Rep. Garamendi: 'President... use the Constitution'

[ytgv3fc7]

@chiefkyle1 good luck. So far I have on good recommendation: Brazil, Norway, Germany, Australia and so far I'm seeing things are OK enough to stay in Canada (pending the Fukushima global fall-out for the Northern Hemisphere, so we'll see). People are already escaping with their cash & freedom & saying how happy they are about it (stormcloudsgathering, msungs, slobomotion, quite a few more if you ask around)

[ytgv3fc7]

"pool the pension funds, both public and private"

DID YA CATCH THAT?

Private retirement pensions, with no permission for the money to be confiscated, would be confiscated to spend as the government wants and then be called "infrastructure". It will just go to pay interest to China.

You heard it word for word. Ditch all your retirement cash, get it in gold & bury it. Use goldmoney.c om/related to store gold OVERSEAS and IMMIGRATE NOW.

Time to run from1936 Nazi Germany aka USSA. Run, rabbit, RUN

[ytgv3fc7]

@chiefkyle1 There's an easy way to ensure your children's children's children are not on the hook for the debt. Emigrate, give up US citizenship now.

[BrotherWoody1]

Raise the debt ceiling? The only people that will still profit are the military/industrial, congressional/banking complex who have already ruined the middle class & have impoverished our civil liberties. Obama along with the Dems & GOP know who butters their bread & it's the international banking & corporate monopolies that run the whole show. We already had their scheme for infrastructure & it was called the stimulus bill. To end this plunder of America, please consider Ron Paul in 2012.

[ImperatorKuzco]

'Other' subject is the key for understanding, what I meant.

[ImperatorKuzco]

'That is a whole other subject to talk about.' Well said, Lauren Lyster.

[ImperatorKuzco]

I have a word, that finds its existence in six letters. O t h e r s

[TorontoLibertarian]

This guy's got brain damage.

[Redfingers]

The purpose of that statement is to distinguish that debt from debt which is illegitimate, which is why it continues:

"neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States"

e.g: some debt is not legitimate, some debt is. That is the broad point of Section 4, and its purpose was to remove the obligation of the US to pay for the Confederate rebellion or any reparations towards slave owners.

[Redfingers]

Further, all Section 4 says to begin with is:

"Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. "

The public debt of the United States is valid, in other words. Which says absolutely nothing about the United States paying it, increasing it, whichever way. It just says it is legitimately debt.

[hiyukenmusic]

So if the President can borrow money via executive order, then what is the need for a Congress at all. This is the most stupid idea and the fact that this ditzy chick is thinking this is a good idea and giving soft ball questions of this guy proves her incompetence.

[hiyukenmusic]

Democrats you have to actually out game the Republicans. Advocate a replacement currency, printed by the Treasury but with dumb ass conversations like these do nothing but keep the American people in the left right jail cell.

[Redfingers]

First of all, Section 5 of the 14th says:

"Section 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article."

In other words the enforcement of the provisions are delegated to Congress, not the president.

Derpdoodleurp erp erp

What do you think Congress is doing? Writing legislation to raise the debt ceiling. Where does it say "The president has unilateral authority to arbitrate congressionally imposed debt limits"?

Oh right, it doesn't.

[hiyukenmusic]

US President using the Constitution to affect funding or spending??? ROTFLMAO!!!!! You jackasses; clearly you have no idea what is truly written within the Constitution. They are arguing for a dictatorship. DUMB FUCK!!

[Phelan666]

God, this woman cannot be allowed to fill in anymore. She is terrible, constantly cutting guests off. The main reason I watch Alyona in the first place is because she only cuts people short when they run out of air time.

lrn2journalism

[dfg93353]

The problem wi republicans is that they want to cut social spending fund unwinnable wars and protect the rich and wall street at all cost. The problem with the democrats is that they want to cut social spending fund unwinnable wars and protect the rich and wall street at all cost.

[Jyagos1]

HAAAAHAHAHA! If the President actually followed the Constitution, we wouldn't have the Patriot Act! Meanwhile, what rebellion or insurrection needs to be culled since the US has been bullying other countries, not on the receiving end?

[Phelan666]

I'm sorry to ruin your hopes and dreams, little boy, but the constitution is just a myth. Just like Santa Clause.

[helios5868]

The 14th amendment does not give the president any power. It guarantees our debt, but article 5 puts responsibility for it in congress. This guy is wrong, why aren't you calling him on it?

If I wanted to see a politician getting softballs, I'd watch CNN.

[judoyodan]

Garamendi is absolutely correct. It has been obvious from the start. This is an artificial crisis created by an unconstitutional statute. If you can read at a sixth grade level, then you can see that section 4 of the 14th amendment clearly trumps any artificial "debt ceiling."

