@WUDJABEABLE as i have already said. I am most certainly not Irish. unless you call all Canadians American? just because its the same landmass doesn't mean Ireland's all one nationality. Frankly thats ludocris thinking.
@WUDJABEABLE thats incorrect. here are the facts. under the british immigration act in 1983, people born in northern ireland are classed as british. however they are also entitled to dual nationality and can therefore call themselves irish and hold an irish passport. (in the context of nationality). the statute of westminster also says pretty much the same thing.
why when a video of n.i fans or the teams achievements is posted does every bitter gobshite feel he has the right to offer a political opinion about the rights and wrongs of the brits,prods,huns,the easter rising and the potato famine ? get the chip of your shoulder and move on, we are not the ones on here trying really hard to mask our secterian views with some sort of political/social commentary p.s. irish and proud &british and proud
@1882mick i agree. its a crying shame that i end up having to defend myself for uploading this video. i was going to disable the comments but it would seem like accepting defeat lol.
@TheGoc5 i think you undermined yourself by writing that. all you have done is proven @RoyalBluesProduction right. You are a sectarian piece of shit. Now fuck off, go watch some videos you will actually like, rather than come onto a video you know you r gonna hate and be a dick on it.
@BruceRobboFanClub i don't see your point, we are singing the teams official national anthem, before an international game. just as we do at every single NI match.
@paulgrills2: Your not seeing the point sums up the problem. I agree that GSTQ is the British anthem but that didn't stop Scotland and Wales adopting indigenous songs as sporting anthems - they still use GSTQ is every other context. Let's call a spade a spade; a huge number of NI fans don't really want Catholics playing in the bigoted cesspit that is Windsor Park, especially if they play for Celtic (look at the treatment dished out to Lennon, McGinn and even Anton Rogan 20 years ago).
@BruceRobboFanClub Well NI is doing just that. Gary Lightbody has pledged to write a new anthem. and your comment about NI fans not wanting catholics playing for us is completely idiotic. Some of our best players are catholics, Sammy Clinghan, Niall McGinn and Pat McCourt for example. NI fans actually give more respect to catholic/nationalists who join the squad because many tend to play for the republic, simply because they are nationalist. ***see next comment***
@BruceRobboFanClub *Continued* You will actually find that it is generally the other way round. many (NOT ALL) nationalists do not want to play for NI. They wrongly percieve us as sectarian. NI fans want every player from Northern Ireland to want to play for us. rather than leave us to play for ROI like D Gibson and M Wilson. We have actually won awards for our attempts to stamp out sectarianism. There will always be a minority who try to ruin that but you see the same sort of fans for ROI.
@paulgrills2: My comment is about as idiotic as the parcel bomb sent to McGinn last year. I'm delighted to hear Lightbody is writing an anthem and I would love to believe that it's only minority in Windsor Park that are sectarian but I just don't buy that. And for what it's worth I agree that NI born players should play for NI but then I can hardly blame them for not wanting to play, given the circumstances.
@BruceRobboFanClub you are simply wrong. the majority of people who support northern ireland are not sectarian. if they where they would not celebrate our good catholic players. as I said the fans have won awards for trying to stamp out sectarianism. and for a while where regarded as the best fans in europe.
Northern Ireland doesn't have an anthem. God save the queen is the british anthem but like the english the north doesn't have an anthem. It's not a state anyway so why should it. God save the queen should be banned in Ireland until they apologise.
@jorgenpfhartogs actually its the uk national anthem, not the british (there's a difference). the british have made mistakes in the past but they have nothing to apologize for, they have done their best to make up for past mistakes. besides, its a different government now than it was back then. our current govt has done nothing wrong. so they have nothing to apologize for. maybe sinn fein should be banned until its leaders apologize for the troubles and admit their wrong doings.
DISLIKE THIS VIDEO if your ashamed of the Irish supporters who booed God Save The Queen....we live in a modern Ireland there is no room for this Republican bigotry
@51wins The queen would never do anything for you and she never has done. God will not save her as she poses as the head of the English church but shows no Christian ethics such as treating others as you would be treated. Do not idolise false gods like the queen. Do what you want, i just don't think it's worth your bother :)
Your wrong...we don't idolise the Queen, she is our head of state just the same as Obama is the President of the USA people don't idolise him either. You can't compare the Queen to the Pope for example Roman Catholics call the hope "The Holy Father" his official title is "Christ On Earth".
Yes but the Queens isn't the spiritual head of the Church, the Queen is just the symbolic over-seer of the church. For example the Queen doesn't actually take any decisions or make any rules of the church.
The Pope on the other hand is known and sees himself as the rightful head and heir to Christ on Earth. Pretty sicking.
@EFCMcCarthyCFC i think you will find it was 3-0 in this match, so u should probably leave that comment on a NI vs ROI video. This one was against scotland. Still a poor result like. but nigel worthington has ruined our team.
@paulgrills2 neither anthem should be booed, I keep respect when god save the queen is played so why shouldnt amhran na bfhiann get respect? yes i am aware that it is football.
@weezerpleaser18 it should, my video doesnt show it being played. so why are you bringing your grievances here? you also have to remember that outside football there are thousdands of things that the irish dont respect about northern ireland/uk and vice versa. its all a bit tit for tat really.
@paulgrills2 but your saying if us republic fans went upto windsor park booing god save the queen we'd actually make it out alive? wouldnt appen tho because we have that respect you see.
@weezerpleaser18 well i for one, did not turn around. and i don't remember anyone else on my side doing it either. in fact come to think of it, i dont even remember them playing the irish national anthem, they werent even playing.
@weezerpleaser18 you have confused me now. you r complaining about something that isnt shown in this video, that didnt even happen at the time this video was taken. i think its safe to assume that you r just trolling.
@weezerpleaser18 then fuck off and complain on a video about that match! i wasnt even at the NI ROI match. in face there where very few NI fans. because there was a boycott of the match because the NI management took a bribe (supposedly) from the dublin bus company. so that you could only go to the match if u also travelled with that bus. u couldnt drive down yourself. it was complete bullshit and costed much more than any other bus tour company.
@shughes375 it is britains anthem, but its the anthem that NI uses. if like i shall rename the video "NI singes the british national anthem in dublin?" however that seems a bit pedantic
@paulgrills2 but its still britains anthem if i would call it Northern Ireland Sings "GOD SAVE THE QUEEN" in Dublin -(Aviva) and what i think is that there should be a 32 county team with a different flag so it doesn't offend anyone and anthem like rugby
@shughes375 im sorry, but that works both ways. there is nothing about the NI football team that excludes nationalists. they exclude themselves, by refusing to support the team of the country they live in. even though some of our best players are strong nationalists. "theres only one sammy clingan, hes from the falls and hes got big balls"- one of the most sang songs at winsor park.
@tarmonhill it was in the republic, against scotland. obviously there wasnt going to be a big crowd there. you r just adding comments to be a troll. please fuck off
@tarmonhill yea, obviously we have the same national anthem, its the national anthem of the UK, northern ireland doesnt have its own and neither does england.
as for the flag, thats idiotic, its very different. its based on the coat of arms of the governor of northern ireland, which was in turn based on the ulster provence flag.
@vastasio I cant remember what we did last time actually, i would assume that we just play it the once. unfortunately neither england or NI do not have unofficial anthems to fall back on so it would be a bit odd if they played it twice through.
@Footbalcrazychocomad firstly it is the anthem of the UK, england doesnt have their own anthem and neither does NI. as we are part of the UK we sing its national anthem. the anthems of wales and scotland are unofficial. at scottish parliment they sing the uk anthem because its still their official anthem. secondly the UK didnt exist until 1921 ROI left the british empire as lot of other countries left at the same time under the statute of westminster. see next.....>>>
@Footbalcrazychocomad >continued. finally, saying that britain is a waste of space is ridiculous. we gave the world a lot more good than bad. without us ireland wouldnt have had an industrial revouloution. we bailed ROI out of 2 credit crisis in the past 70 years. britain made ireland one united island in the 1500s (henry 8th) before it still wasnt even a feudal clan system. of course there are many mistakes that britain has made but there are many more things we have done that are good.
@davey32 it isnt the english national anthem. england doesnt have an anthem. god save the queen is the anthem of the UK. scotland and wales use their respective anthems in place of GSTQ however they are unofficial. at all parliment meetings in scotland and wales and all official events the UK national anthem is used.
@andytownman1916 admittedly we have been playing horrifically lately. however a lot has to be down to our joke of a manager. once he is out i hope to see us get a lot better
I dont think you know what the real anything is! Your view of the world is not only distorted and bigotted.....it's moronic.....but talk away....you're just embarrassing yourself!
@Ballysillanone agreed. he makes shit up, then i give him historical facts and he tells me that im "twisting it" and being a "typical hun" and then claims that he isnt bigoted. haha
@Ballysillanone embarrassed ?? you didnt reply to my last comment cos you wer bein embarrassed, your debating is like your football team EMBARRASSING !!!!
i dont hate british people i hate british people who think british rule should remain in ireland, i never once said i hate all brits, and from de outset i only used history to prove englands atrocities, again de hun tries to twist it to suit himself
@FinuteD1 you have been incredibly bigoted the entire time you have been argueing, and stating history incorrectly just to suit yourself. i have never once twisted any facts in this argument and have been as un biased as i can be. admitting britains mistakes. however you havent once said that ireland has made mistakes or ever admited when you are wrong. you simply go off on a tangent.
