can someone help me with this.... i need to gain weight in my face, ever since ive been vegan, my eyes have been sunken in and im pretty self conscious about it... the rest of my body isnt bad! i just need something that will put on weight in my face... any suggestions ?
There is no reason we can't get enough protein on a raw vegan diet, without the use of any powders. I detail this on my blog; really raw raederle, a blogspot blog. No need for soy, beans, etc. Sprouts, vegetables and fruits are rich in amino acids, the building blocks our bodies use to create protein.
@Seedr0 All plant foods contain ALL essential amino acids, but they vary in proportion to what we need in order to make our own protein. This is why it is important for us to eat a variety of plant foods, and as you point out, we get different amounts of vitamins and minerals from different plant foods.
@Seedr0 If one ate nothing but broccoli all day, one would have to eat 6 kg in order to acquire 2040 Cal. That would supply ENORMOUS quntities of all vitamins (except D and B12), minerals, amino acids (169 g protein total). The problem is, it would not provide enough fat: only 22 g, which would make it difficult for the fat-soluble vitamins to get absorbed. But in theory, broccoli, which is 20% protein, alone supplies well over twice the protein one needs per day.
What I like about vegan diet is that it's ecologic. By placing you at the second trophic level, just after the photosynthesizing plants, it minimizes energy waste. About 90% of energy or biomass is lost at each tropic level. Because of that, vegan food is the only economical way too feed really large populations (e.g. rice in asia).
In an overpopulation situation well all become vegans out of necessity. It will be more difficult to find all those missing vitamins and micro-elements though.
This guy is misinformed. Your body doesn't need "protein" it needs AMINO ACIDS from within the protein. That's why raw vegan is superior and keeps you incredibly healthy, because everything you eat has AMINO ACIDS.
the problem in america is not too too little protein, its too much. Not a lot of people know that there is only really one protein deficiency, Kwasiorkor, which is only really common in third world countries or where starvation is common. Too much protein is not good for you, especially if you are not an athlete. If you're an herbivore, you eat all the time, and easily take in all the protein, as well as an abundance of essential nutrients, that you need.
Nice informative video. These meat zombies who come here with this crazy talk about unhealthy vegans are just bitter drones, usually from the meat industry. They lie through their teeth and apparently believe people cannot see for themselves that vegans are quite healthy, healthier than meat eaters. We're only about 1 out of 100 people, so where are these zombies meeting all these "sickly vegans," in the anorexic rehab center? That's all BS, literally, as there is sh*t in their hamburgers :-)
I work with a dude who is a vegan. He looks like death and he is younger than me. I look about 10 years younger than my real age. My skin is peachy and glowing his skin is grey and dull. And this seems to be for every vegan i've ever met. If you don't have anything to do in life apart from hunting for millions of protein rich foods, then good luck, but its not for people who do stuff. Sheep don't lack in nutrition from eating grass, but thats all they do, all day, every day. :))
@ahamayoisac who are you trying to convince? Yourself? Sounds like it. We are all happy and content with our decisions, you know you will not change us, so the only reason you must be here is because you're making excuses for yourself, to hear yourself talk. I know because I use to be just like you. Then I changed, and it was the best decision of my life. You may never change, that's your business, but you're not fooling anyone with why you are here, talking constantly.
@ahamayoisac Actually, if his skin is dull it's probably because he is not eating enough fat. Most people, even vegans, have no clue about nutrition. Protein-rich foods are abundant in plants. Most vegetables are over 10% protein. Grains are around 15%, legumes are over 20%, mushrooms are 37% protein! The only low-protein foods are fruits, and even they have enough protein to satisfy the WHO's recommendations.
@DiversePersona only if you already have kidney problems and you'd have to be full on OD'ing on protein to get kidney failure anyway, common misconception and misinformation right there
@DiversePersona i know, but i'm talking like 300g+ a day of protein before you even begin to damage your kidneys and you'd have to be near enough only consuming protein for a good number of months before they were affected
i live in colombia nad the palce where i live is hard to find vegan stuff like "milk" and " meet " what ca i do ? i can fin tones of seeds but is it enough ?
Very easy: HEMP. Go to hemp USA site & get the 50% protein hemp protein powder 25 pound barrell from Canada & you're covered for a year. Best non-meat protein around & the most nutritious single plant on the planet. In fact HEMP is a complete food. If you had to you could survive perfectly well on just hemp & water alone. Ants & insects don't go near it & it doesn't spoil for a long time stored at room temperature. Nature's wonder food & that's why it's illegal to grow in the dumb-ass USA.
@neopogos You gotta eat a high-protein / low carb diet to be the ideal human weight. There's no way around that period. There are TONS of fat vegans & vegetarians because they cut out the meat but not the sugars & high carbs. MEAT is the quickest way to a high protein diet but if you have a guilt-trip about killing animals for food & would rather kill more impersonal life-forms like plants HEMP protein is the way to go. No need to hunt for 50 different nuts at the yuppie vegan store.
@metamorphosis67 Carbs have nothing to do with it. It's all about the excess calories. 3500 calories = 1 pound of fat. Eat 3500 calories excess, gain 1 pound of fat. Even if you ate 2000 calories a day of JUST carbs, you wouldn't gain weight, but you would be very sick.
@metamorphosis67 lol, a bit crude but why not. Only most people don't eat meat not because of killing the animals,( lets face it a sheep has only one purpose is to be some one's lunch, if not human than a wolf's) its more to do with the way animals are kept.
I am so sick of people telling me i'm not getting the right type of protein even after i explain the amino acids to them they are still ignorant and insist they know what is right. I am really getting ticked. I just want to say I eat soy leave me alone!
@TheRogueMonk There is no such thing as an incomplete protein. All plant foods contain all essential amino acids. But not all individual plant foods contain all essential amino acids in the right proportion for us to turn X grams of plant protein into the same amount of human protein. This is one fo teh reasons why we need to eat a variety of plant foods. Cashews, and most nuts, do not contain all amino acids in the perfect proportion; they are usually low in lysine, as are grains.
@Klytemnest the problem is that i dont know what o eat in combination and also a lot of the vegan food can not easily be combined because most of them have the same property.. then you get too much carbs or calories
Meat eaters are clearly getting too much proteins. Consuming less proteins, at least before doing exercise, would be useful for many people, even for some vegans. One day, when I ate less proteins and more carbohydrates, it was very easy to do pull-ups.
Also, meat deficiency causes the same symptoms which amphetamine deficiency does: tiredness, sleepiness, hunger, depression. Though "deficiency" here is more like a slang word which means "dependence" :D
People have the power to make choices and some people choose to eat meat. Most Vegans harass meat-eaters, but I see no point.
I'm a Vegan & although I think "Meat is Murder" no matter how much you others FUSS you will not change ANYONES mind, at least the ones that are dead set on what they believe in.
Most Vegans don't understand that, but I used to be a Omnivore, I would know.
Unlike what Ahamayoisac said, however, being a Vegan had the total opposite affect on me.
@expertvillage 2.2 grams of protein / kg of bodyweight? Even for an active person, that seems *very* excessive. I am moderately active & do some weight lifting (though I'm not a "bodybuilder") and my intake is 0.7 - 0.8 g / kg. If your protein is too high you're risking liver problems, as well as hollowing your bones by calcium being stripped from them, leading to arthritis & osteoperosis.
@StevenBee2 "If your protein is too high you're risking liver problems"
Exactly -- and that's one problem with a vegan diet. One can reduce his protein intake, while retaining the same benefits of the higher intake, by increasing the quality of the protein: en. wikipedia. org/wiki/PDCAAS
@skolman78 "Very good source protein: Spirulina, Sunwarrior, Quinoa, Amaranth."
There are no carbs in quinoa?
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"Sunwarrior"
$27/lb ($18/lb in the Value Pack). Eggs cost a bit more than $1/lb, still have higher protein quality, and also contain vitamins, minerals, and healthy fats.
I am a new vegan after seeing what they do to animals. I just can support (give my money) to people who treat animals like that. People say it's not all farms that treat animals in a bad way... stfu, put your shoes on and go visit a farm. Pigs are locked in cage where they live all their life. They kills baby cow so they don't drink the milk of their mom so we can drink it... etc, etc. I didn't want to be a part of this carnage. I have no problem eating vegan i feel more healthy and energetic!
@theslothman666 Modern farming is making it more difficult to be a vegan actually, with all the extra toxins they spray and the constant mono farming that have ruined the bio diversity of plants. We need to be careful and go back to the old ways of farming, this is the best solution for the food problems in this world as well, use the land as God intended it to be used and we can feed much more people than we do today. =)
@Mekelsior what you refer to is more about remaining organic not vegan. Without modern trade, modern rice farming (redirected water for rice in australia, a huge exporter of rice), processing of beans and nuts and seeds, the variety of climates needed to farm The variety of foods needed to maintain a healthy vegan diet are all a modern day "luxury" that wouldnt have been possible in the past. I respect the choice and commitment of a vegan, I just want the self rightous types to understand.
