@realityexplorations everyone is open to their opinions... and i respect yours... I just don't see how anyone could know 1 or 2 is not ours? My feeling is ebt's would be more advanced and not so "out" in the open. Government has been working with Anti-gravity since Pro. Townsend Brown in the late 50's. Our UFO program has many names like Silverbug, but the really impressive ones are top secret. Look into Secret Astronauts program. It's been well documented by none other than John Lear.
@smartbeatz i agree with your view, however if you gone far as i have into it, your know thiers are seemless no rivets no seems no sound. plus often the craft themselfs are atctually trasndimensional. hard to explain these physics , and yes gov inside gov has worked on these craft, but not attained anything close enough to the real thing yet
i know about those programs you speak of
im replying to you as i think your inteligent enough to learn more, most on youtube are not and usually trolls
@realityexplorations Trolls are everywhere these days aren't they lol... I would be interested in what you know. I do research in my spare time, and have been for the past 10 yrs.. I especially enjoy Brown and Tesla myself. Yes I also agree they are transdimensional and feel the frequency of the earth is rising to expand into the 4th density. I believe that is why people report seeing shimmers of light with vivid colors. What are you views on Shambhala/Agartha and Byrd?
@smart Shambhala i understand is budhist spiritutalisum i havent researched this area as much, but do agree that meditation & spiritual growth & ultimatly thought is the real isuses & reality of nature. u may have heard of the various forms of remote viewing some done with meditation some not, interestingly a lot of modern day budhist groups now reply somthing like ''the wise ones are allways watching'' to the question ''what do they think of ufos'' and claim of comunication via remote viewing
Belive it or not Free energy is real,But the Oil coporations life depends on covering this up,Go to LT-MAGNET-MOTORdotCOM and get the blueprints for a genuine magnet motor ,Join the energy revolution!
@RyanDaMan31 the governement in every country will never disclose information to the public they will just either make an excuse or leak a fake information or totally something else... each country got there own secrets and the military itself are trying to find a way to use alien tech for their own benefits and sorry.
Die scum, how much is government paying you to create more skeptics? huh? you are dumbing down the population to buy into the government schemes and blue book nonsence, there are real space crafts visiting this earth, it is true. Dont give up the search and watch the sky's, the true believers will see the true encounters, Eat shit and die you fucking idiots making these spoofs, and giving them legit titles.
REAL Amazing video is also on our page: The Pyramid Shaped UFO was captuerd this weekend on video as it flew over New York. You have got to see this come to our page we have the exclusive footage at GWETV.
aliens are gay crack smokers with fuckall better to do than kidnap people and stick things in thier holes. i'm sorry but here we call it a criminal offence to kidnap and stick things inside people. they need to hand themselves in to answer years of abuse charges and the goverments say they are no threat to national security well excuse fucking me ,what about peoples private security eh. they should fuck off back to where they came from and stop nonsing humans, fucking gay as fuck e.t's
lol do you guys REALLY think that aliens are that stupid to show themselves to us? we are nothing to them.. we dont even show up on their radar yet,.. nope ittl take maaaaaaaaaaany more years before they will even know we are here ^^
hello friends, i love you all and yes aliens do not exist, but santa claus DOES, i saw that pig eating pizza :) peaze and love from planet ALIENSAREHERE from the constilation HUMANSAREINDENIAL
It's the 21st century, and people all over the world have high-tech cameras--even in their phones! Yet the footage of alien spacecraft is as grainy and unconvincing as ever.
Is there intelligent life elsewhere in the universe? Probably. Is it visiting earth? There's not a shred of credible evidence that would make one think so.
I'm not talking about those videos too. But you can see alien signs in all kind of ways. Nazca lines, pyramids, human's drawings on the wall, on paper, on caves and so on... Just search for it.
Alien "signs" don't constitute evidence. Drawings--whether on paper, papyrus, pyramids, or plains--mean nothing.
I'm talking about tangible, physical evidence. A piece from an alien spacecraft, for example, that was a clear and unequivocal example of advanced technology.
How could NASA deny the existence of aliens (and why WOULD they)? The issue isn't whether ETs exist--maybe they do, maybe they don't. The issue is whether we have good reasons to think they're visiting Earth.
I saw the STS-80 video. Unidentified lights. Big whoop. Some strange meteorological phenomenon? Space debris (which, if spinning, would reflect sunlight and appear to flash)? Who knows? I see no sign of an alien spaceship.
researched over ten years.. not one shred of evidence and everytime you think 'this one may be real' you're able to debunk it within a day. That's why I no longer care if they exist or not, just happy to see good CG every once in a while.