@FinuteD1 shamrocks and colours dont make us confused. they are just the colours and emblems of our team. shamrocks are used all over ireland not just the south. and countries all over the world use green. so how does that make us confused? would you be happier if we wore red white and blue with a picture of oliver cromwell on the back of the shirt? somehow i doubt it.
@FinuteD1 ireland is an island. which has 2 countries. the shamrock represents all of ireland, not just the republic. im afraid it seems to be you who is confused. and its not a claim to be british. its a fact that residents of NI are british unless they actively claim irish nationality. according to the good friday agreement and the british immigration act
@paulgrills2 exactly, confused, your defeating your own argument, your sayin your irish but your british at de same time, and yes de shamrock does represent all of ireland i.e de irish people in ireland, not ye ! ye are not irish and never will be, ye are a disgrace to ireland
@FinuteD1 ur an idiot! i didnt say that we r both irish and british. we r one or the other. if i had my way we would all be british(in NI). and the shamrock represents all ireland, ireland the island. not just the irish people. it represents the whole of the island, regardless of nationality. and all i did is strengthen my argument. the only problem is that you are an asshole and a complete idiot.
@paulgrills2 if you want to be british go to britain, again you say we use de shamrock because its an emblem for ireland but if we had our way wed be british ur confused mate ur people are confused, what are ye gona do when ireland is united ? are ye gona go home or are ye gona stay here confused or what ? why would you want to use an irish emblem if you wnat to be british so bad, CONFUSED !!!!
@FinuteD1 for the last time its an emblem of all ireland. ireland has 2 countries, ROI and NI, NI is british(fact). just because the nationality is british doesnt mean that they cant use the symbol of an island that bares no meaning whatsoever to that islands split nationalities. u seem to thinnk that the shamrock is connected to nationalities but it is not. ireland will not be united in the near future. and if it was i certainly would not leave, NI is my home regardless of who rules it.
@paulgrills2 oh my god are you fuckin stupid ?? are you really that fuckin retarded ?? the shamrock is an IRISH fuckin emblem yes its for the whole island, its for everyone on the island whos fuckin irish !!! you are not fuckin irish !! you fuckin retard iv had to explain everything in plain english for you. your startin to bore me now,with your unbelievable uneducated comments, heres plain english for you !! THE SHAMROCK IS AN IRISH SYMBOL FOR IRISH PEOPLE YOU ARE NOT IRISH !!!
@FinuteD1 and yet again you are incapable of reading my comment. the symbol of a country is not the same as the symbol of a nation. if that was the case the shamrock would only represent ROI. whereas the shamrock represents all of ireland. ireland HAS 2 NATIONALITIES THEREFORE IT REPRESENTS BOTH OF THEM!!! it does not only represent irish people, it represents everyone in ireland WHETHER THEY ARE IRISH OR BRITISH. the shamrock was still the symbol or ireland when ireland was under british rule.
@FinuteD1 yet again you fail to read my comments. the shamrock does not represent irish people because it became a trademark or ireland when ireland was under british rule. i can not make this any clearer. and besides the IFA was established before partition and represented all of ireland, so it only makes sense that they had a shamrock in their colours. what you tend to do is to repeat the same thing over again even though i give clear evidence to show the contrary.
@paulgrills2 the shamrocks irish your not simple as, ye use it just so ye can have some kind of attachment or claim to ireland, fact of the matter is use it all ye want cos everyone knows who the real ireland is
@FinuteD1 i fund this hilarious because all you have been doing recently is claiming that NI is part of ireland and that its people are irish. and that ireland is going to be united. and now u say that people know who the real ireland is. so now u want segregation? you sir are a retard. and i actually find it funny argueing with you, because it is so easy to win against u.
@paulgrills2 yes as in de real ireland is everyone on the island exept the english wannabes duh !i alredy explaind to you how 'roi' is only our official name but the irish team represents every1 on de island exept the ones who think ther english i.e THE REAL IRELAND which includes the whole island and everyone on it who believes in freedom,wich automatically excludes your confused crowd,what are you winnin mate ?? no huns will ever beat any of us in anything !! 5-0 to the REAL IRELAND proves dat
@FinuteD1 im winning this argument. haha everything u say i beat and then u change the subject. idiot. and that is the most bigoted and wrong remark i have ever heard. ROI is only an official name? and they represent all of ireland? NO...the irish cricket rugby and athletics teams represent all of ireland but the football team most certainly does not, that is a statement of fact and you can not argue with that.
@paulgrills2 darron gibbson, daryl murphy etc etc they play for us cos we represent irish people and ireland, look at all our jerseys and crests none of them ever had roi written on them even our current crest simply says ireland, on yours it only says northern ireland, ours says IRELAND cos we represent IRELAND cant put that in plainer english for you, and im failin to see what your ''winning'' iv clearly showed britains atrocities have been far worse throughout history
@FinuteD1 darron gibson etc play for ireland because they are nationalist, and have dual citizenship. the team represents ROI have you ever watched a match? in the top left of the screen it always says ROI. u might think they represent ireland but not according to fifa. and what fifa says in football goes. im winning because you are living in the past. and then u use "facts" against me and then i prove that you are wrong. thats how im winning
@paulgrills2 exactly according to fifa its our official name u really are retarded, the only place you ever saw ROI is on english or british TV u will never see it on irish tv, u will never here a player, manager, or irish commentator say it we always call it ireland because thats who we represent IRELAND and the IRISH people ye only represent unionist NI a ''country'' nationalists dont even recognise, stop making me repeat myself try get all this info into your thick HUN skull, I WIN !! :)
@FinuteD1 HAHAHAh u win? u dont recognize a country that has existed for the last hundred years, that makes you a bigot. not only that it makes u an idiot. you are living in the past. try to move on with your opinions, your current opinions are based on things that happened a long time ago. under a different government and by different people. yet you somehow seem to feel that the current british people should still be held accountable? thats retarded.
@paulgrills2 ''country'' hahahahaha, british anthem and irish emblems yeah some ''country'' kid, if ye are a country why dont ye have a national anthem like every other country in the world, and again the hun twists it, when did i say british people should be held accountable ?? never said it typical hun twisting it, its not a country btw mate its a foreign occupation of PART of a country, as in england is FOREIGN their queen is FOREIGN that makes it a foreign occupation simples ;)
@FinuteD1 i find it hilarous when people call it occupation. because it isnt FACT. NI is british FACT england is british and so is the queen FACT therefore the queen and england are not foreign FACT. scotland and wales do not have their own OFFICIAL national anthems FACT.
@paulgrills2 haha yes they do, flower of scotland and wales Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau, and you didnt seem to pressed to reply to my other comment, the one where i said i seen some comments to other people on other videos passing remarks like ''fenian bastard'' which proves your the bigot, then again the orange order do have strong links with the KKK so i suppose racism and bigotry is in your blood, I UNDISPUTEDLY WIN, you racist sectarian bigoted scumbag
@FinuteD1 i did reply to it. i have never once been racist on this nor have i been sectarian. however you wont believe the shared computer thing (understandable) so thats why i actually apologized. and as i already said they do not have OFFICIAL anthems. because land of our fathers and flower of scotland are not official. trust me, i want NI to have an anthem of their own simply to stop sectarianism. however i personally like GSTQ. and im not in the orange order so that remark is irrelevant.
@paulgrills2 course you like GSTQ your a bigot, im sorry iv won this one and furthermore i do not debate with low life sectarians, and whats the difference between sectarianism and racism ?? its both hatred of a people, good day to you bigot ;)
@FinuteD1 there is a very clear difference between sectarianism and racism. and you are nothing but sectarian. u refer to me as a "filthy hun bastard" so i find it highly hypocritical for you to say that.
