Very powerful film. It really captures the magnitude of the crime by focusing on the hope and pain of the relatives and the guilt of the survivors who had to live with the official lie. The acting is great and the directing is done by the master himself.
The fate of my countrymen would probably have been similar if the soviets hadn't been repelled
My great grandad stefan escaped from this and then he walked all the way from russia to palestine. He even got the vituti militari medal for all the stuff he did. this film is so sad :(
"Vasili Mikhailovich Blokhin, chief executioner for the NKVD—and quite possibly the most prolific executioner in history—is reported to have personally shot and killed 7,000 of the condemned, some as young as 18, from the Ostashkov camp at Kalinin prison over a period of 28 days in April 1940.[28][33]"--Wikipedia
Not only did ukrainians and poles embrace the violent side of communism but fascism aswell. Main problems communism caused were created by ukrainian and polish communist whispering into Stalin's and Lenin's ear.
@BENNYSIEGEL90 Are you really taught to still belive this communist lie and you really think it's the pure truth? Don't you realize every other country's history school-book writes something totally different like Russian history book? Don't you think you are led by your nose? Please..... just try to get out for a while to another country and experience why everybody's upset about Russia's (goings-on)foreing affairs policy
@BENNYSIEGEL90 Are you really taught to still belive this communist lie and you really think it's the pure truth? Don't you realize every other country's history school-book writes something totally different like Russian history book? Don't you think you are led by your nose? Please..... just try to get out for a while to another country and experience why everybody's upset about Russia's (goings-on)foreing affairs policy
Ukrainians and poles act so innocent but when you read the reports you can see they were the most brutal executioners. Even brutal than the magyars or bulgarians. Soviet authorities had to use them because it was un-natural for a russian to kill an unarmed person.
As for caucasians and jews. They were clearly no better. Fact is that it was not russian speakers who commited most of the crimes. All the present polish and ukrainian "anti-communist" were hardcore supporters of the part in the 80s.
@BENNYSIEGEL90 You are talking about such sick things that I'm impressed by your stupidity. Maybe even write that the Russians were invited by the Poles to come, murdered and displaced officers, policemen, etc because they are so good. Read some other books than the Russian propaganda.
Poles played a major larger role in the early bolshevik days than the russians did. Talking about Katyn and trying to cover up this will not wash this fact away. Poles blaming russians for communism would be like german person blaming italians and austrians for national socialism.
Kibaszott oroszok es kibaszott németek ! Büszkék lehettek a történelmetekre !! It is very interesting history. Good lesson for everybody, just a question is a time: what will be in the next time. Fucking Russian and fucking German:
Long Live Polish and Hungarian brotherhood ! During the 2nd WW Russians killed Polish people in great masses in south Hungary Serbs killed more than 100.000 Hungarian civils. Both we know what a pain is in our souls losting so many brave people. Dear Polish brothers our sadness is the same but in the future our joy will be the same !
Actually Comrades, This Atrocity Was Correctly Committed By Officers In Nazi German Uniforms And Blamed On Soviet Soldiers In Order To Demonize The Soviet Union, Making It Easier For Nazi Germany To Keep Strict Control Over Poland.
For Those Who Are Interested, I Have A Video In Support Of This. It Goes On For Six-Videos.
Why Would Soviet Soldiers Murder Surrendered Generals And Then Liberate Auschwitz In 1945?
Because Stalin Was One Of The Most Brilliant Men In The 20th Century. The Man Industrialized The Soviet Union In 8 Years, Making It The Number One Country In The World.
Research True History And It Will Tell You. Question. Why Do People Seek To Demonize The Soviet Union And Her Leaders? Answer, Because Whoever Has The Money Controls The People In The Western Capitalist World, So They Try To Crush Revolutionaries Spirits By Privatizing Everything And Making The People Poor.
Russian. Why are you trying to justify yourself to these sneaky poles. All the whining they dude is to cover up the fact that the CREATOR OF TERROR MACHINE IN USSR was from Poland. All these NKVD men learned from that boy Felix. What was the town where Dzerzhinsky was from. Was it Warsaw or Ivyanets. Anyway poles whining about Katyn would be like german SS-man crying about recivieving brutal treatment from Beria.
This Is True My Comrade. Some Very Good Points You Make Here. It Seems That For All The Bad In The World, People Have Been Trained To Blame Us Russians! It's Ridiculous.
But Then Again, All The Neo-Nazis Escaped Into The West After World War Two And Held A Grudge Against Us For Beating Them In World War Two.
@dejnaM Lol, have you heard of nazi genocide or allied bombing of Dresden, Hamburg, Tokyo.... in 1945, Those bombings were very deffinitio of terrorism and in each city there were more casualites than in Katyn, unlike Katyn they mainly cosisted of women and children.
Yes I agree, Stalin was an evil man, but you Poles think you got it rough? Go look how many soviet citizens he has killed, perhaps he should be accused of discrimination for not killing enough poles.
@54n141n3n Firstly, I am not a Pole, I am from Slovakia. sure, there were more crimes ... but what s the worst about Katyn is that no one was convicted or at least, for Russians it took quite long time to admit it ... but they did not take real responsibility, Putin said that " Bolsheviks " commited this crime..and who were Bolsheviks? not Russians? I know Nazi crimes, but they were also judged (of course not enough).... but who judged the Russians?
@dejnaM i dont think that its as much about judging whoever, especially in russia, just like in germany, if you didnt follow orders they would blow you up, but when it comes to Katyn, at least admit it to the people and dig out the guys to burry them in their homeland, and not in ruuusiaaaaa, imagine an american cemetary in iran of afghanistan... its morally unsuitable, after all those years.
@54n141n3n Part 2 - yes, Russia was winning country so GB and USA turned a blind eye! Russians and Germans murdered third of the population in Poland and even the Russians occupied Poland until the fall of communism.. You think after all, the Poles can not feel bad for Russians
@54n141n3n Actually, "By a conservative estimate some 85,000 ethnic Poles were executed between 1937-38...this is a staggeringly high percentage, given that Poles were a tiny minority in the pre-war Soviet Union, constituting fewer than 0.4 % of the general population. Soviet Poles were forty times more likely to die during the Great Terror than Soviet citizens generally" -Bloodlands: Europe Between Hitler and Stalin (2010), Dr. Tim Snyder, Yale University
I'm a polish emigrant to Australia. There is no other country I want to live.in.
I'm discusted on what russwians did to pllish officers/ techers/ profesors/ scientist / lawers / egeenires. That is why I said to myselfThere is no future in Poland only God can fix this fuck up
If you want to discus it email me on airarena@hotmail.com
I'm a polish emigrant to Australia. There is no other country I want to live.in.
I'm discusted on what russwians did to pllish officers/ techers/ profesors/ scientist / lawers / egeenires. That is why I said to myselfThere is no future in Poland only God can fix this fuck up
About the relation of Poles to the Jew for that period of time
Professor Jan Tomash the Gross any more shocks for the first time Poland with the books. In 2001 there was its monography «Neighbours: History of destruction of the Jewish place». In this book the Gross has told about massacre of Jews small small town Edvabne near Bialystok. On July, 10th, 1941 the most part of the Jewish population of Edvabne has been driven in the big shed and alive burned there by the neighbors-Poles.
Destiny of hundred thousand Russian in hands at Poles: In camp in Stshalkovo the death rate making 100-200 persons in month, was norm, in the most terrible for prisoners of war the period - in the winter 1920-21 - an amount of death were already calculated by thousand. In Brest in second half of 1919 died from 60 to 100 persons daily:
Captured Red Army men in Tuholsky camp, 1919 During its existence in camp was lost about 20 thousand prisoners of war.
Some historic facts of the Polish history for that period of time about which it is necessary for Poles to shoot films:
1.
About inhuman conditions in which captured Red Army men in 1919-1921 contained in the Polish concentration camps, has written an influential Polish weekly journal "Njusuik Polska". Article on this theme is called "the Hell behind a barbed wire". Its author – historian Igor Mechik
Wow. I just watched this movie on KBS, Korea public service broadcaster. It was very shocking at the end. Now I hate Stalin more. He also encouraged Kim il-Sung to invade SKorea in 1950. My sincere condolences to those victims in Katyn. Go Poland!
