Oh, what a surprise: I have just noticed they made a remake on this for German TV... (And no writing credits for Richard Curtis in the German version as fas as I can see.) I do not need to stress out that I would always prefer Bill Nighy to Jan Josef Liefers!
I have to agree with teasymphony. This is one of the most vile threads I've ever seen, as well, and I only read the first page. But back to the video. This is a gem of a film. MacDonald and Nighy are wonderful together, and heartrending.
Wow, this has to be the most hostile Youtube thread I've ever seen. Why can't you guys just appreciate the film instead of trying to get a rise out of eachother? It's exhausting.
I can't get over how brilliant Kelly and Bill are together. I'd love to see them opposite eachother in another film.
BayouChick... well done for your demolition of the supreme idiot MickBelcker... possibly the single best example yet of why so many people worldwide dislike Americans.
As a Scotsman I have a profound appreciation and respect for the American people but like you I utterly condemn the abhorent, disgraceful and damaging actions of the Bush regime. They have the blood of so many innocents on their hands and have the sickening nerve to use the deaths of so many on 9/11 as their justification.
I don't personally feel the need, but as another American, allow me to apologize for Belcker's loud-mouthed, abrasive stupidity. Not all of us are like that. And yes, this is a wonderful film.
let me apologize for themality....the spineless kiss ass liberal. True to their self-loathing, guilt ridden, they love anything that puts their country and their fellow citizens down. But I bet you dollars to donuts though he spews his liberal guilt, he doesn't give a dime to any charity. The poor don't need bread when they can feed on his guilt. His liberal guilt will fill their hungry stomachs
I understand your frustration when being confronted with bigotry against us, however I disagree with your analysis calling Richard Curtis a hatemonger. That's not the case, he doesn't hate Americans, just dislikes US foreign policy. The rest of the world is tired of USA foreign policy and Americans are fed up with it as well. The film is not anti-American anymore than it's anti any other G8 country.
The terrorists gave the same justification when they killed 3,000 of our citizens. To which Richard Curtis called the attacks - "Proof that Love is all around Us" THAT IS HATE! Don't sit there and justify it. That makes you as filthy as he is. And in terms of 3rd Europe colonized them for centuries, and brought slavery to America, they bear a greater burden for the world's problems.
Yes you're right about Europe colonizing for centuries. But we were free from them in the late 1700's - after winning our independence it was our responsibility to stop slavery, but it wasn't until after that civil war that happened. Yes I agree the proof love is all around us bullshit comment was in poor taste. But by criticizing foreign policy of one country, I do NOT approve of terrorist attacks, I never have. Don't accuse me of that because it's untrue
See there again you are lying. Half the country had outlawed slavery BEFORE the civil war. You are one of those haters that just points out everything America did wrong. No wonder you defend Curtis' bigotry.
And you use this "foreign policy" smokescreen to justify your hate just like the terrorists. Maybe you are not driven to that extreme but you are feeding into their frenzy. People like you may not light the fuse but you fan the flames
You are the one lying here - I do NOT hate anyone or anything. Arrogant "my country's better than the world" people like you are the ones who piss off the world and create terrorists. The only hate and bigotry is coming from you. You use a movie clip to preach your hate. You need psych help.
"people like you are the ones who piss off the world and create terrorists"
Oh so now it is ok to murder 3,000 people because someone from a country said something you didn't like on Youtube. I am not preaching hate. I am denouncing it and you are DEFENDING hatred and terrorist acts. You in my opinion are sick
NO I AM NOT DEFENDING!!! 9/11 was WRONG, and sick demented pieces of trash pulled it off. They deserve hell for what they did. BUT since 9/11 can you honestly justify over one million deaths?!
1 milllion??? - There you go again. Not one single International agency has ever said that American soldiers have killed 1 million people in Iraq or Afghanistan - Here it comes all the resentment and hate for American all the lies people like you spew. No wonder you love terrorists and Richard Curtis. You left America -GOOD - STAY OUT! Who needs you
I've said it once I'll say it again - I don't hate!! You are the one who hates me for disagreeing with you. Arrogant bitter people such as yourself is what the USA does not need. Refer to my previous comment
It seems to me by your aggressive bitter tone you are the one who hates. If I'm wrong my apologies but you do give that impression. I'm not defending hate - I'm saying I do not see it displayed in this movie.
