Fallen Brothers: The Tragedy of USS Juneau

[jrlomy2k]

It has been some time since my earlier comments here and still visiting now, nearly every post (outside the negative ones, of course) touches my heart at those who were somehow intimately connected to this tragedy. May God bless you and all your families.

[SportDogg2008]

The Sea is Just loaded with Naval Ships/ Planes from WW II!! It would be nice if we could pin point all the American ships and dont forget all our Sailors who we lost!!

[rimagirlme1]

I love this movie and my heart goe's out to the family still today, omg, such a loss.

[Change6609]

The Juneau looked pretty modern and well equipped for that time. The camouflage scheme strikes me as superb: I guess the ship was torpedoed during daylight and good weather conditions, because otherwise it would have been very hard to detect.

[danwild6]

The Juneau shouldn't have even been in the surface engagement. She was an AA Cruiser she should have been married to an aircraft carrier never and never taken into a surface action.

[progressiverebel]

They don't have a song about it. The YMS 133 a fleet minesweeper went down in a storm,with all hands off Coos Bay Oregon Feb 20 1942. My father was transferred off on January 30...He always remember his friends... who all died!

I remember them too. Now you can too. ! .

[pt45g46]

War is full of tragedies such as this. The Japs started the war. Our magnetic detonated torpedoes did not work as well as the Japs' "Long Lances" torpedoes. The captain of the Helena was overly cautious, because his force couldn't hurt the Japs, but they could hurt him. The Japs also gave us the Bataan Death March, the Rape of Nanking, and the slaughter of P.O.W.s, among other tragedies. However, we got 'em at Hiroshima and Nagasaki -- more tragedies.

[jrlomy2k]

What makes this even more grievous and remorseful is the fact that some of these men HAD made it to a life raft; including the eldest Sullivan Brother, George. However, as listed in the description above not only did they have to endure the dangers of their situation, but rescue planes PASSED OVER THEM! George, in his incredible sorrow and situation, became insane and jumped into the shark infested waters. Read "Left to Die" by Jimmy Sullivan, son of youngest Sullivan brother, Albert.

[snakes3425]

@jrlomy2k

All I know for certain is that some justice was done, in that Halsey relieved the captain of the Helena of his command for ordering the fleet to continue on. As for the crew of the B-17 who failed to pass on the message, it's unknown if they ever were identified or came forward, or how they were disciplined for failing to pass on Juneau's SOS

[SportDogg2008]

@jrlomy2k Do you know where i could find that book?

[jrlomy2k]

@SportDogg2008 I do not. I myself have not read the entire book, though there are excerpts of it on the net. I just Google searched it. I'm sorry I could not be more help.  Good luck.

[dialgafanclub99]

@snakes3425 the picture at 2:35..... what is it pointing at ?

[snakes3425]

@dialgafanclub99

Japanese Aircraft

[ssprosup]

Hey snakes what lesson are you talking about? The Navy never allowed brothers to serve on the same ship again. There were no brothers on the Indy. The Juneau was in a fire fight. The Indy was not. Nobody knew the Indy had been sunk until the first rescue ship (USS DOYLE)) pulled the first survivor from the water 5 days later. Nice job anyway regards.

[snakes3425]

@ssprosup

The high death tolls on both ships were the results of communications errors, in the case of the Juneau one of the other ships in the flotillia sailed on and didn't report that there were survivors in the water after Juneau had been sunk, and a B-17 flying over head picked up Juneau's SOS but never passed the message on, the same way Indy's SOS was ignored

[Kilooscarromeo]

@snakes3425 What he hell happened ? how many were in the water ? man that terrible who were the idiots & what happened to them after mistake was found .

[snakes3425]

@Kilooscarromeo

About 100 of the Juneau's crew, including three of the Sullivan brothers managed to abandon ship. As for the captain of the Helena, Capt. Gilbert Hoover, who ordered the remaining ships to continue on. Admiral Halsey stripped him of his command for giving the order. As for the B-17, the message wasn't passed on because the crew didn't want to break radio silence

[Kilooscarromeo]

@snakes3425 sorry i got the info

[rivka614]

We,the citizens of the USA and the world owe a debt of gratitude to men like my Dad who served. Stand and say,THANK YOU

[jayekennedyland]

@scorzeny45 You forgot to insult the rest of the people that fought in the war. Not just white men gave their lives. Don't forget all the others, Native Americans, blacks, hispanics, Japanes. The WindTalkers movie was made about an unbreakable code using the Najao language. Do the research before speaking. Sorry I can't spell when I'm mad.

