Their focused on glory clouds,gold dust,angel feathers and unbiblical rituals. None of these are christ centered, but more centered on experience and feelings for that person. Doctrine is what needs to be focused on and centered on christ. Not signs and wonders or hypnotic music and fire tunnels. We are to test every spirit. Read these verses and read Hank hannegraff and john MacArthur on these matters. Colossians 2:18-23+2 thess 2:9+ Matthew 24:24 + mark 13:22+1timothy 3:16-17+2 Peter 1:17-21
How do you know if your not taking this Scripture out of context? Wasn't Paul anointed? Yet the bereans questioned his teachings and were called noble for doing so weren't they? Or,Proverbs states that a wise person will look at both sides of an issue before they make a judgement.
The stuff professed at bethel is just fruit of a false teacher and the repetitive music and sermons of health and wealth and prosperity keeps these people(sheep) stupidly contented. Will fit rest of comment on......
Psalm 105:15, read it. Be very careful friend. Plus, if you ever went and listened to him in person, you would not be able to disagree with anything he said, as he speaks the truth.
But people who aren't Christians can't understand these truths from God's Spirit. It all sounds foolish to them because only those who have the Spirit can understand what the Spirit means. 1 Corinthians 2:14 NLT
Actually, anyone and everyone can feel the presense of God. Read more of the bible. The roman even fell to the ground in his presense. Plus, remember we were not born christians. We were drawn by his presence, and scripture also says that God would prefer everyone saved. Go experience it in person before making judgements.
Love Jesus Culture and all their music. I think that Kim is a really God Blessed and God sent. I have witnessed in live from Australia where I live is Bill Johnson from Bethel Church and he is awsome in The Holy Spirit. Gods Work and Love is really show in The Bethel Church and The Jesus Culture with C3 Church witch is based in Sydney Australia and they are aligned with each other. GBU all true Christains... Love God always cos He loves you first.
@OhMyLantaCousins -- It is a youth conferance to give a basic description. A lot of awesome music, and some teaching. You also have the opportunity to go on a "treasure hunt", which is a form of witnessing / ministry. It is an awesome time. I have gone over 7 times, and plan to go again next time I am able. Go to the website and click on the conferances link. There should be one somewhere near you.
Entertaiment and "contemporary" Evangelicals and Bethlite type people, don't know that these kind of churches are supported by the Illuminati and Freemasons in order to dumb people down to true Christianity. They want to de-christianize you and make Christianity indistinguishable from the modern pagan world. I feel so sorry for the newer generation that is so nieve and deceived. Almost 90% of Evangelicals today do not hold to a Biblical worldview anymore because of churches like this.
You say you are Orthodox. I don't know what kind of Orthodox you claim to, but I do know that every Orthodox Christian I know is a strong believer that no one knows whom will be in Heaven. So I would think twice before you tell me my destiny. I have been to Bethel church and I have seen people totally devoted to learning God's word and desperately living by it as best they can, and not just 'on Sunday'. You claim things you know nothing about, no knowledge is obtained from sole opinion.
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The people at Bethel are worldly, materialistic and superficial. Modern Evangelicalism is marked by designer clothing and all forms of impiety. They live for themselves and are just looking for something to entertain them and make them feel good. They are not serious about God. The newer generation thinks this is normal and Christian because it's all they've ever known. They have no sense of history and authentic otherworldly Christianity.
You are welcome to your opinion. All I would say is that before you make a judgment about God's work somewhere, you should first go. Then, you would experience what God is doing. It would also be good for you to find out what Bethel is doing. Churches worldwide are aligned with Bethel and their movement on Earth. King Davids wife basically said the same thing you are about David when he danced wild before the Lord.
Bethel does not do God's work. You are so blinded and braiwashed. Every foul and discusting spirit and doctrine comes out of that Church. You have no spiritual discernment because all churches like this do is teach you how to be entertained and feel good.
117.. Just reading what you have to say makes it hard for me see from where you are coming from. There is so much love that comes out of Bethel type places and I am not seeing any love at all coming from what you are saying. God is love and that is where I want to live. In God's love. There is something to be said about sitting in a place with 4000 youth crying out for more and more of Him. It is not about feeling good or being entertained but about loving God with all that is in us
Love and tolerance at the expense of truth is common among false religions. These youth live for themselves and their own worldly desires. Pentecostals are a mile long but an inch deep. They have no real spiritual life. They limit the Christian life to worship, but know nothing about death to the world, flesh and devil. If they were serious, the would give their lives to God completely; not just on Sunday.
