Derren Brown - The so called Messiah 5 of 8

[Voiderify]

Haha, hilarious, I always thought the hardest part of playing Derren's part is keeping a straight face and not burst laughing/crying in front of these people...

[architectus777]

I wish he would go into detail exactly how he was able to get her to reveal details about her dream like that. I know we aren't seeing the whole process either.

[damien323897]

Switching chairs was absolutely a way of taking control/ power and asserting dominance while putting her in an unfamiliar state opposite her own desk. Simple mind tricks to reorient her thinking patterns.

[OhRlyRly]

@wvguy8258 That would have been priceless.

[7j8i9m]

He switched chairs (to show he had power over her), told her some things she should have seen in her dreams (opening her to suggestion). and then told her she can comment (open to suggestion) but she should avoid asking questions (showing power). It is that simple.

[htomerif]

Anyone try to look up "Loraine Difelice"'s magazine? or her webpages? or anything at all about her aside from an obituary in 2009? Pretty strange that one of the top new age magazine and web site owners has utterly no information about her. I dont think Lorraine Difelice got pwned. I think the viewers did.

[satinpurplefender]

I love that these videos have church and psychic advertisements. lol

[XenovannHellwolf]

@Ariesxe Yeah, its bullshit and your an idiot. You dont need to be a psych major, just take the first class. If he was so powerful he and all psychologist/hypnotist would be ruling the world. Your gullibilitys outstanding.

[blackplatypus]

@XenovannHellwolf

Pretty sure you don't know how hypnosis works if you think that's remotely possible.

[XenovannHellwolf]

@blackplatypus Your comment was a waste of time reading so im returning the favor.

[Mixikyr]

He asked her to switch chairs to shift the feeling of authority toward him, lol.

[xrisku]

If she were to get information out of the "dream machine" she'd have to put the electrodes on her ass, because that is where her brain is located. bawhahahahahaha

[MagicMartin5]

@jshowa2 Yet youre still telling me that a priest was able to piece together a heart into the round piece of flesh we see instead of just grabbing some normal skin, that sounds to elaborate for a trickster. Youre also telling me that this flesh and blood this guy fooled the people into thinking was once bread and wine just happens to not decay without perservatives which is illogical and impossible according to what normally happens to flesh within a day or two

[MagicMartin5]

@jshowa2 Actually I am skeptical. I dont believe in all the speaking in tongues, being slain in the spirit crap, and I sure wouldnt believe a one touch conversion. I dont believe it. And im sorry about my bad wording, I should have said the proteins in the blood indicate it is fresh even though it shouldnt be fresh because it has been around for 1300 years without perservatives. Your right in that I only believe that it was once bread through faith that they didnt lie. Thats understandable.

[MagicMartin5]

@jshowa2 It has been around without perservatives meaning it should have decayed centuries ago. Yet it hasnt. The proteins within the blood indicate that it is still fresh even though it isnt fresh. It was created miraculously from bread and is miraculously preserved from decay. In other words bread doesnt turn into flesh and flesh shouldnt remain around without decay 1300 years. Most flesh begins to decay within days. That is why dead people are treated with chemicals to preserve their bodies

[MagicMartin5]

@jshowa2 Thank you for the lunatic remark too. Also the virgin birth means that Mary did not have sexual intercourse however this doesnt mean Jesus has to have X chromosome. It could but that isnt required. it is called a miracle for a reason I would find it more amazing if Jesus had normal male XY and came from a virgin birth but that wont sit well with you and you will call me a fool for believing this.

[MagicMartin5]

@jshowa2 Ok i understand your reasoning with the virgin birth but as I said the flesh has been around for 1300 years, no perservatives have been found, and it still scientifically registers as fresh. It is miraculous. And the whole congegration saw this transformation meaning someone would call this a fraud if one sunday he says he found this flesh and its Christ. Also how could a priest from the 700s create a round piece of flesh that is a whole heart that wont decompose?