@theslothman666 I grew up in a vego house hold with a total vegan mother and have been aware of this my entire life. There is only so many places on earth where one can grow all they need to remain healthy. The lesson Ive learned in life is the importance of an organic diet for self and the global food benefits you mention. I include meat in my diet from choice and what ive learned and incorporated into my social consience but would never force it upon another who is capable of fullfilling their
@theslothman666 I agree with you, we should never force anyone to accept a life style change, be it diet, faith or other paradigms, we can appeal to reason and present good arguments to make the switch but I have complete respect for you deciding to eat meat but I won`t eat it if you offer me. ;) As for mono farming, before the green revolution there were greater variety and less chance of famine, Ireland lost 1 million people due to mono farming when the potato plague came. Peru survived np. =)
@Mekelsior very true words friend. I fear for the future of the south american countries that are farming square kilometers of single crops for bio fuel, The G,E crops and the clearing of rain forest for unsustainable beef farming, but im getting off the topic of the posted video. lol. But all valid concerns for Vegans and meat eaters alike.
Robert I am changing to the vegan diet, but I want to do it responssibly so I went to this nutritionist and she was veru skeptical, almost she attacks me when I told her about my decision. So I will go with another nutritionist more aproached to the subject and natural diet. I am phisically active so I still eat eggs and yogur just in the fase. I would like to know about clothes for vegan. Would you know where can we get shoes and belts, what materials are available? Thank you!!!
Today I went to a nutritionist and she told me I cannot replace the quantities I need in terms of proteine, vitamins, etc. She told me I can not be an active person (I do aerobic excersise everyday) and leave meat. She told me I need suplements for life. Where can I get more data? I am really concern, thank you
@megamicron It is possible to get all of your protein (complete protein) on a vegan diet, however, it is more of a chore then eating animal protein. If I eat steak and eggs, I know that the essential amino acids are available; however, if I am vegan, I would have to eat a variety of different protein sources to ensure all the essential amino acids are available.
@HowToChangeTheWorld Or.. you an eat potatoes, thats a complete protein, or tomatoes.. legumes.. brown rice, barley.. oats.. oatmeal :) There is a misconception that plants are not a complete protein. Think about it, elephants, cows, all herbivores.. get enough proteins from a mono diet.. perhaps some have a little bit variety.. but they are strong like rock. =)
@Mekelsior "Think about it [...] cows [...] get enough proteins from a mono diet."
No. Cows don't get all the amino acids they need from their diets. You've never heard of a rumen? Have you ever wondered why cows are called "ruminants"?
@hitssquad Not all plant eaters are ruminants ;) elephants, hippoes, giraffes, they eat a basic diet consisting of plant foods and they do not need any protein shakes to build their muslces, nor do humans. =)
That's right. But every animal that lives on cellulose ferments it.
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"elephants, hippoes, giraffes"
All three of those rely on gut fermentation to digest cellulose for them. Elephants are colon fermenters. "The hippo does not chew the cud but it's chambered stomach suggests that it has a ruminant-like digestion, which is why it has been termed a "pseudo-ruminant". (The hippos: natural history and conservation By Stewart Keith Eltringham)
@Mekelsior "Not all plant eaters are ruminants [...] giraffes"
Actually, the giraffe is indeed a ruminant: google. com/search?q=giraffe+ruminants "San Diego Zoo's Animal Bytes: Giraffe
The giraffe is a ruminant and has a stomach with four compartments that digests the leaves it eats. When giraffes aren't eating, they are chewing their cud."
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All large animals that eat cellulose ferment it in some way. For example: mountain gorillas. They ferment the leaves they eat in their (very large) colons.
@hitssquad You are arguing that the protein is in the cellulose only, this is however not the case. =) If you go to John McDougalls webpage and do some searching on proteins you will find a list over the amount of proteins reccomended and the amount that is found in plants, it is more than enough in pretty much every single plant. Few humans however eat a mono diet and would rather combine a few. It is however telling that the Asian and Southern Amercican population gets enough protein on starch
@Mekelsior "You are arguing that the protein is in the cellulose only"
No. Where did you get that idea? The animals you listed, and many other "plant eaters", don't eat the same plants that human "plant eaters" eat. Instead, they eat cellulose. Bacteria in their guts convert this cellulose into protein, and then the animals digest that protein. Get it?
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"the Asian and Southern Amercican population gets enough protein on starch"
@hitssquad Then there is no problem in getting protein on a vegan diet and we are thus at agreement. =) Did you know that human has an enzyme, amylaze that digest starches, and that other herbivores such as chimps, even though they do eat meat on occation, do not have the enzyme to digest starch? So then, even nature says that we are plant eaters, we also have a long intestines, grinding teeth and are not built as carnivores, nor are we scavengers... we are extremely resillient though.. ;)
@hitssquad I did not say that starch is a protein, starch is a sugar, but foods rich in starch contain protein, it is a complete package if you will that supply the body with just enough fat and protein and carbs that the body needs. Take the potatoe for example, it delivers a complete range of amino acids in a wonderful package making it perfect for consumption. This is the truth when it comes to all foods rich in starch. =)
@Mekelsior "Then there is no problem in getting protein on a vegan diet"
What would the fact that some animals can ferment cellulose in their guts have to do with whether there might be, for humans, a "problem in getting protein on a vegan diet"? Why are you using ruminant, pseudo-ruminant, and colon-fermenting animals as examples of what humans can do? Are you trying to say that you believe that humans can ferment cellulose in their guts, just as elephants, hippoes, and giraffes do?
If chimps are herbivores, why do they eat insects and monkeys?: google. com/search?q=beyondveg+chimp+insects "most populations of chimpanzees are getting somewhere in the neighborhood of 5%* of their diet on average in most cases (as a baseline) to perhaps 8-10%* as a high depending on the season, as animal food--which in their case includes bird's eggs and insects in addition to flesh--particularly insects, which are much more heavily consumed [...] [75]"
@Mekelsior "chimps [...] do not have the enzyme to digest starch?"
Actually, they do, but it's produced at lower levels than in modern humans: google. com/search?q=beyondveg+chimp+amylase
Also, the human increase in amylase gene copies was recent: "individuals from populations whose traditional diet is high-starch, have more copies of the gene than individuals whose traditional diet is low starch. The increase in copies of AMY1 is estimated to have occurred within the last 200K years BP."
No one claimed humans were carnivores. Humans are adapted to eat meat, though: google. com/search?q=beyondveg+tract+length
...and this is shown by the fact that humans thrive disease-free on all-meat diets; and develop heart-disease, cancer, diabetes, and Alzheimer's disease when they instead consume carbohydrates. The fact that humans don't have the claws and jaws of carnivores is rendered irrelevant by their possession of the world's best hunting tool."
@hitssquad Oh alot of people are claiming that meat is the super food for humans... it is however false that human are "Disease free on all meat diets..." a friend of mine is on the Atkinson diet and he is very sick.. anyway Harvard has presented great research of the opposite, that carbs from whole food plant based sources are very beneficial to your health. Do a test, eat only meat for 1 month and test your blood work before and after, then do another test and eat plants for 1 month. =)
@hitssquad It is a known fact that diabetes 1 is caused by milk animal food, so there goes your theory. As for diabetes type 2 it is caused by fat, refined products such as sodas and candy does contribute I suspect so does artifical sweeteners such as aspertame. People that are on a vegan diet such as the John McDougall diet are getting rid of all these diseases that you speak of, why is that? Why is not Asia, rural areas not filled with heart disease and diabetis and cancers? :)
@hitssquad Yes, the chimp can, sorry if I stated something wrong, fact is human is BETTER, thus we are more vegetarian than chimps who have the major of their diet from fruits. When humans got this abbility to digest starch is complete irrelevant. =)
@hitssquad Herbivore is the closest description on them as they eat mostly plant food, we could argue they are omnivore just as the bear and the dog. The point was however that humans are more vegetarian than chimps, and the article that you refer to is great support for that. =)
@hitssquad You are again making the argument that these animals get their protein only from fermenting bacteria and thus that there are no proteins in plants other than what is in the fibre that we humans dont digest. Do you think that these animals only source of protein is in the fibre? If no then why argue that? :) We do not need as much protein as these big animals and thus whatever is in the digestible plant material is sufficient for us.
All the protein sources you mentioned have plenty of carbs. I have an issue with eating carbs, as they increase the body’s insulin response, and in turn can lead to cancer and a host of other issues. I just made soup with chicken, cabbage, onions, bok choy, garlic, eggs, lemon juice, pepper and a pinch of brown rise. All I need with minimal carbs. I’d rather get my calories from fat then from sugar, but that’s just me.
@HowToChangeTheWorld There are plenty of research done that a diet change can cure diabetes types 2, all food that you eat cause an insulin reaction, dairy and meat products as well, insulins job is to clean the blood from glucose and fats, so it store fats into fat cells and if you have a low mithrocondia (I think that is how you spell it..) count then your cells will be filled up with fat and thus you trigger insulin reactions and have to much glucose in the blood.
