OH Yeah also the statement about putting a systema 1 piece hop up system inside this kwa is completely WRONG. You cannot install a 1 piece hop up system without EXTREME modification to the body of the gun because the body is design specifically for a 2 piece hop up system and will not open and cannot open by sliding forward the top reciever.
lol tell ya the truth the hop up system itself doesn't need to be changed at all lol. There is truely NOTHING wrong with having a plastic hop up chamber. Just roll with a SCS hop up nub for evike and a systema hop up bucking and your total is 11 bucks YAY!!!
The best hop up unit would be a promy hop up unit with a SCS nub at evike, and a systema hop up bucking. MAKE DANG SURE IT IS A FLAT ONE WITH THE SCS hop up nub!!!! You can use a kwa 2GX bucking but its not recommended with the SCS nub.
no no no, the Kwa SR12 or any Kwa for that matter cannot accept a one piece hop up because the metal body which is designed around the 2 piece hop up. All G&G Armalite guns have bodies that are designed around 1 piece hop up designs so it will accept any 1 piece hop up like your systema hop up. Shadow, was incorrect when he said that you can put a systema hop up in, you would need a whole entire new upper reciever for that to happen.
oh well you need to put periods in where they are supposed to be because i had no idea what you were talking about. and since that is what you were talking about than i guess they are even. i had bad experience with my G&G but some people say good things about them. The KWA was pretty good though
Um correction, how about you not be a dick for no reason. first off, the reason i listed both is because some people don't like 6.01s and will only go with a 6.03. second if EDGI even makes a 6.03 then its fucking hard to find and the promy is perfectly fine. It probably is a better fit too because it was really hard to properly fit the EDGI and the 2g bucking into the hop up. Fuck You.
The reason why somepeople say it won't fit the 2G bucking is due to the fact that they didn't get the Kwa version. By the way, you can order a EDGI off of their sight, and no the promy is not a better fit due to the new hop up C clip which has been beefed up to reduced even more air loss. I am just saying that you don't really know which ones work and don't work properly with the new guns. Yours is still an old generation gun and will accept promy no problem. Never knew you were such a dick
sorry there is all a misunderstanding. i had know idea that the new hop up had a different design. i had tried a promy in my old version and it fit fine. and sorry for the vulgar language. you know all the pricks on youtube with their smart ass comments (like myself at times when i am pissed off at their smart ass comments.) and i forgot your name and thought you were just another one of them. i thought your "um correction" was like a 13 year old trying to show off...
Lol its cool, but yeah talked to Allen and he said Kwa might be hiring another company to make some new barrels for them :D See ya on the forums ;) O yeah for 2010, you might want to save some cash up and not buy anything for a while, the new products list is well, going to dry up a millionare's bank account :)
Just to clarify on the "Airsoftgi's is 395" that's because it's a completely different gun all together.
They fixed the RIS wobble, and barrel wobble as you described, but one HUGE difference is that it's the 09 models (specifically the Generation 3, yours is a 2) the Gen 3's has a new finish to it that makes it more grayish and also fixed the major flaw that the trigger post broke with the Gen 1 and 2's, and the gearbox was prone to cracking.
Just to clarify your statement the trigger problem has already been fixed for 09' Kwa 1.75v gearbox M4 and M16 models so they weren't "just" fixed but have been fixed for the last 8 months.
Really, because when I called KWA's customer service talking about how my trigger post broke, they told me the newer models (Gen 3) would fix that problem, and the Gen 2 and 1 still had them.
When they say Gen 2 and Gen 1, they mean the Gen 2s with the gearbox v1.5. And of course the older models had even older gen gearboxes. The new current 09 Gen 2s feature gearbox V1.75 which has the trigger problem taken care of. Wait a second... aren't you rex from the kwa forums???? Its wintersx866 :D
dude you can't use a different hop up system unless you swap out the air nozzle on the Kwa gearbox. Kwa air nozzles are NOT TM hop up systems which a lot of peeps get wrong and say that they are. You must swap out the air nozzle for the systema hop up system to work.