@paulgrills2 ''hun'' makes no reference to religion or nationality, it means opresser like atilla and his huns and the nazis oh yeah and the british who were refered to in ireland durin the irish war of independence as ''brittanias huns'' nice try to twist it AGAIN but im afraid your the sectarian bigot you filthy HUN bastard
@FinuteD1 the word bigot does not mean religion or nationality. and you are a bigot. everyhting you have said pointe towards it. you are stupid to think you arent. you have shown that you hate the british in your coments although you have not explicitly said it. but i cba re reading everything to find a quote. although the fact that you float around NI pages spouting your idiocracy tells me all i need to know
@paulgrills2 keep tryin to twist it but it wont work, i specifically said i do NOT hate british people i said i hate people who oppose irish freedom, why would i hate brits ? 46 percent think there should be a united ireland 21 oppose it, its only natural to hate people who oppose freedom... like the nazis, the kkk and the orange order, the hun tries to twist once again but once again he fails miserably
@FinuteD1 im literally not twisting anything. ur fool. i dont oppose irish freedom at all. the irish got their freedom. and NI got to stay with the union. how is that opposing freedom. so in that case im not a hun by your definition. fail miserable? hahahaha each point of this argument u chose and i won the majority of them hahaha
@paulgrills2 so the nationalists in the north are free what a moron ! ireland will not be free til the 32 are united, you oppose that therefore you oppose freedom,if 46 percent of brits think ireland should be united can u imagine if the rest of the world were polled,id say close enough to 100 percent of the world think ireland should be united, ye are the only ones who oppose it, ye therefore oppose freedom, the only thing you have won my good man is which one of us is a bigot,congrats bigot :D
@FinuteD1 irelend is currently free! to say otherwise is completely idiotic. you are a bigot, because u say that just because im british i oppose freedom? thats a pretty bigoted thing to say FACT. the majority of people in the north want to stay with the union FACT and thats the only thing that matters. just because france thinks that ireland should be united doesnt mean that it should happen. france isn't in NI. and ROI doesnt get a say either because they are not part of NI. read next comment
@FinuteD1 if ever the majority of people in NI supported a united ireland I would still oppose it but i would not stop it. and quite frankly that means that i do not oppose freedom of any kind. all you have proven is that you are tremendously stupid
@paulgrills2 are you still here bigot ? would you not run along and watch some neo nazi rangers vids, or the orange order and the kkk or somethin ? and if you oppose irish freedom then you oppose freedom simples ;)
@FinuteD1 i do not oppose irish freedom, the irish are free, in fact it is awfully bigoted of you to say that the irish are not. also you do not recognize NI as a country, in fact you called it "a small part of ireland" "occupied by foreign forces", this makes you a bigot. so i find it highly hypocritical that you would call me one. and i will be here, this is my video. and btw I do win. the original argument was about the title of the video, and i was right about that, so unequivocally you lose
@paulgrills2 yes it is a part of ireland thats occupied, and if im a bigot for thinkin that then so is the rest of the world, typical hun everybody else is wrong haha, the name of this island is ireland and a small part in the corner is occupied by britain (thats a different island altogether btw) and the irish are not free what about irish people in the 6 counties they are far from free, especially if theres nazi scum like you around
@FinuteD1 no it is not occupied. it is goverened and owned, that is a fact and not an opinion. to call it occupied makes you a bigot. britain is not an island, is is a collection of islands. over a hundred in fact. and the irish are completely free. are they slaves? how are they not free? in NI they have the right to irish citizenship along with british. if they remain in NI they they have to conform to british law. it would be the same for british people living in spain. nazi scum? hahahahaha
@paulgrills2 your tryin your best to switch your label of bigot to me hahahaha not gona happen bigot just let me remind you of your comment ''WEE FENIAN BASTARDS'' and obviously we are gona hav a different opinion regardin the 6 counties, ye say its not occupied the rest of the world does simples, i think you have enough of a brain to agree to disagree, i did point out to you b4 that even most brits think there should be a united ireland let alone the irish and the world
@FinuteD1 its not an opinion. its a fact, NI is not occupied. we cannot agree to disagree because it is a fact. im not trying to shift any labels. all im saying is that no matter what you say, u have proved that you your self are a bigot. and i already pointed out to you the only people who should have an opinion on what NI should be are the people of NI, along with the british government and obviously the british government want/need to keep us. otherwise we would have been dissolved already.
@paulgrills2 i proved im a bigot ?? hahaha again ill remind you ''fenian bastards'' you are the bigot, you dont even no what the word fenian means and your spouting it off like the ignorant bigot you are
@FinuteD1 haha i already explained how you are a bigot, in more ways than one. and to paraphrase what you said in another video "ill say what i want, and no one will tell me otherwise"....however i did not say it, i already explained that i have a shared computer.
@FinuteD1 i clearly did not avoid a question, if you actually read my reply you would see that i made your question irrelevant because the answer would entail repeating myself.
you see you did not ask that last time. most people tend to believe that fenian means irish warrior of the 3rd and 4th centuries. however the word did not actually emerge until the unsuccessful irish revolt of 1867, where the rebels refered to themselves as "the fenian brotherhood" over the years the FB and the IRB evolved into the IRA. so by using the word fenian i am not actually a bigot. to refer to a terrorist as a bastard is not bigoted at all.
@paulgrills2 wrong again hun, fenian is the anglicised version of the gaelic (thats the native language of this island just so ya no) word fiann which means soldier, so by the huns callin us fenians there calling us soldiers or warriors haha sad cunts, just think bout that next tim your callin ''fenian bastards''
@FinuteD1im not wrong, in fact you clearly conform to the people i was talking about who believe that it means warrior, i suggest that you look it up, because i am actually right here, the word fenian (not fiann) emerged in 1867. and i have explained why. however i did take the time to look up hun, hun is the only thing that i have been wrong about so far, and in actual fact so r u, hun refers to 2 things, nomadic people of mongolia, and people of german descent, not nazis or british (all facts)
@paulgrills2 obviously hun isnt officially the name for brits hahaha, i said we adopted it in the irish war of independence after the germans were called it in the WW's, and the germans were called it after the mongolian emperors army attila and his huns, fenian means soldier accept it, look at our anthem ''sinne FIANNA fail'' (the first line), soldiers are we, simple as that
@FinuteD1 im not going to accept something that isnt correct. it does not mean soldier. Fianna means soldier. fenian is not only a different word, but was created by Irish nationalists themselves as a name for themselves. (Fenian Brotherhood). this was the first time that the name fenian was ever used. fenian is not anglicised as you say. completely wrong. i am giving you facts and dates here. where as you are giving me hearsay and assumptions.
@paulgrills2 wrong again fianna means soldiers, and yes it is anglicised ya numpty, it originated in america before the fenian brotherhood by an irish american named john o'mahony, he named the republican wing of his movement ''the fenians'' anglicised from fianna in irish which means soldiers boooooya haha did you think they just plucked the word fenian from the sky haha, you might be givin dates and facts but unfortunately they are wrong, i win again ;)
@FinuteD1 im afraid you are wrong, still. i already know of this, however it was not anglicized at all the fenians and the FB are the same thing. in fact he founded the fenian brotherhood. the fenians was simply another name for them. it is not anglicized because he was irish. the FB was founded in USA however branched in ireland. during the first irish revolt. Fianna has nothing to do with it. also Fianna does not mean soldier. see my next comment for more information
@FinuteD1 Fianna also does not mean soldier, the fianna where small groups of mercenaries who where commissioned during times of war. they lived apart from society. during peace times they filled the role of bandits who preyed on travelers. ermm booyaa? i have proved you completely wrong, yet again.
@paulgrills2 you absolute muppet !!!! and why were they called fianna ??? cos they were soldiers you complete retard hahaha oh my god you cant be for real here, i have already told you, the irish fuckin anthem starts ''sinne FIANNA fail'' which means SOLDIERS are we jesus christ like haha, and it was anglicised, fiann meanin soldier, changed to fen with ian added like, roman'ian, alban'ian etc etc, your stupidity is gone beyond a joke here, fianna dosnt mean soldiers HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@FinuteD1 no mercenaries/bandits. i have actually researched this to ensure that i wasnt wrong. i think you should probably do the same. because you will find that i am right and you are wrong. you are calling me stupid when all you are doing is giving me words. i am giving you where the words came from. where as you find 2 words that sound similar and then merge them. but unfortunately for you, you are wrong. i wont be argueing this point anymore. because i have said all that needs said on it.
@paulgrills2 HAHAHA i wudnt blame ya mate cos you really did embaras yourself this time but at least i got a good laugh out of it, the fianna your thinkin about was fionn mcumhaill's army, that is only legend ya eejit, like when fionn mccumhaill ripped a sod in ireland and threw it in the sea and it became the isle of man, those are legends you muppet, fiann today means soldier and fianna is the plural, i did irish in school for 13 years and you tried to contradict hahaha funny tho il giv u that
@FinuteD1 look i said i wouldnt reply to this, but you are still trying to argue that you are right. using fiction against fact. i suggest you have a look at these before argueing with me.
en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Fianna
en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Fenian
dictionary.reverso. net/english-definition/Fenian
frankly your school sucks, they dont seem to teach facts, where as i study history and politics very closely. i dont believe in opinions, only facts
@paulgrills2 you study history ?? haha you googled them ya eejit, iv just looked at them and they say exactly what iv been tryin to tell you, heres plain english because your embarasin yourself now, john o'mahony got the word fenian from the fianna who were a band of soldiers/warriors (from gaelic mythology) (it clearly states that on your wikipedia link) cant give it to you simpler than that if you were a native of this island you would no its language as i do,please look up irish anthem lyrics
@FinuteD1 they say what i have been saying also. the point is that there is a lot of conflicting information out there. however there is no record whatsoever of the transition from fianna to fenian, which is what im getting at. and i find it hilarious that u say im not a native of this land? clearly i am. although i am rightfully british, i was still born in ireland which makes me a native. and saying that i should know its language is ludicrous.
@paulgrills2 i never said you ''should'' no it haha the hun twists it again, i was plainly saying if you knew the irish language as i do (fluently) you would have known the word fianna meant soldiers but yet you tried to tell me different even tho its a language i speak and a subject where you were clueless haha i was actually feeling sorry for you when you were stumbling around
@FinuteD1 twisting it? i think not, you clearly stated "if you were a native of this island you would no its language as i do" i wasnt stumbling around. fianna may have came to mean soldier in the irish language, however i was merely saying that where it came from was the whoe mercenary thing. as i clearly showed you in the wiki link. so to say i was clueless is wrong. i looked up the history to check my facts and found it to be correct. ORIGINALLY fianna did not mean soldier.
@paulgrills2 oh now its fianna didnt ''originally mean soldier thats funny cos heres a quote from you from two days ago ''Fianna also DOES NOT mean soldier'' (note does not in capitals and not did not originally) another oute from two days ago ''it DOES NOT mean soldier'' again you said it dosnt mean soldier and not it wasnt originally used for soldier there are more quotes from you clearly statin it does not mean soldier but you can find them yourself, EMBARASSING !