Im sorry, but then you do not know the people who are a part of Bethel. Who are at the church 7 days a week giving their all for what God has for them. And what they can do for their God. Does that mean that are perfect.. heck no. Who is? But their hearts are sold out to God. No man can possible judge that. That is between them and God. It makes me sad that you are so hardened to what God is doing in these people.
God created worship. Psalms is full of it. Full of instruments and singing, dancing and praise. To let go and just be free before The King. There is nothing like it. But to say that we limit ourselves to just worship is just not accurate. Living for God and doing all possible to be His in every way. That is a way of life for a lot of us. This youth are crying out for more of God in their lives. They want to live pure and holy for Him. And do what ever it is God calls them to do.
same thing goes to the baptists, presbyterian, episcopal, lutheran, methodist church, they do not die to the world and they are christians only on sunday. What you are implying is whatever your denomination you are in, the people there are living Biblical lives but in Pentecostal Churches, there are none. Open your eyes, there are always few thorns among ever patch of flowers, its up to God to pluck them out, not yours.
You can only be "dead to self" if the Spirit is alive in you!! Whenever God is the greatest desire of your heart, whenever he is your Joy and Delight.... the devil would be wasting his time trying to tempt you... cause nothing else satisfies..... Read "Desiring God" by John Piper.
I have never seen a generation that is so hungry for God. For all things God. For His love and His mercy. For the miracles that God has promised in His word. They cry out for all God has to offer. Are you saying these things because it is different than you have known in the past? I would hope that it is different. Because God is faced with a different generation of people. Do you listen to the words of these songs? Can you hear the desperation for more of God in them?
is that why bethel students read the whole bible nd go out on mission trips across the globe and live out the bible? nd they take jesus up nd glorify his name by doing wat we were called to do, and make disciples of all nations? gosh man, i have a friend that is sketched out but at least he looks within the bible 2 find truth, instead of asuming it all, im sorry, but the personal relationships that bethel students make with jesus are phenomenal they cant help but b in love with god
@Apologist117 what are you talking about? you went there once and think you know alla bout this church just for a few "shirts" you saw that were too modern?....please ..... dont' you see all these people worship and crazy about Jesus, what is important is THE FRUITS period, read the bible!
@Apologist117 Jesus said "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.', Love your neighbor as yourself." He also said : You shall not wear designer cloths, for God is not enough resourcefull to bless you with nice cloth and also bless the poor at the same time.
BTW Bethel is the must street going church i ever saw, they pray for the sick and prophesied to the people in the streets and they get heal and saved on the street.
@Apologist117 Ok. Describe what you think is the correct way for a Christian to live today? (No doubt that must be the way you are living if you feel you have the right to so casually condemn thousands of people at Bethel who you dont actually know.)
That was an amazing weekend. God showed up and did some awesome stuff. :D And that fog driving up was gorgeous. We saw some incredibly bright double rainbows. :)
Yes, I was at the convention center. I think I like how they did it last year better though. But regardless, it was awesome! I plan to be back in July, as well as attending in Laguna in June.!!
Nice! You should go to the video recording on Feb 20th. Then you may end up in their video. They start selling in July usually at that conferance. And, the July Redding conferance is 3 days, and even more awesome! If you can beleive that. They did not have any workshops this time. Usually they do.
do you have full video of any jake hamilton songs? you should upload those!! i was there at the church and he is awesome. ic ant wait for his cd but in the meantime if you could put up a video or 2 of his songs that would be awesome
O... I wish. Sorry, and I only had my small camera, so could only get small clips. Next time I'll have my cam corder so I get better footage. He sure can rock though!!
hey i was there but i was at the church it was the most amazing time of my life besides the fact that i lost my voice and my throat hurts like none other so i am not at school right now hahaha but it was an amazing trip.
