Afghan women's rights - 9 Feb 08

[aarontsmall1975]

No Islam is not as repressive as some groups would make it seem, unfortunately the capacity of anyone to impose basic human rights upon the Pashtun is doomed to fail, the only group that can unite the Pashtun is the Taliban. However, we badly need to assist the Tajik & Hazara Communities to prevent them falling under the control of the Taliban under the US push to return the bulk of Afghanistan to the Taliban. We should also expel Pakistan from the Commonwealth.

[SajidaKL]

As an afghan woman, i say thats some screwed up culture!

They claim to be following Islam but actually they are male chauvinistic pigs. Islam gave women freedom and these bullbags are taking it away. Its time they start scratching that "culture" off, otherwise there's no hope for afghanistan.

[proudfemale]

@SajidaKL WHAT freedom are you sahying islam gave women....your dirty prick mohammed taught that females are

-dirty,deficient,inferior to ANY muslim male

-must OBEY/SUBJUGATE to males or be punished

-their evidence/testimony is only half that of male

-males have rights to beat them

-ADULT women cant make own decisions...requiring male CONSENT for everything

now WHAT freedoms are you referring to when girls are denied childhoods & islam has MURDER as penalty for non belief/leaving

[SajidaKL]

@proudfemale I'm not going to defend Islam and write a long article about it, but I'm going to reply to your accusations honestly. You claims females are:

-dirty,deficient,inferior to ANY muslim male = FALSE

-OBEY/SUBJUGATE males or be punished =FALSE

-evidence/testimony is only half that of male = mentioned in one verse that relates to testimony on financial transactions.Plus its diff in every situation(ie ONE female business graduate is far more credible than a few illeteral male)

[SajidaKL]

@proudfemale NO! women do not have to obey men. and they are certainly not punished for it. and NO! we are definitely not intellectually inferior to men, if anything i think they could learn a thing or two from us lol.

the things you said ARE utterly repulsive.. i have to agree, but i'm 100% honest with you when i say that islam DOES NOT teach that, if it did.. trust me i wouldnt be following the religion.

[proudfemale]

@SajidaKL re obeying..ITS WHAT YOUR PRICK MOHAMMED INSTRUCTED

he said you are 'inferior TO ANY muslim male' which is why your evidence/testimonay is only HALF VALUE of theirs

so because your dad isnt one who would MURDER you for daring to think for yourself...youre saying you DONT CARE that thousands of muslim girls ARE MURDERED each year re 'own decisions' AND THIS DUE TO ISLAM ITSELF

me learn from you...WHAT exactly lol...how to lie?

how to IGNORE human misery islam causes?

[SajidaKL]

@proudfemale look i said men cud learn a thing or two from women, not u from me, it was an obvious joke. i DO care about the 1000s of women around d world that r tortured n killed especially in the name of a religion that I KNOW completely forbids it. Muhammad thought ppl to be peaceful and actually gave women rights. as a proudfemale, go set ur facts straight. its like i'm talking to myself. i can bet my life that the things i have said to u so far r the truth!

[proudfemale]

@SajidaKL sure...to try to 'defend' the indefensible and reality is a waste of effort

you claim women DONT require male consent ...are you prepared to say they can 'disobey' males and MAKE OWN DECISIONS about whatever they choose to, including marriage

why would you try to deny whats in koran re wife beating tho...or what imams sanction

[SajidaKL]

@proudfemale lol we dont "disobey" because we don't HAVE to obey anyyy man!! i'm sorry but it sounds a bit ridiculous to me.. because im a muslim girl, and i'm a practicing one, all my life i'v been thought to make my own decisions, choose what i want to do, and that's how i have and i am living my life. so u can understand why ur accusations sound absurd to me. im 22 nw and i can choose who to marry, i've made that clear to my dad..and he has always encouraged me to think for myself.

[proudfemale]

@SajidaKL you live in a country which guarantees you human rights,equality,freedoms...and you TRY TO TELL ME that the reason MILLIONS are denied that is NOTHING to do with islam

islam sanctions

-wife beating

-inequality for women

-children denied childhoods

and controls by taught fears/deceit/MURDER

now WHAT IS IT you cant comprehend re what goes on in your ummah

and WHERE IS YOUR VOICE when girls are mutilated on dictates of imams,rape VICTIMS imprisoned/killed

[SajidaKL]

@proudfemale yeah i agree with u, and many muslims would agree with you, that the country that im living is actually more islamic than the so-called "islamic countries" in the middle east.

i keep saying this again and again, i find it upsetting what's going on over in the middle east, where they use islam to justify their selfish acts. they are ridiculous and trust me will go to HELL for it. (yes muslims believe in hell and heaven)

[SajidaKL]

@proudfemale

-males have rights to beat them = FALSE

-ADULT women cant make own decisions...requiring male CONSENT for everything = FALSE

Those are HONEST answers. Please if you're going to hate Islam, do it for what it really is, NOT for what people make it to be.

