mr. rodneywbrown. It seems you have a extremely limited and incorrect knowledge of Mr. Roberts handling of horses. Try reading some of his books and you will realize you were wrong.
Can it be done without a round pen? It's so amazing to see, I read all of the Heartland books and loved the sound of join up, its just as amazing as it sounds :D If I ever have the money and time to have a horse, I would definitely use these techniques - trust is so important with horses :)
i want to try this with my 3 year old when hes ready to be broke do you /need/ a round pen or can i use a lounge line? i dont have access to a round pen or small paddock for that matter...
@unstirrup I saw Monty do a demo with Kelly Marks in the UK a few days ago. He actually mentioned that you can use jump poles and set them out in the shape of an octagon if you don't have any kind of pen. I guess you would have to raise them off the ground a bit though.
@unstirrup i think u can do it with a lunch rein but leave it long and loose but it would be better with a pen a riddin ring or small paddock or somthin! good luck!
This was awesome..so calmly done. I see no pressure, the horse wanted to connect with Monty. Used this technique with my mare and it really works. She did exactly what that mare did....nudge me on my back...Monty your a star.
einiges von monty ist ja ganz gut , doch diese demonstration missfällt mir. für ein junges oder ungerittenes pferd ist es eine tortour . alles auf einmal ist einfach ein horror für das pferd. armer pferd.....
Wäre es ein Horror, dann würde das Pferd traumatisiert reagieren, d.h. durcknallen, oder laut nach dem Schlachter wiehern, auf das der Horror endlich ein Ende fände.
Actually it is a matter of cooperation instead of repression. I know that the latter is a beloved doctrine that still affects our whole life - in this way we often shape policy, and not only that, got that?
this is how all horses should be 'shown the saddle'. It's so much nicer, safer and less painful to the horse and is safer for the people who would like to ride the horse as well. It also takes less time than to 'break' the horse in. A lovely lady who I once knew trained with Monty Roberts for a number of years and before she left the stable bought a filly, she had it saddled in just under an hour, not as impressive as this but everyone was shocked as this fill was notoriously unruly. I loved it.
I've seen alot of people saying "my horse already follows me" well, thats great. It means your horse already trusts you. along with some "temporary" stuff. Well you get that horse to trust you completely, and then just disappear? Its clearly going to have some confusion.
Ive tried this on 1 of horses and it worked! Although Im planning to do it with the pthers too.
Its not anything stupid like twitchers or force, its pure, come to me if you trust me! I think its amazing and great! The horse WANTED to come to Monty . So everyone saying it doesnt work is wrong.
I would never, ever make this on my horses. And you shouldn't if your not perfectly sure how to do it! It can ruin your horse alot more then you think. But I like Monty Roberts(:
I've done this several times on several horses and it definitely works-temperarily. The horse will follow you around like a dog for the rest of the day, but if u come back a week later don't expect your horse to respect u the same as it did the day u joined up with it. At least for my horses:)))
But then again it's ok to do this several times, or just lunge it in general, it gives both u and the horse practice, and gets the horse warmed up before a day of riding:)
@mycricketismylove Yep, agreed, it doesn't get your horse to follow you permanently the first time you do it. However, I used this over and over in conjunction with halter training my horse, and it helped it make sense to him. Now he follows me around the farm like a dog ALL the time!
Okey, okey. I probably overreacted a bit about this video, but I watched so many videos that night that made me totally sick! I just can't watch horses that is going through pain. Ofcourse I can see that this horse ain't in pain, but I'm just saying something about the method. So many people are misunderstanding it. I'm sorry for hissing up so much about this one. But I meant what I said.. Some times it really does break down the horses wildness..
Im going to try this tomarrow with a horse (he was a mustang but he is now about 8 yrs) named Saber. I have full trust that Monty Roberts method of starting horses is going to work. Heck, hes done it for YEARS! And the horse i want to try Join Up with hasnt been a misbehaving horse. But Im going to see if i can Join up with him any way :]
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Omg. I really can't watch this! Can't you guys see that this will only break down what's left of the wildness inside the horse? And that the horse knows that it has to obey before this dude will stop? Horsemanship is the worst thing I know of. Especially when they're doing it this way. They make their horses run in a circle around them until they're tired of it, and gives up. Remember that you can never make your self the leader of the horse. You have to deserve the respect!
@zirosugar Reading your reply shows you clearly know almost nothing about horses. Monty is using his body language to "speak" to the horse in a language the horse understands. He is not "breaking the horse" at all, he is asking the horse to join up and be a partner. The old traditional way of "breaking a horse" is cruel and damaging, but this is far far gentler and far more humane. Try actually doing some research before you pass judgment on something you cobviously know nothing about.
@zirosugar Sorry but if the horse really thought it was that terrible it would NEVER choose to be with Monty. It would never do that if it was afraid or if it was just because it "gave up". If it was a pack of wolves chasing the horse and the horse was scared and knew they would never stop until it "obeyed" it still wouldn't just stop and go to the wolves. That would be suicide for the horse.