All the theater is irrelevant.

[jw12yrsctch]

@judoyodan He will allow the default to make the GoP look bad, and then pull the 14th. Clinton part 2.

[judoyodan]

@jw12yrsctch, I doubt it. He will not allow default, but will take it to the edge.

[Redfingers]

@jw12yrsctch

lol you are retarded

everyone knows there will be no default and the entire issue was raised by the GOP in the first place

If Obama literally has the bill sitting on his desk and refuses to sign it, I guarantee you it will not be the GOP that "looks bad," the Obama administration will implode overnight and there will be no future for him.

[jw12yrsctch]

@Redfingers do you even know anything about politics? December 1995 ring a bell?

[Redfingers]

@jw12yrsctch

Enlighten me

[jw12yrsctch]

@Redfingers that's not my job, try learning for yourself, I'm not your Mom or teacher

[Redfingers]

@jw12yrsctch

Then fuck off, faggot.

What you told me tells me you're an idiot and don't understand the context of this argument, and no obscure, completely pointless reference to an event you're not willing to explain from 15 years ago is going to change that fact.

[jw12yrsctch]

@Redfingers So your Mom didn't help you I take it.

[Redfingers]

@jw12yrsctch

Nice argument chap

are you done baiting

[ytgv3fc7]

@Redfingers Smart people know there will be a default and it will be called money-printing. As the new dollars are issued the currency will collapse before the debts are paid, leaving those with gold rich & those with dollars absolutely dirt poor.

[Redfingers]

@ytgv3fc7

That's not a default, that's called inflation. And yes, it is a serious issue.

[ytgv3fc7]

@Redfingers That is a default, it's called hyperinflation. The printing won't work because the currency will be vaporized as it's used to pay those debts. The debt won't even get paid so that's why it's a default. It's nonsense to say hyper-printing is not default. It is default.

[Redfingers]

@ytgv3fc7

That is technically not a default.

The United States has a printing press to the world reserve currency. That's in addition to the fact that we are no where near tapped as far as revenue is concerned. Tax breaks are being handed out to multi billion dollar corporations like candy, and if you remember correctly, Congress just extended the Bush era tax cuts.

The idea that the United States was in danger of default was complete and utter bullshit, political theatre.

[ytgv3fc7]

@Redfingers Technically that's precisely a default. Failure to pay is default. Hyperinflation is failure to pay. And you're completely tapped for revenue. Flat out broke. We're talking TENS OF TRILLIONS not little tiny billions. The USA is in total danger of default. It's mathematically impossible to avoid it. A non-default requires NO HYPERINFLATION and BILLS PAID IN FULL. This can't be done. Carved in stone fact, as good as done.

[ytgv3fc7]

@Redfingers

ht tp://youtu.b e/AZUZ0kTiOF0?t=6m10s

now India is trading GOLD FOR OIL with Iran.

4 months later and the US dollar is on its way out in global trade. Russia, India, China, all making deals for global trade with no US dollars allowed/accepted.

The USA is in bigger danger now of default than EVER before.

Gold has no bubble. Gold is immune to bubbles. Only soft assets can be a bubble. HARD assets are simply the only value that ever existed.

PAPER has bubbles. GOLD can't.

[ytgv3fc7]

@Redfingers there are 3 ways to default and hyperinflation is one of them.

ht tp://youtu.be/AZUZ0kTiOF0?t=7m­34s

USA is 100% tapped on revenue now.

[rjcontra]

And if you believe this guy..then all you do is eat and sleep. You haven't done any studying yourself. You just take what you hear and believe it. WAKE UP!!

[jw12yrsctch]

@rjcontra I know how to read, and since I do, I know you are just talking shit and can't read yourself. Try reading the 14th.

[rjcontra]

Democrats and Republicans will be standing together in the soup lines. So quit bashing each other. Can't you see you are all being taken. We are all going to be in the same boat. It's our government not one party. Get your household ready.

[wasy35]

Why do I dislike all politicians?

[rjcontra]

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[safewaysecurity]

Ewww Garamendi is my Rep and he SUCKS!

[Y0UT00B3R1]

Well, ain't this a typical, heapin' pile of stankin'-ass RTДмзя1кд hypocrisy...

Spend +10:oomins reporting on the very SAME "political theatre", "he-said-she-said" debt crisis coverage; complete with an interview of some congressional nobody, live-and-direct from the belly of the beast; which you JUST finished bashing in both yesterday AND today's Mainstream Miss segments??

[Y0UT00B3R1]

...You have a running calendar on AVTM, and a fucking countdown clock with a burning American flag on your fucking "news"??

What the fuck, yo?!