@FinuteD1 i do not speak gaelic. however i just looked it up. i found that the word for solider is Laoch or gaiscíoch or shaighdiúir. i can not find a definition for fianna outside of the term "fianna fail", i also looked it up and found that a lot of gaelic translation is based on context. so i put it to you now, give me evidence of the definition of fianna outside of the term fianna fail. translate.google.com /?hl=en#ga|en|fianna
@paulgrills2 google translate now haha,wikipedia and google aswel jesus you really had to pull out all the stops to try beat me, i never once used de net for my knowledge except to look at your links,now this im only gona say once to save you from havin a repeat of your last embarassin episode, fianna does mean soldiers absolutely no doubt, however it was adopted from myth from fionn mccumhaills army ''na fianna'', fianna is also used for ''volunteer'' and theres a gaa club called na fianna.more
@paulgrills2 na fianna is also the name of a well known band in ireland, it can have several meanings but its primary meaning is soldier simple as that, and the funny thing is you potrayed fionn's army as ''historical fact'' when throughout ireland we no all about fionn mccumhaills myths we learn them in primary school as childrens stories hahahaha and now your trying to give me a lesson on MY language you are failing miserably here friend, your makin yourself look bafoonish, funny tho :)
@FinuteD1 at no point did i ever mention them 2 names, i mentioned the founder of the FB. so you are blatantly lying now. furthermore you refuse to give me evidence? IS THAT BECAUSE YOU CANT? i showed you a translation for fianna to mean deer from a trusted website. i also did use facts to show what the fianna originally where and from the first usage of the word fenian. failing miserably? i give evidence of my claims and yet you provide none? yet u believe that you are right?
@paulgrills2 i just told you theres a band called na fianna and a gaa club called na fianna meaning irish warriors you hardly think they called themselves ''deer'' also we theres a political party named fianna fail also not meaning ''deer'' hahaha when the subject of ''fianna'' came up you tried to say they were a band of mercenaries and lived apart from society bla bla potraying it as fact when it is complete myth,i urge you to stop cos your just digging a hole thats leading to more embarasment
@FinuteD1 that is not myth, that is fact. you can not argue with that, saying it is a myth is a lie. and all you have to do to prove me wrong is to show me a NON CONTEXTUAL definition of the word from a trusted source, but you wont, who knows why, using internet for information does not weaken an argument as you seem to think, i only do it to ensure that i am correct before i say something.
@paulgrills2 so now your telling me fion mccumhaill was real BAHAHAHAHAHA, maybe you should check whatever site you got that off and maybe read it fully or somethin cos i clearly cant get it into your head, ''sinne fianna fail'' soldiers are we, and the name of our national anthem is amhran na BHFIANN, ''a soldiers song'' not a fuckin deers song hahaha what more proof do you need you moron
@FinuteD1 i never said that, i said that the name fianna came from non commissioned mercenaries and i never once mentioned his name. maybe you should learn to read. because these mercenaries where NON COMMISSIONED they can not be defined as soldiers. i literally can not be bothered with this argument anymore. all you have done is argue something and when i eventually prove you wrong u change the subject and argue that. the argument started about the national anthem
@paulgrills2 no you did not mention fionn mccumhaill's name because you were clueless to the fact that na fianna were his soldiers FROM MYTH hahaha i wudnt blame you not wanting to be bothered cos you have made an ass out of yourself
As a Gaelic speaker myself, I find your ignorance to be rather stupid about this issue. There is no point in heightening the observation that the word fianna does mean warrior, but the term "warrior" being branded as the same literal meaning to the word "fenian" makes little to no sense. You, are simply exaggerating a little point in order to try and make a convincing argument, which in actual fact, is entirely non-convincing.
@SuperKingster09 fenian is an unofficialy anglicised version of the gaelic word fianna by john o'mahony, the fella im arguing this point with has been trying to tell me that the word fianna does not mean soldier AT ALL, maybe you should have read the hole argument before you butted in with your pointless comment
@FinuteD1 haha someone proves you wrong and you shrug it off as "pointless" hahaha john o'mohony can not anglicize a word, because he was from ireland. that is a plain fact, therefore fenian is not an anglicized version of any word, because he was the first to use it. and i clearly mentioned that fianna meant mercenary etc. in its original meaning. yet you still fil to prove otherwise
@FinuteD1 So wait a second... You're saying that an Irishman, anglicized an Irish word? Do you realize how stupid that sounds? I have read the whole argument, it has given me much hilarious laughter and fun, due to the ignorance you are showing, and still continue to show. Ha!
@SuperKingster09 it may sound stupid to nyou because your clearly uneducated in the matter john o'mahony from limerick who was a fluent irish speaker was the first person to use the word ''fenian'' he got it from fionn mccumhaills army na fianna, so wait a second.... yes i am sayin an irishman anglicised an irish word
@paulgrills2 YOUR IRISH AND YOU KNOW YOU ARE!
WUDJABEABLE 2 weeks ago
@WUDJABEABLE as i have already said. I am most certainly not Irish. unless you call all Canadians American? just because its the same landmass doesn't mean Ireland's all one nationality. Frankly thats ludocris thinking.
paulgrills2 2 weeks ago
@paulgrills2 Yes it does
mdog929 2 days ago
@mdog929 yes what does?
paulgrills2 17 hours ago
You were born on the island of Ireland which makes you Irish, doesn't matter if it's ruled by the brits, Its still Ireland.
WUDJABEABLE 1 month ago
@WUDJABEABLE thats incorrect. here are the facts. under the british immigration act in 1983, people born in northern ireland are classed as british. however they are also entitled to dual nationality and can therefore call themselves irish and hold an irish passport. (in the context of nationality). the statute of westminster also says pretty much the same thing.
paulgrills2 1 month ago
why when a video of n.i fans or the teams achievements is posted does every bitter gobshite feel he has the right to offer a political opinion about the rights and wrongs of the brits,prods,huns,the easter rising and the potato famine ? get the chip of your shoulder and move on, we are not the ones on here trying really hard to mask our secterian views with some sort of political/social commentary p.s. irish and proud &british and proud
1882mick 1 month ago
@1882mick i agree. its a crying shame that i end up having to defend myself for uploading this video. i was going to disable the comments but it would seem like accepting defeat lol.
paulgrills2 1 month ago
Wow, I assume 49 ROIrishmen disliked this video... What a disrespectful gesture.
RoyalBluesProduction 1 month ago
@RoyalBluesProduction make that 53 you filthy queen loving troglodyte.
TheGoc5 1 month ago
@TheGoc5 i think you undermined yourself by writing that. all you have done is proven @RoyalBluesProduction right. You are a sectarian piece of shit. Now fuck off, go watch some videos you will actually like, rather than come onto a video you know you r gonna hate and be a dick on it.
paulgrills2 1 month ago
And Northern supporters complain about Northern Catholics declaring for the Republic?!?!?
BruceRobboFanClub 1 month ago
@BruceRobboFanClub i don't see your point, we are singing the teams official national anthem, before an international game. just as we do at every single NI match.
paulgrills2 1 month ago
@paulgrills2: Your not seeing the point sums up the problem. I agree that GSTQ is the British anthem but that didn't stop Scotland and Wales adopting indigenous songs as sporting anthems - they still use GSTQ is every other context. Let's call a spade a spade; a huge number of NI fans don't really want Catholics playing in the bigoted cesspit that is Windsor Park, especially if they play for Celtic (look at the treatment dished out to Lennon, McGinn and even Anton Rogan 20 years ago).
BruceRobboFanClub 1 month ago
@BruceRobboFanClub Well NI is doing just that. Gary Lightbody has pledged to write a new anthem. and your comment about NI fans not wanting catholics playing for us is completely idiotic. Some of our best players are catholics, Sammy Clinghan, Niall McGinn and Pat McCourt for example. NI fans actually give more respect to catholic/nationalists who join the squad because many tend to play for the republic, simply because they are nationalist. ***see next comment***
paulgrills2 1 month ago
@BruceRobboFanClub *Continued* You will actually find that it is generally the other way round. many (NOT ALL) nationalists do not want to play for NI. They wrongly percieve us as sectarian. NI fans want every player from Northern Ireland to want to play for us. rather than leave us to play for ROI like D Gibson and M Wilson. We have actually won awards for our attempts to stamp out sectarianism. There will always be a minority who try to ruin that but you see the same sort of fans for ROI.
paulgrills2 1 month ago
@paulgrills2: My comment is about as idiotic as the parcel bomb sent to McGinn last year. I'm delighted to hear Lightbody is writing an anthem and I would love to believe that it's only minority in Windsor Park that are sectarian but I just don't buy that. And for what it's worth I agree that NI born players should play for NI but then I can hardly blame them for not wanting to play, given the circumstances.