[MagicMartin5]

@jshowa2 I believe because I know there is a God. I happen to believe that Christ is God because he was on this Earth, died and rose from the dead, etc. There is evidence. If you were to search you would find it. You can take miracles as an example such as the Eucharistic miracle at lanciano. The bread turned into flesh and the wine into blood. The flesh is human and still around. Scientists have tested it and have found no preservatives although it tests as fresh and has been around 1300 years

[MagicMartin5]

I love how he goes out to people who already believe outrageous things and then expects them to question him. He doesnt go to skeptical people he goes to the people who already believe in aliens, psychic powers, and in faith healing. Unfortunately, if this is an attack on Christianity, all he did was a hypnotism act which wasnt what Christ did and shouldnt shake peoples belief in God, but in the charlatans present within the evangelical movement

[magdalenaferu]

Yep black big men with fight dogs and big buildings against the sky.

If he goes to the desert tribes it would be about men with blue eyes and camels against the sand dunes.

About the chair- yes- he uses power play to assert control over the space. Having control over the space makes you in control over the person. It is basic for every social animals- alpha takes the higher ground,the sunniest spot etc.

[pran1zzle]

@magdalenaferu Awesome comment partner.

[JoesephKatana]

@wvguy8258 You mean he wasn't?

[choongd]

deluded lady got owned bad

[Dforeal1]

I dont think se bought it that much.

I just think he saw Derren as a moneyobject to cooperate with...

[MiNennuka]

this does not make any sense if he does not explain how he does it. When I see this I think that the two people are in agreement to do the trick

[MiNennuka]

So, if he does not have any powers how he explain to know the dream????????? I do know understand!

[bertjuhnl]

@MiNennuka Lol ur almost as retarted as all the others who believe. He doesn't know the dream, he makes up the dream for her. It's all about Psychology.

[bertjuhnl]

@MiNennuka Because he is the real deal. He is just pretending to be a fraud. Its a sham and it has been confirmed by different sources. Abooglywooglywoo

[Stairc]

Part of this is cold reading too I think.

[Rurne]

Gotta love cold reading.

[MajesticTOASTER]

"Binoculars?"

"YES!!!"

lololololol.

[GregTom2]

I don't think he made up the dreams, or not entirely, I think he just used cold reading instead

[LOLDISNEYLAND]

The best way to get rich fast is to take advantage of an endless market. This market has three attributes. Ignorance, Stupidity and Gullibility. This market would sell their organs to substantiate their ideas and beliefs that are based off of their parents beliefs or some leaders beliefs. It takes one leader to inject stupidity and deception into the masses and the masses self-perpetuate this deception and stupidity. Quite a lucrative market if you ask me.

[doctamic]

aliens are real, thats why people like bush exist

[doctamic]

you mean it doesnt work? dam no refund

[johntkooz]

I forget the source, but recently read about how a great large majority of "abductions" merely indicate an imaginative person's inability to cope with and accept experiencing sexual abuse (usually at a young age). Tragic, but makes sense.

[patchworkz7]

@johntkooz Most "abductions" are most like hypnogonic hallucinations...before UFO's became common in cultures these sorts of dreams would be blamed on succubi and inccubi. I wouldn't rule out trauma and disassociation from being a factor in some though.

[thespian83]

@patchworkz7 Correct. Sleep paralysis is also a common reason. The individual regains consciousness while the body remains asleep. It often leads to the individual panicking and flicking in and out of the conscious and unconscious states of mind (alpha, beta, and delta if I remember correctly). Happened to me once and I felt not only panicked but could feel a very 'demonic' energy in the room. However, upon waking and regaining my full consciousness I also regained my common sense.

[patchworkz7]

@thespian83 Yeah, I've suffered from hypnogonic hallucinations (false awakenings, feelings of someone in my room, waking but not being able to move, etc) since I was a kid. It's just a disruption of the normal sleep cycle (in my case I'm a medical worker and sleep odd hours, so that doesn't help), but in someone predisposed to believing crazy stuff they don't think "my brain made a bad connection for a few minutes" but "aliens came and got me"

[ryan84160]

@patchworkz7 I suffer from this also. The most frightening part for me is not being able to move. The hallucinations are bad enough, but the feel of trying so hard and not being able to move is the worst feeling in the world. I really have an appreciation for people that are actually paralyzed.

[Stephkk1478]

how come he hasn't explained how he's been doing any of the things he's been doing?

[xDarkBloodAngelx]

@Stephkk1478

He sometimes does explain his tricks, but not always. And I think thats good. It kinda takes the mystery, when you know exactly how he fooled you and it wouldn't be half as fun. you should just keep in mind, that there IS a trick behind it.