@zirosugar ur actually sum serious retard .. compared how some people break their horses tying one leg up and leaving the run around fallin over till their litterally absoultly wrecked so the horse just could not give a shit wat happens .. so u can try and do it and have aa horse that will be an absolute cunt 2 u
has anyone watching this used this method? i want to try it on my friends horse coz he's quite nervous. does it work first time or have you had to keep trying?
When I first saw Monty doing "join-up' I was in awe. It seemed like magic. Six years later, I can see things that don't seem fair to a horse needing partnership and training. This horse is showing submissive behavior way before Monty let's him stop like when the horse keeps trying to lower it's head & licking in submission & Monty keeps pushing him on. At the end when the "joined-up" horse is suppose to want to follow him as a partner, Monty is still handling the halter to control him.
@SuperPiraatje Nope I think it is all right to have your opinion :) I think that Montys way is as good as any, but I too prefer taking it a bit slower :)
@horseanddoglover777 It IS to bond with a horse!! This method should absolutely be the first resort when dealing with horses - communicating with them in a language they understand ie their own. I have used this method on nervous and previously abused horses of my own and it absolutely works. It calmed my old pony down when she was tacked up as she used to get beaten when ridden. I'd join up, tack up, join up, ride. When i got her she used to shake at the right of people. She is now confident :)
So many people are misunderstanding this. He made this method so he could calm down wild horses before they should with the transport to USA from Australia. And no it's not something you should do on your sweet little pony at home. This is a very dangerous tool and it must not be used unless the last resort is to slaughter a horse!
@hyperactivekitten I had a lesson on this, and it can be used to gain trust of ANY horse! you can even use it on hard to catch horses to get them used to handling and it is beneficial to any horse, teaching them to trust you and accept your handling
@horseanddoglover777 No! Many people are misunderstanding this Join Up methode. You shall NEVER use it on your little sweet horse there are standing so sweet in the stable. NEVER! This is only for emergences.. ;)
@horseanddoglover777 I wuoldnt if you are a beginner however... Get plenty of experience first so you understand what your horse is telling you before you try and immitate and read body language.
@batn044
he is talkin to them, maybe whisperin, but its all the wron words, because the language of horses (and many other animals) ars still silence, just gestures (sorry my bad english).
Breaking a horse is to make him pain, to break his will, his mind, in that way is the horse a victim.
Lunascoresby 1 week ago
wonderful monty roberts is a very talented person
julitko 1 week ago
Absolutly amazing. I couldnt live without his method of join up.
Surferpin 3 weeks ago
Thanks for being there, Monty. If only more people would listen.
AnimalLeftist 1 month ago
I read Monty's first book as a shy teenager with a wonderful, but headstrong mustang who stepped all over me. I had very little adult help in learning to ride and establishing the right kid of relationship with my horse. Simply following his approach of pushing the horse away through body language and then allowing him back in to my space put a completely different spin on our relationship, and I still enjoy my old cantankerous horse to this day. Thanks, Monty.
MollyEunice 1 month ago 8
it saddens me to read all the horrible comments on this video. Starting a horse in 23 mins is perfectly possible and i believe that monty roberts is a fabulous naturally gifted person
pahguitar 1 month ago 6
breaking? its Montys device to not break the horse. He talks to it and let it choose if it wants to follow or not. its absolutly stupid to say he wants to break it -.-
MarvellousStableRAWS 1 month ago 3
he is not breaking the horse! he makes him familiair?
sorry for my english..
angelsee19 2 months ago
he dont BREAKS the horse....
Lunascoresby 2 months ago
@Lunascoresby so what is he doing ?
batn044 1 month ago
@batn044 He is giving the horse a choice whether to join him in the middle of the ring and for the horse put his trust in him. Breaking refers to the breaking of the horses spirit so that they have no will to fight against the 'trainer'. Monty Roberts method gives the horse a choice. Rather than intimidating the horse, he communicates with the horse using its own language. That is what he is doing.
flowerpothead66 2 weeks ago
I've read Monty's second book, The Horses in My Life, and it's honestly no surprise that for a long time he kept the join up technique a secret given the response he's received time and time again and is still receiving today from some people.
Not all techniques are for everyone but still the point remains: Monty proves you don't need force to train a horse to do what you want. Some people have something called a natural gift with horses and this man is one of them. He's proved it enough times.
beccaakakratnoff 2 months ago 3
Monty Roberts does not know if you read this statement as a video posted on YouTube is something that spreads in the outside world.
The important thing is that I wish I knew more thrilled with your video on rational taming horses'm really happy to see that there are people like you and I could no longer bear to see people wanting to have contact with animals brutally. Thanks for making my passion about human animals continue to exist. I will try and buy his book. God enlighten you.