You launch into personal attacks because I disagree with you and I am the one who is bitter. I am the one who hates. Yeah sure twist things around after you are on here spewing pro-terrorist shit and you anti-american filth
I'm not attacking you! I'm disagreeing, 2 different things. I am not pro-terrorist!! I have said many times in previous comments those 9/11 hijackers are scum - NOTHING justifies that type of violence against innocents. I'm only saying I do not see bigotry in this film.
"NOTHING justifies that type of violence against innocents."
Read back your own words -- "People like you are why the world...blah blah blah...foreign policy...blah blah blah" The same excuses the terrorist gave. You're in the same but honey. Maybe you aren't there yet. But let your hate fester a few years. They though America was the root of all evil too. Just like you
And you come on here with a ready mad shopping list of grievances against all who want to discuss opposing views. I don't have anything in common with terrorists but you do - wanting to troll and flame others who ARE SIMPLY SAYING THEY DO NOT SEE HATE ANYWHERE IN THIS MOVIE. You are a troll
And we have come to the "I know you are but what am I" chidish retorts. I've had enough of you sleazy hatred, and your childish tantrums for one night.
Well fine call me all the dirty names you want. Either way it's a waste of time debating with you, go ahead and hate me all you want but I don't hate you. I feel sorry for you. Have a nice night.
Who was it that enslaved the entire 3rd world - EUROPE. America had no part in slavery anymore than Brazil or Jamaica was responsible for it. We were a European Colony and the Euros dumped it on us. America had no colonies in the developing world. And we currently give more aid than Europe gives. But Richard Curtis still has to point the finger of blame on America. You Euros are such f*cking hypocrits. You don't want to deal with the mess you made of this world
I love the way people say 'us' and 'we' when they refer to events, hundreds of years before they were born. The plight of someoene today is always the fault of some long forgotten catalyst which is the reason for x, y or z today.
1. I don't believe that on any level, Bill Nighy's character is protrayed as dirty. Kelly Macdonald's character pursues him when it comes to having sex.
2. Have you ever stopped to think that maybe the US deserves to be the subject of such commentary?
3. Neither of the characters are married, so how is that adultery?
"Have you ever stopped to think that maybe the US deserves to be the subject of such commentary?"
Ever stop and think that you are a fucking idiot and maybe you should think for yourself instead of getting all your ideas from a movie. Especially one that is made by an anti-american hate monger. Unless of course your goal is to become a hate-monger, then I'd say you were on the right track.
I didn't see Bill Nighy's character as being the least bit of a dirty old man. As for the anti-American theme? I think that this was more anti-bureaucricy than anti-American. This is one of my favorite movies of all time...perhaps because I lived in Iceland for four years....and did business in Reykjavik for three years after that...
I agree. The movie is mostly about first world countries having some compassion and helping out less-fortunate countries. It isn't anti-anything really except anti-poverty. It's pro-compassion.
As one who proudly proclaims themselves an ex-pat, you are hardly an impartial opinion, having already acknowledged you hatred towards the US. So it is only natural you would defend this bigot and hate monger.
But I am suprised as a woman that you would not find the pedophelic themes that run through his movies offensive. Rich powerful men and submissive young women GAG!
I've said nowhere that I hate any country - I don't. This guy doesn't hate anyone, he never said he did. This is my opinion - women aren't victims unless they allow themselves to be. Lawrence is hardly a victimizer in this movie. Gina is no victim.
Do you know Richard Curtis personally? Then how can you say the he doesn't hate anyone. Every movie he makes he has negative portrayals of Americans. Never a word of criticism about any other country or culture. I'd say that is hate. And women in most of his pictures are always subordinate and weak.
Are you in the habit of defending creeps like this?
No I don't, I've seen some of his films but in here (girl in cafe movie) I'm saying I just don't see any hate, only discussion. Lots of American movies portray other nationalities negatively. Yes Curtis' movies have negative portrayals, but not just of Americans.
and furthermore lots of other countries have done lots of wrong, I'm not saying just USA has. If slavery had been outlawed by the ENTIRE country the civil war would not have happened. YOU are the one who made it all about the USA, which is why we;re discussing it now.