[YankHoe]

@Stephkk1478 I'm not sure, but I think he explains them in his books, just what I've heard from other magicians.

[Blackerer]

"i told lauraine that the box contains a special new age crap" :))

[wolfwing1]

The truth is he's real, he has all these powers he's just trying to destroy everyones belief in them so he can be rich later!!!!! ahem okay not really but bet some of the believers think this :>

[dustobusto]

Though I find it hard to believe that anyone could be so gullible, I can surely see her pretending "omg he is so good!" because there are cameras and she has to really peddle her own kind to stay in business...

[chazz30000]

I like the music(from 1:50 to 3:46) in this part. Does anyone now the title? Is it even a partical song?

[21stcenturyrocker]

eccentrically dressed...black man

[mitchellpark27]

@21stcenturyrocker with big dogs....snoop dogg?

[SamonMarquis]

He should use that Dream Catcher on teenage boys and see what images come up.

[allblue88]

@SamonMarquis whatever he choices ;)

[BassmrDK]

He's just cold reading her.

[tutsiwitchking]

Western, "Christian" people thrived by disassociating and rejecting their faith (Enlightenment, Scientific rev, etc) while Muslims thrived by embracing theirs (Golden Age of Islam, Library at Baghdad, etc).. As a recent convert to Islam this video has only increased my faith in Islam and decreased my faith in Christian Evangelicism.

[ihavevideoatoo]

dude if he could make her think she dreamed of anything just to have fun with her i woulve made her dream about eating her own shit or something lol make it funny

[PrideandPrejudicerai]

she didn't dream it.

she was convinced she dreamt this things after he told her, but she never saw them in her sleep.

[santajimi]

I gotta read Derren Brown´s incstructional books. If he can convince people into believing all these wacky things, surely It can help a guy get laid. :)

[GermanChocolateCake]

Basically modified cold reading.

[JacobDeadman]

darren brown is awsome. its good to seea gay man this succeseful.

[ShahnamPersia]

@JacobDeadman hahahah you're an idiot!

[penguinworm]

@JacobDeadman true.

[gb389]

there's ALSO the thing of

"hey, this guy's a professional with a crazy ass machine, if he says it happened, it must have happened" right?

[beanmagnet]

Omg... people are dumb... they believe whatever they see and whatever they want. Why do you think there have been so many successful con men? And religion, the biggest con of all.

[sensur1]

hahahahhaha, this works for her because SHE WANTS IT TO WORK! SHE WISHES IT!!!

[pallevader]

DREAAAAAAAAAAM..... CATCHER!!!!!!

Could not resist the urge to make a Gintama reference :(

[varfordogjesus]

I want that dreamcatcher LOL

[ocramjair]

me too

[TonyBtheEG]

Thanks for sharing.

[Ariesxe]

A common theme to any of Darren Brown's manipulation tricks that I notice is that early on he asks them to do something for him. Usually nothing big, just a simple task (for example asking to switch chairs with the woman in this clip) but I think that this is the moment where he asserts his mental authority over the person, possibly allowing him to influence their mind more easily.

Any psych majors have any ideas?

[TwistingWays]

I perfectly agree with you. It certainly anchors that he is the one in charge for this scenario. A similar technique is placing one's hand upon the other's shoulder to promote authority over them. I do this when I am giving someone a command.

[waterspindle]

@Ariesxe i'm not a psych major but observing or reading about how a text-book sociopath will work out a "con", we see this pattern, but several other factors are needed. Often, they include the promise of compensation or a rather high payback for participation. slight of hand, passing the cheese from person1 to con to person2....so many cons, so little time. =( it's a shame really. but this guy is really GOOD.

[ibreakkidslegs]

@Ariesxe the vast majority of the things he does and says play a crucial functional role in the psychological manipulation, so yes you have the right inkling there.

[CeboAmebo]

@Ariesxe

exaclty. nice noticing. ive noticed the same thing myself, he ALWAYS asks the person to do something "for him"... I guess thats the start...

[betlamed]

@Ariesxe Excellent observation there! It's a technique to elicit compliance. Covered in books on cold reading skills, as well as, I think, in Cialdini's "Psychology of Influence".