BruceRobboFanClub 1 month ago
@BruceRobboFanClub you are simply wrong. the majority of people who support northern ireland are not sectarian. if they where they would not celebrate our good catholic players. as I said the fans have won awards for trying to stamp out sectarianism. and for a while where regarded as the best fans in europe.
paulgrills2 1 month ago
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BruceRobboFanClub 1 month ago
Northern Ireland doesn't have an anthem. God save the queen is the british anthem but like the english the north doesn't have an anthem. It's not a state anyway so why should it. God save the queen should be banned in Ireland until they apologise.
jorgenpfhartogs 2 months ago
@jorgenpfhartogs actually its the uk national anthem, not the british (there's a difference). the british have made mistakes in the past but they have nothing to apologize for, they have done their best to make up for past mistakes. besides, its a different government now than it was back then. our current govt has done nothing wrong. so they have nothing to apologize for. maybe sinn fein should be banned until its leaders apologize for the troubles and admit their wrong doings.
paulgrills2 2 months ago
DISLIKE THIS VIDEO if your ashamed of the Irish supporters who booed God Save The Queen....we live in a modern Ireland there is no room for this Republican bigotry
51wins 2 months ago 2
@51wins dont dislike it! its my national anthem and im proud of it!
paulgrills2 2 months ago
@51wins The queen would never do anything for you and she never has done. God will not save her as she poses as the head of the English church but shows no Christian ethics such as treating others as you would be treated. Do not idolise false gods like the queen. Do what you want, i just don't think it's worth your bother :)
ShRiNkInGMuShRoOmS 2 months ago
@ShRiNkInGMuShRoOmS
Your wrong...we don't idolise the Queen, she is our head of state just the same as Obama is the President of the USA people don't idolise him either. You can't compare the Queen to the Pope for example Roman Catholics call the hope "The Holy Father" his official title is "Christ On Earth".
51wins 2 months ago
@51wins: Well both the Queen and the Pope are heads of their own churches and states
kanenkitten 2 months ago
@kanenkitten
Yes but the Queens isn't the spiritual head of the Church, the Queen is just the symbolic over-seer of the church. For example the Queen doesn't actually take any decisions or make any rules of the church.
The Pope on the other hand is known and sees himself as the rightful head and heir to Christ on Earth. Pretty sicking.
51wins 2 months ago
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51wins 2 months ago
5-0. Enough Said.
EFCMcCarthyCFC 3 months ago
@EFCMcCarthyCFC i think you will find it was 3-0 in this match, so u should probably leave that comment on a NI vs ROI video. This one was against scotland. Still a poor result like. but nigel worthington has ruined our team.
paulgrills2 3 months ago
@paulgrills2
No Harm but you never really had a good team bar a few good results.
EFCMcCarthyCFC 3 months ago
animals... wouldnt even face the pitch when amhran na bfhiann was playing. you are a disgrace
weezerpleaser18 3 months ago
@weezerpleaser18 calm down, its football...god save the queen is regularly booed at games, and you dont see me complaining.
paulgrills2 3 months ago
@paulgrills2 neither anthem should be booed, I keep respect when god save the queen is played so why shouldnt amhran na bfhiann get respect? yes i am aware that it is football.
weezerpleaser18 3 months ago
@weezerpleaser18 it should, my video doesnt show it being played. so why are you bringing your grievances here? you also have to remember that outside football there are thousdands of things that the irish dont respect about northern ireland/uk and vice versa. its all a bit tit for tat really.
paulgrills2 3 months ago
@paulgrills2 but your saying if us republic fans went upto windsor park booing god save the queen we'd actually make it out alive? wouldnt appen tho because we have that respect you see.
weezerpleaser18 3 months ago
@paulgrills2 and i know it doesnt show it being played but i was there myself to see you's turning your back.
weezerpleaser18 3 months ago
@weezerpleaser18 well i for one, did not turn around. and i don't remember anyone else on my side doing it either. in fact come to think of it, i dont even remember them playing the irish national anthem, they werent even playing.
paulgrills2 3 months ago
@paulgrills2 clever for a nordie..
weezerpleaser18 3 months ago
@weezerpleaser18 you have confused me now. you r complaining about something that isnt shown in this video, that didnt even happen at the time this video was taken. i think its safe to assume that you r just trolling.
paulgrills2 3 months ago
@paulgrills2 no it happened went you's played us.
weezerpleaser18 3 months ago
@weezerpleaser18 then fuck off and complain on a video about that match! i wasnt even at the NI ROI match. in face there where very few NI fans. because there was a boycott of the match because the NI management took a bribe (supposedly) from the dublin bus company. so that you could only go to the match if u also travelled with that bus. u couldnt drive down yourself. it was complete bullshit and costed much more than any other bus tour company.
paulgrills2 3 months ago
god save the pope
pubkrocknroll 3 months ago
NI Anthem is a bigoted cunts anthem its britains anthem not northern ireland's
shughes375 3 months ago
@shughes375 it is britains anthem, but its the anthem that NI uses. if like i shall rename the video "NI singes the british national anthem in dublin?" however that seems a bit pedantic
paulgrills2 3 months ago
@paulgrills2 but its still britains anthem if i would call it Northern Ireland Sings "GOD SAVE THE QUEEN" in Dublin -(Aviva) and what i think is that there should be a 32 county team with a different flag so it doesn't offend anyone and anthem like rugby
shughes375 3 months ago
@shughes375 yes but i think that you will find that it was the republic who left the 32 county team originally
the ifa was set up in 1880, long before partition....i personally wouldnt have one, we r both 2 seperate countrys. and we should compete seperatly.
paulgrills2 3 months ago
@paulgrills2 yea but it would build relations between the two peoples
shughes375 3 months ago
@shughes375 it would, but thats not the point.
paulgrills2 3 months ago
@paulgrills2 Its for the nationalist community too
shughes375 3 months ago
@shughes375 it is, but the simple fact is, northern ireland is a country in its own right, so they have the right to a football team
paulgrills2 3 months ago
@paulgrills2 But you loyalists always do the same you ignore the Nationalists and then another war begins
shughes375 3 months ago
@shughes375 im sorry, but that works both ways. there is nothing about the NI football team that excludes nationalists. they exclude themselves, by refusing to support the team of the country they live in. even though some of our best players are strong nationalists. "theres only one sammy clingan, hes from the falls and hes got big balls"- one of the most sang songs at winsor park.
paulgrills2 3 months ago
hardly any crowd there, nobody gives a shit about the NI team.
tarmonhill 3 months ago
@tarmonhill it was in the republic, against scotland. obviously there wasnt going to be a big crowd there. you r just adding comments to be a troll. please fuck off
paulgrills2 3 months ago
the same flag and same national anthem as england!
tarmonhill 3 months ago
@tarmonhill yea, obviously we have the same national anthem, its the national anthem of the UK, northern ireland doesnt have its own and neither does england.
as for the flag, thats idiotic, its very different. its based on the coat of arms of the governor of northern ireland, which was in turn based on the ulster provence flag.
paulgrills2 3 months ago
@Flamorgan finally someone who knows their facts! and agrees with me! lol
paulgrills2 3 months ago
the queen wouldn't piss on ye lot.
chimpanzeethat1 4 months ago
@chimpanzeethat1 fuck u
paulgrills2 4 months ago
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chimpanzeethat1 4 months ago
If there's a match N.Ireland vs England they play it twice??
vastasio 4 months ago
@vastasio I cant remember what we did last time actually, i would assume that we just play it the once. unfortunately neither england or NI do not have unofficial anthems to fall back on so it would be a bit odd if they played it twice through.
paulgrills2 4 months ago
I don't know why England and Northern Ireland ssing the British anthem
can't they sing their own?
Scotland and Wales sing their own and i've heard a lot of Scottish and Wales say they don't want to be part of the UK.
I hate the UK the only country that has got out of the UK is Southern Ireland in 1921
I think Scotland and Wales should be nations of their own and Northern Ireland should be part of England
Britain is a waste of space
Footbalcrazychocomad 5 months ago 2
@Footbalcrazychocomad firstly it is the anthem of the UK, england doesnt have their own anthem and neither does NI. as we are part of the UK we sing its national anthem. the anthems of wales and scotland are unofficial. at scottish parliment they sing the uk anthem because its still their official anthem. secondly the UK didnt exist until 1921 ROI left the british empire as lot of other countries left at the same time under the statute of westminster. see next.....>>>
paulgrills2 5 months ago
@Footbalcrazychocomad >continued. finally, saying that britain is a waste of space is ridiculous. we gave the world a lot more good than bad. without us ireland wouldnt have had an industrial revouloution. we bailed ROI out of 2 credit crisis in the past 70 years. britain made ireland one united island in the 1500s (henry 8th) before it still wasnt even a feudal clan system. of course there are many mistakes that britain has made but there are many more things we have done that are good.
paulgrills2 5 months ago
@paulgrills2 The UK was bailed out twice in the 70s. Just sayin'.
Skyifictionable 4 months ago
Why are they singing the English national anthem??? :o do the northern Irish not have their own one? Lol
davey32 5 months ago
@davey32 it isnt the english national anthem. england doesnt have an anthem. god save the queen is the anthem of the UK. scotland and wales use their respective anthems in place of GSTQ however they are unofficial. at all parliment meetings in scotland and wales and all official events the UK national anthem is used.
paulgrills2 5 months ago
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adambelfast1 4 months ago
ohh ahhh up the R.A.!!!
adambyrne95 5 months ago
Where's your fuckin' pub team now ye shower...
andytownman1916 5 months ago
@andytownman1916 admittedly we have been playing horrifically lately. however a lot has to be down to our joke of a manager. once he is out i hope to see us get a lot better
paulgrills2 5 months ago
I dont think you know what the real anything is! Your view of the world is not only distorted and bigotted.....it's moronic.....but talk away....you're just embarrassing yourself!
Ballysillanone 7 months ago
@Ballysillanone was this to me or to finuteD1?
paulgrills2 7 months ago
@paulgrills2 LOL Oh it's definitely him! He's a born again idiot!