Great review, i dont really see how this is a "DMR" all it has added on is the RIS, not a barrel upgrade to like 6.04 or 6.03. But nice move getting the TBB.
o yeah, I bought this gun also in Evike, really its awesome, I can shoot a target in a distance about
50 m with accurancy, I think the Maximum Range of this gun is about 70 m, without a awesome accurancy, but I think u have about 70 % to hit at that distance. I dont change the hop up, it works well. Happy Independence day USA people. XD
yeah i couldn't get the systema hop up to work and i tried the hop up bucking but it is kind of too big ti fit in the hop up. i will try it again with a lot of lube and see if i can shove it in there. if you are still interested message me in a day or two and and i will tell you if i could get it to work.
im about to get that exact gun but what cind of battery connector dose it have small or large for a stabdard bettery not a li poly i have a 9.6 3600mah with a large connector would it work????
if you were to use a 5.56mm round you take down to people technically the person that got shot and the person pulling him to safety.
also, in some cases it has been reported that some 5.56mm rounds have bounced off of multiple bones causing severe damage to organs. The 7.92 round will just plain out blow you away though.
I wish that that they would just get rid of that useless 5.56mm round! Nothing against AR 15s in general just the round is awful!!! My favorite AR 15 doesnt even shoot a 5.56 it shoots a 9mm. Look up COLT 635....KWA, is a beast company though!!!
The colt 635 looks cool though. I know its crap, it wasnt my first choice either as a gun foor our airsoft team. But we wanted different guns and I came to like it. Also a 7.62 could easily take down any piece of crap 5.56 firing crap gun! A 5.56, cant pierce light armor! I hate all the people who keep buyign AR 15s they look like crap and are crap. You can find much better 5.56mm firing guns! But why would you accuracy has never been the key to wining battle, its all about first shot takedowns
Who cares if the 7.62 has more power. Just cause its a 5.56 doesn't mean it cant do damage. Also, it doesn't need to be able to pierce armor, its not like every enemy will be carrying armor. If they are, then go for the head. The ar-15's design is great and it performs excellent. I am sorry but after reading your comment, it doesn't seem like you have much knowledge about firearms or have ever even fired a gun. The ar-15 series has been around for 40+ years and it will continue serving our wars.
I have alot of knowledge about firearms. You dont have to shoot a gun to know alot, my friend has shot many many guns and he still calls a magazine, a clip! The Nato has been discuraged for many years now, the government is looking to change the round, there coming out with somee round I forgot what it is but its a 6.something......The AK keeps winning against AR rifles! A 5.45mis much better than a 5.56. Too many guns use the same round, everybody who gets shot by a 5.56mm gets back up.
i have to disagree with what you said about the kwa m16 vs. the G&G counterpart. The G&G has a much nicer and more realistic body. At comes stock with a 100 spring. Which i will soon upgrade to a 120 spring. Everything is else is still stock except for my o-ring. After shooting my friends upgraded kwa m16. He has exactly everything u have. Except for the battery. He has a lipo. The rof isnt to much higher and my G&G shoots way more accurate.
Hang on i was just talking to a guy from airsoft gi because i wanted to get a new hopup and he said dont replace the hop up because it is set for the gun itself.?? Can you tell me if the hop up has helped at all?
they both have different pros and cons. The ris has a PEQ Box but the S System has flip up sites and doesn't have a PEQ Box. It really all comes down to looks and the PEQ box
If you want a sturdy barrel get an ak not m series, the ak barrels go all the way through the gun so if you get a metal ak nothing compares!!!
SnowBroProductions 1 year ago
How much so and weapon?
Mrkaramanli033 1 year ago
350 bucks?? yeah... NOT!
thetrumpetguy14 1 year ago
can u watch my vid i need help with my kwa and the vid shows the problems
W0RSTN1T3MAR3 1 year ago
Don't diss G&G. My G&G scar l CQC can easily outrange a kwa sr-12. When both guns are stock.
ekem13 1 year ago
yea it can i have this gun it is amazing i have a lipo in mine it is very fast it speeds up. this gun is well worth the money.
VancouverTactical 1 year ago
but what made it soooo custom?
TheFinalFrame 1 year ago
So you are stuck with the hop up that is already in the gun? PS Where do you buy your parts?
aidanzilla 1 year ago
could this gun hold up to a lithium batttery
predalien1413 2 years ago
thats what its made for
shadow99reviews 2 years ago
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YasharWTF 2 years ago
OH Yeah also the statement about putting a systema 1 piece hop up system inside this kwa is completely WRONG. You cannot install a 1 piece hop up system without EXTREME modification to the body of the gun because the body is design specifically for a 2 piece hop up system and will not open and cannot open by sliding forward the top reciever.