[m3rcyk1ller]

@Ariesxe yes, and it may be bigger than that, in her chair she has the control of the room, mood...by changing it he implies now I'm in charge using nlp

[BrizyComics]

@Ariesxe Yes, you are spot-on. It is a technique commonly used in hypnosis referred to as "building compliance". It prepares the subject to subconsciously accept commands or believe the ideas you present to him or her. It can be as simple as asking someone to hand you a piece of paper or moving their chair forward by two inches. That's all it takes.

[garrettducat]

You're all wrong. You are and can only be one of four things.

Agnostic Atheist - lack of belief and freely admits there is not sufficent evidence to prove any claims (most atheists).

Agnostic Theist - has a belief and freely admits there is not sufficent evidence to prove any claims.

Faithful Atheist - lack of belief and claims there is sufficent evidence to prove their claim.

Faithful Theist - has a belief and claims there is sufficent evidence to prove their claim (most theists).

[SadegoGG]

Whats wrong with being atheist and how can you associate a belief with it. Do you have a set of principles if you don't believe in Santa Clause. No, but you do have a set if principles if you do. Same goes with the tooth fairy, bigfoot, God, etc..

So quit giving atheists an adjective, believe what you want, but don't try to force it onto innocent people unless you urge them to challenge the beliefs and look at physical reasons to believe in God.

So perhaps you were wrong as well.

[garrettducat]

Its really quite simple. You either believe in something or you don't believe something, and you either believe there is absolute evidence for it or you don't believe there is absolute evidence for it.

You cannot not be agnostic and not be faithful at the same time. They are contradictories. Likewise, you cannot not be an atheist and not be a theist at the same time. Those too are contradictories.

[garrettducat]

You actually do have a set of principles for not believing in Santa Claus. You have rules for what suffices as proper evidence, and the evidence out there in support of Santa Claus fails to meet that criteria.

I don't really see what you're trying to argue against. I never said anything was wrong with being an atheist or a theist, nor did I say anything was wrong with being agnostic or faithful.

I am an atheist, but I recognize the (unlikely) possibility that a god could exist.

[SadegoGG]

Really?

So if your a democrat lets say, it means your a theist?

Since liberal economic policies do not compare to republican policies in an economical stand point, would that mean republicans are atheist and liberals are theist?

You are missing the big picture, people are forced to believe things that are untrue and they base there lives off of them, so as your basically saying, they don't have a set of principles (Those with religion forced on them) which cant be true.

[garrettducat]

What the fuck are you talking about? First off, democrats and republicans are not contradictories, they are contraries. You could be neither, but not both.

Furthermore, you could be a democrat and a theist or an atheist, or a republican and a theist or an atheist. You're trying to take what I said about the definitions of words and turn it into religious oppression. All I did was define a few terms.

[garrettducat]

I know the comments that you post make sense in your mind and you know exactly what you are talking about, but the rest of us don't. I have read your second paragraph at least five times and it still makes no sense.

If necessary, you can elaborate and perhaps post a second comment to finish your thought.

[garrettducat]

Individuals have sets of rules/principles/whatever for ALL claims, regardless of the actual truth of the claim. Every reasonable person will admit that its possible that god exists and its possible that god doesn't exist. We then use our personal rules to decide whether or not we BELIEVE god exists. We do this by looking at the evidence and decide if that evidence is convincing enough. This applies for gods, myths, Santa, your computer, everything.

[TwistingWays]

That makes you agnostic, I thought...

[garrettducat]

Read my original comment. I don't know exactly what you are referring to, but its impossible to JUST be an agnostic. You have to either believe or not believe as well.

[guysmiley00]

@garrettducat I'm really not sure what you're trying to say here. It seems you're attempting to place people into categories that don't really fit. Telling people that they can't possibly believe what they've just told you they believe is childish and silly. It is possible for someone to believe that there is both the possibility of a God existing and not existing, and that there isn't sufficient evidence for either proposition, or that the very question defies the possibility of proof.

[garrettducat]

@guysmiley00 You're missing my point. My point is that you either believe something exists or you do not believe that thing exists. There is no way around that: its the law of non-contradiction. Furthermore, you either believe the evidence for something proves it absolutely beyond any doubt or you do not believe that that is the case.

[garrettducat]

@guysmiley00 All I'm saying is that you HAVE TO be one of four things by law of non-contradiction:

Agnostic Atheist - lack of belief and freely admits there is not sufficent evidence to prove any claims.