No reply Malibu?
scannervirus388 1 month ago
Their focused on glory clouds,gold dust,angel feathers and unbiblical rituals. None of these are christ centered, but more centered on experience and feelings for that person. Doctrine is what needs to be focused on and centered on christ. Not signs and wonders or hypnotic music and fire tunnels. We are to test every spirit. Read these verses and read Hank hannegraff and john MacArthur on these matters. Colossians 2:18-23+2 thess 2:9+ Matthew 24:24 + mark 13:22+1timothy 3:16-17+2 Peter 1:17-21
scannervirus388 2 months ago
How do you know if your not taking this Scripture out of context? Wasn't Paul anointed? Yet the bereans questioned his teachings and were called noble for doing so weren't they? Or,Proverbs states that a wise person will look at both sides of an issue before they make a judgement.
The stuff professed at bethel is just fruit of a false teacher and the repetitive music and sermons of health and wealth and prosperity keeps these people(sheep) stupidly contented. Will fit rest of comment on......
scannervirus388 2 months ago
Bill johnson aka false teacher
scannervirus388 2 months ago
Psalm 105:15, read it. Be very careful friend. Plus, if you ever went and listened to him in person, you would not be able to disagree with anything he said, as he speaks the truth.
malibu3105 2 months ago
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LatinPrayers 2 months ago
So do Christian rock bands snort fake cocaine backstage? Powdered sugar?
bentopapa007 3 months ago
Kim Walker is the gal who thinks she can sing. I've got news for her.
bentopapa007 3 months ago
But people who aren't Christians can't understand these truths from God's Spirit. It all sounds foolish to them because only those who have the Spirit can understand what the Spirit means. 1 Corinthians 2:14 NLT
pkitting 4 months ago
Actually, anyone and everyone can feel the presense of God. Read more of the bible. The roman even fell to the ground in his presense. Plus, remember we were not born christians. We were drawn by his presence, and scripture also says that God would prefer everyone saved. Go experience it in person before making judgements.
malibu3105 4 months ago
I was there!
MusicIsMyLife3044 7 months ago
Love Jesus Culture and all their music. I think that Kim is a really God Blessed and God sent. I have witnessed in live from Australia where I live is Bill Johnson from Bethel Church and he is awsome in The Holy Spirit. Gods Work and Love is really show in The Bethel Church and The Jesus Culture with C3 Church witch is based in Sydney Australia and they are aligned with each other. GBU all true Christains... Love God always cos He loves you first.
useb7 9 months ago
what exactly are the jesus culture conferences, i went to the website but i am still confused, what do you do there?
OhMyLantaCousins 1 year ago
@OhMyLantaCousins -- It is a youth conferance to give a basic description. A lot of awesome music, and some teaching. You also have the opportunity to go on a "treasure hunt", which is a form of witnessing / ministry. It is an awesome time. I have gone over 7 times, and plan to go again next time I am able. Go to the website and click on the conferances link. There should be one somewhere near you.
God bless!
malibu3105 1 year ago
@malibu3105 thank you so much! :) God bless
OhMyLantaCousins 1 year ago
Entertaiment and "contemporary" Evangelicals and Bethlite type people, don't know that these kind of churches are supported by the Illuminati and Freemasons in order to dumb people down to true Christianity. They want to de-christianize you and make Christianity indistinguishable from the modern pagan world. I feel so sorry for the newer generation that is so nieve and deceived. Almost 90% of Evangelicals today do not hold to a Biblical worldview anymore because of churches like this.
Apologist117 2 years ago
You say you are Orthodox. I don't know what kind of Orthodox you claim to, but I do know that every Orthodox Christian I know is a strong believer that no one knows whom will be in Heaven. So I would think twice before you tell me my destiny. I have been to Bethel church and I have seen people totally devoted to learning God's word and desperately living by it as best they can, and not just 'on Sunday'. You claim things you know nothing about, no knowledge is obtained from sole opinion.
Breakoon 2 years ago
@Apologist117 What planet do you live on? I think I have just read a memo from hell itself. Be blessed, enemy of the Lord.
denoinwa 6 months ago
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The people at Bethel are worldly, materialistic and superficial. Modern Evangelicalism is marked by designer clothing and all forms of impiety. They live for themselves and are just looking for something to entertain them and make them feel good. They are not serious about God. The newer generation thinks this is normal and Christian because it's all they've ever known. They have no sense of history and authentic otherworldly Christianity.