HenriqueBiil 2 months ago
Monte was SUED for FRAUD over claims he made in his book " THe Man Who Listens To Horses". He claimed to have worked with several well known horse people ( Ray Hunt, etc). They stated that they had never heard of him much less ever worked with him. When this came "out" Monte admitted that he LIED so people would give him more credibility. I also worked a clinic and he said had never worked with the horse before. In fact, he had worked it for 2 hours that morning so it would do what he wanted.
kds6165 2 months ago
@kds6165 why do you keep posting this? no one needs THREE of your comments on one video, and to be honest, you just sound like a spammer - you're certainly not convincing me.
hannahhortonx 2 months ago
@hannahhortonx What an asshole you are.
RavenHatterWriting 1 month ago
i saw this live. my dad and i own a ranch not far from his so we brought him one of the mustangs my dad tranquilized. this is not fake. he not only prooved it to me but to my dad a veterinary expert.
abecslides 3 months ago
This guy is a crock. He really is. Look somewhere else for great training. Doing his way is how you get hurt.
KrystalDavies 3 months ago
Monty's claim is he can train any horse in 30 minutes...Any sensible person knows this is impossible. I helped work at one of his clinics and he LIES. He claims that he has never worked with the horse before, when the truth is that he worked the horse for 2 hours that morning in order to get it to do what he wanted.
kds6165 3 months ago
@kds6165 Join up doesn't work if the horse doesn't know you in the first place. But this is real. It is about communicating with a horse through it's own language. Using the aggresive body stance you are showing the horse that you are stronger than them; that you will protect them. It is the horse's choice whether or not to join you in the ring, to put its trust in you. If you do not believe this, you're clearly ignorant to the truth in front of you. Say what you like, but Monty is NOT a fake
flowerpothead66 2 weeks ago
This is what partnership between man and horse looks like. Mutual respect. No power games. No name-calling. Reassurance, care, and calm interest. Great job. Horses that have been well handled are a joy to meet, and are wonderful companions.I did not see any problems with how this horse was handled at all.
OceanSwimmer 3 months ago
It has been confirmed and "documented' that Monte is a FRAUD. In the original version of his book " The Man who Listens to horses" he claimed to have worked with several very well known horse people . Afterwards all of these people replied and stated that they had never worked with him or even actualy heard of him prior to the book.
Also, I work at one of his clinics. He told the audience he had NEVER worked with the horse when in fact he worked it for 2 hours that morning. I watched him..
kds6165 3 months ago
@kds6165 Incredible. I read he also allowed a lady to bring him her mustang, then sent it w/another trainer on Flag is Up farms to be walked around on lead line for awhile. Sent it home claiming he had trained the horse himself, & the horse ended up injuring the owner pretty bad. When she brought him to court, he did some shady stuff & won the case. He afterwards claimed "Mustangs are untrainable" (this was AFTER his Shy Boy documentary). :-L
4Champ2and0 3 months ago
@4Champ2and0 mentally stressful? Hahahhaa he's following monty around a round pen without being led, he looks so stressed doesn't he? No. He doesn't. The only "mentally stressful" part is a rope being flicked at his back legs in order to make him follow round the pen but you obviously never lunge your horses and use a whip eh? ;) didn't realise you were such an expert, monty should be shaking in his boots!!! :L
BrendonandRyro 3 months ago
@BrendonandRyro You, like so many others, are blinded by ignorance. Believing what the eyes see, instead of searching for the truth behind the show. But your ill-mannered comment is a good example of someone who cares so little about their horse that they refuse to look past tradition to find knowledge that could make their horses lives, that we control, a much more pleasant experience.
4Champ2and0 3 months ago
what if you don`t have a round pen but an arena
ajlover16 3 months ago
@ajlover16 i have the same problem, but i take jump stands and place them in a circle, then take rope or something like that and rap it around so you create a circle, done :)
TheAlexandraKass 3 months ago
I'm sorry, but this method is out dated & mentally stressful for the horse. It is a prey animal being trapped & chased into submission. In the early 1990's & before, this method was a good improvement, but now its 2011 & we have advanced. Friendship Training (FT) doesn't require the use of any aids or restricted enclosures. It teaches trust, communication, & boundaries w/out violence or pressure/release. This does not mean the horse is unruly, or babied, but it IS respected & treated fairly.
4Champ2and0 3 months ago
@4Champ2and0
i agree that there are newer methods or adaptations of trust and "relationship" building such as, monty roberts "join up", parelli, andrew mclean "cognitive learning methods" and like you said advanced friendship training which are very much the same thing but with slight adaptations and different more fancy names. but a respectfully disagree he does say just as he starts that he is avoiding a fear response and that he is simply carrying out an act that horses would naturally do.
taftification 3 months ago
@4Champ2and0
sorry for the essay...
this is the behaviour a dam would carry out with the foal if it was to missbehave it is not to bring out a fear response but to teach respect as there is a hierachy within a herd, may they be ferral or domesticated herd. the horse must respect you and vice-vicer as trust is a two way street. some people see each apprach as black and white, but is just shades of grey.
not intended to sound like a rant :)
taftification 3 months ago
@taftification No no, don't apologize, I enjoy the discussion! =) However, Friendship Training (FT) is actually not AT ALL like the for mentioned training tech. I strongly encourage you to Google FT & read the info explaining this on the web site. It is a VERY interesting read, & is eye opening for those who are GENUINELY concerned about their horses mental well being, & want to form a bond based on more than just dominance/submission, pressure/release.