Agnostic Theist - has a belief and freely admits there is not sufficent evidence to prove any claims.

Faithful Atheist - lack of belief and claims there is sufficent evidence to prove their claim.

Faithful Theist - has a belief and claims there is sufficent evidence to prove their claim.

[guysmiley00]

@garrettducat I think you're overlooking the fact that, law of non-contradiction notwithstanding, you're inserting assumptions in your categories that are not necessarily all-encompassing. You are making assumptions in the definitions of "God", "existence", and "evidence" (and probably other areas) that make your categories insufficient to cover the range of possible states. As such, your categories are incomplete and, in insisting that they aren't, you are being overly reductionist.

[Aquaria]

@guysmiley00

LIAR.

Words mean things, and that matters. What determines their meanings are collective consensus. The meanings can change, OVER TINME. What they can't do is be redefined for despicable personal agendas like you are trying to do.

Evidence means evidence. God means God. Existence means existence.

You don't get to redefine them to whatever you want them to mean. You aren't a collective. You are, however, a sophist, a nice way in philosophy to say:

LIAR

[guysmiley00]

@Aquaria My goodness, I think someone needs a time out.

I can't help but notice that you insisted that "words mean things" (which I agree with), but then failed to actually provide definitions for the words in question.

[thegeno64]

HAHAHAHAHAHA

can i use you chair...

in other words

"bitch your nothing but a scam and a hag, get the fuck out of that chair and give it to me"

[jimboybaboy]

OMG I want that dream machine where can I buy it???? lmao

[q1s3d45g6]

What's the song at 1:50 ?

[redsoxx2424]

at 1:47 he tells her to not ask him any questions. maybe because he knows what he's about to do is the most unbelievable part, and she could question if its real

[veetrashox]

I would guess that Lorraine DiFelice is only following "Robert Frowly's" lead, because she sees he has showmanship and she can exploit it commercially. She is a business owner first and metaphysical believer second. Watch Richard Dawkins interview with Derren Brown. There Brown explains that there is more money to be made and celebrity presenting yourself a having real supernatural abilities. Presenting yourself as a performer of illusions and parlor tricks, doesn't pay as well.

[afrogat]

the secret is in the chair switch, i need to solve this mystery. 0:32

[Rautarutto]

Derren should do a spoken word album. Or maybe some sort of an audiobook.The subject of the book wouldn't matter :D he has such an awesome voice

[FreePenguins08]

blahblahblah

[SASRosco03]

Horrible Music

[dirtyhyde8]

isnt it too easy to convince already convinced people. The only interesting part was with the atheists.

[vertigo502]

some people who claims they are atheists are actually just agnostics- they simply don't care whether there is god or not- these people can be persuaded to believe in god because they didn't really spend time convincing themselves strongly that god does not exist. atheists actively deny the existence of god- they are convinced. agnostics don't even bother exploring the question but are comfortable not believing until persuaded otherwise.

[keithburgun]

you can be: an agnostic atheist, a gnostic atheist, an agnostic theist, or a gnostic theist.

[64amped]

How so? Is atheism not just another belief system?

[ejstaats]

Atheism is a lack of belief in gods. That's it. Therefore, it is not a belief system. There are many belief systems atheists can actually ascribe to. Most people who think of atheists think of rationalists, skeptics, and secular humanists, but Scientology and Buddhism are actually atheist worldviews as well.

I consider myself a secular humanist, which basically means I use reason to develop my world view and my ethics, while rejecting a supernatural basis for morals and decision making.

[williamtheconcreter]

ever thought about the word? a-theism.

theism: the belief in at least one deity.

invert theism and you have atheism, hence without a belief in any deity.

i would say it is more like the complete absence of a belief system, but it sure is a certain perception/conception of the world

[flavioateo]

@64amped: It isn't. There are many facts that go against the need of any god to explain reality, while there is no definitive clue that there are any supernatural beings.

So, if you are atheist because your parents told you so, it is your belief system; but if you think and question rationally, you quite likely reach atheism (here a synonym for agnosticism, disbelief, secular humanism...).

[64amped]

To support the concept of atheism, but to deny the concept of "creationism" is absurd.

Both polar conclusions are simply beliefs based on faith. Neither hypothesis is empirically provable.

