Better Place Video - The Best Car In The World ! !

[mykidsaremylife1000]

if i buy this electric car im gona save myself money ?? so if i buy a new petrol car at £7000 and after 10 years i realistically spend £2000 on parts and repair, drive at least 5000miles per year at £1.39 per gallon of petrol as it is where i live. that would be £69500 plus price of car and maintainance = 78500. where i live i could buy a house for that lol please tell me how much cheaper it would be to buy an electric car, charge it and maintain it for 10 years. many thanks

[travb35]

If Nikola Tesla had been allowed to distribute his technology, electricity would be free too!

[travb35]

Now I know why car industry people don't like the idea of swapable batteries - if they can force you to own a non swap battery - they can slug you for $19,000 every 5 years when it dies!

[SteveFromEarth]

At the begining of the industrial reveloution we had a chance to go electric. People warned of hitting the unstoppable oil gusher as Cheveron is doing now off Brazil and BP did and is doing in the gulf by tapping a preasure source man has no ability to cap. JEPORDIZING ALL LIFE ON EARTH. It`s a pity we are led by such industrialist TRASH in the first place. We benefit from a toxic doom and shorter lives while afew thrive in riches...

[Golem36]

Once you can drive about 300 or more miles on one battery charge, the cars will be viable. They have to be attractive to all the public, not just those whose idealism trumps practicality. Until that 300-mile thresh hold is attained, the cars will be "nice toys" for those with plenty of disgressionary income.

[badskpr]

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[Already1have]

(1) An electric car has no gearbox, valves, clutch, muffler, or exhaust and requires no spark plugs, no filters, and - no oil. There are no regular visits to the dealership for an EV. No oil changes, no filters, even brake pads last two-to-three times longer than in conventional cars, because EVs use regenerative braking to recapture the energy that would otherwise be lost while braking.

[Already1have]

@Already1have (2) Your first trip to the dealership with an EV for scheduled maintenance is at 40,000 miles to check the brake pads. Eventually, you'll need new wiper blades and tires. But that's about it!

ff

[TheRguru1]

@Already1have yeah, but electric cars r slow, low on power, probably more uneconomical to produce than normal cars & their fuel runs out quicker than in conventional cars, not to mention the way they capture electricity from the brakes is from friction, in turn makes it less efficent.

dont worry i aint turnin into a fuckin nerd

[Already1have]

@TheRguru1 No, Just click "show more" on the video and read.. With Better Place, electric cars become cheaper than gasoline (normal) cars because electric cars are sold without the battery. (electric car battery costs around $19,000) Also electric cars have unlimited range due to 1 minute battery swap. The Better Place electric car Renault Fluence ZE is not slow at all. Goto the official web site and check it out.

[bored1980]

I'm curious, how many car makers have signed up to use the same size, same location, same access battery pack from Better Place so far? I know Nissan and Renault are interested. Anyone else? I hope this isn't just another expensive fad that will phase out like Hydrogen Fuel Cells did.

[Already1have]

Electric cars with a price higher than gasoline cars (Volt, Leaf) ) will only be bought by 1-2% of car drivers worldwide over 10 years. THAT'S LIKE NOTHING!! Toyota Prius is the proof. In 13 years, it captured less than 2% of the worldwide car market even though they are only $4,000 more expensive than any new gasoline cars.

[Already1have]

@Already1have URL: euractivDOTcom/en/innovation/b­etter-place-ceo-biggest-obstac­le-electric-cars-auto-industry­-interview-500451

[eldictator1]

It'll be obsolete within 10-15 years in the public sector, not a great business model.

with battery tech that can charge within sub 15minute times already on the horizon Scib i miev for 2012, and ranges reaching 300miles plus (2012 telsa model S) the only way it'll work is for fleets or large transport e.g trucks,buses,vans, taxis

[Already1have]

@eldictator1 The Nissan Leaf' which is the cheapest e-car it's battery costs $18,000!! making the Leaf cost $33,000 Because Better Place will be selling the cars without that incredibly expensive battery packs.. Better Place cars will be cheaper than $5,000 than ANY new gasoline cars..Better Place business model will only be obsolete if car battery prices fall below $2,000 each. That kind of technology to make car batteries so cheap will require at least 2-3 decades if not more..