@SiriusUfosummoner7 how can you tell exactly i though it kinda looked real until it took off lol im not callin u a liar i jast wanna know how to find out for sure if a vid is fake!!
uh.....he states in the info of this video that "Of course its a fake". if some of you would just read that, you wouldn't be making an ass of yourself.
Beware of the the feeble minded posts here. 90% of all comments on all credible videos are called fakes. Those born with unevolved feeble sheep brains that lack the capacity to accept reality. The government relies on these devolved minds to discredit and debunk the truth. They truly cannot help themselves understand because their minds are infant and lack the enlightenment and density needed to accept. They were born with this mind hindered characteristic.
dude! stop already with the fake ufo footage spread out over different you tube accounts because it doesnt help the real sh*t from being exposed. go join the Galactic federation of light or somethin. then you can look stupid with them on 10-15-08
It looks a LOT like a moth on a window with a view on the forest. And the way it suddenly 'flies' off further makes it look like a bug close-up rather than a spacecraft or whatever...
lol... all you people say is fake this fake that.. the lighting is wrong... its some other crap. like you know what exactly is going on in the universe that you know if there are aliens or other type of lifeforms. get out of your little boxes and actually pay attention to whats actually going on instead of right away assuming
well then if it soooo real, why can you here only the crickets in the backround, and dont say they have SUPER MUTE ENGINES! cuz i wont even consider that. i think its a bug, im sure it is, looks like a mosquitoe thats out of focus
I would be interested in hearing your thoughts of what you feel is 'going on in the universe'.. I have some ideas myself, but you have to admit, this particular video is not a genuine. The vessel pops out from its surroundings as if it has been layered on top of forrest fire footage.
Looks like the TR3-B to me, which is not fake. It's U.S. made by Lockheed Martin.
DDoyleReynolds 2 months ago in playlist More videos from guildenstren
I feel used.
jasonfish07 2 months ago
fucking fake lmao!
ExoticTwisted 3 months ago
YOU TUBE should consider this kind of video as SPAM!!
krapow71 4 months ago
now i saw thoose vids of "TheFakingHoaxer" on youtube i don't believe all thoose ufo vids anymore. 99% is FAKE
BIGeSTRING 5 months ago
show us real truth only truth show us real love only love!
NeoDyne112 5 months ago
Why do people keep making these stupid videos??
mckx5 5 months ago
Looks like the secret military airplane i saw pics of somewhere else.
Mikeyc826 5 months ago
po chuju ufo
marcin28marc 5 months ago
what shitttt..................
harrybharaj 5 months ago
just a small rocket made in triangle which is kept in grass and camera blurred some gay lighten it and shoot that crap
mkarthikable 6 months ago
thats real to me if it isnt its the realest fake all of time i believe this one
fgypsy45 6 months ago
kiero un motor de esos jaja
jorgerle15 7 months ago
any triangle is ours... research...
smartbeatz 8 months ago
@smartbeatz mosty. there are one or two that are not though. and belive me i do research.
realityexplorations 8 months ago
@smartbeatz however this looks fake to me
realityexplorations 8 months ago
@realityexplorations everyone is open to their opinions... and i respect yours... I just don't see how anyone could know 1 or 2 is not ours? My feeling is ebt's would be more advanced and not so "out" in the open. Government has been working with Anti-gravity since Pro. Townsend Brown in the late 50's. Our UFO program has many names like Silverbug, but the really impressive ones are top secret. Look into Secret Astronauts program. It's been well documented by none other than John Lear.
smartbeatz 8 months ago
@smartbeatz i agree with your view, however if you gone far as i have into it, your know thiers are seemless no rivets no seems no sound. plus often the craft themselfs are atctually trasndimensional. hard to explain these physics , and yes gov inside gov has worked on these craft, but not attained anything close enough to the real thing yet
i know about those programs you speak of
im replying to you as i think your inteligent enough to learn more, most on youtube are not and usually trolls
realityexplorations 8 months ago
@realityexplorations Trolls are everywhere these days aren't they lol... I would be interested in what you know. I do research in my spare time, and have been for the past 10 yrs.. I especially enjoy Brown and Tesla myself. Yes I also agree they are transdimensional and feel the frequency of the earth is rising to expand into the 4th density. I believe that is why people report seeing shimmers of light with vivid colors. What are you views on Shambhala/Agartha and Byrd?
smartbeatz 8 months ago
@smart Shambhala i understand is budhist spiritutalisum i havent researched this area as much, but do agree that meditation & spiritual growth & ultimatly thought is the real isuses & reality of nature. u may have heard of the various forms of remote viewing some done with meditation some not, interestingly a lot of modern day budhist groups now reply somthing like ''the wise ones are allways watching'' to the question ''what do they think of ufos'' and claim of comunication via remote viewing
realityexplorations 8 months ago
Holy shit, your camera is nice.