Therefore the true scientific approach would be agnosticism. I find most atheist usually hold a form of resentment for their experiences with religion, which is understandable. But what does that have to do with the existence of a supreme consciousness?

[flavioateo]

If you do not believe in god, any deity or supreme beings, but rely on the empirical world, you're an atheist in the sense that you consider utterly improbable that those thing exist.

They are there just as much as the tooth fairy, aether, or the invisible pink unicorn.

All else is useless speculation.

[TheSpankymonkey]

"If you do not believe in god, any deity or supreme beings, but rely on the empirical world, you're an atheist in the sense that you consider utterly improbable that those thing exist." - Inserting "empirical world" in that sentence is suggesting that there is a god or you rely on something else. An either or. You don't need to make any statement about any state of reality or not to be an atheist, if you do not believe in a god or deity then you are an atheist. Without any further comment!

[64amped]

Obviously one can label oneself as an atheist, but my point is they are no more rational than an evangelist. Both are simply polar opposites on an idea that is impossible to prove or disprove.

Both sides of the isle simply reflect one another in polarity. While both claim to hold superior knowledge or insight over the other side. The grand irony is both conclusions are based entirely in faith.

[TheSpankymonkey]

"Both are simply polar opposites on an idea that is impossible to prove or disprove." - No they are not. No matter how many times you keep thumping that idea of YOURS around it won't make it true. If i don't believe a theists claims i am an atheist. It is not an either or. They are not polar opposites and you are simply dishonest or at best stupid with your arguments. It takes no faith to not believe someone elses. It's a lack of it, IDIOT.

[TheSpankymonkey]

"While both claim to hold superior knowledge or insight over the other side" - So if you make a claim as a theist and i simply don't believe you. That makes me an atheist. To be honest i simply don't believe you, but theists felt that they needed a word to describe that. It happens to be atheist. I need to make no other claims about reality, i need to make no claims about knowledge to be an atheist. I simply don't believe. I think you need a strawman version of atheism to argue with tbh.

[sausagedogmcgee]

Agnosticism and atheism aren't mutually exclusive. You can be an agnostic atheist (which I am), or an agnostic theist. Agnosticism is an admission that as a human you are flawed and unable to truly know anything, especially things like religion and the supernatural which are unprovable and inherently unscientific.

Atheism is a belief in the lack of the supernatural, and I think due to the lack of evidence and incompatibility with science most rational people will at least doubt its existence.

[TheSpankymonkey]

"Both polar conclusions are simply beliefs based on faith. Neither hypothesis is empirically provable." - Not really. If someone tells me a crock of shit and i say i don't believe them then i don't expect some fucking moron to then start telling me i have yet another fucking belief system. My child told me he was an intergalactic warrior this morning, do i now have a new belief system? No, i simply don't fucking believe. Now get off your fucking bandwagon and grow up.

[64amped]

You are a lighthouse of wisdom. It is a shame you are allowed to have children. A planned pregnancy no doubt?

[ww54ww]

seduced

[spookypen]

omgz leik totally.

[heywire84]

He didn't know about her dreams. He made them up. How often can you recall your dreams? She was expecting this "machine" to work, and so it did.

[XSILENTS]

ha ha ha! I couldnt help it

[ExonicPlain]

This lady is such a tool.

[LovelyYTRocks]

She's craving black cock?

[amenzix]

Lol, when he says "quite a large bird", he sounds like Stewie, from Family Guy.

[DarricZA]

You mean... British?

[RhapsodyOfHammerfall]

Yes! Lol.

[sturmbote]

zomg!!1 dream machine?! i want one xD lol

[Mobixpl]

I knew there would be something about birds just look at his hands First he makes an eagle going for a pray then he makes 3 little birds. Bob marley ? maybe a black man maybe? black and white ...

[WKaliber1]

the sex machine

[out6of6my6mind]

The black and white bit was genius!

I love this man

[Bundesnetzagent]

Yeah, bullshit!

[whathehell]

just bullshit, believe in this is like believe in god.. just stupid

[invisibleheero]

lol this is called a "cold reading"

[BenVilma]

Did anybody of you fellas had for one second in mind that this women is a Business person highly influential in the business???? VERY INTerested in making money...???? she probably sniffed a lot of money with this uninteresting machine brought to the market by this very cool and convincing young men ???