@HowToChangeTheWorld The body runs solely on glucose, it converts the energy from fat into usable energy it is more taxing to the body to do so but it does so in times of famine, fat is excellent to store energy however and all fat you eat are usually just stored as fat in your body while carbs are utilized as heat energy. There are no diabetic herbivores, but there are diabetic pets, think about that one for a moment ;)
@HowToChangeTheWorld Carbs are not dangerous if they come from whole foods, I do not reccomend eating refined foods. There is a doctor, Bernard.. I think you may have heard of him, that fed diabetics type 2 fruits and all kind of low glycemic index foods, most fruits are actually low on this scale due to the contents of fibre and water. Some say that sugar cause cancer but it is very unlikely, check out the McDougall diet it has been shown to be beneficial for diabetics, cancer patients ect.
@jackdtroughton lol. I don’t know why you assume I’m a bro? You may not understand or appreciate the role carnivores and omnivores play in ecosystems, but I do. Animals that eat other animals, like carnivores and omnivores are important to any ecosystem, because they keep other species from getting overpopulated. So, it’s okay for my well fed cat to kill and eat mice, however, if I eat meat I am deemed immoral?
A sociopath wouldn’t spend 2 weeks nursing the same cat back to life as I did.
@HowToChangeTheWorld Bro isn't a gender distinction OTI, bro. It's used to talk down to people through irreverence.
I've considered and factored it in, and also the suffering of all animals, and the ability of humans to realize this and its ramifications on the animal. Your cat is not subject to the parameters you are, it's a simple creature.
Sociopath is obviously the wrong mental disorder.
That cat, and humans, are no different in their right to live, you can't make a distinction there.
@jackdtroughton Listen brother… It’s funny how you overtly talk down to me and yet I am the sociopath… I’m a vegan do-gooder, look at me. Lol, I’m just trying to “get your goat,” and when I get it, I’ll eat that goat. LMAO
@jackdtroughton An animal's right to live is enforced by whom, you? All creatures have a "natural right" to defend themselves, but nobody has a right to live. All life forms are actually food for other forms of life. How about the plants right to live???
Because of the phytoestrogen content, some studies have suggested that soybean ingestion may influence testosterone levels in men. However, a 2010 meta analysis of 15 placebo controlled studies showed that neither soy foods nor isoflavone supplements alter measures of bioavailable testosterone or estrogen concentrations in men [100] Furthermore, soy consumption has been shown to have no effect on the levels and quality of sperm [102]
@megamicron Check out Dr John McDougall he reccomends a starch based diet that will supply with all the nutrients you need, you get enough power to be as active as you want and you will loose weight if you are overweight. People are ultra marathon iron man, bodybuilders and all kinds of active on his regiment. It is also easy, you eat as much as you want, until you are full and then thats that. =) There is sadly so much misconception going on in this world regarding diet.. but check it out! :)
@VegansAreSuperior haha ive heard arguments for veganism that make valid points but this one of yours is new haha. i could take time to pick apart your arguement but i wont waste my time because any intelligent person who reads that will know why its a joke. if you want to be a vegan go ahead im not trying to change the way you live i just made a joke about the guy in the video so dont try to preach veganism with false facts. you live your life ill live mine.
@nolanlott56 its so funny how people are getting so annoyed at him. hes just talking about what foods have protein. I really dont see the need to argue. so settle down theres no need be an asshole.
@9494blahblah how am i being an asshole? who is annoyed at the guy in the video? the guy makes valid points, there is protein in a bunch of stuff and if you want to get protein while being a vegan listen to this guy. i personally eat meat and animal products along with many of the things he mentions in the video. i made a joke and the vegans attack. i know some respectable vegans and 9494blahblah you seem to be one if you are vegan, but the person that was argueing with me is not
@nolanlott56 oops i didnt mean for my comment to sound so aggressive. sorry. I dont necessarily mean you but all the other people who are bagging him and talking about how they dont like vegans
the cause of veganism would do better without people promoting themselves like Joshua Katcher, who was paid mega bucks to promote Lord and Taylor, a company that sells fur. Yet he harasses old women who wear it. Walk the walk. Don't pretend to save the world, animals will always kill each other in the wild
Attention All Vegetarians And Vegans!! I am starting a skype chatroom kind of thing. We only have 4 people right now but we want more. Send me a skype request at adam.layish and tell me you are for the chatroom!
animal protein isnt the same as a broccoli, our body doesnt absorb the vegetables protein aswell... its the sad truth. Im a vegan too, but we gotta say the facts.
@TheLaughRoom. Animal protein gives cancer - it was proven with the China Study, and what you say is wrong. Read study papers like I have and get the facts - look at the US, obese and dying!
@adamramoth ... i dont think so, i mean we all have different opinions, my parents both say animal protein is necessary and i dont think it can give cancer 2/3 of the population would have cancer, now people is saying everything gives cancer..
@TheLaughRoom ..... You may want to read "The China Study" written by Dr. T. Colin Campbell. He will tell you why food from animals (meat, fish, eggs, diary give cancer and all kinds of disease to human. A lot of old knowledge is wrong. Try to do some updated research. Good luck! ;-)
@chunghsingjung but my parents are doctors aswell): Anyway :D i'll go and check it out, it would be a lot easier to convince my parents ;) as u know im a vegan, and having them all the time bothering.. gosh.. thanks(:
@TheLaughRoom ..... You may want to read "The China Study" written by Dr. T. Colin Campbell. He will tell you why food from animals (meat, fish, eggs, diary give cancer and all kinds of disease to human. A lot of old knowledge is wrong. Try to do some updated research. Good luck! ;-)
@TheLaughRoom It is possible they are uninformed, as there is a lot of literature available (scientific studies, journal articles, scientific reviews) that state otherwise
@Snicky1271 not everyone in this world can have our oppinion. not because im a vegan im right, and not because they're meateaters they're right, its just a different point of view, i really dont know how a doctor would be uninformed about this...
@TheLaughRoom I completely agree that everyone is entitled to an opinion, yet some opinions are unfounded, especially when relating to science. One could have an opinion that eating plastic is healthful, however scientific evidence proves otherwise. I am a vegetarian as well, yet not due to opinion, but due to evidence suggesting that my diet will increase my body's health
If you are vegan and own a dog, you are a callous hypocrite. Does your dog turn circles before he lays down? Gobbles his food as if a predator is going to take it? Does he chase bunnies in his sleep? That is because Fido, Bandit or Rover is yearning to be free. He is a primal beast ready to be returned to a feral existance. Not some lawn ornament to be fed your nasty organic vegan hippie dog food. Do your pup a favor and set him free.
@granitehills2t I don't get it when people say that you should be a vagan because we aren't biologically programmed to eat meat but then feed a dog or cat a vegan diet. The dog and cat are predators as you have stated and does show a kink in their theory.
I don't really mind what people eat. I just don't like it when people are not tolerant of my choices of what I want to eat.
I love broccoli but who can eat it without butter and shredded cheese?
@chubbypekingnese Yeah and they murder bacteria with anti-bacterial soap, rob rabbits, gophers, and insects of their food source, not to mention pissing people like me so that we take out our aggression by eating even more meat.
@chubbypekingnese I've never heard somebody argue we aren't programmed to eat meat. Who cares? There's no drive in that argument, the real reasons lie in not eating meat cause we're human enough to make that choice and because we've gone unsustainably far in the direction of killing animals in production lines. How far will that go? It's the best option for sustainability as a whole, not for selfish reasons. And there's a cost to living, animals die as we do. "why make it worse" is the reason
@ofdarknessandlight What do you mean you've never heard that arguement. I guess you must be new to the debate.
As far as sustainablity, the livestock industry is bigger than it has ever been.
30 or years ago we were told that the Earth's resources would not be able to provide for a population in excess of 5 billion people. We are well beyond that now and we produce more meat products than we did 30 years ago.
it's only worst fo the livestock not those who consume them.
@chubbypekingnese So you're saying that we've managed to produce enough meat and that there's no issue there? To say we're "beyond that" is to turn a blind eye. It's the easy option. I'm a vegetarian myself, but personally for me it's about not doing things the comfortable way. Should we carry on the way we're going just because nothing disastrous has happened when they said it would? It means we've compromised. No facts here but it's obvious anyone can increase livestock output by cramming more
@chubbypekingnese oh, by "I've never heard that argument" I think I just meant I don't follow it so much, regardless of who says it. It's a bit of a non argument to me, from vegans. What we're programmed to do or not doesn't come in to what's sustainable or good. One could argue the world isn't worth sustaining and you think the human race should fade as quickly as possible, so I wouldn't put too much of a point behind why we should "sustainable". People will go very far to contradict themselves
@granitehills2t Dogs have been domesticated over hundreds of years and if they were let out into the woods, they would not have the necessary neural systems to deal with the environment. Most likely they would die from starvation as they no longer have the instinct to hunt. However, with regard to veganism, it makes total biological sense for humans to only eat vegetables and nuts. There is nothing unnatural about this.
@Snicky1271 That is why we need to start re-education camps for dogs to be wild again. All it would take is selective breeding and a park for them to learn to be feral without starvation. That would be easy since we should ban meat and will have vast expances of land available for wild life and sacred cows. Only a facsist police state could pull off such an epic idea so we should do that too. We need to undo the cruelty that we cause to the dog's soul.