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@taftification I would love to hear your thoughts about it if you decide to check it out! =)
4Champ2and0 3 months ago
i havent got a round pen, any way you can do this in an arena?
CozzaLovesBingo 3 months ago
Can you do this without a pen? What if you only have a field?
LeppardPrintAnimal 4 months ago
OMG this is soooooooooooo amazing!!!!
caroolinixxx 4 months ago
this is awesome!!!
thevagrants 4 months ago
amazing...can i say more?
oh, but i think its so funny and stupid how everyone is trying to say the "best" and most "insprational" comment that will get the most votes.
horselover4ever131 5 months ago
Who the hell would dislike this amazing video?????
horsesar1 5 months ago
I once loaned a completely wild mare called Tiny. She would attack you if you forced her to do anything. The most you could do was watch her in the field and stroke her over the fence. Then she had a foal and when he was two months old Tiny's real owner came and just took the away, along with two other ponies we were loaning and an expensive rug we had bought.
We never saw her again. If only I had known about Join-Up then. I would have used it on Tiny and we could have bought her off her owner.
FantasyFilly 5 months ago
@FantasyFilly I meant 'took them away', not' took the away'. :P
FantasyFilly 5 months ago
Monty Roberts is a kind man and has the best interests of horses at heart. I do feel that I would like to represent the school of thought which does not encourage round pen training. 'Join up' occurs when a horses natural response to flee danger is not possible and so submits to the trainer. This is known as learned helplessness and is not a sign of trust but a sign that he has reached the end of his emotional tether. Please research clicker training as it a far less stressful technique.
molly184439 5 months ago
@molly184439 i can see where yourcoming from i do respect your opinion. but join up is something that mimics a natural behaviour for a wild and even domesticated horse. and involves "positive and negative reinforcement"(operant condition) (basically classical and operant/instrumental conditioning) whereas clicker training teaches by only positive reinforcement (conditioning the clicker with food/reward) and some people may believe that to be teaching via bribary.
healthy discussion thats all :)
taftification 3 months ago
@taftification I appreciate your points but I'd like to offer a different perspective. I am hesitant to assume that horses react to what we do to them in the way they react to each other but the fundamental problem for me is the entrapment. I know u would agree this is unnatural.? I also wonder what u mean when u say 'bribary'? The teaching is done totally through reward but is this not a good thing? Eventually you do phase out the click-treat once the behaviour is learned and on a cue :-)
molly184439 3 months ago
i love the way he trusts the horse and dosnt care about her bucking and rearring he just cares about teaching the horse for its own benifit. he is an insperation
katieruss2k11 5 months ago
If the horse doesn't stop walking round the edge, passively walk into the path of the horse so they stop, the moment u reach the wall turn and face away!
IPTROOTS 6 months ago
I don't think Join-Up is something special. When i work normally (longe) with a horse in the round pen, it usually is licking and chewing after some minutes and putting the head down. And then the horse comes to me, too and is following me, too.. ;D
Knoedlii 6 months ago
Can anyone advise me?
I've just started loaning a 16 yo mare. I've been trying join up with her. She shows all the signs that she is ready to join up, but never comes in to me, and often won't even stop walking around when I drop my eyes and body. I have tried approaching her passively then turning away, she will follow me for a min, then she veers off to the exit. She's a stubborn horse and the loner in her field. I have done join up a few times before with ponies, no problems.
Help?
hk5711 6 months ago
@hk5711 I have a horse of my own and the first time I did Join-Up with him, it took about 10 minutes for him to come to me after he showed all the signs. He had been alone in a pasture for 2 years but once he came to me he followed me around easily. Some horses will take longer because they're all different. Patience is the key here and it will be very rewarding in the end. :)
thefinalstar1 6 months ago
wie kann man das gutfinden?
warum muß man ein pferd innerhalb einer halben stunden reiten können?!
das arme tier ist klatschnass und total durcheinander
machts nicht mehr spaß, sich sachen zusammen mit seinem pferd zu erarbeiten und gemeinsam zu lernen?!
nimpfi 7 months ago
@nimpfi weil das pferd mit sicherheit vorher schon ein paar joinups hatte und sich vorher mit ihm beschäftigt wurde. außerdem ist es doch nur ein verkürzteres video davon, du glaubst doch nich etwa, dass er dem pferd den sattel aufschmeißt, es buckeln lässt und dann sofort jemanden draufsetzt? ist doch nur ne kurzversion. und manche pferde brauchen eben länger manche kürzer. ich bin mir sicher, es war schon die richtige zeit fürs pferd..