[proudfemale]

@SajidaKL please dont be dishonest...your prick mohammed GAVE MALES RIGHTS TO BEAT WIVES..and the incidence of abuse of women in your ummah is HIDEOUS

re male consent...are you saying ADULT WOMEN dont have to have male consent, can freely make their own decisions about anything/everything, and can marry non muslims

I dont claim females are dirty...I said thats what your dirty prick mohammed said

as if I would talk such filth re innocent females..but he did

[SajidaKL]

@proudfemale the incidence of abuse in the so-called "islamic countries" is high, & its really upseting because they are going away from the teachings of islam.

Yes i'm telling u that ADULT women dont have to have male consent, CAN freely make their own decisions about everything/anything. CAN marry a non-muslim if they wish, heck they coudl BE a non-muslim if they wanted because God gave them a choice, to be a muslim or not.

sis iv no idea where u get ur info from,but sry its really not true

[proudfemale]

@SajidaKL nonsense....YOUR DISHONESTY wont wash with me

WHAT god are you saying gave them a choice...your prick mohammed INSTRUCTED people have no choice when he said MURDER for non belief/leaving...that ADULT women must obey/subjugate or be punished...and FORBIDDEN to marry a non muslim

so dont tell me MILLIONS who suffer degradation can 'freely' make own decisions when we SEE OTHERWISE

[SajidaKL]

@proudfemale i'm reallllly not being dishonest.

and im talking about the God, the One God, who created the earth and the whole universe. He is the One i and any muslim would belive in. Muhammad was just a man who brought God's word forward, just like Jesus, and Moses and Abraham. i mean thats basic islam.

[elisabethkohler33]

@SajidaKL so then why do muslims get all upset when Muhammad is insulted?

[SajidaKL]

@elisabethkohler33 i think its very hypocritical that Muslims don't get "all upset" when Jesus/Moses/Abraham (peace be upon them) are insulted by various groups, these great men including Muhammad are prophets from God in Islam and its only natural to feel upset when someone insults one who u greatly respect. But there's a difference btw getting upset and getting violent and becoming threatening, which unfortunately is the route some muslims take (obviously AGAINST the teachings of islam)

[sirasy]

BASTARD AFGHANI MEN!

[glass509]

what the fuck is wrong with the men in their society?? no real man would make their woman dress like that...no good religion would make a woman dress like that."and since we all came from a woman got our name from a woman and our game from a woman, i wonder why we take from our women why we rape our women do we hate our women? i think its time to kill for our women time to heal our women, be REAL to our women." so will the real men get up? i know you're fed up ladies...but keep your head up...

[hellokitty7151]

@glass509 oppressed women has nothing to do with religion. Islam says that women and men are equal and both have a right to education. It even says that women are not supposed to FULLY cover their faces. Religion doesn't have hands, feet, or whatever...humans do and humans are the ones that are committing these crimes, religion isn't.

[Mummydearest15]

1:33 The reporter is a whore. We can see her hair clearly

[randomusername1111]

And the problem is...

[crazyzabo]

Please check out dictionary on what is a whore. If your definition is true, then, I am surprised at the great multitude of male prositutes that exist not only in the world, but in Afganistan.

[abcnana100]

Judges 16:30 And Samson said, Let me die with the Philistines. And he bowed himself with all his might; and the house fell upon the lords, and upon all the people that were therein. So the dead which he slew at his death were more than they which he slew in his life.

{WHAT IT PROOF}[IT PROOF THAT SAMSON WAS FIRST SUICIDE ATTACKER IN THE HISTORY]

[abcnana100]

Numbers 31:17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

Numbers 31:18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

Numbers 31:33 And threescore and twelve thousand beeves,

Numbers 31:34 And threescore and one thousand asses,

Numbers 31:35 And thirty and two thousand persons in all, of women that had not known man by lying with him.

[abcnana100]

1) Christian killed millionsof Red indian & builed USA(women &chirldren)

2)Christian Hitler killed 6 million jews

3)Christian USA killed millions in JAPAN(atomic bomb)

4)Christian America killed 600,00 inIraq(who have no connection with Alqaida & WMD)STILL KILLING INNOCENT AFGHANS

[68kaspar]

Men and women are equal!

prove me wrong..

im glad about those women who are fighting for their rights and against some stupid belief!