With statements like "We'd get enough protein from broccoli alone", this "expert" shows that he has no idea of nutrition. Protein is not protein -- the profile of various amino acids matters -- and that profile should be balanced, but isn't in a vegan diet. E.g. Lysine deficiency. Also, the big vegan protein sources are full of phytates and other nasties that block uptake of important nutrients. Tofu is unhealthy and highly processed.
I was raised to believe in a balanced diet, which unfortunately involves meat and cheese. But if it means anything, I won't eat red meat, just chicken and fish.
Food is not sustaining the human body. The highest teachings will always be 1. all food is poison, 2. ejaculation is for having kids only, 3. not working out and shaping your reality, is letting the society shape your reality.
There is a lot of new info coming out on breatharianism. I dont encourage people to stop eating, sit there, get anorexic, skinny, die, but to exercise and really study all these myths, I used to spend 100s of dollars on protein and Im pissed to find out its all bs...
Scientists have ascertained that the most nutritious & economic meal known is Chefboyardee Beef Ravioli (The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, Nov 1, 2010; 92 [5]) “This should come as no surprise”, quipped ConAgra Foods / Chefboyardee CEO Gary Rodkin, “…here at Chefboyardee we pride ourselves on high quality product, aimed at supplying all the essential nutrients.” Study conducted by the Linus Pauling Institute, Oregon State University, with partial funding from ConAgra Foods.
Scientists have ascertained that the most nutritious & economic meal known is Chefboyardee Beef Ravioli (The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, Nov 1, 2010; 92 [5]) “This should come as no surprise”, quipped ConAgra Foods / Chefboyardee CEO Gary Rodkin, “…here at Chefboyardee we pride ourselves on high quality product, aimed at supplying all the essential nutrients.” Study conducted by the Linus Pauling Institute, Oregon State University, with partial funding from ConAgra Foods.
Vegan diets are not healthy... Im a doctor, so I KNOW what Im talking about. My degree proves that I know these things! Trust me or not? Check out my channel to see if you do.
There is new knowledge coming through on the fact food is not sustaining the physical body - breatharianism is gaining popularity, as fitness PRACTICE daily brings in higher energy into the body, away from anorexia and starvation. This may all sound whacked out and crazy but Im letting all you people transitioning to a vegan lifestyle FITNESS IS LIFE and that is the real way to be healthy dont let the food industry brainwash you with protein, nutrition, etc. YOU ARE GOD. Help awake the others...
I don't know how anyone can think being Vegan is Unhealthy..on Oct. 27th I donated a Kidney to my Mother and to do so, i had get a lot of tests done on me, not just to make sure that i was a match for her, but to make sure I was healthy enough to have surgery and live with just one Kidney. And every one of my tests came back in perfect health. Zero problems. GO VEGAN
uhhhh do whatever you want. I've been vegan for 5years and the main problem is that this planet is over populated and I cant wait to see how humans become extinct and to what extremes we'll try to survive. Everything ends muahahahahaha
I was a vegan, but even eating plants causes harm to the earth. All true Vegans and Liberals do what I am going to do. Kill yourself. If we aren't alive we can't hurt the Earth. Please kill yourself immediately. Every day you stay alive you spit in the face of animals and plants.
can someone help me with this.... i need to gain weight in my face, ever since ive been vegan, my eyes have been sunken in and im pretty self conscious about it... the rest of my body isnt bad! i just need something that will put on weight in my face... any suggestions ?
ovechkin100 1 week ago
america gets TO MUCH protien. fact.
nerdymom2 1 month ago
There is no reason we can't get enough protein on a raw vegan diet, without the use of any powders. I detail this on my blog; really raw raederle, a blogspot blog. No need for soy, beans, etc. Sprouts, vegetables and fruits are rich in amino acids, the building blocks our bodies use to create protein.
artzphoenix 4 months ago
Broccoli doesn't have all 11 amino acids necessary for survival, this is absolutely false.
Soy on the other hand does, you also need much more variety in vitamins than that found in broccoli, or even soy, no matter how much you eat of it.
Seedr0 5 months ago
@Seedr0 All plant foods contain ALL essential amino acids, but they vary in proportion to what we need in order to make our own protein. This is why it is important for us to eat a variety of plant foods, and as you point out, we get different amounts of vitamins and minerals from different plant foods.
Klytemnest 4 months ago
@Seedr0 If one ate nothing but broccoli all day, one would have to eat 6 kg in order to acquire 2040 Cal. That would supply ENORMOUS quntities of all vitamins (except D and B12), minerals, amino acids (169 g protein total). The problem is, it would not provide enough fat: only 22 g, which would make it difficult for the fat-soluble vitamins to get absorbed. But in theory, broccoli, which is 20% protein, alone supplies well over twice the protein one needs per day.
Klytemnest 4 months ago
Hummus! (chick peas)it tastes great and is full of minerals and protein:-)
NEUHEITEN100 5 months ago
@NEUHEITEN100
Yeah, it does taste great. You know what I do with hummus at my home? I get naked and jump in a pool full of hummus. :-)
DiversePersona 4 months ago
Its trophic level, not tropic level.
misium 6 months ago
What I like about vegan diet is that it's ecologic. By placing you at the second trophic level, just after the photosynthesizing plants, it minimizes energy waste. About 90% of energy or biomass is lost at each tropic level. Because of that, vegan food is the only economical way too feed really large populations (e.g. rice in asia).
In an overpopulation situation well all become vegans out of necessity. It will be more difficult to find all those missing vitamins and micro-elements though.
misium 6 months ago 2
This guy is misinformed. Your body doesn't need "protein" it needs AMINO ACIDS from within the protein. That's why raw vegan is superior and keeps you incredibly healthy, because everything you eat has AMINO ACIDS.
MrMaryJanes 6 months ago
@MrMaryJanes Protein is made out of amino acids. Everything you eat has protein, not just free amino acids.
misium 6 months ago
@misium False.
MrMaryJanes 6 months ago
the problem in america is not too too little protein, its too much. Not a lot of people know that there is only really one protein deficiency, Kwasiorkor, which is only really common in third world countries or where starvation is common. Too much protein is not good for you, especially if you are not an athlete. If you're an herbivore, you eat all the time, and easily take in all the protein, as well as an abundance of essential nutrients, that you need.
BiohazardBunney 6 months ago
Does anyone else find it ironic that there's a commercial for purdue chicken before a clip about veganism?
bdawk20fan 6 months ago
Nice informative video. These meat zombies who come here with this crazy talk about unhealthy vegans are just bitter drones, usually from the meat industry. They lie through their teeth and apparently believe people cannot see for themselves that vegans are quite healthy, healthier than meat eaters. We're only about 1 out of 100 people, so where are these zombies meeting all these "sickly vegans," in the anorexic rehab center? That's all BS, literally, as there is sh*t in their hamburgers :-)
1221solstice2012 6 months ago
I work with a dude who is a vegan. He looks like death and he is younger than me. I look about 10 years younger than my real age. My skin is peachy and glowing his skin is grey and dull. And this seems to be for every vegan i've ever met. If you don't have anything to do in life apart from hunting for millions of protein rich foods, then good luck, but its not for people who do stuff. Sheep don't lack in nutrition from eating grass, but thats all they do, all day, every day. :))
ahamayoisac 6 months ago
@ahamayoisac who are you trying to convince? Yourself? Sounds like it. We are all happy and content with our decisions, you know you will not change us, so the only reason you must be here is because you're making excuses for yourself, to hear yourself talk. I know because I use to be just like you. Then I changed, and it was the best decision of my life. You may never change, that's your business, but you're not fooling anyone with why you are here, talking constantly.
BiohazardBunney 6 months ago
@ahamayoisac Actually, if his skin is dull it's probably because he is not eating enough fat. Most people, even vegans, have no clue about nutrition. Protein-rich foods are abundant in plants. Most vegetables are over 10% protein. Grains are around 15%, legumes are over 20%, mushrooms are 37% protein! The only low-protein foods are fruits, and even they have enough protein to satisfy the WHO's recommendations.
Klytemnest 4 months ago
KIDNEY FAILURE (DEATH) IS LINK TO OVERDOSING ON PROTEIN
DiversePersona 6 months ago
@DiversePersona only if you already have kidney problems and you'd have to be full on OD'ing on protein to get kidney failure anyway, common misconception and misinformation right there
PaleoPlaytime 4 months ago
@PaleoPlaytime
Too much of anything is bad, you nigga.