JosieJoyful 7 months ago
Amazing video made me cry this convo between horse and human is amazinfg and i would love to try it. I was wondering do u have to keep them in canter when they are going away or is trot still ok?
SuperRachx 7 months ago
why is he not coming to de R.D.S this year..? please come..
jammieleexoxo 7 months ago
hes soooo amazing... i wish my old pony was trained by him ;)
jammieleexoxo 7 months ago
It's really impressive, I informed myself about the methods of him, Andrea Kutsch, Linda t-Jones and read the book "How to think like a horse" (don't know the author right now) and it helps me so much. I mixed up the methods and found the best for me and the horses I ride/take care of. =)
FunnySunshineRider 7 months ago
I myself have to rely on some type of methods. With all the horses going to slaughter and I have at least one candidate for such. It is necessary to learn some sort of methods to communicate with the horse.
horsewhisperlad 7 months ago
i have the dvd. this guy has cheated you all, it shows him put on the bridle and some other stuff. you see the whole thirty minutes, not just ten
MountMustang 7 months ago
AND it cuts you off at the end
MountMustang 7 months ago
@MountMustang
If you read the intro it says thirty minutes. Ten minutes is the length of film that can be uploaded onto YouTube. Frankly if he had taken 2 hours it would still have been impressive.
TheSpiritof1969 6 months ago
The only way for someone to believe this who is a die-hard non believer Is to see it live. Even better is live with a horse you know and he doesn't. I've seen him live. It works for him everytime. It's not a illusion. He offers a course if your really interested.
FORDEVR 8 months ago
the discription says 'monty breaks a horse' . i think this can be everything (if its positive), but not 'breaking a horse'
rosannepaardengek 8 months ago
beautiful video
plutocookie 8 months ago
Muito lindo!! Maravilhoso, me encanto sempre que assisto a esse vídeo. Virei fã.
simonerossatoingles 8 months ago
do you have a Horse of your own?
trinitymiller13 9 months ago
I used this same idea with tons of horses and it worked really well for them. But now I've got this new stallion who seems hell bound and determined to just keep going. I've managed to get the ear but not the others. I don't get what isn't working since I didn't have this problem with the other two stallions that later got sold. Any ideas?
roguerider123 9 months ago
@roguerider123 Geld him lol
alialialiABC 8 months ago
@alialialiABC Can't, need him intact for stud later. At least he's not a pain around mares...at least not as bad as some stallions. He just doesn't seam to have much respect for humans...
roguerider123 8 months ago
@roguerider123 yeah we have a foal like that, he's 3 weeks and already ruling the roost. He tries to climb the walls and get out to mount the mares, he's 3 weeks! fml.
He may not have much respect for humans because of his immaturity? You should gain his trust and confidence, with that, the respect should come.
alialialiABC 8 months ago
wow...that is truley amazing what he did with that horse....truley amazing... :)
prinsses9742 9 months ago
Absolutely amazing. I'm doing this with my horse.
wildhorseobsessed 9 months ago
Is Join up telling the horse your the boss?
trinitymiller13 9 months ago
@trinitymiller13 More like bonding with the horse. He offers the horse friendship and trust, and the horse is accepting, thus creating a special bond. He's dominating of the horse, but with absense of violence, making the horse want to have him as his leader.
That's why the horse lets him put on a saddle. It trusts him.
ElMagAquaVing 9 months ago
any one who spends enough time around horse would know this instinctively its not rocket science .. just common horse sense ...now Richard winters is someone i admire
MrTrees4u 9 months ago
does this actually work??
nelsongarrett98 10 months ago
@nelsongarrett98 I used to do it all the time with my old boy. We got him when he was 3 and I'm pretty sure the stable we bought him from had drugged him. When I rode him at their facility he was bombproof. But as soon as we had him out in a similar setting at my house, the spooking and bucking set in. Then we were introduced to join-up. It was like the perfect fix for his spookiness. This is something you can and may need to repeat more than once. Works every time.
ShinyTsubasa 9 months ago
if it works every time then why would you repeat it more than once ???
MrTrees4u 9 months ago
@MrTrees4u To help reinforce the lesson and the bond. Were you given the equation 2+2 and then never asked to do math again?
girlofgodscountry 9 months ago
@nelsongarrett98 oh yes!
MsLizzable 9 months ago
So.... "Run until you collapse or surrender...". Is that really fair to the horse? Ive never liked the term "break a horse"... I Know alot of people probably dont agree with me, and thats fine. But I just choose to think of it differently...
amerryamerry 10 months ago
@amerryamerry This is actually based on a natural behavior done by wild and feral horses. Mustang herds will force newcomers to circle around the herd until they show the submissive behavior offered by the horse in this video. That's the whole basis of the technique: au naturale.