DeltaWinters88 2 years ago
Wait, what gun are you waiting for, cause if it is a Kwa gun, I can give you the price tag nearly instantly :D
DeltaWinters88 2 years ago
Indeed it is :D Hope I helped ya out :)
DeltaWinters88 2 years ago
yes it is indeed :D
DeltaWinters88 2 years ago
lol tell ya the truth the hop up system itself doesn't need to be changed at all lol. There is truely NOTHING wrong with having a plastic hop up chamber. Just roll with a SCS hop up nub for evike and a systema hop up bucking and your total is 11 bucks YAY!!!
DeltaWinters88 2 years ago
Both. They give you a large connector with a small to large adapter so don't worry :D
DeltaWinters88 2 years ago
The best hop up unit would be a promy hop up unit with a SCS nub at evike, and a systema hop up bucking. MAKE DANG SURE IT IS A FLAT ONE WITH THE SCS hop up nub!!!! You can use a kwa 2GX bucking but its not recommended with the SCS nub.
DeltaWinters88 2 years ago
large but it comes with a large to small connector
shadow99reviews 2 years ago
no no no, the Kwa SR12 or any Kwa for that matter cannot accept a one piece hop up because the metal body which is designed around the 2 piece hop up. All G&G Armalite guns have bodies that are designed around 1 piece hop up designs so it will accept any 1 piece hop up like your systema hop up. Shadow, was incorrect when he said that you can put a systema hop up in, you would need a whole entire new upper reciever for that to happen.
DeltaWinters88 2 years ago
hmm. im not sure. you will have to ask someone who owns one
shadow99reviews 2 years ago
oh well you need to put periods in where they are supposed to be because i had no idea what you were talking about. and since that is what you were talking about than i guess they are even. i had bad experience with my G&G but some people say good things about them. The KWA was pretty good though
shadow99reviews 2 years ago
prometheus for 6.03
EDGI for 6.01
and what is a G&G 6035
shadow99reviews 2 years ago
Um correction, EDGI 6.03 is better than a promy 6.03 cause a promy is not meant for the new Kwa Hop up systems which you don't have ;)
DeltaWinters88 2 years ago
Um correction, how about you not be a dick for no reason. first off, the reason i listed both is because some people don't like 6.01s and will only go with a 6.03. second if EDGI even makes a 6.03 then its fucking hard to find and the promy is perfectly fine. It probably is a better fit too because it was really hard to properly fit the EDGI and the 2g bucking into the hop up. Fuck You.
shadow99reviews 2 years ago
The reason why somepeople say it won't fit the 2G bucking is due to the fact that they didn't get the Kwa version. By the way, you can order a EDGI off of their sight, and no the promy is not a better fit due to the new hop up C clip which has been beefed up to reduced even more air loss. I am just saying that you don't really know which ones work and don't work properly with the new guns. Yours is still an old generation gun and will accept promy no problem. Never knew you were such a dick
DeltaWinters88 2 years ago
sorry there is all a misunderstanding. i had know idea that the new hop up had a different design. i had tried a promy in my old version and it fit fine. and sorry for the vulgar language. you know all the pricks on youtube with their smart ass comments (like myself at times when i am pissed off at their smart ass comments.) and i forgot your name and thought you were just another one of them. i thought your "um correction" was like a 13 year old trying to show off...
shadow99reviews 2 years ago
...and anyway sorry, forgot it was you. a thousand pardons. i just mistook you as one of those youtube haters
shadow99reviews 2 years ago
i'm just getting irritable from all the shit that i get and sometimes blow things out of proportion from a comment. so once again sorry.
shadow99reviews 2 years ago
Lol its cool, but yeah talked to Allen and he said Kwa might be hiring another company to make some new barrels for them :D See ya on the forums ;) O yeah for 2010, you might want to save some cash up and not buy anything for a while, the new products list is well, going to dry up a millionare's bank account :)
DeltaWinters88 2 years ago
by far
shadow99reviews 2 years ago
Does the new SR12 come with a plastic hop up too
DezMoines777 2 years ago
im afraid so
shadow99reviews 2 years ago
Nice video!!
55jamesryan 2 years ago
Just to clarify on the "Airsoftgi's is 395" that's because it's a completely different gun all together.
They fixed the RIS wobble, and barrel wobble as you described, but one HUGE difference is that it's the 09 models (specifically the Generation 3, yours is a 2) the Gen 3's has a new finish to it that makes it more grayish and also fixed the major flaw that the trigger post broke with the Gen 1 and 2's, and the gearbox was prone to cracking.
In my opinion, save up 50 dollars for the new 1.
rex3453 2 years ago
Just to clarify your statement the trigger problem has already been fixed for 09' Kwa 1.75v gearbox M4 and M16 models so they weren't "just" fixed but have been fixed for the last 8 months.