@lbhkorn Stay strong. Poland wish You freedom and union of all country - South and North without communists. We stop communist invasion in 1920 near Warsaw. 1 000 000 soviet soldiers try conquer Poland and they was smashed. They run away to Moscow. In 1939 They back with nazis. Poland can`t win this time. In Katyn soviets liqudated many veterans of Polish Soviet War. They can`t beat them in honour fight so they kiled them like cowards.
I hope, the authorities of Poland and Russia won't forget about hundred thousand the Soviet soldiers, died terrible death in Polish to a captivity in 20th years
The crime of Katyn is not a crime of the Russian people,but a crime of the communist party of Russia.Guilty for this crime is all the communist scum worlwide.Unfortunatelly their leftist political offsprings,camuflaged in a democratic veil are still well,alive and dangerous for everything good.The end of cold war was not the end,it is now the bourgeois"new left dictatorship" in the west that has to be crushed.
About inhuman conditions in which captured Red Army men in 1919-1921 contained in the Polish concentration camps, has written an influential Polish weekly journal "Njusuik Polska". Article on this theme is called "the Hell behind a barbed wire". Its author – historian Igor Mechik.
About inhuman conditions in which captured Red Army men in 1919-1921 contained in the Polish concentration camps, has written an influential Polish weekly journal "Njusuik Polska". Article on this theme is called "the Hell behind a barbed wire". Its author – historian Igor Mechik.
In camp in Stshalkovo the death rate making 100-200 persons in month, was norm, in the most terrible for prisoners of war the period - in the winter 1920-21 - an amount of death were already calculated by thousand. In Brest in second half of 1919 died from 60 to 100 persons daily. In Tuholi in the end of 1920 for two months 400 persons have died.
Ok, there was terrible death rate but in Soviet land was much more WORSE. Btw. if Russians didn't destroyed Poland since hundreds of years Poland would have anought goods to share it with these prisoners.
Don't lie with numbers becuse it is too primitive. There was maximum 85 thousands prisoners and maximum 20 thousands of dead in it.
So as to these mysterious "concentration camps" covered all Polish territory there should be at least 100 camps. Really outstanding that nobody knows names,location,conditions,absolutely nothing about these camps.
100 camps for 80 000 (without Tuchola) means 1 camps for 800 people. Funny that Poland would created plenty of such tiny camps instead of few big and transport these prisoners over all Poland. With such death rate a camp after half of year would be empty and useless.
@odoslawa You need to go visit the sites of the extermination camps, rather than theorising about how impossible this seems to your poor miniscule brain, & before you get annoyed as part of my job in I visited many documented & other lesser undocumented sites, in former central European states. Your figures are nonsense and the unsupported statement 'Nobodies knows names, location, conditions, absolutely nothing of these camps' is disinformation and exposes you to the accusation of revisionist
I repeat: world know 6 polish prisoners camps but suprisingly you know more. Why don't you write book about it instead of spaming here?
Seriously speaking: you suggested than nobody (evan Communists who lived here over 40 years) couldn't find any sign of these mysterious camps. Even polish-russian commision couldn't find any signs of things you speak. There are milions people in these sites you write about and they can not see nothing.
@odoslawa What a marvelous sense of the absurd you have. I served in Army in Europe, & actually, believe it or not, obviously in your case it's not, as a career soldier I know what I am talking about, not spurious theorising and nonsense. my service time was spent in Intel Corp my civilian background is in forensics, not that interested in pissing contest with those who'd seek to defile the silent voices of the dead. My family lost 17 men in the 2 wars, I can't find any proof of that either
I respect your dead family people if they were good people but don't insult me and Poland so I won't say about ghosts.
So you know 17 died during wars. Do you suggest that they died in concentration camps because there is not any proof that they are dead?
I still can't catch your idea about being in these lands. Explain me how a foreigner, soldier in Central Europe/Poland? could find any information about Soviets prisoners in Poland.
@odoslawa Buy yourself a ticket and go to Geneva, visit Red Cross see the massive building housing the card index system which catalogues the POW/concentration camp records you seem to think don't exist. Shame on you, setting yourself up as the voice of reason, while promoting a discredited genocidal political dogma. Propoganda, disinformation are poison, and your words are not just shameful, they are toxic. The dead of both sides deserve honour & respect, something you'd know nothing about.
Ok I'm really sorry because I did not check the list of Polish camps with Soviets soldiers but it is the LIE that these camps were concentration camps as they was not killed there only died from diseases. You even don't know death rate there, don't you?, but you use the name "concentration". If Red Cross use such name it is pure lie, as they must know that prisoners were not killed then. Even Russian admit that.
the Polish captivity has got all to 110 тыс the soldier, commanders and commissioners of Red Army. For them Poles have created the whole network of concentration camps - in Brest, Lukove, Vadovitse, Dombe, Tuhole, Stzhalkove, Pikulitse, Shiporno and in other places. This network covered almost all Polish territory
My grandmother told me that in WW2 when the Germans arrived at her village, they did not fear them. But when the Russians arrived, they raped children, killed people and destroyed food and livestock, burned everything down to the ground. They were just very uneducated and primitive criminals!!!!
My grandmother told me that in WW2 when the Germans arrived at her village, they did not fear them. But when the Russians arrived, they raped children, killed people and destroyed food and livestock, burned everything down to the ground. They were just very uneducated and primitive criminals!!!!
My grandmother told me that in WW2 when the Germans arrived at her village, they did not fear them. But when the Russians arrived, they raped children, killed people and destroyed food and livestock, burned everything down to the ground. They were just very uneducated and primitive criminals!!!!
@Joonavainio Yes,Molotov-Ribbentrop pact is very good thing! It has shown Stalin's modesty! Under the pact it has taken away back territories occupied by Poles, and could ask and the Polish grounds, but has not made it. Stalin was modest, in difference from the European imperialists...
Film for fools ignorant history. Poles wish to cover with it the crimes. Poland - the invader of the USSR and Poland has begun the Second World war together with Germany having attacked on Czechoslovakia
Really? Lvov, Brest is the Polish cities? In your country learn history on the American comics where war has won Mickey Mouse? After capture Czechoslovakia, Poland has developed the plan "East" - an attack to the USSR together with Hitler, but then has simply quarrelled with Germany. So it is not necessary to tell about the dictionary, this all is known and possible to find in the Internet. You have got used to hide the crimes being covered with " malicious Stalin "
Of course Lwów and Brześć are Polish cities by history (even Ukrainian historian Nestor admits that) and by local people who lived there.
We took Zaolzie with polish majority after Czechs betrayed us in 1919. Simple justice.
Plan "East" had not anything common with Hitler and with USRR, it established defence by Poles if Soviets attack us. You need not only a dictionary but also knowledge how to use Internet and read with understanding.
..)))..ha-ha.... If Lvov and Brest the Polish cities then Warsaw is the Chinese city. These are ancient Russian cities of times of the Kievan Rus', and Poles constantly grasped them. Last time Poland has attacked the USSR in 1920 and has grasped these cities again. Or you again tell that Poland defended?
I'd rather worry about Kijów as it is more Swedish, generally half of Ukraine is Russian as you've already told.
Appearantly knowledge about own national literature and history is to difficult to you as you don't care about Nestor book. These cities were located in land stolen earlier from Poland in 981, the name "Polish lands taken from ancient Ukrainian thiefs" is better. In 1920 we confirmed our rights to our lands and we went east because Simon Petlura invited us for a party.
Guy, you even a mesozoic era recollect. Poland was formed around of city Gniezno. You have grasped the rest. You are right, all went on the east. Russia has gone on the east and has grasped Siberia. You have gone on the east and have grasped Russian grounds. To argue here it is useless, for Russia Poland the invader. After Poland was friend USSR and it did not recollect, but you again have pulled out it also from it will suffer....
What mesozoic era, normal time. Yes Poland was formed around of city Gniezno, that was polish capital. These land belonged to Polish=Lendians, we didn't take Russian lands so we wasn't any invider. Lwów land belonged legally to "normal" chritian, polish state with king and we didn't steal it from anybody.