ShinyTsubasa 9 months ago
@amerryamerry I do agree about the term "break".
girlofgodscountry 9 months ago
what a load of crap the horse has a head collar on to start with and probably been handled since birth
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kristyw4 10 months ago
@MrTrees4u @MrTrees4u Well, step 1 is getting a horse into a halter and a lead...these devices need to be used in order to get the horse into the pen! The point is to move this horse into the next step of training, past the basics of halter and lead.
kristyw4 10 months ago
@MrTrees4u This is actually how certain facilities break mustangs each year.
ShinyTsubasa 9 months ago
I love how he works with the animals. I hope one day to be able to practice his ways with a horse of my own,
1gette 10 months ago
I have to admit I am impressed.
realy impressed
123456789mischief 10 months ago
horses shouldnt be forced into being ridden etc, im not sayying all horses should be left to run wild etc, most of the horses i ride would hate that, they like nothing better than going round a course of show jumps with me, they just shouldnt be bullied into anything
alliegirljls13194 10 months ago
How old is that horse?
Anni111111 10 months ago
Very lovely and inspiring horse training. I have seen these horse behaviors and never understood what they meant until now. Now It all seems so clear. Also this has made it so much easier to even catch the horses as I used to stand square on and look them in the eye and wonder why they would walk away, not understanding I was sending them away and making it hard to catch them even tho I was always very loving & respectful to them. Now it makes sense. Monty is amazing & inspiring, I love this.
Ganpignanus 10 months ago
Esse cara é maravilhoso!! Estou impresionadíssima!! Very nice!!
simonerossatoingles 10 months ago
Niesamowita technika, cały NH jest wspaniały. Dopiero zaczynam swoją przygodę, wiem że to jest ta trudniejsza, i zarazem lepsza droga jeździectwa.. ; ))
hehehe21SHDJ 10 months ago
i think it's just amazing what he does...
i read his book and it's soo interesting that i can't stop reading it... ;)
misstwilightlilli 10 months ago 23
@misstwilightlilli Whats the book called ?
Sarah777k9Free4All 10 months ago
@Sarah777k9Free4All One book of his is called "the man who listens to horses" by monty roberts. great book.
Ganpignanus 10 months ago
@Ganpignanus
Sweet thax
Sarah777k9Free4All 10 months ago
@Sarah777k9Free4All Das Wissen der Pferde und was wir Menschen von ihnen lernen können.
misstwilightlilli 10 months ago
@misstwilightlilli what's the book called?
stokes885 10 months ago
@misstwilightlilli
which one have you read? Ive been thinking of buying one!
one that doesn't cost like 50 quid tho o_x
snubaby 10 months ago
@misstwilightlilli Was that the book "The man who listens to Horses" ?
It's a great book But i fell sorry about his Father not listening to him.
Nether mind he's done it now.
Ajthewarrior1 7 months ago
@Ajthewarrior1 yeah ! right ! me too !
misstwilightlilli 6 months ago
This guy definitely knows what he is doing and I cant wait to learn more from him. I already joined up with my horse long ago but it still fascinates me and I still love watching it happen!
LevelHazel27 11 months ago
@xxEkatxx But if you're going to gain this trust, you have to get some knowledge first. People who watch this video, will probably try to do the same, without the knowledge that Monty has, and then they will probably end up with having their horses completely nuts, because they can't trust their leader...
zirosugar 11 months ago
Okey, guys. Sorry for my opinions about stuff, but.. It's just my thoughts about it. Maybe this isn't so bad, what do I know? But there's so many other persons out there that will try this, and.. I have respect for this dude, but those who wants to do the same needs some more information, than just this video. If they're trying to do the same, they will probably do as I wrote before. But then again - It's just my thought..
zirosugar 11 months ago
Czy ktoś mógłby zrobić taki sam filmik z Polskimi napisami?
Madzia9876543210 11 months ago
I enjoyed this video. My teacher had played it for an example to helping people with addictions.
HOLYtDESTROYER 11 months ago
he does not 'break' horses, he 'starts' them
vegee16 11 months ago
for a good apprenticeship (saddling, riding etc) you need very very much time, for shure. but the join up can really help with young or "wild" horses. :) I like his methods and use some of them frequently, they're really good.
FunnySunshineRider 11 months ago
Mr. rodneywbrown. It seems you have a extremely limited and incorrect knowledge of Mr. Roberts handling of horses. Try reading some of his books and you will realize you were wrong.
oz1dwf 11 months ago
He is a joke!
kimbrwon 11 months ago
I don't like his approach, it's WAY too fast. He makes the first saddling a scary experience.
Andrea9514 11 months ago
@Andrea9514 Obviously, you don't know what you're talking about.
streetlightxsin 11 months ago
awesome
taylorfan38 1 year ago
Can it be done without a round pen? It's so amazing to see, I read all of the Heartland books and loved the sound of join up, its just as amazing as it sounds :D If I ever have the money and time to have a horse, I would definitely use these techniques - trust is so important with horses :)
HorsieGirl249 1 year ago
Monty R$oberts ist einfach unvergleichlich!!!! Ich habe jedes seiner Bücher und bin einfach nur begeistert!!!!!!!