Because the subject is Richard Curtis' Anti-American bigotry and you come on her defending him. Which you take as an opportunity to blame America for all the evils of the world, like every other hater on the internet. It doesn't take much to bring the hate to the surface does it???
I'm not defending anything - I'm simply saying I don't see any hate in this movie! I'm not blaming the USA For all the evils in the world. I'm not a hater, I HATE NOTHING. Seems to me you are the one with hate. I don't have hate for anyone. I tried to have an adult discussion with you and you go batshit crazy and aggressive so it's clear you're incapable of debate. If Curtis is an anti-American bigot oh well that's his problem - I don't know for sure. I'm just saying I don't see hate here
That's right I go batshit - I confront hatred because 3,000 of my fellow citizens are dead, for the same supposed reasons you give to defend your hatred of your former country. You can wrap it in a bow but at the end of the day all you haters belong in the same place.
yes, haters such as yourself. I can't stand the scum who pulled off 9/11!!! Fuck them! I grieved (3,000 victims) their loss just like you did that day but it's 8 years later - Iraq had nothing to do with it and look that country is destroyed!
So now you are off on Iraq. What does that have to do with the film?? OUt of nowhere you bring that up with some ridiculous casaulty numbers you probably got off one of you anti american web-site. But oh no YOU'RE NOT A HATER. Like hell you aren't
Well out of nowhere you bring up slavery! You're hating me for disagreeing with you and accusing me of loving terorrists and hating the USA, a country I was born and raised in. I LOVE my home country, I just hate what's being done to it by our leadership!
EXCUSE ME - BUSH STARTED TERRORISM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do you know how many thousand people were killed by terrorists before he ever got in office, before 9-11. Oh you are nothing but a stinking hater. You are a hundred percent one of those hate American first bigots. Go drown in your hate you piece of crap.
You prove my point. The people who defend Richard Curtis' bigotry are all a bunch of haters.
YOu're the hater here. Bush started two wars. We could have just bombed the shit out of OBL's hideout and been done with it. YOU are hating here. You go drown in your hate you arrogant ignorant fucktard
I agree. She's beautiful in a minimalist sort of way. Her beauty isn't blatantly obvious at first, but over time she becomes extremely attractive. She's a fantastic actress as well.
Oh, what a surprise: I have just noticed they made a remake on this for German TV... (And no writing credits for Richard Curtis in the German version as fas as I can see.) I do not need to stress out that I would always prefer Bill Nighy to Jan Josef Liefers!
lapislazuli7 2 years ago
you retards stop arguing about Bush and notice that this movie is fantastic
WKaliberr 2 years ago 6
Ignore the trolls people. Enjoy Kelly and Bill.
jammsbro 2 years ago 8
I have to agree with teasymphony. This is one of the most vile threads I've ever seen, as well, and I only read the first page. But back to the video. This is a gem of a film. MacDonald and Nighy are wonderful together, and heartrending.
mythcrusher 2 years ago
Wow, this has to be the most hostile Youtube thread I've ever seen. Why can't you guys just appreciate the film instead of trying to get a rise out of eachother? It's exhausting.
I can't get over how brilliant Kelly and Bill are together. I'd love to see them opposite eachother in another film.
teasymphony 2 years ago 8
They played together in the mini series of State of play. Great movie.
ILoveTobin 2 years ago
BayouChick... well done for your demolition of the supreme idiot MickBelcker... possibly the single best example yet of why so many people worldwide dislike Americans.
As a Scotsman I have a profound appreciation and respect for the American people but like you I utterly condemn the abhorent, disgraceful and damaging actions of the Bush regime. They have the blood of so many innocents on their hands and have the sickening nerve to use the deaths of so many on 9/11 as their justification.
ptdoug 2 years ago
I don't personally feel the need, but as another American, allow me to apologize for Belcker's loud-mouthed, abrasive stupidity. Not all of us are like that. And yes, this is a wonderful film.
thermality 3 years ago
let me apologize for themality....the spineless kiss ass liberal. True to their self-loathing, guilt ridden, they love anything that puts their country and their fellow citizens down. But I bet you dollars to donuts though he spews his liberal guilt, he doesn't give a dime to any charity. The poor don't need bread when they can feed on his guilt. His liberal guilt will fill their hungry stomachs
MickBelcker 3 years ago
I understand your frustration when being confronted with bigotry against us, however I disagree with your analysis calling Richard Curtis a hatemonger. That's not the case, he doesn't hate Americans, just dislikes US foreign policy. The rest of the world is tired of USA foreign policy and Americans are fed up with it as well. The film is not anti-American anymore than it's anti any other G8 country.