@TheUkr2011 What you said is the best joke I ever heard really. Maybe if you repeat that lie thousand times somebody belives you. Maybe someone should tell you about times before Russian annexation started in 1795. And that must be painful for you that Poland didin't exist on Europe map for 123 years but never gave up and finaly raised up in 1918.
Apparently this disguise in the Poles Stalin in Czechoslovakia attacked..)) 1795 a very good year, we managed to get rid of the aggressor, which is constantly on the us attacked...You thought pretend to be a "poor lamb" and the build of a sacrifice?
i dont care what people say for me all from easteurope my brothers spezialy my polnish slavic brothers i would die for all of your people and your country here in germany we bigget friends young russian people learning polnish and young polnish people learning russian=) our culture not much different our people always worriors and fighters for the good here i love you my friends
im russian man and i hate propaganda is true katyn is polska place for me not russia but schlesien was germany too is normal its the life=)
and i know many people from polska they said if they russians comed to polska there was really good a polnish man told me a story a man ukrain man said kill the polnish people and the germans(schlesien) to in our village the russian soldier gaived the ukrain man a cigaret and said to him turn a round and shoot him down
if a communist leader can see no harm in giving order to massacres although all the communist education on human rights = nothing can make me believe in humanity anymore.
hiroshima , auchwitz , gulags , pol pot , nanjing massacre (japans did) , tiananmen square, armenian massacre ....
Stalin has killed twenty millions and you confirm it in a documentary film about 20 thousand persons killed by Stalin, something doesn't grow together at you
If you not in a course Hungary was Hitler's hot supporter, because of you my country have lost 30 millions persons - here that you should remember, and 56th is correct that we haven't allowed to be made to a revenge to racists in Hungary
@sss7773 Racist revolution in Hungary, 1956? Omg, how can you talk about one of our most sensitive historical episodes like that? Shame on you! And yes ,many russian soldiers died because of your FANATIC LEADERS not because of other NATIONS! This is why you had to live always under bad conditions... because the most of you are stupid. I closed the argument with you. You're just talking senseless shit. I recommend you to go beneath another videos. This is not your place to troll the people.
Stalin has killed twenty millions and you confirm it in a documentary film about 20 thousand persons killed by Stalin, something doesn't grow together at you
If you not in a course Hungary was Hitler's hot supporter, because of you my country have lost 30 millions persons - here that you should remember, and 56th is correct that we haven't allowed to be made to a revenge to racists in Hungary
@bigsajt If you think so you're in a huge error ...
I am Polish and I live in a country that has been left alone when WW II began.
Even the cruelty of German concentration camps can not be matched by deeds Russians madeduring and after the war. You say not to blame the Russian soldiers ... I know their cruelty. I learned about them from stories my parents. German soldiers were soldiers but the Russians ... This is not to describe.
@bigsajt If you think so you're in a huge error ...
I am Polish and I live in a country that has been left alone when WW II began.
Even the cruelty of German concentration camps can not be matched by deeds Russians madeduring and after the war. You say not to blame the Russian soldiers ... I know their cruelty. I learned about them from stories my parents. German soldiers were soldiers but the Russians ... This is not to describe.
Sure pal. It was all russians and jews who did this right because we all know that you poles were never anti-tsarist devils who wished death and pain to the russian people. We know how much hostility you gave and showed towards that spawn of Satan when he came to live in Krakow. Didn't one of you even said to the "Iron man" Uncle Joe how "we both are children of oppressed nations". ha ha ha
@sss7773 Ok then live in your illusion you insignificant, ignorant asshole. Are you being paid for provocating people on Youtube? I'd rather stop this if I were you... Fortunately, there are normal and honorable people in Russia too... You don't belong there. Ignored.
It is not necessary to use the term Russian, Russian, in particular, my grandfather and the great-grandfather have gone volunteers to be at war with nazis, have got in camp of death of Hitler, ran and further were at war with nazis - here they, Russian than were engaged
About Stalin and Russian so any nations of the world so haven't suffered from Stalin, as Russian
Interesting, and than your relatives were engaged during the Second World War???
@TheSnuFFerr Thanks! It's good to realise that we have brothers and friends as well, who don't hate us, just because we're hungarians! We love you too Poles! Polak, Węgier, dwa bratanki, i do szabli, i do szklanki. And don't forget to visit Hungary in 2011, we're waiting for you. And I won't forget to travel to Kraków in the summer. :)
A few years ago I was touring Auschwtiz Concentration Camp and my tour guide was a 30 y/o woman whose father died in the camp. I brought up the subject about how the Russians liberated the death camp and she quietly whispers to me in her broken English "Never trust a Russian" I couldn't help but bite my lip from laughing. That comment has always stayed with me.
Questo capolavoro in Italia ha avuto 2 giorni di programmazione in quattro misere sale. Siamo vergognosi!!!! Molto meglio l'ennesima porcheria made in Usa
That case still not closed until Nuremberg. Were there any other Katyn courts? Yes, in 1992, on constitutional court over CPSU. Even there Katyn documents werent acknowladged.
>this sentence makes you look just stupid.
Why?
>understood that UK & USA are just nazis to...
Really? Cold war was declared by West, when they 'understood', that USSR = Reich.
>you wanted to liberate us
We needed to see a friendly Poland on our borders.
@163linker Bullshit, Mikołajczyk tryied, but the Lublin "Poles" were just puppets and Moscow would most probably cheat, sentence or kill him just like gen. Leopold Okulicki and the rest of the officers of Polish state...
He tried to receive all control over Poland. It wasn`t acceptable for USSR, because we need a friendly Poland. Could Milokaychik`s government be friendly for USSR? Could they be friendly for USSR after declaration of Cold war? I doubt. Antysoviet pre-war policy, prometheism, NATO forces in Poland is more probably policy for London`s Poland.
Neutral Poland was also good for USSR. But it was impossible - so sorry, but control over Poland was necessary.
Obviously that`s not true, you couldn`t share any bit of power with Poles, you had to have full control, not "friendship".
Finally a word of truth from you. Soviets needed to control occupation zone of Germany and couldn`t move one step back, the global "revolution" was the goal, always.
Stalin tried... All Polish movements really showed, that it`s impossible.
>Soviets needed to control occupation zone of Germany and couldn`t move one step back
Ololo. Stalin(and then Beria) exactly tried to make a one neutral Germany. Anglosaxons, of course, disagreed, because they needed to control Western Germany.
Stalin tried... All Polish movements really showed, that it s really impossible, because Mikolaychik wanted all or nothing.
Ololo. Stalin(and then Beria) exactly tried to make a one neutral Germany. Anglosaxons, of course, disagreed, because they needed to control Western Germany.
@163linker Poland should be the ONLY country to have control over Poland. You and your realpolitk can go to hell along with the Russian murderers and Stalin.
@MultiSuperduperME That can qualify for Britan and France, but not for the countries that were occupied by Soviet union after the WW2. And Soviets committed crimes on the same scale as Nazis but they got away with it.
>And Soviets committed crimes on the same scale as Nazis
That`s false. Finns were allies of Reich, so millions of victims are on their responcibility too. USSR rescued world from nazis, and never let to build 'Great Finland' - that`s why you hate USSR.
this is the best movie I've ever seen. I'm German, so the polish people are special near to my heart. I was crying at the end...and still am crying...sorry to all suffered under that f...ing Nazis
@163linker Soviets investigating a crime in which are suspected... ? Than you`ll tell me Gorbachev falsyfied documents becouse hated soviets and so on... Stop joking, it`s not funny at all.
No offence, you`re not neutral either and i don`t want to discuss it with a beliver of sovietism.
>Soviets investigating a crime in which are suspected... ?
Same about Germans in 1943. But, do you want to see German documentation about Katyn? You`ll can`t. Because Germans burned a CARRIAGE of Katyn documents. Of course, it`s normal, when suspected burns an evidence, whitch aquittal him :) Even Goebbels understood, that there 'could be found things, whitch not according to our version.'
>Than you`ll tell me Gorbachev falsyfied documents
@163linker Germans at least tryied to make it apear like an international investigation. Even Goebbels understood the outcome of soviet "investigation" before it ever begun... No idea about the carriage, but there`re enough of other evidences.