Ballysillanone 7 months ago
@Ballysillanone agreed. he makes shit up, then i give him historical facts and he tells me that im "twisting it" and being a "typical hun" and then claims that he isnt bigoted. haha
paulgrills2 7 months ago
@Ballysillanone you had'nt the guts to reply to my last 2 comments, i think your the idiot my friend and so is your little boyfriend there hahaha
FinuteD1 7 months ago
@FinuteD1 im the idiot yet you havent managed to prove me wrong about anything yet hahahaha
paulgrills2 7 months ago
@Ballysillanone embarrassed ?? you didnt reply to my last comment cos you wer bein embarrassed, your debating is like your football team EMBARRASSING !!!!
FinuteD1 7 months ago
i dont hate british people i hate british people who think british rule should remain in ireland, i never once said i hate all brits, and from de outset i only used history to prove englands atrocities, again de hun tries to twist it to suit himself
FinuteD1 8 months ago
@FinuteD1 you have been incredibly bigoted the entire time you have been argueing, and stating history incorrectly just to suit yourself. i have never once twisted any facts in this argument and have been as un biased as i can be. admitting britains mistakes. however you havent once said that ireland has made mistakes or ever admited when you are wrong. you simply go off on a tangent.
paulgrills2 8 months ago
NO SURRENDER ! GAWA
knoble430 8 months ago
and ders shamrocks on the NI crest aswel i believe,the irish colours and the irish emblem yet u claim to be british confused.com sort urselves out
FinuteD1 8 months ago
@FinuteD1 shamrocks and colours dont make us confused. they are just the colours and emblems of our team. shamrocks are used all over ireland not just the south. and countries all over the world use green. so how does that make us confused? would you be happier if we wore red white and blue with a picture of oliver cromwell on the back of the shirt? somehow i doubt it.
paulgrills2 8 months ago
@paulgrills2 yes they do, shamrock is de irish emblem ye claim to be british CONFUSED !!
FinuteD1 8 months ago
@FinuteD1 ireland is an island. which has 2 countries. the shamrock represents all of ireland, not just the republic. im afraid it seems to be you who is confused. and its not a claim to be british. its a fact that residents of NI are british unless they actively claim irish nationality. according to the good friday agreement and the british immigration act
paulgrills2 8 months ago
@paulgrills2 exactly, confused, your defeating your own argument, your sayin your irish but your british at de same time, and yes de shamrock does represent all of ireland i.e de irish people in ireland, not ye ! ye are not irish and never will be, ye are a disgrace to ireland
FinuteD1 8 months ago
@FinuteD1 ur an idiot! i didnt say that we r both irish and british. we r one or the other. if i had my way we would all be british(in NI). and the shamrock represents all ireland, ireland the island. not just the irish people. it represents the whole of the island, regardless of nationality. and all i did is strengthen my argument. the only problem is that you are an asshole and a complete idiot.
paulgrills2 8 months ago
@paulgrills2 if you want to be british go to britain, again you say we use de shamrock because its an emblem for ireland but if we had our way wed be british ur confused mate ur people are confused, what are ye gona do when ireland is united ? are ye gona go home or are ye gona stay here confused or what ? why would you want to use an irish emblem if you wnat to be british so bad, CONFUSED !!!!
FinuteD1 8 months ago
@FinuteD1 for the last time its an emblem of all ireland. ireland has 2 countries, ROI and NI, NI is british(fact). just because the nationality is british doesnt mean that they cant use the symbol of an island that bares no meaning whatsoever to that islands split nationalities. u seem to thinnk that the shamrock is connected to nationalities but it is not. ireland will not be united in the near future. and if it was i certainly would not leave, NI is my home regardless of who rules it.
paulgrills2 8 months ago
@paulgrills2 oh my god are you fuckin stupid ?? are you really that fuckin retarded ?? the shamrock is an IRISH fuckin emblem yes its for the whole island, its for everyone on the island whos fuckin irish !!! you are not fuckin irish !! you fuckin retard iv had to explain everything in plain english for you. your startin to bore me now,with your unbelievable uneducated comments, heres plain english for you !! THE SHAMROCK IS AN IRISH SYMBOL FOR IRISH PEOPLE YOU ARE NOT IRISH !!!
FinuteD1 8 months ago
@FinuteD1 and yet again you are incapable of reading my comment. the symbol of a country is not the same as the symbol of a nation. if that was the case the shamrock would only represent ROI. whereas the shamrock represents all of ireland. ireland HAS 2 NATIONALITIES THEREFORE IT REPRESENTS BOTH OF THEM!!! it does not only represent irish people, it represents everyone in ireland WHETHER THEY ARE IRISH OR BRITISH. the shamrock was still the symbol or ireland when ireland was under british rule.
paulgrills2 8 months ago
@paulgrills2 THE FUCKIN SHAMROCK REPRESENTS IRISH PEOPLE !!! YOU ARE NOT FUCKING IRISH !!!!!!!!!!!!!! simple as fuckin that how fukn stupid are you
FinuteD1 8 months ago
@FinuteD1 yet again you fail to read my comments. the shamrock does not represent irish people because it became a trademark or ireland when ireland was under british rule. i can not make this any clearer. and besides the IFA was established before partition and represented all of ireland, so it only makes sense that they had a shamrock in their colours. what you tend to do is to repeat the same thing over again even though i give clear evidence to show the contrary.
paulgrills2 7 months ago
@paulgrills2 the shamrocks irish your not simple as, ye use it just so ye can have some kind of attachment or claim to ireland, fact of the matter is use it all ye want cos everyone knows who the real ireland is
FinuteD1 7 months ago
@FinuteD1 i fund this hilarious because all you have been doing recently is claiming that NI is part of ireland and that its people are irish. and that ireland is going to be united. and now u say that people know who the real ireland is. so now u want segregation? you sir are a retard. and i actually find it funny argueing with you, because it is so easy to win against u.
paulgrills2 7 months ago
@paulgrills2 yes as in de real ireland is everyone on the island exept the english wannabes duh !i alredy explaind to you how 'roi' is only our official name but the irish team represents every1 on de island exept the ones who think ther english i.e THE REAL IRELAND which includes the whole island and everyone on it who believes in freedom,wich automatically excludes your confused crowd,what are you winnin mate ?? no huns will ever beat any of us in anything !! 5-0 to the REAL IRELAND proves dat
FinuteD1 7 months ago
@FinuteD1 im winning this argument. haha everything u say i beat and then u change the subject. idiot. and that is the most bigoted and wrong remark i have ever heard. ROI is only an official name? and they represent all of ireland? NO...the irish cricket rugby and athletics teams represent all of ireland but the football team most certainly does not, that is a statement of fact and you can not argue with that.
paulgrills2 7 months ago
@paulgrills2 darron gibbson, daryl murphy etc etc they play for us cos we represent irish people and ireland, look at all our jerseys and crests none of them ever had roi written on them even our current crest simply says ireland, on yours it only says northern ireland, ours says IRELAND cos we represent IRELAND cant put that in plainer english for you, and im failin to see what your ''winning'' iv clearly showed britains atrocities have been far worse throughout history
FinuteD1 7 months ago
@FinuteD1 darron gibson etc play for ireland because they are nationalist, and have dual citizenship. the team represents ROI have you ever watched a match? in the top left of the screen it always says ROI. u might think they represent ireland but not according to fifa. and what fifa says in football goes. im winning because you are living in the past. and then u use "facts" against me and then i prove that you are wrong. thats how im winning
paulgrills2 7 months ago
@paulgrills2 exactly according to fifa its our official name u really are retarded, the only place you ever saw ROI is on english or british TV u will never see it on irish tv, u will never here a player, manager, or irish commentator say it we always call it ireland because thats who we represent IRELAND and the IRISH people ye only represent unionist NI a ''country'' nationalists dont even recognise, stop making me repeat myself try get all this info into your thick HUN skull, I WIN !! :)
FinuteD1 7 months ago
@FinuteD1 HAHAHAh u win? u dont recognize a country that has existed for the last hundred years, that makes you a bigot. not only that it makes u an idiot. you are living in the past. try to move on with your opinions, your current opinions are based on things that happened a long time ago. under a different government and by different people. yet you somehow seem to feel that the current british people should still be held accountable? thats retarded.
paulgrills2 7 months ago
@paulgrills2 ''country'' hahahahaha, british anthem and irish emblems yeah some ''country'' kid, if ye are a country why dont ye have a national anthem like every other country in the world, and again the hun twists it, when did i say british people should be held accountable ?? never said it typical hun twisting it, its not a country btw mate its a foreign occupation of PART of a country, as in england is FOREIGN their queen is FOREIGN that makes it a foreign occupation simples ;)
FinuteD1 7 months ago
@FinuteD1 i find it hilarous when people call it occupation. because it isnt FACT. NI is british FACT england is british and so is the queen FACT therefore the queen and england are not foreign FACT. scotland and wales do not have their own OFFICIAL national anthems FACT.
paulgrills2 7 months ago
@paulgrills2 haha yes they do, flower of scotland and wales Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau, and you didnt seem to pressed to reply to my other comment, the one where i said i seen some comments to other people on other videos passing remarks like ''fenian bastard'' which proves your the bigot, then again the orange order do have strong links with the KKK so i suppose racism and bigotry is in your blood, I UNDISPUTEDLY WIN, you racist sectarian bigoted scumbag
FinuteD1 7 months ago
@FinuteD1 i did reply to it. i have never once been racist on this nor have i been sectarian. however you wont believe the shared computer thing (understandable) so thats why i actually apologized. and as i already said they do not have OFFICIAL anthems. because land of our fathers and flower of scotland are not official. trust me, i want NI to have an anthem of their own simply to stop sectarianism. however i personally like GSTQ. and im not in the orange order so that remark is irrelevant.