BayouChick31 2 years ago
"just dislikes US foreign policy"
The terrorists gave the same justification when they killed 3,000 of our citizens. To which Richard Curtis called the attacks - "Proof that Love is all around Us" THAT IS HATE! Don't sit there and justify it. That makes you as filthy as he is. And in terms of 3rd Europe colonized them for centuries, and brought slavery to America, they bear a greater burden for the world's problems.
MickBelcker 2 years ago
Yes you're right about Europe colonizing for centuries. But we were free from them in the late 1700's - after winning our independence it was our responsibility to stop slavery, but it wasn't until after that civil war that happened. Yes I agree the proof love is all around us bullshit comment was in poor taste. But by criticizing foreign policy of one country, I do NOT approve of terrorist attacks, I never have. Don't accuse me of that because it's untrue
BayouChick31 2 years ago
See there again you are lying. Half the country had outlawed slavery BEFORE the civil war. You are one of those haters that just points out everything America did wrong. No wonder you defend Curtis' bigotry.
And you use this "foreign policy" smokescreen to justify your hate just like the terrorists. Maybe you are not driven to that extreme but you are feeding into their frenzy. People like you may not light the fuse but you fan the flames
MickBelcker 2 years ago
You are the one lying here - I do NOT hate anyone or anything. Arrogant "my country's better than the world" people like you are the ones who piss off the world and create terrorists. The only hate and bigotry is coming from you. You use a movie clip to preach your hate. You need psych help.
BayouChick31 2 years ago
"people like you are the ones who piss off the world and create terrorists"
Oh so now it is ok to murder 3,000 people because someone from a country said something you didn't like on Youtube. I am not preaching hate. I am denouncing it and you are DEFENDING hatred and terrorist acts. You in my opinion are sick
MickBelcker 2 years ago
NO I AM NOT DEFENDING!!! 9/11 was WRONG, and sick demented pieces of trash pulled it off. They deserve hell for what they did. BUT since 9/11 can you honestly justify over one million deaths?!
BayouChick31 2 years ago
1 milllion??? - There you go again. Not one single International agency has ever said that American soldiers have killed 1 million people in Iraq or Afghanistan - Here it comes all the resentment and hate for American all the lies people like you spew. No wonder you love terrorists and Richard Curtis. You left America -GOOD - STAY OUT! Who needs you
MickBelcker 2 years ago
I've said it once I'll say it again - I don't hate!! You are the one who hates me for disagreeing with you. Arrogant bitter people such as yourself is what the USA does not need. Refer to my previous comment
BayouChick31 2 years ago
Oh I denounce hatred - So I am the hater. You come on here and defend it, and that makes you a great person. You are one sick twisted person.
MickBelcker 2 years ago
It seems to me by your aggressive bitter tone you are the one who hates. If I'm wrong my apologies but you do give that impression. I'm not defending hate - I'm saying I do not see it displayed in this movie.
BayouChick31 2 years ago
You launch into personal attacks because I disagree with you and I am the one who is bitter. I am the one who hates. Yeah sure twist things around after you are on here spewing pro-terrorist shit and you anti-american filth
MickBelcker 2 years ago
I'm not attacking you! I'm disagreeing, 2 different things. I am not pro-terrorist!! I have said many times in previous comments those 9/11 hijackers are scum - NOTHING justifies that type of violence against innocents. I'm only saying I do not see bigotry in this film.
BayouChick31 2 years ago
"NOTHING justifies that type of violence against innocents."
Read back your own words -- "People like you are why the world...blah blah blah...foreign policy...blah blah blah" The same excuses the terrorist gave. You're in the same but honey. Maybe you aren't there yet. But let your hate fester a few years. They though America was the root of all evil too. Just like you
MickBelcker 2 years ago
You can disagree without resorting to violence. I never said OR meant America is the root of all evil.