Xjreme18 9 months ago
Looks pretty real man!
stewy178 9 months ago
twat
gazveeren 9 months ago
beef stock or chicken stock footage?? in other words... FAILED!!!
megaflyinbrian 9 months ago
why the fuck did i bother!
crookedwiretap89 9 months ago
OK...who farted?
zcg3 10 months ago
at 6 secs did someone shout hiel hitler?
reksub10 10 months ago 2
Fake? Is possibility...
MasterAndrea98 10 months ago
always the same no sharp video image
ahalilguzel 11 months ago
THATS FUCK YOU THE VIDEO
1234561271 11 months ago
please!!
BENTLEYQUAMP 11 months ago
REAL.
Beamshipcaptain 1 year ago
Uranus.
MangoZapp 1 year ago 2
planet Venus
rubyconem 1 year ago 2
thats a helicopter u dummies
alzym1 1 year ago
That's a stocking video! I'm so stocked by it, i need to sit down. Totally Stocking I'm in stock lol.
cakesofdeath 1 year ago
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cakesofdeath 1 year ago
thats a flie you stupeds
gilder2007 1 year ago
DAAAA
ispcablemas 1 year ago
Dear Guildersten,
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holmethorpe19 1 year ago
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fittingciobb 1 year ago
fokinng fake.
CachorroFantasma 1 year ago
cool
icoson 1 year ago
doin some 1970's goerge lucas shit.
electronicexposure 1 year ago
I would actually like to see our government disclose the truth about ufo's.
All of these fake video's cloud the truth and make it harder for people to distinguish the truth from hoaxes.
RyanDaMan31 1 year ago
@RyanDaMan31 the governement in every country will never disclose information to the public they will just either make an excuse or leak a fake information or totally something else... each country got there own secrets and the military itself are trying to find a way to use alien tech for their own benefits and sorry.
Shadowmage18 1 year ago
super sajan...hahahahahaha
mrhotgmail 1 year ago
No it was a real alien supa' supa' fly! lol
LotsovPhun 1 year ago
rubbish
JJoneEIGHTY 1 year ago
sony vegas
AwebosTV 1 year ago
Amazing footage
Briefy09 1 year ago
lmao when it comes to films about spotted UFO, the footage is ALWAYS crap ... always. XD
wapamup 1 year ago
you suck at making fakes asshole
RyanDaMan31 1 year ago
@RyanDaMan31 Wow Ryan, lets see you make a better one asshole :D
grrbabygrr08 1 year ago
you're gay...
wanshei 1 year ago
fake and gay xD
Barrigasvpa01 1 year ago
cazz!!
roccozzy 1 year ago
Fakeeeee! ¬_¬
nightde 1 year ago
Hiper fake!!!
Huauauauaha..
maurivirtua 1 year ago
Die scum, how much is government paying you to create more skeptics? huh? you are dumbing down the population to buy into the government schemes and blue book nonsence, there are real space crafts visiting this earth, it is true. Dont give up the search and watch the sky's, the true believers will see the true encounters, Eat shit and die you fucking idiots making these spoofs, and giving them legit titles.
koffinkat666 1 year ago
jajjj, esto lo tiene que saber mi mamita
Eder5837 1 year ago
no it was speedy gonzales
MrDutchjeff 1 year ago
im pretty sure that was a piece of pizza
RyanDaMan31 1 year ago
I like how they tried to add people voices getting scared at the end lol
sypha0x 1 year ago
REAL Amazing video is also on our page: The Pyramid Shaped UFO was captuerd this weekend on video as it flew over New York. You have got to see this come to our page we have the exclusive footage at GWETV.