Apologist117 2 years ago
You are welcome to your opinion. All I would say is that before you make a judgment about God's work somewhere, you should first go. Then, you would experience what God is doing. It would also be good for you to find out what Bethel is doing. Churches worldwide are aligned with Bethel and their movement on Earth. King Davids wife basically said the same thing you are about David when he danced wild before the Lord.
malibu3105 2 years ago 5
Bethel does not do God's work. You are so blinded and braiwashed. Every foul and discusting spirit and doctrine comes out of that Church. You have no spiritual discernment because all churches like this do is teach you how to be entertained and feel good.
Apologist117 2 years ago
117.. Just reading what you have to say makes it hard for me see from where you are coming from. There is so much love that comes out of Bethel type places and I am not seeing any love at all coming from what you are saying. God is love and that is where I want to live. In God's love. There is something to be said about sitting in a place with 4000 youth crying out for more and more of Him. It is not about feeling good or being entertained but about loving God with all that is in us
sheelagh72 2 years ago
Love and tolerance at the expense of truth is common among false religions. These youth live for themselves and their own worldly desires. Pentecostals are a mile long but an inch deep. They have no real spiritual life. They limit the Christian life to worship, but know nothing about death to the world, flesh and devil. If they were serious, the would give their lives to God completely; not just on Sunday.
Apologist117 2 years ago
Im sorry, but then you do not know the people who are a part of Bethel. Who are at the church 7 days a week giving their all for what God has for them. And what they can do for their God. Does that mean that are perfect.. heck no. Who is? But their hearts are sold out to God. No man can possible judge that. That is between them and God. It makes me sad that you are so hardened to what God is doing in these people.
sheelagh72 2 years ago
yea dude they are always busy, and its always doing something for god and if they arent busy, they r either studing or praying haha, so legit
bucketOgod 2 years ago
God created worship. Psalms is full of it. Full of instruments and singing, dancing and praise. To let go and just be free before The King. There is nothing like it. But to say that we limit ourselves to just worship is just not accurate. Living for God and doing all possible to be His in every way. That is a way of life for a lot of us. This youth are crying out for more of God in their lives. They want to live pure and holy for Him. And do what ever it is God calls them to do.
sheelagh72 2 years ago
same thing goes to the baptists, presbyterian, episcopal, lutheran, methodist church, they do not die to the world and they are christians only on sunday. What you are implying is whatever your denomination you are in, the people there are living Biblical lives but in Pentecostal Churches, there are none. Open your eyes, there are always few thorns among ever patch of flowers, its up to God to pluck them out, not yours.
blkedwashedazn 2 years ago
You can only be "dead to self" if the Spirit is alive in you!! Whenever God is the greatest desire of your heart, whenever he is your Joy and Delight.... the devil would be wasting his time trying to tempt you... cause nothing else satisfies..... Read "Desiring God" by John Piper.
markimark202 2 years ago
@malibu3105 AMEN
jmatassa 1 year ago
@malibu3105 what are you doing for the ministry of god, just curious?
figjeti 1 year ago
I have never seen a generation that is so hungry for God. For all things God. For His love and His mercy. For the miracles that God has promised in His word. They cry out for all God has to offer. Are you saying these things because it is different than you have known in the past? I would hope that it is different. Because God is faced with a different generation of people. Do you listen to the words of these songs? Can you hear the desperation for more of God in them?
sheelagh72 2 years ago
Bishop T.D. Jakes said at a conference this generation would be a generation of giant killers! bring on the giants baby!
flyawaysuperman 2 years ago
is that why bethel students read the whole bible nd go out on mission trips across the globe and live out the bible? nd they take jesus up nd glorify his name by doing wat we were called to do, and make disciples of all nations? gosh man, i have a friend that is sketched out but at least he looks within the bible 2 find truth, instead of asuming it all, im sorry, but the personal relationships that bethel students make with jesus are phenomenal they cant help but b in love with god
bucketOgod 2 years ago
@Apologist117 what are you talking about? you went there once and think you know alla bout this church just for a few "shirts" you saw that were too modern?....please ..... dont' you see all these people worship and crazy about Jesus, what is important is THE FRUITS period, read the bible!
giovy777 1 year ago
@Apologist117
You're really ignorant and judgmental.
illus1onz 1 year ago
@Apologist117 Jesus said "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.', Love your neighbor as yourself." He also said : You shall not wear designer cloths, for God is not enough resourcefull to bless you with nice cloth and also bless the poor at the same time.