DiversePersona 4 months ago
@DiversePersona i know, but i'm talking like 300g+ a day of protein before you even begin to damage your kidneys and you'd have to be near enough only consuming protein for a good number of months before they were affected
PaleoPlaytime 4 months ago
i live in colombia nad the palce where i live is hard to find vegan stuff like "milk" and " meet " what ca i do ? i can fin tones of seeds but is it enough ?
ricardillosk8 6 months ago
Very easy: HEMP. Go to hemp USA site & get the 50% protein hemp protein powder 25 pound barrell from Canada & you're covered for a year. Best non-meat protein around & the most nutritious single plant on the planet. In fact HEMP is a complete food. If you had to you could survive perfectly well on just hemp & water alone. Ants & insects don't go near it & it doesn't spoil for a long time stored at room temperature. Nature's wonder food & that's why it's illegal to grow in the dumb-ass USA.
metamorphosis67 6 months ago
@metamorphosis67
PROTEIN SUPPLEMENTS KILL
DiversePersona 6 months ago
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neopogos, you're right, oats are a decent source of protein too.
veganonashoestring.blogspot.com
veganonashoestring 7 months ago
What about oats? I mean horses are the most muscled animals and mainly eat oats.
neopogos 7 months ago
@neopogos You gotta eat a high-protein / low carb diet to be the ideal human weight. There's no way around that period. There are TONS of fat vegans & vegetarians because they cut out the meat but not the sugars & high carbs. MEAT is the quickest way to a high protein diet but if you have a guilt-trip about killing animals for food & would rather kill more impersonal life-forms like plants HEMP protein is the way to go. No need to hunt for 50 different nuts at the yuppie vegan store.
metamorphosis67 6 months ago
@metamorphosis67 Carbs have nothing to do with it. It's all about the excess calories. 3500 calories = 1 pound of fat. Eat 3500 calories excess, gain 1 pound of fat. Even if you ate 2000 calories a day of JUST carbs, you wouldn't gain weight, but you would be very sick.
seemostandnow 6 months ago
@metamorphosis67 lol, a bit crude but why not. Only most people don't eat meat not because of killing the animals,( lets face it a sheep has only one purpose is to be some one's lunch, if not human than a wolf's) its more to do with the way animals are kept.
ahamayoisac 6 months ago
I am so sick of people telling me i'm not getting the right type of protein even after i explain the amino acids to them they are still ignorant and insist they know what is right. I am really getting ticked. I just want to say I eat soy leave me alone!
JoelB3783 7 months ago
Why is there a got milk? commercial in front of this?
dragonfly51990 7 months ago
Hemp protein powder is awesome...
MrSpemat 7 months ago
Its not just about how many grams per serving, its about how much is absorbed.
auggiedoggy 7 months ago
can you complete a incomplete protein with a complete protein or do you have to use incomplete protein ...?
are chasews complete protein?
TheRogueMonk 7 months ago
@TheRogueMonk There is no such thing as an incomplete protein. All plant foods contain all essential amino acids. But not all individual plant foods contain all essential amino acids in the right proportion for us to turn X grams of plant protein into the same amount of human protein. This is one fo teh reasons why we need to eat a variety of plant foods. Cashews, and most nuts, do not contain all amino acids in the perfect proportion; they are usually low in lysine, as are grains.
Klytemnest 4 months ago
@Klytemnest the problem is that i dont know what o eat in combination and also a lot of the vegan food can not easily be combined because most of them have the same property.. then you get too much carbs or calories
TheRogueMonk 4 months ago
Hemp seed and other hemp products are the best for vegan and vegetarianism!
CrazyFallenAngelStar 7 months ago
Meat eaters are clearly getting too much proteins. Consuming less proteins, at least before doing exercise, would be useful for many people, even for some vegans. One day, when I ate less proteins and more carbohydrates, it was very easy to do pull-ups.
Also, meat deficiency causes the same symptoms which amphetamine deficiency does: tiredness, sleepiness, hunger, depression. Though "deficiency" here is more like a slang word which means "dependence" :D
DoomedSpaceMarine123 7 months ago
People have the power to make choices and some people choose to eat meat. Most Vegans harass meat-eaters, but I see no point.
I'm a Vegan & although I think "Meat is Murder" no matter how much you others FUSS you will not change ANYONES mind, at least the ones that are dead set on what they believe in.
Most Vegans don't understand that, but I used to be a Omnivore, I would know.
Unlike what Ahamayoisac said, however, being a Vegan had the total opposite affect on me.
BellaTeamJacob 8 months ago
@BellaTeamJacob The vast majority of vegans are former omnivores who converted because someone said something that resonated with them.
To imply there is no point in speaking out against certain practices or industries or having a critical dialogue about health is simply ignorant.
eljagg01 7 months ago
@eljagg01 Excellent point, I was trying to think what to say to that, but you did it!
1221solstice2012 6 months ago
I am so sad that this needs to be even made. This should be common knowledge by now.
jackdtroughton 8 months ago
@expertvillage 2.2 grams of protein / kg of bodyweight? Even for an active person, that seems *very* excessive. I am moderately active & do some weight lifting (though I'm not a "bodybuilder") and my intake is 0.7 - 0.8 g / kg. If your protein is too high you're risking liver problems, as well as hollowing your bones by calcium being stripped from them, leading to arthritis & osteoperosis.
StevenBee2 8 months ago
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@StevenBee2 "If your protein is too high you're risking liver problems"
Exactly -- and that's one problem with a vegan diet. One can reduce his protein intake, while retaining the same benefits of the higher intake, by increasing the quality of the protein: en. wikipedia. org/wiki/PDCAAS
hitssquad 8 months ago
Very good source protein: Spirulina, Sunwarrior, Quinoa, Amaranth.
skolman78 8 months ago 11
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@skolman78 "Very good source protein: Spirulina, Sunwarrior, Quinoa, Amaranth."
There are no carbs in quinoa?
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"Sunwarrior"
$27/lb ($18/lb in the Value Pack). Eggs cost a bit more than $1/lb, still have higher protein quality, and also contain vitamins, minerals, and healthy fats.
hitssquad 8 months ago
@skolman78
iReasonII 6 months ago
@skolman78 thank you i was actually seeking some alternatives much appreciated!
iReasonII 6 months ago
I am about to create a vegan recipe blog, maybe you want to have alook at it.
Just google "veganpassion english", I would be happy about some visitiors :-)
wiessyjr 8 months ago
How to get protein on vegan diet: eat a steak.
EliteVegan 8 months ago
From the book: The ANSWER
It’s also occurred to Ztingar that cows, sheep and horses only
eat grass to survive and are among the most peaceful animals on
Earth. “How come they’ve always been treated so badly, he asks
himself, “cuz we humans not only eat ‘em, but drag ‘em into wars
‘n’ even make ‘em work ‘til they drop sometimes. Maybe instead o’
killin’ other creatures to survive, part of our journey on Earth is to
evolve ‘n’ find more peaceful ways to get our food?”
LIFESKEY 8 months ago
Here is a way to figure out whether a high carbohydrate diet(vegan) or high protein diet(paleo diet) is best for you.
First of all the American diet is VERY bad.
Now switch yourself to a high protein diet(paleo diet) for at least 3 months.
When your done, switch yourself to a high carb diet for a few days and SEE how you feel. If you feel any better, than you can switch to that diet.
If you don't, go back to paleo.
High Carb diet incorporates breads, pasta, fruits, vegetables, and nuts
CBasie2856 9 months ago
I am a new vegan after seeing what they do to animals. I just can support (give my money) to people who treat animals like that. People say it's not all farms that treat animals in a bad way... stfu, put your shoes on and go visit a farm. Pigs are locked in cage where they live all their life. They kills baby cow so they don't drink the milk of their mom so we can drink it... etc, etc. I didn't want to be a part of this carnage. I have no problem eating vegan i feel more healthy and energetic!
LikeTotallyRich 9 months ago
Id love to see how you would remain vegan if we didnt have modern farming and more so modern trade networks.
theslothman666 9 months ago
@theslothman666 Modern farming is making it more difficult to be a vegan actually, with all the extra toxins they spray and the constant mono farming that have ruined the bio diversity of plants. We need to be careful and go back to the old ways of farming, this is the best solution for the food problems in this world as well, use the land as God intended it to be used and we can feed much more people than we do today. =)
Mekelsior 8 months ago
@Mekelsior what you refer to is more about remaining organic not vegan. Without modern trade, modern rice farming (redirected water for rice in australia, a huge exporter of rice), processing of beans and nuts and seeds, the variety of climates needed to farm The variety of foods needed to maintain a healthy vegan diet are all a modern day "luxury" that wouldnt have been possible in the past. I respect the choice and commitment of a vegan, I just want the self rightous types to understand.
theslothman666 8 months ago
@theslothman666 I grew up in a vego house hold with a total vegan mother and have been aware of this my entire life. There is only so many places on earth where one can grow all they need to remain healthy. The lesson Ive learned in life is the importance of an organic diet for self and the global food benefits you mention. I include meat in my diet from choice and what ive learned and incorporated into my social consience but would never force it upon another who is capable of fullfilling their
theslothman666 8 months ago
@theslothman666 I agree with you, we should never force anyone to accept a life style change, be it diet, faith or other paradigms, we can appeal to reason and present good arguments to make the switch but I have complete respect for you deciding to eat meat but I won`t eat it if you offer me. ;) As for mono farming, before the green revolution there were greater variety and less chance of famine, Ireland lost 1 million people due to mono farming when the potato plague came. Peru survived np. =)
Mekelsior 8 months ago
@Mekelsior very true words friend. I fear for the future of the south american countries that are farming square kilometers of single crops for bio fuel, The G,E crops and the clearing of rain forest for unsustainable beef farming, but im getting off the topic of the posted video. lol. But all valid concerns for Vegans and meat eaters alike.
theslothman666 8 months ago
Robert I am changing to the vegan diet, but I want to do it responssibly so I went to this nutritionist and she was veru skeptical, almost she attacks me when I told her about my decision. So I will go with another nutritionist more aproached to the subject and natural diet. I am phisically active so I still eat eggs and yogur just in the fase. I would like to know about clothes for vegan. Would you know where can we get shoes and belts, what materials are available? Thank you!!!
megamicron 9 months ago
Today I went to a nutritionist and she told me I cannot replace the quantities I need in terms of proteine, vitamins, etc. She told me I can not be an active person (I do aerobic excersise everyday) and leave meat. She told me I need suplements for life. Where can I get more data? I am really concern, thank you
megamicron 9 months ago
@megamicron It is possible to get all of your protein (complete protein) on a vegan diet, however, it is more of a chore then eating animal protein. If I eat steak and eggs, I know that the essential amino acids are available; however, if I am vegan, I would have to eat a variety of different protein sources to ensure all the essential amino acids are available.