DeltaWinters88 2 years ago
Really, because when I called KWA's customer service talking about how my trigger post broke, they told me the newer models (Gen 3) would fix that problem, and the Gen 2 and 1 still had them.
rex3453 2 years ago
When they say Gen 2 and Gen 1, they mean the Gen 2s with the gearbox v1.5. And of course the older models had even older gen gearboxes. The new current 09 Gen 2s feature gearbox V1.75 which has the trigger problem taken care of. Wait a second... aren't you rex from the kwa forums???? Its wintersx866 :D
DeltaWinters88 2 years ago
He is just a active KWA forum guy like me ^^
TheRavenseen 2 years ago
u seem to kno a lot about improvements on the sr12, have u handled one or have u just been oogling it on airsoftgi like me?
907carlover 2 years ago
i researched it a little on airsoft gi and kwa's website
shadow99reviews 2 years ago
Lol did you read my product review of the Kwa SR12? :D the Wen dude is me lol. I talk with Kwa staff members like Alli a lot.
DeltaWinters88 2 years ago
how did the systema hop up work?
sharpshooterdc 2 years ago
it didn't fit so i can't use it
shadow99reviews 2 years ago
oh ok ty i didnt know if i was able to use a different hop up for my m16
sharpshooterdc 2 years ago
dude you can't use a different hop up system unless you swap out the air nozzle on the Kwa gearbox. Kwa air nozzles are NOT TM hop up systems which a lot of peeps get wrong and say that they are. You must swap out the air nozzle for the systema hop up system to work.
DeltaWinters88 2 years ago
ya i was looking for a metal one piece hop up that fit the body i already changed the air nozzle
sharpshooterdc 2 years ago
Dude, is that the KWA KM16 SR12? :D
TheRavenseen 2 years ago
no its just a custom fit ris and flip up sights on an m16, there are annotations in the video that explain it.
907carlover 2 years ago
Great review, i dont really see how this is a "DMR" all it has added on is the RIS, not a barrel upgrade to like 6.04 or 6.03. But nice move getting the TBB.
PINTactical 2 years ago
o yeah, I bought this gun also in Evike, really its awesome, I can shoot a target in a distance about
50 m with accurancy, I think the Maximum Range of this gun is about 70 m, without a awesome accurancy, but I think u have about 70 % to hit at that distance. I dont change the hop up, it works well. Happy Independence day USA people. XD
Polszenager 2 years ago
can the stock be removed?
airbornghost123 2 years ago
yes its the top screw on the butt pad
shadow99reviews 2 years ago
due all you have 2 do is tighten the delta ring and it will b steady they dont tell u how to because they want to sell more ras fixes
MadAirsofterMatt 2 years ago
you put mdr not dmr in the beginning ._.
BananaBombers 2 years ago
i think it is a two piece hop up but i duno
deadlypoop5 2 years ago
yeah i couldn't get the systema hop up to work and i tried the hop up bucking but it is kind of too big ti fit in the hop up. i will try it again with a lot of lube and see if i can shove it in there. if you are still interested message me in a day or two and and i will tell you if i could get it to work.
shadow99reviews 2 years ago
can you fit a 10.8v 4500 mah in it
deadlypoop5 2 years ago
i don't know
shadow99reviews 2 years ago
yes you can
PINTactical 2 years ago
thanks
deadlypoop5 2 years ago
and also the internals are not even comparable to G&G kwas are amazing good review by the way
Darkstar2520 2 years ago
i think u would get a better seal with the plastic hop up
Darkstar2520 2 years ago
ahahahaha kwa is coming out with the new m4 and m16 within the month along with and mp7 ak-47 and a new m11
silentkill253 2 years ago
im about to get that exact gun but what cind of battery connector dose it have small or large for a stabdard bettery not a li poly i have a 9.6 3600mah with a large connector would it work????
NorwegianNightmare88 2 years ago
it has a large and small connector so yes it will work
shadow99reviews 2 years ago
well heres a thing to consider
if you were to use a 5.56mm round you take down to people technically the person that got shot and the person pulling him to safety.
also, in some cases it has been reported that some 5.56mm rounds have bounced off of multiple bones causing severe damage to organs. The 7.92 round will just plain out blow you away though.
Usetimeplayinggames 2 years ago
I wish that that they would just get rid of that useless 5.56mm round! Nothing against AR 15s in general just the round is awful!!! My favorite AR 15 doesnt even shoot a 5.56 it shoots a 9mm. Look up COLT 635....KWA, is a beast company though!!!