BTW Bethel is the must street going church i ever saw, they pray for the sick and prophesied to the people in the streets and they get heal and saved on the street.
Peace7Maker 1 year ago
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@Apologist117 what are you doing for the minstry of god, just curious?
figjeti 1 year ago
@Apologist117 Ok. Describe what you think is the correct way for a Christian to live today? (No doubt that must be the way you are living if you feel you have the right to so casually condemn thousands of people at Bethel who you dont actually know.)
inderdaadherbst 10 months ago
I was there!!
SO good. God is SO good.
Breakoon 2 years ago
It was so awesome. I love those guys!!!
malibu3105 2 years ago
Agreed. I can't wait to go back.
MuzBozi 2 years ago
i was there and soooo loved it!!! cant wait to go again!!!!
ericdean4 2 years ago
Ya. I am going back for the July conf in Redding!! Can't wait.
malibu3105 2 years ago
Wasn't Jesus Culter just the best this year?! I loved it!
Seniorofdouble7 2 years ago
omg this was amazing!!! I went w/my youth group!! my first time to JC!
RockstarChick898 3 years ago
I have been to bethel's young adults programs many times over the past few years what is called now is it still on Monday nights?
musicgeek3 3 years ago
That was an amazing weekend. God showed up and did some awesome stuff. :D And that fog driving up was gorgeous. We saw some incredibly bright double rainbows. :)
Were you at the convention center?
DrownedCali 3 years ago
Yes, I was at the convention center. I think I like how they did it last year better though. But regardless, it was awesome! I plan to be back in July, as well as attending in Laguna in June.!!
malibu3105 3 years ago
you should go to school of ministry it is amazing :) i am a first year
bethelstudentca 3 years ago
Well maybe in the future. I would like to go. God will have to open the doors for it though.
malibu3105 3 years ago
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TASTE MUCH DE Kim Walker! ALREADY IT HEARD THE COMPACT DISC? I HAVE! ONE I HUG. BRAZILIAN FRIEND
vanderleics 3 years ago
TASTE MUCH DE Kim Walker! ALREADY IT HEARD THE COMPACT DISC? I HAVE! ONE I HUG. BRAZILIAN FRIEND
vanderleics 3 years ago
i know jake and the guys he brought up from socal. these guys are amazing and are always filled with Gods love.
NickIsPocahontas 3 years ago
OM Gosh!!!!!! it was the most amazing experience of my whole life this was my first time and i hope to go again =] Absoulutly amazing
likebabyfeet 3 years ago
Nice! You should go to the video recording on Feb 20th. Then you may end up in their video. They start selling in July usually at that conferance. And, the July Redding conferance is 3 days, and even more awesome! If you can beleive that. They did not have any workshops this time. Usually they do.
malibu3105 3 years ago
do you have full video of any jake hamilton songs? you should upload those!! i was there at the church and he is awesome. ic ant wait for his cd but in the meantime if you could put up a video or 2 of his songs that would be awesome
thelandofmatt 3 years ago
O... I wish. Sorry, and I only had my small camera, so could only get small clips. Next time I'll have my cam corder so I get better footage. He sure can rock though!!
malibu3105 3 years ago
Rad! missed this feb the conference but i bet it was awesome!.......
Dara560 3 years ago
It was. Maybe you can catch the July converance.
malibu3105 3 years ago
hey i was there but i was at the church it was the most amazing time of my life besides the fact that i lost my voice and my throat hurts like none other so i am not at school right now hahaha but it was an amazing trip.
kattlovesjoejonas 3 years ago
I was at the church too! The last night was amazing! <3
xHawkgirlx 3 years ago
haha yes it was amazing! i was praying over a ton of people the last night at the last part.. it was soo amazing!!!
kattlovesjoejonas 3 years ago
Ya. I am already wanting to go back!!
malibu3105 3 years ago
Awesome!
BunchOfGreatFriends 3 years ago
This was all done with my small camera or phone. I so need a new HD camcorder!
malibu3105 3 years ago