[Blaze028]

I just found out today that my great great uncle "Jimmy" Fitzgerald was one of the only survivors of the Juneau. He was one of the men that didn't get attacked by the sharks. I thought it was remarkable

[Brendan3875]

Amazing......I plan to educate myself about these Naval tragedies. We are indebted to these heroes who gave their lives.

[MadAndyD96]

Thanks :L

[MadAndyD96]

Hey, Whats the name of the picture at 1:19 ? Its a great picture of the F4F wildcat, And the Kongo Class Battlecruiser.

[snakes3425]

It's called: The attack on the Hiei.

[scorzeny45]

i read that the town these guys grew up in is loaded with illegal aliens now,shameful. also why is it always the irish or southern whites who fight for your country? IVE NEVER SEEN JEWISH MEN SACRIFICE FOR YOUR COUNTRY.NOT FAIR.

[DArnold1236]

@scorzeny45 You are a moron....

[Skypoint56]

11,000 American Jewish soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines were killed in World War II. Also, some 300,000 Jewish soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines died serving in the armys of the United Nations in World War II; and nearly 1,500,000 Jewish servicemen served in the armies of the United Nations.

Do a little research next time.

[iduefoscari]

@scorzeny45 I despair for the world when I read such ignorant comments.

[gotgank]

@scorzeny45 Do u know that the first man to win the German Army Iron Cross in WW1 was a German Jew? Fighting for his counrty.

Ignorance is a disease.

[SteelGunner4104]

i agree. the US navy should have provided escorts for them. and then the captain of the Indianapolis was blamed for the sinking. it wasnt his fault, he was denied destroyer escort by the very people who blamed him.

[BB2433]

I think the sub that sank the Juneau was sunk. I believe only 10 men survived this sinking. All five Sullivan brothers were lost during the sinking. This is exactly what happened to the USS Indianapolis. The navy did not provide any escorts and so the two ships were sunk and their sinking were missed for days before a rescue was mounted. Of the 1200 men on the Indianapolis, only 317 were saved. Rest these men who gave their lives.

[italodisco4ever1]

That proves once again that the subs (no matter of what nationality) were by far the most deadly naval weapon during the ww2.

rip juneau

[frankydman]

Today (Meaning when this comment was posted) is November 13th. It is the 67th anniversary of CL-52's sinking. A moment of silence for her fallen crew.

[frankydman]

On November 13, 1942; more than 700 people died in one of the worst tragidies of Ironbottom Sound. Among the lost souls were:

EM2c Leonard Anderson, Sea2c Robert Apgar, Lt. Cmndr J.S. Blue, Sea2c Charles Burkett, BM1c Thomas Byron, Sea2c Robert Cadby, SM3c Warren Crook, Cox Carl Degroat, Sea1c Lawrence Dumper, Sea2c Robert Edsall, F1c Glenn Fink, TM3c Herbert Greer, Sea2c Sidney Herbert, Sea2c Frank Ingram, Sea1c Albert Krall, FC1c Edward Lyon

This is only a small sample of the lost souls

[Goochmarie]

@frankydman

My grandfather was John Stuart Blue, Navigator LTCDR. Its nice to see his name mentioned. I have been doing research on this lately, mostly for my mother who was born just 5 days before he died. He was important enough that a ship was named after him the following year (USS Blue DD-744 a destroyer) but I rarely come across his name in the accounts of this event, not even in Naval websites...

[Volksgreadier1993]

At 2:35 what is it the error is pointing at ?

[IowaBattleship02]

I wish her men a best in heaven. God bless America.

[Togeita]

your ALL DOUCHE HIPPIES EEEEEEEVILLLLLLLL!!!! O by the way this is me Kyle Lexington. Japan is sick thats all there is to it. Mislead by their Goverment.

[Toubilein]

auf was zeigen die Pfeile bei 2:34 =?

geiles Video.!!! 5*!!!

[KyleLexington]

O my god Only 10 men survived. Now i know never to forgive thoughs bitches.

Hell with hirohito only if he were put to death that basterd.