AirsoftWhity65 2 years ago
The 5.56 is alright, they can get a better round, but its served this country for the past 40 years, so its doing something right.
mrnickels94 2 years ago
have ever seen what a 556 round does to ballistics jelly
kingd3001 2 years ago
what are you talking about, the 5.56 is amazing. There is nothing wrong with it. By the way the colt mod 635 is utter crap.
AndY3607 2 years ago
The colt 635 looks cool though. I know its crap, it wasnt my first choice either as a gun foor our airsoft team. But we wanted different guns and I came to like it. Also a 7.62 could easily take down any piece of crap 5.56 firing crap gun! A 5.56, cant pierce light armor! I hate all the people who keep buyign AR 15s they look like crap and are crap. You can find much better 5.56mm firing guns! But why would you accuracy has never been the key to wining battle, its all about first shot takedowns
AirsoftWhity65 2 years ago
Who cares if the 7.62 has more power. Just cause its a 5.56 doesn't mean it cant do damage. Also, it doesn't need to be able to pierce armor, its not like every enemy will be carrying armor. If they are, then go for the head. The ar-15's design is great and it performs excellent. I am sorry but after reading your comment, it doesn't seem like you have much knowledge about firearms or have ever even fired a gun. The ar-15 series has been around for 40+ years and it will continue serving our wars.
AndY3607 2 years ago
Besides the fact that the Ar-15 shits where it eats...
DrPepperKid14 2 years ago
I have alot of knowledge about firearms. You dont have to shoot a gun to know alot, my friend has shot many many guns and he still calls a magazine, a clip! The Nato has been discuraged for many years now, the government is looking to change the round, there coming out with somee round I forgot what it is but its a 6.something......The AK keeps winning against AR rifles! A 5.45mis much better than a 5.56. Too many guns use the same round, everybody who gets shot by a 5.56mm gets back up.
AirsoftWhity65 2 years ago
"everybody who gets shot by a 5.56mm gets back up."
unless they are iraqi insurgents
skulleton 2 years ago
it goes a shit load faster to
deadlypoop5 2 years ago
i have to disagree with what you said about the kwa m16 vs. the G&G counterpart. The G&G has a much nicer and more realistic body. At comes stock with a 100 spring. Which i will soon upgrade to a 120 spring. Everything is else is still stock except for my o-ring. After shooting my friends upgraded kwa m16. He has exactly everything u have. Except for the battery. He has a lipo. The rof isnt to much higher and my G&G shoots way more accurate.
Usetimeplayinggames 2 years ago
nice think of buyin a kwa but went for a diffrent gun CA36 nice gun ok internals gonna get a new barrel and systema hop-up bucking
CircusAndVincent 2 years ago
glad you've gone back to orginal review type these are more informative
AirsoftMarin3 2 years ago
i have the same kwa except no ris
sergeantjeremy 2 years ago
Does your echo 1 m4 still work? I just want to know because I've had mine for 6 months, and I want an average life span on it.
mrnickels94 2 years ago
i don't know, i sold it 6 months ago but it was shooting fine then.
shadow99reviews 2 years ago
you need to start a website my friend with forums
ubertytasticSTUDIOS 2 years ago
mine lasted about 8 months
skulleton 2 years ago
No gun is techinically lipo ready stock. It might be able to runa lipo but itll strip your gears much faster.Itll burn your motor and your gears.
slyzar29 2 years ago
What brand of bb's are you using?
buckeye2690 2 years ago
I heard that all KWA M4's and M16's
have a one piece metal barrel and that means no barrel wobble
HawaiianShooter 2 years ago
with all your changes that gun is super custom DAMN
unboxerman12 2 years ago
Hang on i was just talking to a guy from airsoft gi because i wanted to get a new hopup and he said dont replace the hop up because it is set for the gun itself.?? Can you tell me if the hop up has helped at all?
browninghunter1 2 years ago
damn great review shadow!
bigboss5251 2 years ago
would u recommend the KWA M4 RIS or the KWA M4 S System
H4voc23 2 years ago
they both have different pros and cons. The ris has a PEQ Box but the S System has flip up sites and doesn't have a PEQ Box. It really all comes down to looks and the PEQ box
shadow99reviews 2 years ago
I personally don't see any advantage for a PEQ. All it does is make one side of the gun heavier.
forrest225 2 years ago
Were did u get this gun D:
lolroflbbq20 2 years ago