Right, i guess he worked for Goebbels too, just like the Polish goverment you refused to acknowladge when... asked for investigation.
Please Linker, i don`t want nothing from your people, but the lies you repeat are just ridiculous.
>Germans at least tryied to make it apear like an international investigation.
Awesome 'investigation'. Nobody could do nothing without German allow. Report was signed in unknown airfield. Doctors Hayek, Markov and Orsos showed us, how it was in reality.
>but there`re enough of other evidences.
Whitch evidences? I see, that all evidences proves exactly German fault.
@163linker .... cut this crap. You`re an international socialist and a beliver of Stalin culth, you`ll always excuse that no matter what hapends and i`m not going to fight over a case which is closed.
That case still not closed until Nuremberg. Were there any other Katyn courts? Yes, in 1992, on constitutional court over CPSU. Even there Katyn 'documents' weren`t acknowladged.
>this sentence makes you look just stupid.
Why?
>you "understood" that UK & USA are just "nazis" to...
Really? Cold war was declared by West, when they "understood", that USSR = Reich.
>you wanted to "liberate" us
We needed to see a friendly Poland on our borders.
P.A.O.K ANTIFA....fuck racism....
boutsourini 3 weeks ago
@boutsourini
PAOK - fuck communism.
CompanyFlow78 3 days ago
2010 april 10 ussr did again....
gprswap3 3 weeks ago
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@gprswap3
>2010 april 10 ussr did again....
Comrade "tree" rewarded by medal Hero of the USSR.
163linker 3 weeks ago
Very powerful film. It really captures the magnitude of the crime by focusing on the hope and pain of the relatives and the guilt of the survivors who had to live with the official lie. The acting is great and the directing is done by the master himself.
The fate of my countrymen would probably have been similar if the soviets hadn't been repelled
HerrMikael 1 month ago
За Родину! За Сталина! За мир! За коммунизм!
alexgrinkov 2 months ago
Poland's Hero!!!!!!
sofamili 2 months ago
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The polish prisoners did work for the Russians and were not killed, but then the Germans came.
Is this fabricating of hate against Russians for preparation of the next NATO war?
The NAZIs were the murderers of Katyn: watch?v=2uBqLo_3kag and also the link in the description.
For other mass deception about Stalin I suggest: plp. org/books
edgar0001 2 months ago
STALIN TRASH
PetralonaGate7 3 months ago
russian skunks
mark4tk 3 months ago
@mark4tk
Is better you would go and have worried about some millions civilians killed by nuclear bombardments
sss7773 3 months ago
Лживый фильм!!(((((((((
Nafismin 3 months ago
My great grandad stefan escaped from this and then he walked all the way from russia to palestine. He even got the vituti militari medal for all the stuff he did. this film is so sad :(
Cheyenne290 4 months ago
Polans opressed many ukrainians,m lithuanians and belarusian....
hypocrite poles
stefanobahia 4 months ago
@stefanobahia who are u?
asmad77 2 months ago
@asmad77
Bog
stefanobahia 2 months ago
"Vasili Mikhailovich Blokhin, chief executioner for the NKVD—and quite possibly the most prolific executioner in history—is reported to have personally shot and killed 7,000 of the condemned, some as young as 18, from the Ostashkov camp at Kalinin prison over a period of 28 days in April 1940.[28][33]"--Wikipedia
clintonearlwalker 4 months ago
Not only did ukrainians and poles embrace the violent side of communism but fascism aswell. Main problems communism caused were created by ukrainian and polish communist whispering into Stalin's and Lenin's ear.
BENNYSIEGEL90 4 months ago
@BENNYSIEGEL90 Are you really taught to still belive this communist lie and you really think it's the pure truth? Don't you realize every other country's history school-book writes something totally different like Russian history book? Don't you think you are led by your nose? Please..... just try to get out for a while to another country and experience why everybody's upset about Russia's (goings-on)foreing affairs policy
efy1988 4 months ago
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@BENNYSIEGEL90 Are you really taught to still belive this communist lie and you really think it's the pure truth? Don't you realize every other country's history school-book writes something totally different like Russian history book? Don't you think you are led by your nose? Please..... just try to get out for a while to another country and experience why everybody's upset about Russia's (goings-on)foreing affairs policy
efy1988 4 months ago
Ukrainians and poles act so innocent but when you read the reports you can see they were the most brutal executioners. Even brutal than the magyars or bulgarians. Soviet authorities had to use them because it was un-natural for a russian to kill an unarmed person.
As for caucasians and jews. They were clearly no better. Fact is that it was not russian speakers who commited most of the crimes. All the present polish and ukrainian "anti-communist" were hardcore supporters of the part in the 80s.
BENNYSIEGEL90 4 months ago
@BENNYSIEGEL90 You are talking about such sick things that I'm impressed by your stupidity. Maybe even write that the Russians were invited by the Poles to come, murdered and displaced officers, policemen, etc because they are so good. Read some other books than the Russian propaganda.
groneek 4 months ago
@groneek I'M WITH YOU!!! <3 U R TOTALLY RIGHT!!!!
kalisiowa 4 months ago
I hope Reznov and Dimitri from COD WAW will watch this video!
blackswanguy 4 months ago
That Russians did so they sould be shamed of it
3DSFuture 4 months ago
if Stalin is Jew and bolsheviks were Jews and Polishes were Jews then... It makes no sense in this becouse the Jew will not kill a Jew.
mynameisdivel 5 months ago
Poles played a major larger role in the early bolshevik days than the russians did. Talking about Katyn and trying to cover up this will not wash this fact away. Poles blaming russians for communism would be like german person blaming italians and austrians for national socialism.
BENNYSIEGEL90 5 months ago
Kibaszott oroszok es kibaszott németek ! Büszkék lehettek a történelmetekre !! It is very interesting history. Good lesson for everybody, just a question is a time: what will be in the next time. Fucking Russian and fucking German:
Belaschulcz 5 months ago
Long Live Polish and Hungarian brotherhood ! During the 2nd WW Russians killed Polish people in great masses in south Hungary Serbs killed more than 100.000 Hungarian civils. Both we know what a pain is in our souls losting so many brave people. Dear Polish brothers our sadness is the same but in the future our joy will be the same !
kovaxpi 5 months ago
Actually Comrades, This Atrocity Was Correctly Committed By Officers In Nazi German Uniforms And Blamed On Soviet Soldiers In Order To Demonize The Soviet Union, Making It Easier For Nazi Germany To Keep Strict Control Over Poland.
For Those Who Are Interested, I Have A Video In Support Of This. It Goes On For Six-Videos.
Why Would Soviet Soldiers Murder Surrendered Generals And Then Liberate Auschwitz In 1945?
SovietGoldenDragon 6 months ago
@SovietGoldenDragon why would anyone have to make anything up to demonize stalin
MrCoryszott 5 months ago
@MrCoryszott
Because Stalin Was One Of The Most Brilliant Men In The 20th Century. The Man Industrialized The Soviet Union In 8 Years, Making It The Number One Country In The World.
Research True History And It Will Tell You. Question. Why Do People Seek To Demonize The Soviet Union And Her Leaders? Answer, Because Whoever Has The Money Controls The People In The Western Capitalist World, So They Try To Crush Revolutionaries Spirits By Privatizing Everything And Making The People Poor.
SovietGoldenDragon 5 months ago
@SovietGoldenDragon
Russian. Why are you trying to justify yourself to these sneaky poles. All the whining they dude is to cover up the fact that the CREATOR OF TERROR MACHINE IN USSR was from Poland. All these NKVD men learned from that boy Felix. What was the town where Dzerzhinsky was from. Was it Warsaw or Ivyanets. Anyway poles whining about Katyn would be like german SS-man crying about recivieving brutal treatment from Beria.
BENNYSIEGEL90 5 months ago
@BENNYSIEGEL90
This Is True My Comrade. Some Very Good Points You Make Here. It Seems That For All The Bad In The World, People Have Been Trained To Blame Us Russians! It's Ridiculous.
But Then Again, All The Neo-Nazis Escaped Into The West After World War Two And Held A Grudge Against Us For Beating Them In World War Two.