Flicka090 1 year ago
i want to try this with my 3 year old when hes ready to be broke do you /need/ a round pen or can i use a lounge line? i dont have access to a round pen or small paddock for that matter...
unstirrup 1 year ago
@unstirrup I saw Monty do a demo with Kelly Marks in the UK a few days ago. He actually mentioned that you can use jump poles and set them out in the shape of an octagon if you don't have any kind of pen. I guess you would have to raise them off the ground a bit though.
chromate222 1 year ago
@unstirrup i think u can do it with a lunch rein but leave it long and loose but it would be better with a pen a riddin ring or small paddock or somthin! good luck!
cazaschobs 1 year ago
Its so good!! I LOVE THE JOIN UP!!
LilGirlMii 1 year ago
This was awesome..so calmly done. I see no pressure, the horse wanted to connect with Monty. Used this technique with my mare and it really works. She did exactly what that mare did....nudge me on my back...Monty your a star.
TheMuglinde 1 year ago
@TheMuglinde Every time he throws out the line or faces the horse straight on that to the horse is pressure.
VenusSavvy 1 year ago
Monty Joins up he doesn't break anything.
Chaguarama75 1 year ago
muito bom gostei
1999Samuka 1 year ago
einiges von monty ist ja ganz gut , doch diese demonstration missfällt mir. für ein junges oder ungerittenes pferd ist es eine tortour . alles auf einmal ist einfach ein horror für das pferd. armer pferd.....
mitzidarling 1 year ago
@mitzidarling
Wäre es ein Horror, dann würde das Pferd traumatisiert reagieren, d.h. durcknallen, oder laut nach dem Schlachter wiehern, auf das der Horror endlich ein Ende fände.
Actually it is a matter of cooperation instead of repression. I know that the latter is a beloved doctrine that still affects our whole life - in this way we often shape policy, and not only that, got that?
TheTamriel 9 months ago
this is how all horses should be 'shown the saddle'. It's so much nicer, safer and less painful to the horse and is safer for the people who would like to ride the horse as well. It also takes less time than to 'break' the horse in. A lovely lady who I once knew trained with Monty Roberts for a number of years and before she left the stable bought a filly, she had it saddled in just under an hour, not as impressive as this but everyone was shocked as this fill was notoriously unruly. I loved it.
NattiC30 1 year ago 28
I really like that round pen :)
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kristincoyn 1 year ago
I've seen alot of people saying "my horse already follows me" well, thats great. It means your horse already trusts you. along with some "temporary" stuff. Well you get that horse to trust you completely, and then just disappear? Its clearly going to have some confusion.
MyPonyHeartsMe101 1 year ago
@WiktoriaD92
You're totally right. He is a real horseman.
Warriorcatsfreak2000 1 year ago
Ive tried this on 1 of horses and it worked! Although Im planning to do it with the pthers too.
Its not anything stupid like twitchers or force, its pure, come to me if you trust me! I think its amazing and great! The horse WANTED to come to Monty . So everyone saying it doesnt work is wrong.
SuperstarTSS 1 year ago
I would never, ever make this on my horses. And you shouldn't if your not perfectly sure how to do it! It can ruin your horse alot more then you think. But I like Monty Roberts(:
Zoffifie 1 year ago
waw
pupucemaman 1 year ago
my horse also follows and i've never done a join up xd
EvaaLoveeBlack 1 year ago
How can people dislike this I thinks it's amazing:) & the horse was never destressed or brought into any pain which is the main thing:)
LauraGrovee 1 year ago
I've done this several times on several horses and it definitely works-temperarily. The horse will follow you around like a dog for the rest of the day, but if u come back a week later don't expect your horse to respect u the same as it did the day u joined up with it. At least for my horses:)))
But then again it's ok to do this several times, or just lunge it in general, it gives both u and the horse practice, and gets the horse warmed up before a day of riding:)
mycricketismylove 1 year ago
@mycricketismylove Yep, agreed, it doesn't get your horse to follow you permanently the first time you do it. However, I used this over and over in conjunction with halter training my horse, and it helped it make sense to him. Now he follows me around the farm like a dog ALL the time!
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justinbellful 1 year ago
Okey, okey. I probably overreacted a bit about this video, but I watched so many videos that night that made me totally sick! I just can't watch horses that is going through pain. Ofcourse I can see that this horse ain't in pain, but I'm just saying something about the method. So many people are misunderstanding it. I'm sorry for hissing up so much about this one. But I meant what I said.. Some times it really does break down the horses wildness..
zirosugar 1 year ago
do u need a round pen? or just a menage cause i can't get acess to a roundpen...
horsesrfreedom 1 year ago
John Lyons is better--has fine tuned Monty's techniques--less "chasing" More body language
2902melody 1 year ago
This is beautiful. I'm 13 years old and I want to train horses some day and Monty Roberts is so inspirational to me.