Essential amino acids include: luecine, lysine, phenylalanine, valine, threonine, isoleucine, methionine, & tryptophan.
HowToChangeTheWorld 9 months ago
@HowToChangeTheWorld Or.. you an eat potatoes, thats a complete protein, or tomatoes.. legumes.. brown rice, barley.. oats.. oatmeal :) There is a misconception that plants are not a complete protein. Think about it, elephants, cows, all herbivores.. get enough proteins from a mono diet.. perhaps some have a little bit variety.. but they are strong like rock. =)
Mekelsior 9 months ago
@Mekelsior "Think about it [...] cows [...] get enough proteins from a mono diet."
No. Cows don't get all the amino acids they need from their diets. You've never heard of a rumen? Have you ever wondered why cows are called "ruminants"?
hitssquad 9 months ago
@hitssquad Not all plant eaters are ruminants ;) elephants, hippoes, giraffes, they eat a basic diet consisting of plant foods and they do not need any protein shakes to build their muslces, nor do humans. =)
Mekelsior 8 months ago
@Mekelsior "Not all plant eaters are ruminants"
That's right. But every animal that lives on cellulose ferments it.
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"elephants, hippoes, giraffes"
All three of those rely on gut fermentation to digest cellulose for them. Elephants are colon fermenters. "The hippo does not chew the cud but it's chambered stomach suggests that it has a ruminant-like digestion, which is why it has been termed a "pseudo-ruminant". (The hippos: natural history and conservation By Stewart Keith Eltringham)
hitssquad 8 months ago
@Mekelsior "Not all plant eaters are ruminants [...] giraffes"
Actually, the giraffe is indeed a ruminant: google. com/search?q=giraffe+ruminants "San Diego Zoo's Animal Bytes: Giraffe
The giraffe is a ruminant and has a stomach with four compartments that digests the leaves it eats. When giraffes aren't eating, they are chewing their cud."
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All large animals that eat cellulose ferment it in some way. For example: mountain gorillas. They ferment the leaves they eat in their (very large) colons.
hitssquad 8 months ago
@hitssquad You are arguing that the protein is in the cellulose only, this is however not the case. =) If you go to John McDougalls webpage and do some searching on proteins you will find a list over the amount of proteins reccomended and the amount that is found in plants, it is more than enough in pretty much every single plant. Few humans however eat a mono diet and would rather combine a few. It is however telling that the Asian and Southern Amercican population gets enough protein on starch
Mekelsior 8 months ago
@Mekelsior "You are arguing that the protein is in the cellulose only"
No. Where did you get that idea? The animals you listed, and many other "plant eaters", don't eat the same plants that human "plant eaters" eat. Instead, they eat cellulose. Bacteria in their guts convert this cellulose into protein, and then the animals digest that protein. Get it?
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"the Asian and Southern Amercican population gets enough protein on starch"
Starch is protein? Source?
hitssquad 8 months ago
@hitssquad Then there is no problem in getting protein on a vegan diet and we are thus at agreement. =) Did you know that human has an enzyme, amylaze that digest starches, and that other herbivores such as chimps, even though they do eat meat on occation, do not have the enzyme to digest starch? So then, even nature says that we are plant eaters, we also have a long intestines, grinding teeth and are not built as carnivores, nor are we scavengers... we are extremely resillient though.. ;)
Mekelsior 8 months ago
@hitssquad I did not say that starch is a protein, starch is a sugar, but foods rich in starch contain protein, it is a complete package if you will that supply the body with just enough fat and protein and carbs that the body needs. Take the potatoe for example, it delivers a complete range of amino acids in a wonderful package making it perfect for consumption. This is the truth when it comes to all foods rich in starch. =)
Mekelsior 8 months ago
@Mekelsior "Then there is no problem in getting protein on a vegan diet"
What would the fact that some animals can ferment cellulose in their guts have to do with whether there might be, for humans, a "problem in getting protein on a vegan diet"? Why are you using ruminant, pseudo-ruminant, and colon-fermenting animals as examples of what humans can do? Are you trying to say that you believe that humans can ferment cellulose in their guts, just as elephants, hippoes, and giraffes do?
hitssquad 8 months ago
@Mekelsior "herbivores such as chimps"
If chimps are herbivores, why do they eat insects and monkeys?: google. com/search?q=beyondveg+chimp+insects "most populations of chimpanzees are getting somewhere in the neighborhood of 5%* of their diet on average in most cases (as a baseline) to perhaps 8-10%* as a high depending on the season, as animal food--which in their case includes bird's eggs and insects in addition to flesh--particularly insects, which are much more heavily consumed [...] [75]"
hitssquad 8 months ago
@Mekelsior "chimps [...] do not have the enzyme to digest starch?"
Actually, they do, but it's produced at lower levels than in modern humans: google. com/search?q=beyondveg+chimp+amylase
Also, the human increase in amylase gene copies was recent: "individuals from populations whose traditional diet is high-starch, have more copies of the gene than individuals whose traditional diet is low starch. The increase in copies of AMY1 is estimated to have occurred within the last 200K years BP."
hitssquad 8 months ago
@Mekelsior "are not built as carnivores"
No one claimed humans were carnivores. Humans are adapted to eat meat, though: google. com/search?q=beyondveg+tract+length
...and this is shown by the fact that humans thrive disease-free on all-meat diets; and develop heart-disease, cancer, diabetes, and Alzheimer's disease when they instead consume carbohydrates. The fact that humans don't have the claws and jaws of carnivores is rendered irrelevant by their possession of the world's best hunting tool."
hitssquad 8 months ago
@hitssquad Oh alot of people are claiming that meat is the super food for humans... it is however false that human are "Disease free on all meat diets..." a friend of mine is on the Atkinson diet and he is very sick.. anyway Harvard has presented great research of the opposite, that carbs from whole food plant based sources are very beneficial to your health. Do a test, eat only meat for 1 month and test your blood work before and after, then do another test and eat plants for 1 month. =)
Mekelsior 8 months ago
@hitssquad It is a known fact that diabetes 1 is caused by milk animal food, so there goes your theory. As for diabetes type 2 it is caused by fat, refined products such as sodas and candy does contribute I suspect so does artifical sweeteners such as aspertame. People that are on a vegan diet such as the John McDougall diet are getting rid of all these diseases that you speak of, why is that? Why is not Asia, rural areas not filled with heart disease and diabetis and cancers? :)
Mekelsior 8 months ago
@hitssquad Yes, the chimp can, sorry if I stated something wrong, fact is human is BETTER, thus we are more vegetarian than chimps who have the major of their diet from fruits. When humans got this abbility to digest starch is complete irrelevant. =)
Mekelsior 8 months ago
@hitssquad Herbivore is the closest description on them as they eat mostly plant food, we could argue they are omnivore just as the bear and the dog. The point was however that humans are more vegetarian than chimps, and the article that you refer to is great support for that. =)
Mekelsior 8 months ago
@hitssquad You are again making the argument that these animals get their protein only from fermenting bacteria and thus that there are no proteins in plants other than what is in the fibre that we humans dont digest. Do you think that these animals only source of protein is in the fibre? If no then why argue that? :) We do not need as much protein as these big animals and thus whatever is in the digestible plant material is sufficient for us.
Mekelsior 8 months ago
@Mekelsior
All the protein sources you mentioned have plenty of carbs. I have an issue with eating carbs, as they increase the body’s insulin response, and in turn can lead to cancer and a host of other issues. I just made soup with chicken, cabbage, onions, bok choy, garlic, eggs, lemon juice, pepper and a pinch of brown rise. All I need with minimal carbs. I’d rather get my calories from fat then from sugar, but that’s just me.
HowToChangeTheWorld 8 months ago
@HowToChangeTheWorld There are plenty of research done that a diet change can cure diabetes types 2, all food that you eat cause an insulin reaction, dairy and meat products as well, insulins job is to clean the blood from glucose and fats, so it store fats into fat cells and if you have a low mithrocondia (I think that is how you spell it..) count then your cells will be filled up with fat and thus you trigger insulin reactions and have to much glucose in the blood.