SovietGoldenDragon 5 months ago
Actually your a dumb ass, Russians were scum not far from the level of the Germans
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@Antekdzi1
LOL. Your Lack Of Education And Civility Amuses Me. I'll Leave It At That. ;-)
SovietGoldenDragon 1 month ago
this was one of the biggest crime in WWII
dejnaM 7 months ago 18
@dejnaM Lol, have you heard of nazi genocide or allied bombing of Dresden, Hamburg, Tokyo.... in 1945, Those bombings were very deffinitio of terrorism and in each city there were more casualites than in Katyn, unlike Katyn they mainly cosisted of women and children.
Yes I agree, Stalin was an evil man, but you Poles think you got it rough? Go look how many soviet citizens he has killed, perhaps he should be accused of discrimination for not killing enough poles.
54n141n3n 2 months ago
@54n141n3n Firstly, I am not a Pole, I am from Slovakia. sure, there were more crimes ... but what s the worst about Katyn is that no one was convicted or at least, for Russians it took quite long time to admit it ... but they did not take real responsibility, Putin said that " Bolsheviks " commited this crime..and who were Bolsheviks? not Russians? I know Nazi crimes, but they were also judged (of course not enough).... but who judged the Russians?
dejnaM 2 months ago
@dejnaM i dont think that its as much about judging whoever, especially in russia, just like in germany, if you didnt follow orders they would blow you up, but when it comes to Katyn, at least admit it to the people and dig out the guys to burry them in their homeland, and not in ruuusiaaaaa, imagine an american cemetary in iran of afghanistan... its morally unsuitable, after all those years.
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@54n141n3n Part 2 - yes, Russia was winning country so GB and USA turned a blind eye! Russians and Germans murdered third of the population in Poland and even the Russians occupied Poland until the fall of communism.. You think after all, the Poles can not feel bad for Russians
dejnaM 2 months ago
@54n141n3n Actually, "By a conservative estimate some 85,000 ethnic Poles were executed between 1937-38...this is a staggeringly high percentage, given that Poles were a tiny minority in the pre-war Soviet Union, constituting fewer than 0.4 % of the general population. Soviet Poles were forty times more likely to die during the Great Terror than Soviet citizens generally" -Bloodlands: Europe Between Hitler and Stalin (2010), Dr. Tim Snyder, Yale University
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I'm a polish emigrant to Australia. There is no other country I want to live.in.
I'm discusted on what russwians did to pllish officers/ techers/ profesors/ scientist / lawers / egeenires. That is why I said to myselfThere is no future in Poland only God can fix this fuck up
If you want to discus it email me on airarena@hotmail.com
regardzs darek
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I'm a polish emigrant to Australia. There is no other country I want to live.in.
I'm discusted on what russwians did to pllish officers/ techers/ profesors/ scientist / lawers / egeenires. That is why I said to myselfThere is no future in Poland only God can fix this fuck up
If you discus it email me on airarena@hotmail.com
regardzs darek
dlotnia67 7 months ago
This is why i support the Afghani Mujahideen and the Chechens.
driver76fan 8 months ago
Russians are more evil thans germans nazi
Crox300 8 months ago 2
@Crox300 oh my god. it is the past. we live today. why did you insult my country and nation? what have i personally done to you? I'm Russian!
IIIZEPHYROSIII 6 months ago
@IIIZEPHYROSIII I can insult it to today
Crox300 6 months ago
@Crox300 you're nasty ty poprostu pridurok!
IIIZEPHYROSIII 6 months ago
About the relation of Poles to the Jew for that period of time
Professor Jan Tomash the Gross any more shocks for the first time Poland with the books. In 2001 there was its monography «Neighbours: History of destruction of the Jewish place». In this book the Gross has told about massacre of Jews small small town Edvabne near Bialystok. On July, 10th, 1941 the most part of the Jewish population of Edvabne has been driven in the big shed and alive burned there by the neighbors-Poles.
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Destiny of hundred thousand Russian in hands at Poles: In camp in Stshalkovo the death rate making 100-200 persons in month, was norm, in the most terrible for prisoners of war the period - in the winter 1920-21 - an amount of death were already calculated by thousand. In Brest in second half of 1919 died from 60 to 100 persons daily:
Captured Red Army men in Tuholsky camp, 1919 During its existence in camp was lost about 20 thousand prisoners of war.
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Some historic facts of the Polish history for that period of time about which it is necessary for Poles to shoot films:
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About inhuman conditions in which captured Red Army men in 1919-1921 contained in the Polish concentration camps, has written an influential Polish weekly journal "Njusuik Polska". Article on this theme is called "the Hell behind a barbed wire". Its author – historian Igor Mechik
sss7773 8 months ago
Nie wszyscy rosyjscy dupek, takie jak Putin
viktorgalinin 9 months ago
Wow. I just watched this movie on KBS, Korea public service broadcaster. It was very shocking at the end. Now I hate Stalin more. He also encouraged Kim il-Sung to invade SKorea in 1950. My sincere condolences to those victims in Katyn. Go Poland!
From S.Korea
lbhkorn 9 months ago 27
@lbhkorn Go Korea too, bro. SKorea of course!!!
ilybbesgsg 3 months ago
@lbhkorn Stay strong. Poland wish You freedom and union of all country - South and North without communists. We stop communist invasion in 1920 near Warsaw. 1 000 000 soviet soldiers try conquer Poland and they was smashed. They run away to Moscow. In 1939 They back with nazis. Poland can`t win this time. In Katyn soviets liqudated many veterans of Polish Soviet War. They can`t beat them in honour fight so they kiled them like cowards.
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>1 000 000 soviet soldiers try conquer Poland
Dont lie. 2 Soviet fronts counted 200 thousands bayonets. And dont forget about 25.04.1920, when Poland invaded Soviet Russia.
>and they was smashed
yes, many Soviet pows were exterminated in polish concentration camps.
>They run away to Moscow
Oh really?
163linker 3 weeks ago
no more war
Viragojanedoe 9 months ago
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I hope, the authorities of Poland and Russia won't forget about hundred thousand the Soviet soldiers, died terrible death in Polish to a captivity in 20th years
sss7773 9 months ago
The crime of Katyn is not a crime of the Russian people,but a crime of the communist party of Russia.Guilty for this crime is all the communist scum worlwide.Unfortunatelly their leftist political offsprings,camuflaged in a democratic veil are still well,alive and dangerous for everything good.The end of cold war was not the end,it is now the bourgeois"new left dictatorship" in the west that has to be crushed.
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About inhuman conditions in which captured Red Army men in 1919-1921 contained in the Polish concentration camps, has written an influential Polish weekly journal "Njusuik Polska". Article on this theme is called "the Hell behind a barbed wire". Its author – historian Igor Mechik.
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sss7773 10 months ago
Exactly what happened with Soviet officers in 37.
boks81 10 months ago
im sick and tired of this, we all (russians, polish) should leave this behind us and start looking into the future.
avegromek 10 months ago
Katyn murders:Lew Rybak, Chaim Finberg,Izaak Stolzman, Abraham Borisowicz.,Bogdan Zaharewicz Kobulow, Begman, Elman, Estrin, Krongauz, Lejbkind, J. Raichman, Abakumow, Milstein (transport), Sierow, Abram Borysowicz, Lew Rybak, Chaim Finberg, major Joshua Sorokin,Aleksander Susłow, Samyun Tichonow- ONLY JEWS!
domarat11111 11 months ago
Yes, russians ruined The commonwealth empire! we were all brothers until the russians decided to destroy our peace and love for each other.
sometimes it makes me almost want to cry for what we have lost in east europe when they kept wanting to destroy peace.
DragonBaine 11 months ago
This film is why all communists must be swiftly sent to satan before they can murder all of us.