[aishaa22]

its thier culture to be blamed not islam.. its the lack of islamic knowlgde.. if thier men understood islam they would never stop thier women from learning because in islam education is a must both on muslim men n women.. no difference is set... but the jewish culture of the pashtoons need to be uprooted n burned.. islam needs to take its place:-)

[bjbjbjbjbj]

ISLAM IS EVIL

FUCK ISLAM

[aishaa22]

lol bjbjbj i am sure u r a mother fucking cunt who stil wets the bed....

[bjbjbjbjbj]

nice

[proudfemale]

@bjbjbjbjbj re rape...your own leaders report rape/incest/abuse RAMPANT in ummah and always have been

your own prick mohammed RAPED and you dribble on about rape lol

the majority of female prisoners in pakistan are rape VICTIMS

and why is it those who have been conned/lied to like you ALSO HAVE APPALLINGLY DIRTY minds/words

[mV33rs]

I dont understand why muslims are like this. Complete oppossit of what Islam really is. Did you people know that the first wife of our Prophet Muhammad sas was a great buisiness woman who had a lot of influence at that time? And look how these muslims treat their woman nowadays. Barbaric... I dont understand why the Taliban believes this.. its not the way of the Prophet sas.

[SirianKings]

The prophet fucked a 9 year old, which is alot worse than any of this.

[mV33rs]

do you have any prove? And you're being very disrespectfull, because people like you wars start. But ofcourse you dont care. You only think about yourself and who the fuck gives ashit about what someone else opinion is.

[SirianKings]

I give you a cold fact, which you clearly can't handle.

I didn't make that up; Ask any Muslim, and they'll confirm that.

Muhammad = Pedohpile

[mV33rs]

Joining someone in marriage is abit different than having sex with the person. Get your facts straight you racist.

[SirianKings]

"Joining someone in marriage..."

Hahahahahaa..

Look, you thick cunt! You don't marry someone to play hide and seek with them; you get down to real business.

[mV33rs]

then you obviously dont know the real reason why someone would marry somebody. And the Prophet pbuh did not have sex with her untill she reached an appropriate age. He even told her dad to take all dolls and toys of her with him to the Prophet's house so she could play as a child. The Prophet pbuh even played with her dolls and her. Marriage is not all about sex but more about love. Which you obviously dont know the meaning of.

[SirianKings]

"He even told her dad to take all dolls and toys of her with him to the prophet's house so she could play as a child. The prophet even played with her dolls and her."

LOLLLLLLLLLL

Are fucking listening to yourself?

A 55 year old raises a 6 year old in his home like a daughter and then he fucks her when she reaches "appropriate age."

Hahahahaha..

This shit is even worse.

[mV33rs]

Get your facts straight, she was 9 year old. Back in those days woman married at a very young age. What is so wrong with marrying a 9 year old girl? If you treat her well and treat her with love. You dont make sense at all siriankings, and I really dont appreciate you for your racist comments on my profile. That shows how weak you are. And desperate. You know nothing about love, I bet you never even felt it. You digust me. You belong to the losers in this world. Not worth talking to anymore.

[SirianKings]

"What's wrong with marrying a 9 year old girl?"

Hahahahaa...

At last, you showed your true colors. You sick fuck!

[mV33rs]

Okay tell me what is wrong about it? Do you know what marriage is? tell me instead of your disrespectfull comments.

[vidajan90]

in the time of the prophet mohammed aws

there was just war

they married young girls to protect them

as i can remember in the "western history" young girls were raped and killed

in war time

so you compare a past society with now?

look what western old do now in thailand, malaysia and africa and so on

they not marry, they only f.... young girls over there!!!

[aishaa22]

thats right vida jan plus dont forget at the century of muhammad saw 10 yrs old girls wewre not consideered young like they r today, those girls were physically mentaly n emotionly ready to marry plus it was common amongst even non muslim arabs n the world to marry at that age.. but the 10 yrs old girls today is not physically or from any aspect ready to be married yet these poor girls r raped in non muslim countries on daily bases.. even younger than 10 r raped so the west need to shove it....

[proudfemale]

@aishaa22 WHAT makes you both so dishonest AND appallingly ignorant

the average age of ONSET of puberty was far higher/later then than today...and you SHOULD know that its a transition that takes several years

for you to claim a CHILD is physically/emotionally/mentall­y mature is juST PITIFUL NONSENSE from one who is too weak/scared to think for herself or face reality

[xkuchex]

i cant beleive u have the guts to say esomething like that

go ask a sheik and he will explain to you why muhhamad isnt one- i dont wanna bother because i knoe a sheick could do a better job of it

may u rot in hell

[pwincezzforzyy]

i dont get why people are accusing any religion especially islam cuz if ur ignorant ur bound to come to such pre conclusion.not all muslims r like the way u see on stupid vids like this one.9islam dosnet teach all this bt the followers dont go fully by it

any way i dnt hate anyone thers good and bad in all races,cultures, etc

[CayenneJasmine]

Damn islam, damn chauvinist pigs! Stop islam. destroy it!