Mekelsior 8 months ago
@HowToChangeTheWorld The body runs solely on glucose, it converts the energy from fat into usable energy it is more taxing to the body to do so but it does so in times of famine, fat is excellent to store energy however and all fat you eat are usually just stored as fat in your body while carbs are utilized as heat energy. There are no diabetic herbivores, but there are diabetic pets, think about that one for a moment ;)
Mekelsior 8 months ago
@HowToChangeTheWorld Carbs are not dangerous if they come from whole foods, I do not reccomend eating refined foods. There is a doctor, Bernard.. I think you may have heard of him, that fed diabetics type 2 fruits and all kind of low glycemic index foods, most fruits are actually low on this scale due to the contents of fibre and water. Some say that sugar cause cancer but it is very unlikely, check out the McDougall diet it has been shown to be beneficial for diabetics, cancer patients ect.
Mekelsior 8 months ago
@HowToChangeTheWorld Google: "Sunwarrior Protein"
skolman78 8 months ago 6
@skolman78 I have no problem what so ever eating animals. They taste soo good.
HowToChangeTheWorld 8 months ago
@HowToChangeTheWorld That's called sociopathology, it's a mental disorder, bro. Derp google it.
jackdtroughton 8 months ago
@jackdtroughton lol. I don’t know why you assume I’m a bro? You may not understand or appreciate the role carnivores and omnivores play in ecosystems, but I do. Animals that eat other animals, like carnivores and omnivores are important to any ecosystem, because they keep other species from getting overpopulated. So, it’s okay for my well fed cat to kill and eat mice, however, if I eat meat I am deemed immoral?
A sociopath wouldn’t spend 2 weeks nursing the same cat back to life as I did.
HowToChangeTheWorld 8 months ago
@HowToChangeTheWorld Bro isn't a gender distinction OTI, bro. It's used to talk down to people through irreverence.
I've considered and factored it in, and also the suffering of all animals, and the ability of humans to realize this and its ramifications on the animal. Your cat is not subject to the parameters you are, it's a simple creature.
Sociopath is obviously the wrong mental disorder.
That cat, and humans, are no different in their right to live, you can't make a distinction there.
jackdtroughton 8 months ago
@jackdtroughton Listen brother… It’s funny how you overtly talk down to me and yet I am the sociopath… I’m a vegan do-gooder, look at me. Lol, I’m just trying to “get your goat,” and when I get it, I’ll eat that goat. LMAO
HowToChangeTheWorld 8 months ago
@jackdtroughton An animal's right to live is enforced by whom, you? All creatures have a "natural right" to defend themselves, but nobody has a right to live. All life forms are actually food for other forms of life. How about the plants right to live???
HowToChangeTheWorld 8 months ago
@HowToChangeTheWorld Oh will you just stop? You're a murderer, stop justifying.
jackdtroughton 8 months ago
@jackdtroughton
murder, n. The killing of a human being with malice aforethought.
– Blacks Law Dictionary 2010
You are the one with the sickness. You would have me put in jail for eating meat. Go play a game of hide and go $@#% yourself.
HowToChangeTheWorld 8 months ago
@HowToChangeTheWorld pisz po polsku, bo nie rozumie. ;)
Google: wiki Tempeh
youtube: Turning Soybeans into Chicken (Mizzou)
skolman78 8 months ago
@skolman78 Thanks. It does look kind of like chicken, but I can’t eat soy.
HowToChangeTheWorld 8 months ago
@HowToChangeTheWorld but it smells and tastes just like chicken.
There's no evidence that soya is harmful for health.
Google: "guardian Ignore the anti-soya scaremongers"
[ ncbi . nlm . nih . gov/ pubmed/ 21462322 ] - no spaces.
skolman78 8 months ago
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skolman78 8 months ago
Wikipedia about soy:
Men
Because of the phytoestrogen content, some studies have suggested that soybean ingestion may influence testosterone levels in men. However, a 2010 meta analysis of 15 placebo controlled studies showed that neither soy foods nor isoflavone supplements alter measures of bioavailable testosterone or estrogen concentrations in men [100] Furthermore, soy consumption has been shown to have no effect on the levels and quality of sperm [102]
skolman78 8 months ago
@skolman78 how does one go about finding non-GM soy?
HowToChangeTheWorld 8 months ago
@megamicron Check out Dr John McDougall he reccomends a starch based diet that will supply with all the nutrients you need, you get enough power to be as active as you want and you will loose weight if you are overweight. People are ultra marathon iron man, bodybuilders and all kinds of active on his regiment. It is also easy, you eat as much as you want, until you are full and then thats that. =) There is sadly so much misconception going on in this world regarding diet.. but check it out! :)
Mekelsior 9 months ago
I I have no problem with Vegans being vegan i just hate when i am watching hunting videos and i see an asshole saying leave the deer alone.
b99b12 9 months ago
@b99b12 yeah because thats what all vegans do. You cant have a problem with the group in general just because of what a couple of them are like
9494blahblah 9 months ago
Just eat what the hell you want, and stop hatin'
13Kukis 9 months ago
maybe if he ate meat he wouldnt be a tiny ass body builder...
nolanlott56 9 months ago
@nolanlott56 haha. Is ignorance bliss?
KardKaper 9 months ago
@KardKaper yes
nolanlott56 9 months ago
@nolanlott56 1. Vegans dont contribute to global warming, unlike stupid meat eaters who love killing the earth and are obviously suicidal!
2. Vegans are SUPER FRIGGIN HOT! They have naturally sexy pale skin, unlike meat eaters who get suntans and burn their skin like morons, aww.
3. Vegans probably live at least 50 years longer than meat eaters, 130 years vs 60 years for meat eaters, you decide!
4. Hunters are almost all fat asses.
Vegan Superiority Confirmed, Jealous Omnivores! teehee!
VegansAreSuperior 9 months ago
@VegansAreSuperior haha ive heard arguments for veganism that make valid points but this one of yours is new haha. i could take time to pick apart your arguement but i wont waste my time because any intelligent person who reads that will know why its a joke. if you want to be a vegan go ahead im not trying to change the way you live i just made a joke about the guy in the video so dont try to preach veganism with false facts. you live your life ill live mine.
nolanlott56 9 months ago
@nolanlott56 PROVEN SCIENTIFIC FACS: all vegan animals are intelligent and thriving while all carnivore species are stupid and dying off!
Vegan Superiority Confirmed yet again! TEEHEE!
VegansAreSuperior 9 months ago
@nolanlott56 its so funny how people are getting so annoyed at him. hes just talking about what foods have protein. I really dont see the need to argue. so settle down theres no need be an asshole.
9494blahblah 9 months ago
@9494blahblah how am i being an asshole? who is annoyed at the guy in the video? the guy makes valid points, there is protein in a bunch of stuff and if you want to get protein while being a vegan listen to this guy. i personally eat meat and animal products along with many of the things he mentions in the video. i made a joke and the vegans attack. i know some respectable vegans and 9494blahblah you seem to be one if you are vegan, but the person that was argueing with me is not
nolanlott56 9 months ago
@nolanlott56 oops i didnt mean for my comment to sound so aggressive. sorry. I dont necessarily mean you but all the other people who are bagging him and talking about how they dont like vegans
9494blahblah 9 months ago
the cause of veganism would do better without people promoting themselves like Joshua Katcher, who was paid mega bucks to promote Lord and Taylor, a company that sells fur. Yet he harasses old women who wear it. Walk the walk. Don't pretend to save the world, animals will always kill each other in the wild
clittyclitty1 9 months ago
@camq8907 God created humans too. Should we eat them?
Snicky1271 9 months ago
how do u get vitamin B-12
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adamarmy12 10 months ago
@camq8907 whats the difference if god is infinite
GovnaBuckingham 10 months ago
thank you! my dad keeps nagging on how you only get proteine from meat fuck him turn green!
DestructionBattery 10 months ago
2:33 "... maybe a [what?] of protein per pound of body weight..." Gram?
RichieJohnSauls 10 months ago
i got your protein right here!
delisandwich5 10 months ago
animal protein isnt the same as a broccoli, our body doesnt absorb the vegetables protein aswell... its the sad truth. Im a vegan too, but we gotta say the facts.
TheLaughRoom 10 months ago
@TheLaughRoom. Animal protein gives cancer - it was proven with the China Study, and what you say is wrong. Read study papers like I have and get the facts - look at the US, obese and dying!
adamramoth 10 months ago
@adamramoth ... i dont think so, i mean we all have different opinions, my parents both say animal protein is necessary and i dont think it can give cancer 2/3 of the population would have cancer, now people is saying everything gives cancer..
TheLaughRoom 10 months ago
@TheLaughRoom ..... You may want to read "The China Study" written by Dr. T. Colin Campbell. He will tell you why food from animals (meat, fish, eggs, diary give cancer and all kinds of disease to human. A lot of old knowledge is wrong. Try to do some updated research. Good luck! ;-)
chunghsingjung 10 months ago
@chunghsingjung but my parents are doctors aswell): Anyway :D i'll go and check it out, it would be a lot easier to convince my parents ;) as u know im a vegan, and having them all the time bothering.. gosh.. thanks(:
TheLaughRoom 10 months ago
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chunghsingjung 10 months ago
@TheLaughRoom I wouldn't get info like this from you parents
Snicky1271 9 months ago
@Snicky1271 they are both doctors...