paulgrills2 7 months ago
@paulgrills2 course you like GSTQ your a bigot, im sorry iv won this one and furthermore i do not debate with low life sectarians, and whats the difference between sectarianism and racism ?? its both hatred of a people, good day to you bigot ;)
FinuteD1 7 months ago
@FinuteD1 there is a very clear difference between sectarianism and racism. and you are nothing but sectarian. u refer to me as a "filthy hun bastard" so i find it highly hypocritical for you to say that.
paulgrills2 7 months ago
@paulgrills2 ''hun'' makes no reference to religion or nationality, it means opresser like atilla and his huns and the nazis oh yeah and the british who were refered to in ireland durin the irish war of independence as ''brittanias huns'' nice try to twist it AGAIN but im afraid your the sectarian bigot you filthy HUN bastard
FinuteD1 7 months ago
@FinuteD1 the word bigot does not mean religion or nationality. and you are a bigot. everyhting you have said pointe towards it. you are stupid to think you arent. you have shown that you hate the british in your coments although you have not explicitly said it. but i cba re reading everything to find a quote. although the fact that you float around NI pages spouting your idiocracy tells me all i need to know
paulgrills2 7 months ago
@paulgrills2 keep tryin to twist it but it wont work, i specifically said i do NOT hate british people i said i hate people who oppose irish freedom, why would i hate brits ? 46 percent think there should be a united ireland 21 oppose it, its only natural to hate people who oppose freedom... like the nazis, the kkk and the orange order, the hun tries to twist once again but once again he fails miserably
FinuteD1 7 months ago
@FinuteD1 im literally not twisting anything. ur fool. i dont oppose irish freedom at all. the irish got their freedom. and NI got to stay with the union. how is that opposing freedom. so in that case im not a hun by your definition. fail miserable? hahahaha each point of this argument u chose and i won the majority of them hahaha
paulgrills2 7 months ago
@paulgrills2 so the nationalists in the north are free what a moron ! ireland will not be free til the 32 are united, you oppose that therefore you oppose freedom,if 46 percent of brits think ireland should be united can u imagine if the rest of the world were polled,id say close enough to 100 percent of the world think ireland should be united, ye are the only ones who oppose it, ye therefore oppose freedom, the only thing you have won my good man is which one of us is a bigot,congrats bigot :D
FinuteD1 7 months ago
@FinuteD1 irelend is currently free! to say otherwise is completely idiotic. you are a bigot, because u say that just because im british i oppose freedom? thats a pretty bigoted thing to say FACT. the majority of people in the north want to stay with the union FACT and thats the only thing that matters. just because france thinks that ireland should be united doesnt mean that it should happen. france isn't in NI. and ROI doesnt get a say either because they are not part of NI. read next comment
paulgrills2 7 months ago
@FinuteD1 if ever the majority of people in NI supported a united ireland I would still oppose it but i would not stop it. and quite frankly that means that i do not oppose freedom of any kind. all you have proven is that you are tremendously stupid
paulgrills2 7 months ago
@paulgrills2 are you still here bigot ? would you not run along and watch some neo nazi rangers vids, or the orange order and the kkk or somethin ? and if you oppose irish freedom then you oppose freedom simples ;)
FinuteD1 7 months ago
@FinuteD1 i do not oppose irish freedom, the irish are free, in fact it is awfully bigoted of you to say that the irish are not. also you do not recognize NI as a country, in fact you called it "a small part of ireland" "occupied by foreign forces", this makes you a bigot. so i find it highly hypocritical that you would call me one. and i will be here, this is my video. and btw I do win. the original argument was about the title of the video, and i was right about that, so unequivocally you lose
paulgrills2 7 months ago
@paulgrills2 yes it is a part of ireland thats occupied, and if im a bigot for thinkin that then so is the rest of the world, typical hun everybody else is wrong haha, the name of this island is ireland and a small part in the corner is occupied by britain (thats a different island altogether btw) and the irish are not free what about irish people in the 6 counties they are far from free, especially if theres nazi scum like you around
FinuteD1 7 months ago
@FinuteD1 no it is not occupied. it is goverened and owned, that is a fact and not an opinion. to call it occupied makes you a bigot. britain is not an island, is is a collection of islands. over a hundred in fact. and the irish are completely free. are they slaves? how are they not free? in NI they have the right to irish citizenship along with british. if they remain in NI they they have to conform to british law. it would be the same for british people living in spain. nazi scum? hahahahaha
paulgrills2 7 months ago
@paulgrills2 your tryin your best to switch your label of bigot to me hahahaha not gona happen bigot just let me remind you of your comment ''WEE FENIAN BASTARDS'' and obviously we are gona hav a different opinion regardin the 6 counties, ye say its not occupied the rest of the world does simples, i think you have enough of a brain to agree to disagree, i did point out to you b4 that even most brits think there should be a united ireland let alone the irish and the world
FinuteD1 7 months ago
@FinuteD1 its not an opinion. its a fact, NI is not occupied. we cannot agree to disagree because it is a fact. im not trying to shift any labels. all im saying is that no matter what you say, u have proved that you your self are a bigot. and i already pointed out to you the only people who should have an opinion on what NI should be are the people of NI, along with the british government and obviously the british government want/need to keep us. otherwise we would have been dissolved already.
paulgrills2 7 months ago
@paulgrills2 i proved im a bigot ?? hahaha again ill remind you ''fenian bastards'' you are the bigot, you dont even no what the word fenian means and your spouting it off like the ignorant bigot you are
FinuteD1 7 months ago
@FinuteD1 haha i already explained how you are a bigot, in more ways than one. and to paraphrase what you said in another video "ill say what i want, and no one will tell me otherwise"....however i did not say it, i already explained that i have a shared computer.
paulgrills2 7 months ago
@paulgrills2 the hun is avoidin questions again !!!
FinuteD1 7 months ago
@FinuteD1 i clearly did not avoid a question, if you actually read my reply you would see that i made your question irrelevant because the answer would entail repeating myself.
paulgrills2 7 months ago
@paulgrills2 what does fenian mean ?
FinuteD1 7 months ago
you see you did not ask that last time. most people tend to believe that fenian means irish warrior of the 3rd and 4th centuries. however the word did not actually emerge until the unsuccessful irish revolt of 1867, where the rebels refered to themselves as "the fenian brotherhood" over the years the FB and the IRB evolved into the IRA. so by using the word fenian i am not actually a bigot. to refer to a terrorist as a bastard is not bigoted at all.
paulgrills2 7 months ago
@paulgrills2 wrong again hun, fenian is the anglicised version of the gaelic (thats the native language of this island just so ya no) word fiann which means soldier, so by the huns callin us fenians there calling us soldiers or warriors haha sad cunts, just think bout that next tim your callin ''fenian bastards''
FinuteD1 7 months ago
@FinuteD1im not wrong, in fact you clearly conform to the people i was talking about who believe that it means warrior, i suggest that you look it up, because i am actually right here, the word fenian (not fiann) emerged in 1867. and i have explained why. however i did take the time to look up hun, hun is the only thing that i have been wrong about so far, and in actual fact so r u, hun refers to 2 things, nomadic people of mongolia, and people of german descent, not nazis or british (all facts)
paulgrills2 7 months ago
@paulgrills2 obviously hun isnt officially the name for brits hahaha, i said we adopted it in the irish war of independence after the germans were called it in the WW's, and the germans were called it after the mongolian emperors army attila and his huns, fenian means soldier accept it, look at our anthem ''sinne FIANNA fail'' (the first line), soldiers are we, simple as that
FinuteD1 7 months ago
@FinuteD1 im not going to accept something that isnt correct. it does not mean soldier. Fianna means soldier. fenian is not only a different word, but was created by Irish nationalists themselves as a name for themselves. (Fenian Brotherhood). this was the first time that the name fenian was ever used. fenian is not anglicised as you say. completely wrong. i am giving you facts and dates here. where as you are giving me hearsay and assumptions.
paulgrills2 7 months ago
@paulgrills2 wrong again fianna means soldiers, and yes it is anglicised ya numpty, it originated in america before the fenian brotherhood by an irish american named john o'mahony, he named the republican wing of his movement ''the fenians'' anglicised from fianna in irish which means soldiers boooooya haha did you think they just plucked the word fenian from the sky haha, you might be givin dates and facts but unfortunately they are wrong, i win again ;)
FinuteD1 7 months ago
@FinuteD1 im afraid you are wrong, still. i already know of this, however it was not anglicized at all the fenians and the FB are the same thing. in fact he founded the fenian brotherhood. the fenians was simply another name for them. it is not anglicized because he was irish. the FB was founded in USA however branched in ireland. during the first irish revolt. Fianna has nothing to do with it. also Fianna does not mean soldier. see my next comment for more information
paulgrills2 7 months ago
@FinuteD1 Fianna also does not mean soldier, the fianna where small groups of mercenaries who where commissioned during times of war. they lived apart from society. during peace times they filled the role of bandits who preyed on travelers. ermm booyaa? i have proved you completely wrong, yet again.