BayouChick31 2 years ago
No you just came on here with a ready mad shopping list of grievances against America. Something else you have in common with the terrorists
MickBelcker 2 years ago
And you come on here with a ready mad shopping list of grievances against all who want to discuss opposing views. I don't have anything in common with terrorists but you do - wanting to troll and flame others who ARE SIMPLY SAYING THEY DO NOT SEE HATE ANYWHERE IN THIS MOVIE. You are a troll
BayouChick31 2 years ago
And we have come to the "I know you are but what am I" chidish retorts. I've had enough of you sleazy hatred, and your childish tantrums for one night.
MickBelcker 2 years ago
And i have had enough of yours
BayouChick31 2 years ago
calling people bitter is not a personal attack. You are such a liar, I don't think you have the capacity to tell the truth
MickBelcker 2 years ago
Well fine call me all the dirty names you want. Either way it's a waste of time debating with you, go ahead and hate me all you want but I don't hate you. I feel sorry for you. Have a nice night.
BayouChick31 2 years ago
Yeah just stay the hell whereever you are. You are so proud you left america - good. Stay the hell out
MickBelcker 2 years ago
There isn't a word dirty enough for a hater like you.
MickBelcker 2 years ago
shut up fucking american..
WillSmith1643 3 years ago
Go to hell you itallian turd
MickBelcker 3 years ago
Shut up fucking hater!
BayouChick31 2 years ago
Who was it that enslaved the entire 3rd world - EUROPE. America had no part in slavery anymore than Brazil or Jamaica was responsible for it. We were a European Colony and the Euros dumped it on us. America had no colonies in the developing world. And we currently give more aid than Europe gives. But Richard Curtis still has to point the finger of blame on America. You Euros are such f*cking hypocrits. You don't want to deal with the mess you made of this world
MickBelcker 3 years ago
I love the way people say 'us' and 'we' when they refer to events, hundreds of years before they were born. The plight of someoene today is always the fault of some long forgotten catalyst which is the reason for x, y or z today.
cillablackslingback 3 years ago
where is the gay asian from the other video??????
WillSmith1643 3 years ago
richard curtis' movies always have 3 main themes.
1 a dirty old man involved with a young girl
2 anti-american bigotry
3 adultry
MickBelcker 3 years ago
Bugger off then.
prittee1 3 years ago
1. I don't believe that on any level, Bill Nighy's character is protrayed as dirty. Kelly Macdonald's character pursues him when it comes to having sex.
2. Have you ever stopped to think that maybe the US deserves to be the subject of such commentary?
3. Neither of the characters are married, so how is that adultery?
genoise3 3 years ago
"Have you ever stopped to think that maybe the US deserves to be the subject of such commentary?"
Ever stop and think that you are a fucking idiot and maybe you should think for yourself instead of getting all your ideas from a movie. Especially one that is made by an anti-american hate monger. Unless of course your goal is to become a hate-monger, then I'd say you were on the right track.
MickBelcker 3 years ago
I didn't see Bill Nighy's character as being the least bit of a dirty old man. As for the anti-American theme? I think that this was more anti-bureaucricy than anti-American. This is one of my favorite movies of all time...perhaps because I lived in Iceland for four years....and did business in Reykjavik for three years after that...
d0lphint0m 3 years ago
I agree. The movie is mostly about first world countries having some compassion and helping out less-fortunate countries. It isn't anti-anything really except anti-poverty. It's pro-compassion.
BayouChick31 2 years ago
As one who proudly proclaims themselves an ex-pat, you are hardly an impartial opinion, having already acknowledged you hatred towards the US. So it is only natural you would defend this bigot and hate monger.
But I am suprised as a woman that you would not find the pedophelic themes that run through his movies offensive. Rich powerful men and submissive young women GAG!
MickBelcker 2 years ago
I've said nowhere that I hate any country - I don't. This guy doesn't hate anyone, he never said he did. This is my opinion - women aren't victims unless they allow themselves to be. Lawrence is hardly a victimizer in this movie. Gina is no victim.