TheBrewskiBaby 11 months ago
Similar, excites nobody of 100 thousand decayed alive or for hunger of the Soviet soldiers in the Polish camps in 20th years
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About inhuman conditions in which captured Red Army men in 1919-1921 contained in the Polish concentration camps, has written an influential Polish weekly journal "Njusuik Polska". Article on this theme is called "the Hell behind a barbed wire". Its author – historian Igor Mechik.
sss7773 11 months ago
In a picture: Captured Red Army men in Tuholsky camp, 1919 During its existence in camp has perished about 20 thousand prisoners of war.
sss7773 11 months ago
In camp in Stshalkovo the death rate making 100-200 persons in month, was norm, in the most terrible for prisoners of war the period - in the winter 1920-21 - an amount of death were already calculated by thousand. In Brest in second half of 1919 died from 60 to 100 persons daily. In Tuholi in the end of 1920 for two months 400 persons have died.
sss7773 11 months ago
@sss7773
Ok, there was terrible death rate but in Soviet land was much more WORSE. Btw. if Russians didn't destroyed Poland since hundreds of years Poland would have anought goods to share it with these prisoners.
Don't lie with numbers becuse it is too primitive. There was maximum 85 thousands prisoners and maximum 20 thousands of dead in it.
odoslawa 11 months ago
So as to these mysterious "concentration camps" covered all Polish territory there should be at least 100 camps. Really outstanding that nobody knows names,location,conditions,absolutely nothing about these camps.
100 camps for 80 000 (without Tuchola) means 1 camps for 800 people. Funny that Poland would created plenty of such tiny camps instead of few big and transport these prisoners over all Poland. With such death rate a camp after half of year would be empty and useless.
odoslawa 11 months ago
@odoslawa You need to go visit the sites of the extermination camps, rather than theorising about how impossible this seems to your poor miniscule brain, & before you get annoyed as part of my job in I visited many documented & other lesser undocumented sites, in former central European states. Your figures are nonsense and the unsupported statement 'Nobodies knows names, location, conditions, absolutely nothing of these camps' is disinformation and exposes you to the accusation of revisionist
FoolOfGods 10 months ago
@FoolOfGods
I repeat: world know 6 polish prisoners camps but suprisingly you know more. Why don't you write book about it instead of spaming here?
Seriously speaking: you suggested than nobody (evan Communists who lived here over 40 years) couldn't find any sign of these mysterious camps. Even polish-russian commision couldn't find any signs of things you speak. There are milions people in these sites you write about and they can not see nothing.
odoslawa 10 months ago
Don't claim that you are a historician, if you were a historician you wouldn't behave like imbecile here.
Maybe you came to these sites and some dead soldiers ghosts showed you new truth. Buahaha.
odoslawa 10 months ago
@odoslawa What a marvelous sense of the absurd you have. I served in Army in Europe, & actually, believe it or not, obviously in your case it's not, as a career soldier I know what I am talking about, not spurious theorising and nonsense. my service time was spent in Intel Corp my civilian background is in forensics, not that interested in pissing contest with those who'd seek to defile the silent voices of the dead. My family lost 17 men in the 2 wars, I can't find any proof of that either
FoolOfGods 10 months ago
@FoolOfGods
I respect your dead family people if they were good people but don't insult me and Poland so I won't say about ghosts.
So you know 17 died during wars. Do you suggest that they died in concentration camps because there is not any proof that they are dead?
I still can't catch your idea about being in these lands. Explain me how a foreigner, soldier in Central Europe/Poland? could find any information about Soviets prisoners in Poland.
odoslawa 10 months ago
@odoslawa Buy yourself a ticket and go to Geneva, visit Red Cross see the massive building housing the card index system which catalogues the POW/concentration camp records you seem to think don't exist. Shame on you, setting yourself up as the voice of reason, while promoting a discredited genocidal political dogma. Propoganda, disinformation are poison, and your words are not just shameful, they are toxic. The dead of both sides deserve honour & respect, something you'd know nothing about.
FoolOfGods 10 months ago
@FoolOfGods
Ok I'm really sorry because I did not check the list of Polish camps with Soviets soldiers but it is the LIE that these camps were concentration camps as they was not killed there only died from diseases. You even don't know death rate there, don't you?, but you use the name "concentration". If Red Cross use such name it is pure lie, as they must know that prisoners were not killed then. Even Russian admit that.
odoslawa 10 months ago
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the Polish captivity has got all to 110 тыс the soldier, commanders and commissioners of Red Army. For them Poles have created the whole network of concentration camps - in Brest, Lukove, Vadovitse, Dombe, Tuhole, Stzhalkove, Pikulitse, Shiporno and in other places. This network covered almost all Polish territory
sss7773 11 months ago
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My grandmother told me that in WW2 when the Germans arrived at her village, they did not fear them. But when the Russians arrived, they raped children, killed people and destroyed food and livestock, burned everything down to the ground. They were just very uneducated and primitive criminals!!!!
lukasz103103 11 months ago
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My grandmother told me that in WW2 when the Germans arrived at her village, they did not fear them. But when the Russians arrived, they raped children, killed people and destroyed food and livestock, burned everything down to the ground. They were just very uneducated and primitive criminals!!!!
lukasz103103 11 months ago
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My grandmother told me that in WW2 when the Germans arrived at her village, they did not fear them. But when the Russians arrived, they raped children, killed people and destroyed food and livestock, burned everything down to the ground. They were just very uneducated and primitive criminals!!!!
lukasz103103 11 months ago
Agencja Merito rekrutowała statystów do tego filmu, reprezentujemy również odtwórczynie głównej roli dziecięcej Wiktorie Gąsiewską.
AgencjaMerito 11 months ago
6 persons are communist
danieljuliolanyon 11 months ago
"Ignorant" historians might want to start with the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact of dividing Europe between buddies. Or trying to.
Joonavainio 11 months ago
@Joonavainio Yes,Molotov-Ribbentrop pact is very good thing! It has shown Stalin's modesty! Under the pact it has taken away back territories occupied by Poles, and could ask and the Polish grounds, but has not made it. Stalin was modest, in difference from the European imperialists...
TheUkr2011 11 months ago
@TheUkr2011 If we were in one room , i would take even my computer and crash on ur face and kill u.
Even if I would waste my whole life...
TheBloody071 11 months ago
@TheBloody071 Yes I know it. All Poles gangsters and murderers! It is a pity that Stalin really has not shot you
TheUkr2011 11 months ago
Film for fools ignorant history. Poles wish to cover with it the crimes. Poland - the invader of the USSR and Poland has begun the Second World war together with Germany having attacked on Czechoslovakia
TheUkr2011 11 months ago
@TheUkr2011
Poles "occupied" own lands, Stalin hasn't take polish lands? Buy a dictionary and do not play fool.
Poland hadn't any deal with Hitler, just the opposite - Stalin and Ukraine were Hitler's friend. In 1938 we only took lands with polish majority.
odoslawa 11 months ago
@odoslawa
Really? Lvov, Brest is the Polish cities? In your country learn history on the American comics where war has won Mickey Mouse? After capture Czechoslovakia, Poland has developed the plan "East" - an attack to the USSR together with Hitler, but then has simply quarrelled with Germany. So it is not necessary to tell about the dictionary, this all is known and possible to find in the Internet. You have got used to hide the crimes being covered with " malicious Stalin "
TheUkr2011 11 months ago
@TheUkr2011
Of course Lwów and Brześć are Polish cities by history (even Ukrainian historian Nestor admits that) and by local people who lived there.
We took Zaolzie with polish majority after Czechs betrayed us in 1919. Simple justice.
Plan "East" had not anything common with Hitler and with USRR, it established defence by Poles if Soviets attack us. You need not only a dictionary but also knowledge how to use Internet and read with understanding.
odoslawa 11 months ago
@odoslawa
..)))..ha-ha.... If Lvov and Brest the Polish cities then Warsaw is the Chinese city. These are ancient Russian cities of times of the Kievan Rus', and Poles constantly grasped them. Last time Poland has attacked the USSR in 1920 and has grasped these cities again. Or you again tell that Poland defended?
TheUkr2011 11 months ago
@TheUkr2011
I'd rather worry about Kijów as it is more Swedish, generally half of Ukraine is Russian as you've already told.