paulgrills2 7 months ago
@paulgrills2 you absolute muppet !!!! and why were they called fianna ??? cos they were soldiers you complete retard hahaha oh my god you cant be for real here, i have already told you, the irish fuckin anthem starts ''sinne FIANNA fail'' which means SOLDIERS are we jesus christ like haha, and it was anglicised, fiann meanin soldier, changed to fen with ian added like, roman'ian, alban'ian etc etc, your stupidity is gone beyond a joke here, fianna dosnt mean soldiers HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
FinuteD1 7 months ago
@FinuteD1 no mercenaries/bandits. i have actually researched this to ensure that i wasnt wrong. i think you should probably do the same. because you will find that i am right and you are wrong. you are calling me stupid when all you are doing is giving me words. i am giving you where the words came from. where as you find 2 words that sound similar and then merge them. but unfortunately for you, you are wrong. i wont be argueing this point anymore. because i have said all that needs said on it.
paulgrills2 7 months ago
@paulgrills2 HAHAHA i wudnt blame ya mate cos you really did embaras yourself this time but at least i got a good laugh out of it, the fianna your thinkin about was fionn mcumhaill's army, that is only legend ya eejit, like when fionn mccumhaill ripped a sod in ireland and threw it in the sea and it became the isle of man, those are legends you muppet, fiann today means soldier and fianna is the plural, i did irish in school for 13 years and you tried to contradict hahaha funny tho il giv u that
FinuteD1 7 months ago
@FinuteD1 look i said i wouldnt reply to this, but you are still trying to argue that you are right. using fiction against fact. i suggest you have a look at these before argueing with me.
en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Fianna
en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Fenian
dictionary.reverso. net/english-definition/Fenian
frankly your school sucks, they dont seem to teach facts, where as i study history and politics very closely. i dont believe in opinions, only facts
paulgrills2 7 months ago
@paulgrills2 you study history ?? haha you googled them ya eejit, iv just looked at them and they say exactly what iv been tryin to tell you, heres plain english because your embarasin yourself now, john o'mahony got the word fenian from the fianna who were a band of soldiers/warriors (from gaelic mythology) (it clearly states that on your wikipedia link) cant give it to you simpler than that if you were a native of this island you would no its language as i do,please look up irish anthem lyrics
FinuteD1 7 months ago
@FinuteD1 they say what i have been saying also. the point is that there is a lot of conflicting information out there. however there is no record whatsoever of the transition from fianna to fenian, which is what im getting at. and i find it hilarious that u say im not a native of this land? clearly i am. although i am rightfully british, i was still born in ireland which makes me a native. and saying that i should know its language is ludicrous.
paulgrills2 7 months ago
@paulgrills2 i never said you ''should'' no it haha the hun twists it again, i was plainly saying if you knew the irish language as i do (fluently) you would have known the word fianna meant soldiers but yet you tried to tell me different even tho its a language i speak and a subject where you were clueless haha i was actually feeling sorry for you when you were stumbling around
FinuteD1 7 months ago
@FinuteD1 twisting it? i think not, you clearly stated "if you were a native of this island you would no its language as i do" i wasnt stumbling around. fianna may have came to mean soldier in the irish language, however i was merely saying that where it came from was the whoe mercenary thing. as i clearly showed you in the wiki link. so to say i was clueless is wrong. i looked up the history to check my facts and found it to be correct. ORIGINALLY fianna did not mean soldier.
paulgrills2 7 months ago
@paulgrills2 oh now its fianna didnt ''originally mean soldier thats funny cos heres a quote from you from two days ago ''Fianna also DOES NOT mean soldier'' (note does not in capitals and not did not originally) another oute from two days ago ''it DOES NOT mean soldier'' again you said it dosnt mean soldier and not it wasnt originally used for soldier there are more quotes from you clearly statin it does not mean soldier but you can find them yourself, EMBARASSING !
FinuteD1 7 months ago
@FinuteD1 i do not speak gaelic. however i just looked it up. i found that the word for solider is Laoch or gaiscíoch or shaighdiúir. i can not find a definition for fianna outside of the term "fianna fail", i also looked it up and found that a lot of gaelic translation is based on context. so i put it to you now, give me evidence of the definition of fianna outside of the term fianna fail. translate.google.com /?hl=en#ga|en|fianna
paulgrills2 7 months ago
@paulgrills2 google translate now haha,wikipedia and google aswel jesus you really had to pull out all the stops to try beat me, i never once used de net for my knowledge except to look at your links,now this im only gona say once to save you from havin a repeat of your last embarassin episode, fianna does mean soldiers absolutely no doubt, however it was adopted from myth from fionn mccumhaills army ''na fianna'', fianna is also used for ''volunteer'' and theres a gaa club called na fianna.more
FinuteD1 7 months ago
@paulgrills2 na fianna is also the name of a well known band in ireland, it can have several meanings but its primary meaning is soldier simple as that, and the funny thing is you potrayed fionn's army as ''historical fact'' when throughout ireland we no all about fionn mccumhaills myths we learn them in primary school as childrens stories hahahaha and now your trying to give me a lesson on MY language you are failing miserably here friend, your makin yourself look bafoonish, funny tho :)
FinuteD1 7 months ago
@FinuteD1 at no point did i ever mention them 2 names, i mentioned the founder of the FB. so you are blatantly lying now. furthermore you refuse to give me evidence? IS THAT BECAUSE YOU CANT? i showed you a translation for fianna to mean deer from a trusted website. i also did use facts to show what the fianna originally where and from the first usage of the word fenian. failing miserably? i give evidence of my claims and yet you provide none? yet u believe that you are right?
paulgrills2 7 months ago
@paulgrills2 i just told you theres a band called na fianna and a gaa club called na fianna meaning irish warriors you hardly think they called themselves ''deer'' also we theres a political party named fianna fail also not meaning ''deer'' hahaha when the subject of ''fianna'' came up you tried to say they were a band of mercenaries and lived apart from society bla bla potraying it as fact when it is complete myth,i urge you to stop cos your just digging a hole thats leading to more embarasment
FinuteD1 7 months ago
@FinuteD1 that is not myth, that is fact. you can not argue with that, saying it is a myth is a lie. and all you have to do to prove me wrong is to show me a NON CONTEXTUAL definition of the word from a trusted source, but you wont, who knows why, using internet for information does not weaken an argument as you seem to think, i only do it to ensure that i am correct before i say something.
paulgrills2 7 months ago
@paulgrills2 so now your telling me fion mccumhaill was real BAHAHAHAHAHA, maybe you should check whatever site you got that off and maybe read it fully or somethin cos i clearly cant get it into your head, ''sinne fianna fail'' soldiers are we, and the name of our national anthem is amhran na BHFIANN, ''a soldiers song'' not a fuckin deers song hahaha what more proof do you need you moron
FinuteD1 7 months ago
@FinuteD1 i never said that, i said that the name fianna came from non commissioned mercenaries and i never once mentioned his name. maybe you should learn to read. because these mercenaries where NON COMMISSIONED they can not be defined as soldiers. i literally can not be bothered with this argument anymore. all you have done is argue something and when i eventually prove you wrong u change the subject and argue that. the argument started about the national anthem
paulgrills2 7 months ago
@paulgrills2 no you did not mention fionn mccumhaill's name because you were clueless to the fact that na fianna were his soldiers FROM MYTH hahaha i wudnt blame you not wanting to be bothered cos you have made an ass out of yourself
FinuteD1 7 months ago
@FinuteD1 Dia dhuit, Conás átá tú!
As a Gaelic speaker myself, I find your ignorance to be rather stupid about this issue. There is no point in heightening the observation that the word fianna does mean warrior, but the term "warrior" being branded as the same literal meaning to the word "fenian" makes little to no sense. You, are simply exaggerating a little point in order to try and make a convincing argument, which in actual fact, is entirely non-convincing.
SuperKingster09 7 months ago
@SuperKingster09 fenian is an unofficialy anglicised version of the gaelic word fianna by john o'mahony, the fella im arguing this point with has been trying to tell me that the word fianna does not mean soldier AT ALL, maybe you should have read the hole argument before you butted in with your pointless comment
FinuteD1 7 months ago
@FinuteD1 haha someone proves you wrong and you shrug it off as "pointless" hahaha john o'mohony can not anglicize a word, because he was from ireland. that is a plain fact, therefore fenian is not an anglicized version of any word, because he was the first to use it. and i clearly mentioned that fianna meant mercenary etc. in its original meaning. yet you still fil to prove otherwise
paulgrills2 7 months ago
@FinuteD1 So wait a second... You're saying that an Irishman, anglicized an Irish word? Do you realize how stupid that sounds? I have read the whole argument, it has given me much hilarious laughter and fun, due to the ignorance you are showing, and still continue to show. Ha!
SuperKingster09 7 months ago
@SuperKingster09 it may sound stupid to nyou because your clearly uneducated in the matter john o'mahony from limerick who was a fluent irish speaker was the first person to use the word ''fenian'' he got it from fionn mccumhaills army na fianna, so wait a second.... yes i am sayin an irishman anglicised an irish word
FinuteD1 7 months ago
@FinuteD1 an irish man can not anglicize a word.
paulgrills2 7 months ago
@paulgrills2 you are a complete moron, i said he unoficially anglicised it, the level of your uneducation dumbfounds me
FinuteD1 7 months ago
@FinuteD1 ok, if that is the case, give me evidence of this? i would be willing to bet that you will not find it on any reputable website.
paulgrills2 7 months ago
@paulgrills2 go back to your little friend wikipedia there im sure he'll fill you in
FinuteD1 7 months ago
@FinuteD1 so i will assume that you can not back up your claims.
paulgrills2 7 months ago