[skormsghost]

hey dont go blaming them so fast. how many innocents and family members did we kill in that war. Look at the atomic bombs we killed a lot of innocents so who is the enemy in their eyes. all we need to do is to forgive

[BB2433]

hey you. it isnt our fault that the Japanese decided to attack Pearl Harbor with the loss of 3000 Americans. They deserved what they got. Did you know that the Japanese used medical experiments on American POW's during WW2. They were worse than the nazi's on the torture front. I admit there was some generally good generals and admirals , but most of them were generally evil. Did you know that when we were nearing Japan they ordered the August 1 order which states to kill all POW

[BB2433]

Did you also know that the japanese on one occasion simulated a air raid and have American POW's run into a air raid shelter the POW's made and then lighted them on fire with gasoline and many burned alive and the survivors were bayoneted or machine gunned by the japanese. Only 3 i believe survived that terrible incident.

[lisajans1968]

INNOCENT?!?!?!?! HAHAHA!!! your funny!

[KyleLexington]

Yea the nukes were needed otherwise the war wouldnt have been stoped. The IJN was handing out assualt rifles to civilians. In Okanawa the japenes civilians jumped to their deaths rather than to be captured. These people were sick and your telling me not to blame them? Please read your history then youll know how they were.

[skormsghost]

In their eyes we were savages. You need to read up YOUR HISTORY and not what your racist teacher/grandparents told you. If someone dropped nukes on us right now we would see them as evil and i can see u dieing from it and i would be "like hmm who cares" but your family would be mad. And the people who nuked us would be thinking this was the right thing to do because we are savages going anywhere we want and killing whoever we want to get what we want.

[BB2433]

Ive read up on my history you douche hippie. They're misled by their government but they still committed acts of terrible crimes. There is a difference between starting a war and ending a war. The Japanese HAPPILY attacked Pearl Harbor with the loss of 3,000 AMERICAN SAILORS who mostly died in their beds without defending themselves. We didnt ask for war, the Japanese did. An example of a crime is: The Bataan March. my family served in WW2 and 2 died bc of Japanse Banzai charge.

[skormsghost]

OMG U RETARD we were about to join in the war. we just need a reason to. The attack on pearl harbor was just a way for the government to say that it is okay. And we didnt kill more than 3000 innocents. And we didnt do acts of terrible crimes we locked up any one that looked japan in america and treated them like prisoners for doing nothing. so stop sayin you read up on your history wikipidia doesn't count redneck

[frankydman]

DID YOU KNOW: The Class of ship that the USS Juneau belonged to was the Atlanta class light cruiser. 11 were built, Among them the USS Atlanta, Juneau, San Diego, San Juan, Oakland and Spokane. Armed with 16 5-inch/38 caliber DP guns, they weren't very good in the artillary role, but they had one of the best AA outputs of any ship. In fact, the only 2 Atlanta class ships to be sunk, Atlanta and Juneau, were sunk because they engaged in the artillery role.

[jrlomy2k]

First, to the soldiers, active and retired: THANK YOU and GOD BLESS YOU for your service! I have grown up knowing and cherishing the Sullivan story and movie. It is these pieces of history which should be taught in the school systems, not the distorted and censored follies of the media today. These men were and still are true heroes. My father and my uncles could not serve in the same areas of the Vietnam war because of the Sullivan act. Boblabob80, it's an honor to know you.

[Doug4422]

Being a former combat sailor myself, I am very aware of what happened, and it is still considered a tragedy among Navy Veterans. Being an Iowan, I grew up with the stories of the five Sullivan Brothers, and the sacrifice they, and their family made. Even today, you can't walk down a street in the Sullivans hometown of Waterloo, without seeing some kind of tribute to them.

[tmcc58]

My uncle, William F. Long, was a crew member on the USS Juneau. I received my middle name in memory of him and I am very greatful to my parents for giving it to me. We have old letters on Juneau stationary written by my uncle and photo's of him in his Navy uniform as the only momentos of his life and death. On behalf of my Family, please allow me to pay tribute to all of our Veterans who stand at the ready to protect and defend our freedom. May God Bless America.

[frankydman]

DID YOU KNOW: Among the more than 800 victims were the 5 Sullivan brothers. George, Francis, Joeseph, Madison and Albert all died when she sank. As a tribute to them, a single ship, the USS The Sullivans (DD-537), a Fletcher Class Destroyer, was named after them.

[jrlomy2k]

Actually, George was the only brother who made it to one of the three life rafts. However, because he had been injured, and these rafts were left on the ocean for at least seven days, George (as quoted by one of the ten survivors) "lost his head", and dove into the ocean, thinking he could swim to land. Unfortunately, he was killed in the shark-infested waters.