[SunStreeM]

YESSS!!! no more USA attacks and USA invasions to my home country and my oil.

[Traviskolber]

I've watched Shai Agassi's interviews and lectures. The man is a genius (and his kids are too, I go to the same school they do), and I'm absolutely sure he is making the future with Better Place.



[McCoolVIDIO]

but it is sLow

[Traviskolber]

@McCoolVIDIO For now.

[Aleque]

I love the idea, but as long as it's not significantly cheaper and "trendier" to drive electric cars, people will not give a fuck, and continue running on gas.

[aronchai]

@Aleque They've done studies that show the opposite; when consumers are presented with a choice between a regular product and one that they know is more friendly to the environment AND MORE EXPENSIVE, the majority will choose the latter.

I got this from the book Collapse, by Jared Diamond. He cites a study in which consumers were presented the choice between ordinary lumber and lumber marked with a sticker showing it to be sustainably harvested. (They didn't just mark regular wood, btw).

[ipodUser242]

I live in israel and have been there today, at the visitors center:)

We were in this car - wow- that was amazing!

And there was free coco and coffee there also.... Haha

[Already1have]

As batteries get cheaper and increase in range BPlace will go after the same with 100 mile range (with battery switch station doesn't matter cause they have unlimited range) thus their brand new EV's will cost $5,000 or less!!!

[rwallage]

I've seen the system, the swapping station etc, and I've driven the car. This is the future!

[neephius]

Nuclear fuel cells is the best option.

[Aleque]

@neephius or if they by accident will find new source of energy from those LHC experiments :)

[patrical3]

@neephius what happens in a crash though..?

[jjgreedyify]

a better place ass we all leaving this world soon yeah its kool the charger thing but changin the world only god can do that not ya so stop it just stop it.

[formeandyou83]

If Agassi sell this idea round the world, better place will be one of the hugest companys of the world (like microsoft) and he getting rich like bill gates !!!

[3089280288]

I have my doubts. First off, if a recharging station has a lot of cars waiting to swap, will there be enough replacement batteries? Second, there must be a industry accepted standard. What about converted cars?

[MozartJunior22]

@3089280288 1. Yes. There will be about 20 batteries in each station, that charge quicker than a charge stand.

2. There is already an accepted standard. Unfortunately, there is only currently 1 electric car model: Renault Fluence EZ.

[3089280288]

@MozartJunior22 20 batteries can service how many cars? If I have a converted car, it won't be compatible.

[malbert34]

but how much will this cost per month?

[dymproductions]

a lot cheaper than what we use today.

[RafaLisbon1986]

Renault is the BEST!

[livescoot]

The car is a RENAULT LAGUNA because I'm french and I have got this car lol

[frvfilms]

the future is here,

the ...DeLorean is coming.

[TheSwedechris]

Seems bullet proof..  hmmm. can it fail ?

[SYN7HOR]

This is the ONLY viable option. It's actually quite obvious, this is what will conquer the market. Thank God!

[neephius]

@SYN7HOR This is a fantastic Idea put all the control of the power pack we have in the hands of an organisation so when and if they want they can just flick the remote switch and of we go. Marvellous I still say we are spending and wasting recourses in the wrong area we should be concentrating those efforts on hydrogen. Do you know why they will not go hydrogen? Because once they do they can't control it.

[TheBoqu]

@neephius I do not think so. It is just too expensive to use hydrogen. Maybe in the future. It is not about control.

[neephius]

@SYN7HOR Nahthis is a shit idea it is to controlled people just want to fill up and drive not pull into a carwarsh and pay for a battery servivce like owning a mobile phone and being comntrolled on a contract.

[NeoAltPower]

What happens with these cars when they are in traffic jams? At Stop Lights? Do the motors shut themselves off? Or do they continue to run like dinosaur cars now and suck the battery down?

[evbetterplace]

electic cars do not need to use energy when stopped and are easy to restart. lol it is amost like you never understood how electric motors work. They are in your house. Fans for example

[formeandyou83]

lol an electric car who don't drive don't use energy. just a lil for the lites... turn them off ;)

[SatchmoSings]

@NeoAltPower When you're in a traffic jam, the engine DOESN'T RUN; there's no idling like in a gasoline powered car.