[juergen4020]

fuck allah

[SuperSOG]

fuck u fuck u re family fuck u wife sucker bitch gay fuck u dont ever say like this it well kill you like rat becareful

[biGpoppapimp1]

pashtun culture which doesn't believe in the rights for women....those fuckin PUSHTAN FUCKIN COCKSUCKERS NEED TO BE SLAUGHTERED LIKE SHEEP

[293208]

wot theeeeeeeee?

[mp4ab]

Well at least they are having a good time making crafts

[speakersssssssss9]

no its not just the generation which you have grown up in. womens rights should be a fundemental right in any generation and Islam does not constitute the unworthiness of women in any aspect. its cultures which distort the image of Islam, treat their women like they are nothing and say that Islam has provided them with an excuse to do so. Islam does not and if anyone is to educate theirselves in Islam in the slightest bit they will see that it does infact give women rights

[TAMARLANE]

Ayeere

ou seem to be lumping all of Islam into one characterization of Islam.

I am Islamic, and I adhere to the teachings, as best I can, found in the Old Testament, the Psalms, and the Koran.

You seem to think a very very small minority of Muslims who have hijacked Islam for their own purposes represent the vast vast majority of Muslims.

[1096whitmale]

fuk women...for real. Thumbs up arabs :)

[bobfuck1]

I respect women , U fucking muslims start respecting women .

[TAMARLANE]

It is a twisted way of respecting women, "protecting" them, and by so doing showing respect for them. But, it is out of hand now, and out of synch with time. It is time to quit "protecting" women.

[ZombiesNTea]

Denying anyones rights isn't "protecting" anything.

[rhythmghost]

You would need to know more about Islam, and about the times (around 625), and about the conditions of living in those times.

I doubt you will ever go to the trouble to study and understand the origins of this custom. I also doubt you will ever learn about why 4 wives are permitted, and how that benefits women either.

[ZombiesNTea]

I do need to learn more about the Koran. Though, being a book that justifies murder and beheading, I have my concerns. No worries, I am just as jaded about Christianty, Judiasm, and all the rest.

[rhythmghost]

The books of Islam are:

The Old Testament of the Bible.

The Psalms.

And the Koran.

The Koran is an easy read. In English anyway.

The differences between Christianity and Judaism and Islam are relatively small.

[ZombiesNTea]

And they are all violent and misogynistic

[rhythmghost]

Ain't life grand?

[Ayeere]

But the only one read by the majority of muslims ins the Koran, and the only one followed is the Koran. Thats like saying 'The Five people You meet in heaven' is a book of Christianity. Sure it mentions heaven, but the followers dont do anything from it.

[whateverlikeda]

um excuse me?..

Having 4 other wives of your man exually BENEFITS you?? Damn

Okay then, you should live with 4 other men of your wife. Acording to wath you just said, it would be fun to a muslim.

[ILGAR93]

woooooooow... tunis, turkey, ajerbaican, egypt... woooooooow

[liberalsistah]

Well excuuuuse me, but I respect woman to such a degree that they leave me quivering in my boots! Real female Muslim icons kicked ass and would've puched you in the face for saying such things about our religion. Shame they aint around now, at most they'll only make your ears bleed. Us woman are great we are.

[thegirl44]

You are truly an idiot. With each comment of yours that I read I become more and more convinced of this. This comment makes it perfectly apparent that you know nothing about your historical sisters in Islam.

[liberalsistah]

Yeah you would say that while yr ass at home sticking to a hadeeth that says all you oughta do is spin thread. I bet you think yr creating a revolution for Muslim women by using a PC, dear SISTAH!

By the way you may think I'm an idiot but at leats I dun need a headscarf to hold my brain cells together. Now go back to yr tapestry set and likkle cooking set-the modern world aint for you. Including computers-did you get permission from yr Mahram to use one?

[thegirl44]

I'm not a Muslim, dumb shit. If you had read the comment properly you would have seen that I was accusing your uneducated ass of being one.

[Ayeere]

i saw the title, and i thought "oxymoron". then i watched the video. Interesting. Something positve as a result of the American invasion? again, Interesting.... truly i am baffled.

[autoassult]

when thay come out of the building watch out thay run around like PACMANS enemies ghosts under the covers i sooo much cracked up this is a classic example of the pacman game