[tdhbell]

The video is very respectful. I am personally grateful to all veterans, especially those who died for our freedom. The video could be longer, for the tragic loss to sink in for more people.

[chadheck96]

The video is streched out.

[irishoforiel]

USS The Sullivans had a shamrock painted on her forward stack!

[saccoschool]

My name is Patrick Saccomanni and I am named after my Uncle Pasquale "Patsy" Saccomanni who dies on that ship. I have always been very proud of him though I was born in 1964. I'm extremely thankful for you posting this video. I believe it truly honors them.

Thank you

[boblabob80]

it is nice to meet someone like you on this site i am related to the Sullivan's by blood they were my uncles great uncles there was a museum opened to day to honor all the Sullivan's and all people lost on the Juneau

[cdfe3388]

The Juneau was avenged by her sister ship, the USS San Diego. Nicknamed "the Unbeatable Ship Nobody Ever Heard Of", the San Diego guarded the USS Enterprise throughout the war, was in dozens of battles, and never took a single hit and never lost a man. In 1945, the San Diego was the first Allied ship to enter Tokyo Bay. Today, the San Diego's combat record stands as the 2nd most-decorated US warship in history (after the Enterprise).

[jers59]

The Juneau was built in Kearny New Jersey along with some other famous WW2 ships Atlanta, Fletcher, Radford, Jenkins, La Vallette, Allen M Sumner, Gearing

[Tebok73509]

The images at 1:45 is of 5 brothers who died on the ship.

[HUNDLEYGUY95]

hey furonmage, fuck you, lets see your country lose a ship with a crew of 820 men and only rescue 10, and a navies loss is noty measured in the number of ships in the us, it is in the number of MEN lost

[HUNDLEYGUY95]

yet another major us navy tradegy, lands right alongside the indianapolis

[Cirux321]

The entire Guadalcanal campaign was a Naval disaster. Not only Juneau, but the USS Houston, HMAS Perth, HMS Electra, HNLMS De Ruyter, HNLMS Java, HMS Exeter, HMS Jupiter and others... way too many ships sank, sailors dead and around 800 or so taken as prisoners of war. The only consolation came several months later when we sent Enterprise and her airwing as well as steam the battleships Washington and South Dakota to finally destroy the IJN taskforce, while the Marines took and held the islands.

[HUNDLEYGUY95]

you are so dumb, all the ships you named were sunk over 1000 MILES WEST OF THE SOLOMONS, houston in java sea with perth, exeter, east sea, over 2000 miles west of solomons, electra, jupiter, java, de ruyter also all sunk 1000s of miles west, and we had enterprise there from the start except when she went for refits and repairs, and washington and south dakota were only sent cause they were in the enterprise's fleet, and in war disasters happen

[HUNDLEYGUY95]

there is no way to prevent them, and the naval battle for the solomons was neccesary, sure ship were sunk and men were killed, but it was no disaster, it wasnt for either side, only for the jap army, a disaster in war is where you lose big fucking ass time, that was not the case in the solomons, both sides came out with about equal losses, us, 2 carriers, several DDs and CAs as well as CLs, the japs lost 1BB, and many more CAs, CLs, and DDs than the allies, learn history bitch for once

[HUNDLEYGUY95]

and those of who put thunmbs down on me, that is the goddamned truth, solomons, 29 allied ships lost, including the carriers hornet and wasp, like the battle of santa cruz islands, carrier HORNET was lost, with one DD and 1 carrier heavily damaged, 2 DDs heavily damaged, and 81 aircraft lost, while the japanese had 2 CVs heavily damaged, 1 CA hevily damaged, and 99 aircraft destroyed

[HUNDLEYGUY95]

battle of cape esperance, allies lost 1 DD sunk, 1 crusier amd 1 DD hevily damaged, while the japanese lost 1 cruiser, and 3 DDs sunk, and while the naval battle of guadacanal, which this ship was sunk just after, coast the japanese both of their BBs, 1 cruiser, 3 DDs and 11 transpots sunk, the americans only lost 2 crusiers and 7 DDs sunk

[Vote2008]

Willis T. Bradshaw, RIP. My brother and sister lost their father on 11/13/42. It was my brother's fifth birthday when his father died at sea. Thank you for posting this video. Vote2008

[PANZER299]

hey furoranmage,how dare you say i ship is no big deal.your country was wiped out in a week by the germans.

[Furoranmage]

Btw sharks like white meat 0o

[Furoranmage]

Shit happens, a single ship is hardly a major loss.