BayouChick31 2 years ago
Do you know Richard Curtis personally? Then how can you say the he doesn't hate anyone. Every movie he makes he has negative portrayals of Americans. Never a word of criticism about any other country or culture. I'd say that is hate. And women in most of his pictures are always subordinate and weak.
Are you in the habit of defending creeps like this?
MickBelcker 2 years ago
No I don't, I've seen some of his films but in here (girl in cafe movie) I'm saying I just don't see any hate, only discussion. Lots of American movies portray other nationalities negatively. Yes Curtis' movies have negative portrayals, but not just of Americans.
BayouChick31 2 years ago
"Yes Curtis' movies have negative portrayals, but not just of Americans."
Name one you liar. Go ahead and name one.
MickBelcker 2 years ago
For example here this movie - ALL the G8 country representatives are being portrayed negatively. As arrogant and uncaring about the 3rd world
BayouChick31 2 years ago
None of them is portrayed as uncaring as the Americans. The rest at least act like they want to help. Stop defending this bigotry.
MickBelcker 2 years ago
and furthermore lots of other countries have done lots of wrong, I'm not saying just USA has. If slavery had been outlawed by the ENTIRE country the civil war would not have happened. YOU are the one who made it all about the USA, which is why we;re discussing it now.
BayouChick31 2 years ago
Because the subject is Richard Curtis' Anti-American bigotry and you come on her defending him. Which you take as an opportunity to blame America for all the evils of the world, like every other hater on the internet. It doesn't take much to bring the hate to the surface does it???
MickBelcker 2 years ago
I'm not defending anything - I'm simply saying I don't see any hate in this movie! I'm not blaming the USA For all the evils in the world. I'm not a hater, I HATE NOTHING. Seems to me you are the one with hate. I don't have hate for anyone. I tried to have an adult discussion with you and you go batshit crazy and aggressive so it's clear you're incapable of debate. If Curtis is an anti-American bigot oh well that's his problem - I don't know for sure. I'm just saying I don't see hate here
BayouChick31 2 years ago
That's right I go batshit - I confront hatred because 3,000 of my fellow citizens are dead, for the same supposed reasons you give to defend your hatred of your former country. You can wrap it in a bow but at the end of the day all you haters belong in the same place.
MickBelcker 2 years ago
yes, haters such as yourself. I can't stand the scum who pulled off 9/11!!! Fuck them! I grieved (3,000 victims) their loss just like you did that day but it's 8 years later - Iraq had nothing to do with it and look that country is destroyed!
BayouChick31 2 years ago
So now you are off on Iraq. What does that have to do with the film?? OUt of nowhere you bring that up with some ridiculous casaulty numbers you probably got off one of you anti american web-site. But oh no YOU'RE NOT A HATER. Like hell you aren't
MickBelcker 2 years ago
Well out of nowhere you bring up slavery! You're hating me for disagreeing with you and accusing me of loving terorrists and hating the USA, a country I was born and raised in. I LOVE my home country, I just hate what's being done to it by our leadership!
BayouChick31 2 years ago
Oh you don't like Obama either. So you're a racist, a bigot and a hater.
MickBelcker 2 years ago
WTF?!?!?! Bush started all this shit, Obama inherited the mess. Actually I feel sorry for the guy
BayouChick31 2 years ago
Bush started all this shit
EXCUSE ME - BUSH STARTED TERRORISM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do you know how many thousand people were killed by terrorists before he ever got in office, before 9-11. Oh you are nothing but a stinking hater. You are a hundred percent one of those hate American first bigots. Go drown in your hate you piece of crap.
You prove my point. The people who defend Richard Curtis' bigotry are all a bunch of haters.
MickBelcker 2 years ago
YOu're the hater here. Bush started two wars. We could have just bombed the shit out of OBL's hideout and been done with it. YOU are hating here. You go drown in your hate you arrogant ignorant fucktard
BayouChick31 2 years ago
where was the adultery in this film?
mobweak 3 years ago
Anyone that know me. knows that Kelly is me future ex wife!
Thanks for posting.. Very good and important film!
Celticstrat 3 years ago
I agree. She's beautiful in a minimalist sort of way. Her beauty isn't blatantly obvious at first, but over time she becomes extremely attractive. She's a fantastic actress as well.
amadrienia 3 years ago 2