PenguinPownage 1 year ago
how good can u get
bosslaydeebitch 1 year ago
Im going to try this tomarrow with a horse (he was a mustang but he is now about 8 yrs) named Saber. I have full trust that Monty Roberts method of starting horses is going to work. Heck, hes done it for YEARS! And the horse i want to try Join Up with hasnt been a misbehaving horse. But Im going to see if i can Join up with him any way :]
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Omg. I really can't watch this! Can't you guys see that this will only break down what's left of the wildness inside the horse? And that the horse knows that it has to obey before this dude will stop? Horsemanship is the worst thing I know of. Especially when they're doing it this way. They make their horses run in a circle around them until they're tired of it, and gives up. Remember that you can never make your self the leader of the horse. You have to deserve the respect!
zirosugar 1 year ago
@zirosugar Reading your reply shows you clearly know almost nothing about horses. Monty is using his body language to "speak" to the horse in a language the horse understands. He is not "breaking the horse" at all, he is asking the horse to join up and be a partner. The old traditional way of "breaking a horse" is cruel and damaging, but this is far far gentler and far more humane. Try actually doing some research before you pass judgment on something you cobviously know nothing about.
Leathurkatt 1 year ago
@zirosugar Sorry but if the horse really thought it was that terrible it would NEVER choose to be with Monty. It would never do that if it was afraid or if it was just because it "gave up". If it was a pack of wolves chasing the horse and the horse was scared and knew they would never stop until it "obeyed" it still wouldn't just stop and go to the wolves. That would be suicide for the horse.
Trine418 1 year ago
@zirosugar ur actually sum serious retard .. compared how some people break their horses tying one leg up and leaving the run around fallin over till their litterally absoultly wrecked so the horse just could not give a shit wat happens .. so u can try and do it and have aa horse that will be an absolute cunt 2 u
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abdul4107 1 year ago
has anyone watching this used this method? i want to try it on my friends horse coz he's quite nervous. does it work first time or have you had to keep trying?
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When I first saw Monty doing "join-up' I was in awe. It seemed like magic. Six years later, I can see things that don't seem fair to a horse needing partnership and training. This horse is showing submissive behavior way before Monty let's him stop like when the horse keeps trying to lower it's head & licking in submission & Monty keeps pushing him on. At the end when the "joined-up" horse is suppose to want to follow him as a partner, Monty is still handling the halter to control him.
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Everyone is going to hate me now, but I don't think it's the right way...
I prefer, putting more time in it, and I think the horse prefers that to ;)
SuperPiraatje 1 year ago
Everyone is going to hate me now, but I don't think it's the right way...
I prefer, putting more time in it, and I think the jorse prefers that to ;)
SuperPiraatje 1 year ago 4
@SuperPiraatje Nope I think it is all right to have your opinion :) I think that Montys way is as good as any, but I too prefer taking it a bit slower :)
Trine418 1 year ago
did anyone ride her before this ??
GPrincessLolaHTown 1 year ago
@GPrincessLolaHTown No, this horse has not been ridden or has ever had a bit and bridle on her.
rapunzeljenn 1 year ago
i hope one day i'll be half as good as him. my god.
EvaaLoveeBlack 1 year ago
bei einem jungen Pferd sitzt man im Trab nicht aus, das hat gar nicht Muskulatur -.- :|
Carenzia1231 1 year ago
People, I think it's not just for breaking a horse, it's also for general gaining trust and acceptance
LiveToRideAndJump 1 year ago
@hyperactivekitten I thought it was used to build a bond with a horse and gain their trust???????
horseanddoglover777 1 year ago
@horseanddoglover777 It IS to bond with a horse!! This method should absolutely be the first resort when dealing with horses - communicating with them in a language they understand ie their own. I have used this method on nervous and previously abused horses of my own and it absolutely works. It calmed my old pony down when she was tacked up as she used to get beaten when ridden. I'd join up, tack up, join up, ride. When i got her she used to shake at the right of people. She is now confident :)
xshineythingsx 1 year ago
So many people are misunderstanding this. He made this method so he could calm down wild horses before they should with the transport to USA from Australia. And no it's not something you should do on your sweet little pony at home. This is a very dangerous tool and it must not be used unless the last resort is to slaughter a horse!
hyperactivekitten 1 year ago
@hyperactivekitten I had a lesson on this, and it can be used to gain trust of ANY horse! you can even use it on hard to catch horses to get them used to handling and it is beneficial to any horse, teaching them to trust you and accept your handling
LiveToRideAndJump 1 year ago
I'm a beginner do you think I could still do this? I'm kinda young too
horseanddoglover777 1 year ago
@horseanddoglover777 No! Many people are misunderstanding this Join Up methode. You shall NEVER use it on your little sweet horse there are standing so sweet in the stable. NEVER! This is only for emergences.. ;)
hyperactivekitten 1 year ago
@horseanddoglover777 I wuoldnt if you are a beginner however... Get plenty of experience first so you understand what your horse is telling you before you try and immitate and read body language.
xshineythingsx 1 year ago