TheLaughRoom 9 months ago
@TheLaughRoom It is possible they are uninformed, as there is a lot of literature available (scientific studies, journal articles, scientific reviews) that state otherwise
Snicky1271 9 months ago
@Snicky1271 not everyone in this world can have our oppinion. not because im a vegan im right, and not because they're meateaters they're right, its just a different point of view, i really dont know how a doctor would be uninformed about this...
TheLaughRoom 9 months ago
@TheLaughRoom I completely agree that everyone is entitled to an opinion, yet some opinions are unfounded, especially when relating to science. One could have an opinion that eating plastic is healthful, however scientific evidence proves otherwise. I am a vegetarian as well, yet not due to opinion, but due to evidence suggesting that my diet will increase my body's health
Snicky1271 9 months ago
@Snicky1271 but being a vegetarian is different to being a vegan :s
TheLaughRoom 9 months ago
@camq8907 god isnt even real
GovnaBuckingham 10 months ago
thank you, I never knew grains had protein. I learned something today.
atlantoon 10 months ago
If you are vegan and own a dog, you are a callous hypocrite. Does your dog turn circles before he lays down? Gobbles his food as if a predator is going to take it? Does he chase bunnies in his sleep? That is because Fido, Bandit or Rover is yearning to be free. He is a primal beast ready to be returned to a feral existance. Not some lawn ornament to be fed your nasty organic vegan hippie dog food. Do your pup a favor and set him free.
granitehills2t 11 months ago
@granitehills2t I don't get it when people say that you should be a vagan because we aren't biologically programmed to eat meat but then feed a dog or cat a vegan diet. The dog and cat are predators as you have stated and does show a kink in their theory.
I don't really mind what people eat. I just don't like it when people are not tolerant of my choices of what I want to eat.
I love broccoli but who can eat it without butter and shredded cheese?
chubbypekingnese 11 months ago
@chubbypekingnese Yeah and they murder bacteria with anti-bacterial soap, rob rabbits, gophers, and insects of their food source, not to mention pissing people like me so that we take out our aggression by eating even more meat.
granitehills2t 11 months ago
@chubbypekingnese I've never heard somebody argue we aren't programmed to eat meat. Who cares? There's no drive in that argument, the real reasons lie in not eating meat cause we're human enough to make that choice and because we've gone unsustainably far in the direction of killing animals in production lines. How far will that go? It's the best option for sustainability as a whole, not for selfish reasons. And there's a cost to living, animals die as we do. "why make it worse" is the reason
ofdarknessandlight 11 months ago
@ofdarknessandlight What do you mean you've never heard that arguement. I guess you must be new to the debate.
As far as sustainablity, the livestock industry is bigger than it has ever been.
30 or years ago we were told that the Earth's resources would not be able to provide for a population in excess of 5 billion people. We are well beyond that now and we produce more meat products than we did 30 years ago.
it's only worst fo the livestock not those who consume them.
chubbypekingnese 11 months ago
@chubbypekingnese So you're saying that we've managed to produce enough meat and that there's no issue there? To say we're "beyond that" is to turn a blind eye. It's the easy option. I'm a vegetarian myself, but personally for me it's about not doing things the comfortable way. Should we carry on the way we're going just because nothing disastrous has happened when they said it would? It means we've compromised. No facts here but it's obvious anyone can increase livestock output by cramming more
ofdarknessandlight 11 months ago
@chubbypekingnese oh, by "I've never heard that argument" I think I just meant I don't follow it so much, regardless of who says it. It's a bit of a non argument to me, from vegans. What we're programmed to do or not doesn't come in to what's sustainable or good. One could argue the world isn't worth sustaining and you think the human race should fade as quickly as possible, so I wouldn't put too much of a point behind why we should "sustainable". People will go very far to contradict themselves
ofdarknessandlight 11 months ago
@granitehills2t Dogs have been domesticated over hundreds of years and if they were let out into the woods, they would not have the necessary neural systems to deal with the environment. Most likely they would die from starvation as they no longer have the instinct to hunt. However, with regard to veganism, it makes total biological sense for humans to only eat vegetables and nuts. There is nothing unnatural about this.
Snicky1271 9 months ago
@Snicky1271 That is why we need to start re-education camps for dogs to be wild again. All it would take is selective breeding and a park for them to learn to be feral without starvation. That would be easy since we should ban meat and will have vast expances of land available for wild life and sacred cows. Only a facsist police state could pull off such an epic idea so we should do that too. We need to undo the cruelty that we cause to the dog's soul.
granitehills2t 9 months ago
With statements like "We'd get enough protein from broccoli alone", this "expert" shows that he has no idea of nutrition. Protein is not protein -- the profile of various amino acids matters -- and that profile should be balanced, but isn't in a vegan diet. E.g. Lysine deficiency. Also, the big vegan protein sources are full of phytates and other nasties that block uptake of important nutrients. Tofu is unhealthy and highly processed.
ccd101 11 months ago
I was raised to believe in a balanced diet, which unfortunately involves meat and cheese. But if it means anything, I won't eat red meat, just chicken and fish.
hypnodance 11 months ago
VEGAN BODYBUILDING>>LMAO ROFL
Pretending2Bsmart 11 months ago 2
@Pretending2Bsmart why is that funny?
jeff4bucks 10 months ago
@Pretending2Bsmart
because it is an oxymoron
Pretending2Bsmart 10 months ago
@Pretending2Bsmart You ROLF = fat guy rolling on the floor
Snicky1271 9 months ago
Food is not sustaining the human body. The highest teachings will always be 1. all food is poison, 2. ejaculation is for having kids only, 3. not working out and shaping your reality, is letting the society shape your reality.
There is a lot of new info coming out on breatharianism. I dont encourage people to stop eating, sit there, get anorexic, skinny, die, but to exercise and really study all these myths, I used to spend 100s of dollars on protein and Im pissed to find out its all bs...
vaporsofgold 1 year ago
Scientists have ascertained that the most nutritious & economic meal known is Chefboyardee Beef Ravioli (The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, Nov 1, 2010; 92 [5]) “This should come as no surprise”, quipped ConAgra Foods / Chefboyardee CEO Gary Rodkin, “…here at Chefboyardee we pride ourselves on high quality product, aimed at supplying all the essential nutrients.” Study conducted by the Linus Pauling Institute, Oregon State University, with partial funding from ConAgra Foods.
32Iroomi321 11 months ago
Scientists have ascertained that the most nutritious & economic meal known is Chefboyardee Beef Ravioli (The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, Nov 1, 2010; 92 [5]) “This should come as no surprise”, quipped ConAgra Foods / Chefboyardee CEO Gary Rodkin, “…here at Chefboyardee we pride ourselves on high quality product, aimed at supplying all the essential nutrients.” Study conducted by the Linus Pauling Institute, Oregon State University, with partial funding from ConAgra Foods.
32Iroomi321 11 months ago
Awesome job, Robert!
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vaporsofgold 1 year ago
Most people who are eating meat proteins that say vegans don't get enough, those are the people who don't eat much veggies.
godsfiddler 1 year ago
You Rock. Thanks for sharing this. I get tired of being asked how I get my protein.
JBJund 1 year ago 12
I don't know how anyone can think being Vegan is Unhealthy..on Oct. 27th I donated a Kidney to my Mother and to do so, i had get a lot of tests done on me, not just to make sure that i was a match for her, but to make sure I was healthy enough to have surgery and live with just one Kidney. And every one of my tests came back in perfect health. Zero problems. GO VEGAN
MyOwnCasket 1 year ago 2
That guy looks like a fucking child rapist and to bad if you think your a vegan good luck with that assholes that's what by products are for
dirtbiker2671 1 year ago
uhhhh do whatever you want. I've been vegan for 5years and the main problem is that this planet is over populated and I cant wait to see how humans become extinct and to what extremes we'll try to survive. Everything ends muahahahahaha
paulrob555 1 year ago
You are misguided. Grains and legumes are bad for you, especially wheat.
entropyfu 1 year ago
@entropyfu Definitely. Processed consumerism America has saved us!!!
Snicky1271 9 months ago
Beans, Legumes, and Grains are 3rd world, incomplete proteins. Vegan diets are incompatible with reality.
entropyfu 1 year ago
I was a vegan, but even eating plants causes harm to the earth. All true Vegans and Liberals do what I am going to do. Kill yourself. If we aren't alive we can't hurt the Earth. Please kill yourself immediately. Every day you stay alive you spit in the face of animals and plants.
andrew19k 1 year ago
@andrew19k many people in fact support the voluntary human extinction movement.
cafeaulait69 1 year ago
@andrew19k
How does eating plants cause harm to the earth? Tell me as you go. Some beatings are being free. just leasten to a cheat.
"A cheat what?"
Fixed myself a bowl of vegetables. Ice cold water and jump up fruits. Gonna be a long day so I throw on my boots...
Chill out, man!
greenwoodonearth 1 year ago
Good video though
atraherne 1 year ago
Does he know the population size of his country?
atraherne 1 year ago