Appearantly knowledge about own national literature and history is to difficult to you as you don't care about Nestor book. These cities were located in land stolen earlier from Poland in 981, the name "Polish lands taken from ancient Ukrainian thiefs" is better. In 1920 we confirmed our rights to our lands and we went east because Simon Petlura invited us for a party.
odoslawa 11 months ago
@odoslawa
Guy, you even a mesozoic era recollect. Poland was formed around of city Gniezno. You have grasped the rest. You are right, all went on the east. Russia has gone on the east and has grasped Siberia. You have gone on the east and have grasped Russian grounds. To argue here it is useless, for Russia Poland the invader. After Poland was friend USSR and it did not recollect, but you again have pulled out it also from it will suffer....
TheUkr2011 11 months ago
@TheUkr2011
What mesozoic era, normal time. Yes Poland was formed around of city Gniezno, that was polish capital. These land belonged to Polish=Lendians, we didn't take Russian lands so we wasn't any invider. Lwów land belonged legally to "normal" chritian, polish state with king and we didn't steal it from anybody.
odoslawa 11 months ago
@TheUkr2011 What you said is the best joke I ever heard really. Maybe if you repeat that lie thousand times somebody belives you. Maybe someone should tell you about times before Russian annexation started in 1795. And that must be painful for you that Poland didin't exist on Europe map for 123 years but never gave up and finaly raised up in 1918.
annaPolonia 6 months ago
@annaPolonia
Apparently this disguise in the Poles Stalin in Czechoslovakia attacked..)) 1795 a very good year, we managed to get rid of the aggressor, which is constantly on the us attacked...You thought pretend to be a "poor lamb" and the build of a sacrifice?
TheUkr2011 6 months ago
i dont care what people say for me all from easteurope my brothers spezialy my polnish slavic brothers i would die for all of your people and your country here in germany we bigget friends young russian people learning polnish and young polnish people learning russian=) our culture not much different our people always worriors and fighters for the good here i love you my friends
SLAVA POLSKA I SLAVA ROSSII
LoerrachRapTV 1 year ago
im russian man and i hate propaganda is true katyn is polska place for me not russia but schlesien was germany too is normal its the life=)
and i know many people from polska they said if they russians comed to polska there was really good a polnish man told me a story a man ukrain man said kill the polnish people and the germans(schlesien) to in our village the russian soldier gaived the ukrain man a cigaret and said to him turn a round and shoot him down
LoerrachRapTV 1 year ago
if a communist leader can see no harm in giving order to massacres although all the communist education on human rights = nothing can make me believe in humanity anymore.
hiroshima , auchwitz , gulags , pol pot , nanjing massacre (japans did) , tiananmen square, armenian massacre ....
jacklondon21 1 year ago
Brave Polish brothers! Hungary is and ever will be on your side! We will never forget you and our historical friendship. russians go home!
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@bigsajt
Your Hungary bears responsibility for thirty millions Russian which were killed by Hungary together with Hitler
sss7773 10 months ago
@bigsajt
Your Hungary bears responsibility for thirty millions Russian which were killed by Hungary together with Hitler
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@bigsajt
Stalin has killed twenty millions and you confirm it in a documentary film about 20 thousand persons killed by Stalin, something doesn't grow together at you
If you not in a course Hungary was Hitler's hot supporter, because of you my country have lost 30 millions persons - here that you should remember, and 56th is correct that we haven't allowed to be made to a revenge to racists in Hungary
sss7773 10 months ago
@sss7773 Racist revolution in Hungary, 1956? Omg, how can you talk about one of our most sensitive historical episodes like that? Shame on you! And yes ,many russian soldiers died because of your FANATIC LEADERS not because of other NATIONS! This is why you had to live always under bad conditions... because the most of you are stupid. I closed the argument with you. You're just talking senseless shit. I recommend you to go beneath another videos. This is not your place to troll the people.
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Stalin has killed twenty millions and you confirm it in a documentary film about 20 thousand persons killed by Stalin, something doesn't grow together at you
If you not in a course Hungary was Hitler's hot supporter, because of you my country have lost 30 millions persons - here that you should remember, and 56th is correct that we haven't allowed to be made to a revenge to racists in Hungary
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bigsajt 10 months ago 9
@bigsajt If you think so you're in a huge error ...
I am Polish and I live in a country that has been left alone when WW II began.
Even the cruelty of German concentration camps can not be matched by deeds Russians madeduring and after the war. You say not to blame the Russian soldiers ... I know their cruelty. I learned about them from stories my parents. German soldiers were soldiers but the Russians ... This is not to describe.
groneek 4 months ago 3
@bigsajt If you think so you're in a huge error ...
I am Polish and I live in a country that has been left alone when WW II began.
Even the cruelty of German concentration camps can not be matched by deeds Russians madeduring and after the war. You say not to blame the Russian soldiers ... I know their cruelty. I learned about them from stories my parents. German soldiers were soldiers but the Russians ... This is not to describe.
groneek 4 months ago
@groneek
Sure pal. It was all russians and jews who did this right because we all know that you poles were never anti-tsarist devils who wished death and pain to the russian people. We know how much hostility you gave and showed towards that spawn of Satan when he came to live in Krakow. Didn't one of you even said to the "Iron man" Uncle Joe how "we both are children of oppressed nations". ha ha ha
BENNYSIEGEL90 4 months ago
@bigsajt Dzienkuje, thank you !
MisterrDoubleK 9 months ago
@bigsajt The Hungarian appeared, whose country совместо with Hitler has killed ten millions people
sss7773 8 months ago
@sss7773 Ok then live in your illusion you insignificant, ignorant asshole. Are you being paid for provocating people on Youtube? I'd rather stop this if I were you... Fortunately, there are normal and honorable people in Russia too... You don't belong there. Ignored.
bigsajt 8 months ago
@sss7773 Learn to start an argument yours is very frustrating to read as it dosent of does very littel make much sense
BIGUNKboy 8 months ago
@bigsajt
It is not necessary to use the term Russian, Russian, in particular, my grandfather and the great-grandfather have gone volunteers to be at war with nazis, have got in camp of death of Hitler, ran and further were at war with nazis - here they, Russian than were engaged
About Stalin and Russian so any nations of the world so haven't suffered from Stalin, as Russian
Interesting, and than your relatives were engaged during the Second World War???
sss7773 8 months ago
@bigsajt We in Poland love Hungarian brothers. POWER!
TheSnuFFerr 8 months ago
@TheSnuFFerr Thanks! It's good to realise that we have brothers and friends as well, who don't hate us, just because we're hungarians! We love you too Poles! Polak, Węgier, dwa bratanki, i do szabli, i do szklanki. And don't forget to visit Hungary in 2011, we're waiting for you. And I won't forget to travel to Kraków in the summer. :)
bigsajt 8 months ago
@bigsajt
very good joke from fascist clown..))
and you have paid compensation for the attack on the us? no? then we will soon it will come..))
TheUkr2011 6 months ago
@bigsajt Ruszkik haza ! Azért minket is jól elnyomtak,akárcsak a nácik!
ibibali 6 months ago
@bigsajt Would you rather have Russians or Americans as your friend?
e0o9kii 5 months ago
A few years ago I was touring Auschwtiz Concentration Camp and my tour guide was a 30 y/o woman whose father died in the camp. I brought up the subject about how the Russians liberated the death camp and she quietly whispers to me in her broken English "Never trust a Russian" I couldn't help but bite my lip from laughing. That comment has always stayed with me.
BobChippewa 1 year ago
@BobChippewa this is not funny!
TheMissEeS 10 months ago
FUCKING RUSSIAN PIGS!
SouthSugarMan 1 year ago
@SouthSugarMan
Fuck you too
oOoNear2meoOo 1 year ago
@oOoNear2meoOo No,im already fuck up!
But is better then being a silly PIG like you!
SLAVE!
SouthSugarMan 1 year ago
@SouthSugarMan
kiss my ass mother fuck
oOoNear2meoOo 1 year ago
@oOoNear2meoOo Mother fuck???wahahaha
You silly PigHead!No i dont wanna fuck your mom thanks.Dont like smelly fat sandapes pussys!Do it your self!PIGSLIM
SouthSugarMan 1 year ago
@oOoNear2meoOo Now i c,you are a fucking muslim pig!Go suck that cock of that PIG,Muhamed the false prophet.SILLY YOU...CANCER OF THIS EARTH!