[thyblue]

This is VERY VERY big game.

They will pay for electric but charge same with gasoline prices per mile.

We guess Shai Agassi will be the RICHEST man in history of world or biggest LOSER.

[adamackels]

So very true. Some think he wants to be the involved with OPEC, but I don't think so. Shai doesn't like oil, so what if he's from Isreal? This would be like thinking all black people are ni**ers, I have black friends, good and bad in every race. Is he not entitled to express his mind, and make something good happen? Change is good, and I like his concept.... We'll see what happens

[neephius]

@thyblue Thgis is a shyte idea.

[ooohau]

I am curious about the total energy of the infrastructure between oil and electric system. For Better Place system, how do they deal with the efficiency in the energy transportation? The combustion of oil in cars is higher energy efficient than the charge system.

[dektronic07]

Actually, it's really not. If I can remember the figures correctly, cars only utilize about 1/4 of the energy put into them. By comparison an electric motor is something like 90% efficient, and while the system as a whole has many more steps at which to lose energy it is still both more cost-efficient and energy-efficient than a system based on internal combustion engines...

Also, it allows you to power cars with renewable energy (wind, solar, biomass, geothermal, etc.) rather than oil...

[eazybeat310]

And if you have a combination of renewable energy (biomass cannot work the way it is now) and electric cars, this combination will be a driving factor in the revolution to come. And yes, it will come.

[besonix]

I love this idea!

[bigbadwolf123]

To all those who gave this vid' a slating all I will say is that at least this company is trying. Their not bowing down to the big oil Co.s or Gov. pressure to keep the gas (petrol, diesel) powered vehicles on the road. Those Governments who have 'bailed-out' the auto-makers of these older vehicles (oil-based) should have instead invested those monies into R&D for plug-in E.Vs & 10 years or less from now we'll never understand how we managed before!!! Not utopian but plain old common sense!

[commercialsihate]

independent is spelled with an "e".

[RN0909]

I agree junittc7, even if this is geopolitical driven, the result still help the environment while forcing the oil rich countries to lose some of their power, and maybe start to become innovative for a change

[junittc7]

okay so lets say this is entirely geopolitical and not about the environment.

would you be upset if saudi arabia and iran were forced to look internally for development rather than depend on their oil supplies to fund terrorism worldwide?

so maybe these people aren't only concerned with the environment. but it does help the world in more ways than one.

[biodcel]

This is another idea planned by a guy who wants to CORNER the market for (EV) power. This is just like the oil companies taking over the trolleys in California decades ago to sell more OIL. This is such a BullCrap Idea I can't believe people are buying into this. EV's allow you to charge on your own, this does not allow that. You are at the MERCY of Better Place, when they raise the rates, you are SCREWED! Wake Up World! It Ain't A Better Place

[talhoyle]

Unlike when you are using oil, and the price never increases...

[manubud]

Actually I don't really agree... I think the cost of ownership for EV batteries is way to high for most consumers (most likely around 15k euros) and too inconvenient to recharge also (about 1-2 hours are required). If you combine all these cons, I think the recharge station is just what most need.

Another thing, in another video, the CEO of better place actually talks about the possibility to recharge the battery at home.

[Merany1]

This is all geopolitical and nothing to do with the environment.

[Cryptologist101]

Continued; just like in the video there would be streetside charging plugs for the electric cars and battery exchange stations. In 1912 the small fleet of electric cabs were the only thing running in the giant blizzard of that year in New York City, the electric cabs were hailed as the saviors. Maybe the promise of electric cars can be realized now that we have the information age and powerful people can't pull the wool over the peoples eyes.

[Cryptologist101]

I don't know if you people know this or not but this same concept was put forth by Henry Ford and Thomas Edison in a joint venture in 1911, there was a three way race between electric, steam power and internal combustion, the electric car was on his way to winning this race when some shenanigans took place and Edison's battery factory and laboratories were burned to the ground. Read the book (Internal Combustion) by Edwin Black it's an eye opener.

[IsuckafolovI]

nice!

[johny8122311]

amazing !!!