[boriskascheeve]

Perhaps you don't understand the historical significance. Its because of this tragedy that brothers/sisters/family are not allowed to serve on the same ship, or detachments. Its also why if your an only child you usually don't get drafted. Hopefully you'll eventually see past your ignorance.

[grl8862]

So many stories of individual Warships and the Courage of their crews and sacrifice's made for our freedom we enjoy today.

God Bless them all. No doubt my time will come one day and I hope to meet and thank them all.

[Dem0nikk]

Could not have said it better and i too look forward to the day i can look them in the eye and say thank you.

[WhereEaglesDareUK]

Freedom Fighters.................

[BB2433]

Yes. I agree. Let them rest in peace. Both sinkings were a tragedy

[frankydman]

BB-37 BB-39 CA-26 CA-29 CA-30 CA-34CA-35 CA-39 CA-44 CL-50 CL-51 CL-52CV-2 CV-5 CV-7 CV-8 CVL-23 CVE-63CVE-73 DD-533 DD-557 DD-733 DE-413SS-238 PT-109 AO-59

This is only a small sample of American ships that gave the ultimate sacrifice to the war effort. For some, their crews were more fortunate than others. For others, the floating fortresses we call warships, became their final resting place

[ffej980]

i dont mean to diminish this video in any way...or disrespect it...but there were 37 pairs of brothers...and a father and son killed on the USS Arizona in Pearl Harbor...on December 7 1941...RIP and god bless the Sullivans...never forget

[cerraazizi]

At 2:34, there are 2 arrows pointing at something.Can anyone tell me what does the black arrow pointing at? Is it a Japanese plane? And the white arrow, is it a Japanese plane as well?

[ffej980]

that is a picture of a 5 inch gun turret blown in the air by the massive explosion of the USS Juneau's ammunition magazines...taken from a nearby navy ship

[cdfe3388]

There is a good book about the Juneau, appropriately titled "Left to Die".

[Vote2008]

OMG, that book was spellbinding and so horrible. The title tells it all. They were left to die. My brother and sister lost their father that day and it was my brother's fifth birthday.

[cdfe3388]

My friend's grandpa was on a destroyer sunk off Guadalcanal. He was in a group of survivors that swam to shore that night and collapsed on the beach, not realizing it was Japanese-held. That night, Japanese troops walked in and bayoneted dozens of unarmed, exhausted, burned, half-drowned men on that beach. The following morning, a Marine patrol found his grandpa and 4 or 5 other men still alive among 50 corpses. Even worse, he was a survivor of the USS Oklahoma who'd been reassigned.

[Dem0nikk]

Your friends grandpa is nothing short of a hero!!!!!!!

[frankydman]

I agree with you, but I dont think the veterans would. Sure, some veterans you could call a hero, but a veteran would say that the real heroes were those who never came home.

"Until one has given it all, one has given nothing" - Georges Guynemer, French WWI Ace KIA

[ffej980]

May God Bless The Crew Of The Juneau...and The Five Sullivan Brothers...They are remembered...and their loss will forever be a part of the history of WW2...time heals all wounds...

[hellcat3]

This prove once again the submarine was the most deadly and dangerous naval weapon of ww2.

[Exmech2]

Twas the Airplane...

[Boomer1947]

The 5 Sullian brothers from Waterloo, Iowa paid the ultimate price for our freedom

May we nevr forget

[cdfe3388]

"I know how empty must be any words of mine that seek to assuage the anguish of your bereavement, and I pray you take pride in having laid so costly a sacrifice upon the altar of freedom."

--Excerpt of a letter written by President Abraham Lincoln to a mother whose 4 sons were killed in action at the Battle of Antietam, 1863.

[Bullettube]

Good post. It should be mentioned that Admiral Halsey wanted to hang the admiral responsible for leaving the Juneau behind. Instead the admiral was quietly transferred to a desk job. The loss of the Juneau should never have had happened and the tragedy is all the more sorrowful because of it.

[Sammyoak]

They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:

Age shall not weary them, nor the years contemn.

At the going down of the sun and in the morning

We will remember them.

[serenity704]

my husband is on this ship. they call it the 'Black Pearl". It's definitely cursed. the ship's always breaking down, and whatever they do to fix it,it's never enough. they work my husband to death-really is the worst command i've ever seen! whatever you do,don't join the juenau!

[bloodlust85]

wow, looks intense.

1:12 is amazing

sux to be them