SouthSugarMan 1 year ago
Questo capolavoro in Italia ha avuto 2 giorni di programmazione in quattro misere sale. Siamo vergognosi!!!! Molto meglio l'ennesima porcheria made in Usa
taddarita75 1 year ago
polish occupant die?good job!!
jebacpolacov14 1 year ago
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macio861 1 year ago
@jebacpolacov14 Knock it off dog!! you Could be next!
macio861 1 year ago
>like the Polish goverment
Thats true. Londons Poles supporting Goebbels provocation was not less, that collaboration with Nazi Reich.
>you refused to acknowladge
of course, we dont need a nazi collaborant in Antihitler coalition. USA and UK understood it too(Tehran).
>asked for investigation.
I think it could be very good, if Sikorski flew to Katyn too, as Goebbels wrote(Goebbels even never doubt, that Sikorski ll agree).
>i dont want nothing from your people
Same about your people.
163linker 1 year ago
@163linker "collaboration with Nazi Reich" - this sentence makes you look just stupid.
Of course soon after the war you "understood" that UK & USA are just "nazis" to...
No, not the same, you wanted to "liberate" us and now you can`t understasnd why we don`t kiss your ass for 40 years of "liberation".
MaximusProteus 1 year ago
@MaximusProteus
>case which is closed.
That case still not closed until Nuremberg. Were there any other Katyn courts? Yes, in 1992, on constitutional court over CPSU. Even there Katyn documents werent acknowladged.
>this sentence makes you look just stupid.
Why?
>understood that UK & USA are just nazis to...
Really? Cold war was declared by West, when they 'understood', that USSR = Reich.
>you wanted to liberate us
We needed to see a friendly Poland on our borders.
163linker 1 year ago
@163linker ... you don`t have any "friends", only puppets.
There was no case in Nurymberg trails, just a collective agreement on the soviet "investigation".
MaximusProteus 1 year ago
@MaximusProteus
And London`s Poles never agreed to build a coalition government with Lublin`s commutee.
>we don`t kiss your ass
We don`t need it.
163linker 1 year ago
@163linker Bullshit, Mikołajczyk tryied, but the Lublin "Poles" were just puppets and Moscow would most probably cheat, sentence or kill him just like gen. Leopold Okulicki and the rest of the officers of Polish state...
You needed for 40 years somehow.
MaximusProteus 1 year ago
@MaximusProteus
>Mikołajczyk tryied
He tried to receive all control over Poland. It wasn`t acceptable for USSR, because we need a friendly Poland. Could Milokaychik`s government be friendly for USSR? Could they be friendly for USSR after declaration of Cold war? I doubt. Antysoviet pre-war policy, prometheism, NATO forces in Poland is more probably policy for London`s Poland.
Neutral Poland was also good for USSR. But it was impossible - so sorry, but control over Poland was necessary.
163linker 1 year ago
@163linker
Obviously that`s not true, you couldn`t share any bit of power with Poles, you had to have full control, not "friendship".
Finally a word of truth from you. Soviets needed to control occupation zone of Germany and couldn`t move one step back, the global "revolution" was the goal, always.
MaximusProteus 1 year ago
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@MaximusProteus
>you couldn`t share any bit of power with Poles
Stalin tried... All Polish movements really showed, that it`s impossible.
>Soviets needed to control occupation zone of Germany and couldn`t move one step back
Ololo. Stalin(and then Beria) exactly tried to make a one neutral Germany. Anglosaxons, of course, disagreed, because they needed to control Western Germany.
163linker 1 year ago
@MaximusProteus
Stalin tried... All Polish movements really showed, that it s really impossible, because Mikolaychik wanted all or nothing.
Ololo. Stalin(and then Beria) exactly tried to make a one neutral Germany. Anglosaxons, of course, disagreed, because they needed to control Western Germany.
163linker 1 year ago
@163linker You`re hopeles, totally brainwashed.
MaximusProteus 1 year ago
@163linker Poland should be the ONLY country to have control over Poland. You and your realpolitk can go to hell along with the Russian murderers and Stalin.
Zeppolino100 1 year ago
BigLouieLittlePhilly and you love what GERMANY DID TO US IN ww2 ? and that fucking hitler ??!
dzidka111 1 year ago
hahahaha good job
jebacpolacov14 1 year ago
In ways, we should all be thankful for Sovjet, if it weren't for them, many of us would be under Nazi ockupation or maybe not even alive..
MultiSuperduperME 1 year ago
@MultiSuperduperME That can qualify for Britan and France, but not for the countries that were occupied by Soviet union after the WW2. And Soviets committed crimes on the same scale as Nazis but they got away with it.
SuperFinnish 1 year ago
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@SuperFinnish
>And Soviets committed crimes on the same scale as Nazis
That`s false. Finns were allies of Reich, so millions of victims are on their responcibility too. USSR rescued world from nazis, and never let to build 'Great Finland' - that`s why you hate USSR.
163linker 1 year ago
this is the best movie I've ever seen. I'm German, so the polish people are special near to my heart. I was crying at the end...and still am crying...sorry to all suffered under that f...ing Nazis
grazyarnie 1 year ago 2
Это был бы неплохим фильмом если бы он не клеветал на Советский Союз. Не верьте Гебельсовской пропаганде. А Польша это подлая страна.
lilian20ful 1 year ago
@lilian20ful Советский Союз это подлая страна....
MaximusProteus 1 year ago
@MaximusProteus Нет, ты не прав. А поляков расстреляли немцы.
163linker 1 year ago
@163linker Suuure, Germans... wiser people investigates this case, there`s no question about who did it anymore.
MaximusProteus 1 year ago
@MaximusProteus
>Suuure, Germans...
Of course.
>wiser people investigates this case
That`s correct, Burdenko comission consisted of wise people.
>there`s no question about who did it anymore.
I agree with you again.
163linker 1 year ago
@163linker Soviets investigating a crime in which are suspected... ? Than you`ll tell me Gorbachev falsyfied documents becouse hated soviets and so on... Stop joking, it`s not funny at all.
No offence, you`re not neutral either and i don`t want to discuss it with a beliver of sovietism.
MaximusProteus 1 year ago
@MaximusProteus
>Soviets investigating a crime in which are suspected... ?
Same about Germans in 1943. But, do you want to see German documentation about Katyn? You`ll can`t. Because Germans burned a CARRIAGE of Katyn documents. Of course, it`s normal, when suspected burns an evidence, whitch aquittal him :) Even Goebbels understood, that there 'could be found things, whitch not according to our version.'
>Than you`ll tell me Gorbachev falsyfied documents
That`s true.
163linker 1 year ago
@163linker Germans at least tryied to make it apear like an international investigation. Even Goebbels understood the outcome of soviet "investigation" before it ever begun... No idea about the carriage, but there`re enough of other evidences.
Right, i guess he worked for Goebbels too, just like the Polish goverment you refused to acknowladge when... asked for investigation.
Please Linker, i don`t want nothing from your people, but the lies you repeat are just ridiculous.
MaximusProteus 1 year ago
@MaximusProteus
>Germans at least tryied to make it apear like an international investigation.
Awesome 'investigation'. Nobody could do nothing without German allow. Report was signed in unknown airfield. Doctors Hayek, Markov and Orsos showed us, how it was in reality.
>but there`re enough of other evidences.
Whitch evidences? I see, that all evidences proves exactly German fault.
>Right, i guess he worked for Goebbels too
For his masters from pizza house :)
163linker 1 year ago
@163linker .... cut this crap. You`re an international socialist and a beliver of Stalin culth, you`ll always excuse that no matter what hapends and i`m not going to fight over a case which is closed.
MaximusProteus 1 year ago
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@MaximusProteus
>case which is closed.
That case still not closed until Nuremberg. Were there any other Katyn courts? Yes, in 1992, on constitutional court over CPSU. Even there Katyn 'documents' weren`t acknowladged.
>this sentence makes you look just stupid.
Why?
>you "understood" that UK & USA are just "nazis" to...
Really? Cold war was declared by West, when they "understood", that USSR = Reich.
>you wanted to "liberate" us
We needed to see a friendly Poland on our borders.
163linker 1 year ago