[lenny121]

"influential" figures :OOOOO !11!!1

[hymnofashes]

By switching positions he can put objects in the person's field of vision of his choosing.

[vicavox]

Also a lot of his "suggestions" to the woman are very casino based. Of course this makes with her being surrounded by them all in Las Vegas, so ideas of cartwheels (circles like roulette wheels) and well dressed people becomes standard, but she acts surprised that he can work it out.

[Bobstew68]

Very entertaining to watch her shift in expression. She seems very skeptical when he puts the pads on and says 'so, there's movement..', then loosens up. :) Great!

[listenasthewindblows]

I do think that these dreams derren related to her were never actually dreamt by her at all, or if they were, Derren suggested embellishments which she subconciously accepted.. (and to clarify on an earlier point, she became psychologically uncomfortable because swapping chairs was, for her, a psychological demotion, but because of her respect and awe of the person she thought he was, she accepted it and so became willingly submissive, so heightening the effect of any sublimminal persuasion.)

[listenasthewindblows]

Just look at the woman as she sit's down in 'Derren's' chair, she shows all the signs of being uncomfortable (more psychologically than physically)and i think this is a clever trick, because, the woman will take alot of psychological comfort from the belief that her personal and heartfelt dreams are preserved - and are not just (she hopes) meaningless brain nonsense.. and so, she may be alot more likely to [act emotionally and] accept&believe any 'false' memories derren may attempt to suggest.

[listenasthewindblows]

I think one of the key moments in convincing the woman of the dream machine's authenticity was the moment when derren asked to swap chairs.. initially, derren encouraged and supported her self aggrandizing as she sat in her own chair talking about her 'great successes' whilst derren acted impressed and completely receptive to what she was saying.. then, and the crucial moment, he swapped chairs, and in doing so, swapped psychological states of mind (he became 'great' and she became receptive)

[m0eb1us00]

I wonder why he didn't go to the radio. I would have gone there in his place and told everybody in live broadcast, that I was only doing a trick.

[lixechan]

yeah, I ws thinking that too. (^_^) but maybe he thought he'd get pummeled by the lady.. or perhaps he wanted to keep the idea of scepticism away from other people in the media in order to complete his other set ups.

xx

[m0eb1us00]

I believe he is using a process called "cold reading" at the new age woman.

[Firethrush]

Cold reading is a good guess as everything he says is vague till she accepts it...its called a vague detail he he add the "higher satus" Derren gives himself by switching chairs claiming he will be more comfortable (meaning she will be less comfy and needing to belong he he) Lots of fun really! The change of stance is totally a Fritz perl thing from NLP meta model!

[thesicklysmellofrue]

i like how the look on her face changes so quickly.

[scaplins]

I wonder if these "proffesionals" are even concerned with it being real or not. Maybe they just know a money making scheme when they see one?

[jcaps76]

Don't you have anything better to do?

[scaplins]

Ha Ha. We're both dorks

I believe you're the one with something to do.

:)

[ryko26]

@scaplins yes, good point. I was actually surprised that they didn't just say, as a confidential aside, "how you doing it buddy? We all know it's just a scam"

So, does that mean they're just morons who really believe in this rubbish AND make loads of money from other morons? Or, as I think most likely, they just never let their guard down and come clean.

[jmcarvas]

This is bull...

[RatbagMC]

That's the point.

[jmcarvas]

What I mean is, what is the psycological technique that allows somebody to know what oanother person is drawing in another room??? Cammon!!

[RatbagMC]

The technique is to put subconcious suggestions about what to draw into her head before she goes away to draw in the other room (and shout out a few more while she's there), so he can guess what she's thinking. People are far more open to suggestion than what is commonly believed. When people want to believe so strongly, then they will follow suggestions to confirm that belief.

[tab1990]

He doesn't know. He puts the image in their head using words and movements.

[PreyAmongTheWolves]

I actually had a dream with Derren Brown in yesterday...embarrassing if he had to interpret that! lol!

[SeriousSeaman]

does somebody know the name of the song which starts when derren puts on the "dream machine" ?

[explodation]

why give him a thumbs down...he asked bout the song.....immature i think

[refused53]

whats the point in even rating coments? lol

[cappastrano]

Helps weed out spammy types, though tis pretty open to abuse.

[neslock]

Great comment! I gave you a thumbs up :)