GWETVNetwork 1 year ago
fake
ghostman3331 1 year ago
хуйня номер 2
pravdoryb 1 year ago
why dont the real aliens come down kick the shit out of you phoney fucks!!
spacecop67 1 year ago
Mr. Obviouses are striking over and over again!!!
pamboya 1 year ago
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aliens are gay crack smokers with fuckall better to do than kidnap people and stick things in thier holes. i'm sorry but here we call it a criminal offence to kidnap and stick things inside people. they need to hand themselves in to answer years of abuse charges and the goverments say they are no threat to national security well excuse fucking me ,what about peoples private security eh. they should fuck off back to where they came from and stop nonsing humans, fucking gay as fuck e.t's
azeivio 1 year ago
Fake
1973Hybrid 1 year ago
not bad for a first timer (cgi shit or what ever)i hope!?!?!?!
if its not its a disaster and disgrace 2 fake it self
ddustheavya 1 year ago
Super fake!
Publisher1000 1 year ago
It is false and also a poor job. Ridiculous.
CHOLACHACAL 1 year ago
"hell" shot.
f8e20fm1 1 year ago
F A K E
carlosvanilla 1 year ago
judas fake
NAVEGANTE1900 1 year ago
fake
ScotteDunlap 1 year ago
look at the time it restarts then it goes to 7 secs
baxter193 1 year ago
hahahahahah this its so fucking lame
ShadXWK 1 year ago
video was edited with Sony Vegas ) trust me ))
seniorv5 2 years ago 2
says its fake in the info stop trollin lol
sharkybushbaby 2 years ago
lets somke a blunt
juanquik 2 years ago
Pathetic . This footage? debunks any seriouse UFO Footage, that could be out there, keeep looking up people.
pegasus7708 2 years ago
What video game is this?
qqqTOXICqqq 2 years ago
lol do you guys REALLY think that aliens are that stupid to show themselves to us? we are nothing to them.. we dont even show up on their radar yet,.. nope ittl take maaaaaaaaaaany more years before they will even know we are here ^^
robinchwan 2 years ago
Yes, I saw Oprah the other day
luc59457 2 years ago
don`t be fooled we ar very interesting to them.. we are the beggining of evelution...
It;s like us looking at dinasours... we are very interesting...
Especially horse and buggy 100 years ago to space travel. Big jump in a short time.
Dorisequador 2 years ago
if that is even real it looks like a military aircraft.... such as the stealth bomber
jmcg057 2 years ago
i heard people shouting in the background
pilotdave1000 2 years ago
hello friends, i love you all and yes aliens do not exist, but santa claus DOES, i saw that pig eating pizza :) peaze and love from planet ALIENSAREHERE from the constilation HUMANSAREINDENIAL
clipbrowser 2 years ago
I've researched plenty. There is NO evidence.
Wruff 2 years ago
As fake as my ex-wife's orgasms.
ClumsyRoot 2 years ago
dumb fake
rricoy 2 years ago
it was a fly! ha!
EkatherinaGrafinia 2 years ago
fake oh its a fake bloody fake blah blah blah . does no one read the info
sharkybushbaby 2 years ago
FAKE
jellyboy123 2 years ago
lmao nice little boom sound effect a tad bit after it 'jumped' away lol
thekicker832 2 years ago
ahahah ma che cavolate ma sti pp daun sti strunz
luluapazz 2 years ago
It's the 21st century, and people all over the world have high-tech cameras--even in their phones! Yet the footage of alien spacecraft is as grainy and unconvincing as ever.
Is there intelligent life elsewhere in the universe? Probably. Is it visiting earth? There's not a shred of credible evidence that would make one think so.
ClumsyRoot 2 years ago
Actually there is lots of evidence, just research.
ShaCRaM 2 years ago
I'm not talking about grainy, out-of-focus video and questionable eyewitness testimony. I'm talking hard, physical evidence.
ClumsyRoot 2 years ago
I'm not talking about those videos too. But you can see alien signs in all kind of ways. Nazca lines, pyramids, human's drawings on the wall, on paper, on caves and so on... Just search for it.
ShaCRaM 2 years ago
Alien "signs" don't constitute evidence. Drawings--whether on paper, papyrus, pyramids, or plains--mean nothing.
I'm talking about tangible, physical evidence. A piece from an alien spacecraft, for example, that was a clear and unequivocal example of advanced technology.
ClumsyRoot 2 years ago
type STS-80. This is the ORIGINAL NASA photage. And look what E.T. capable off. Also NASA never denie that aliens exist.
ShaCRaM 2 years ago
How could NASA deny the existence of aliens (and why WOULD they)? The issue isn't whether ETs exist--maybe they do, maybe they don't. The issue is whether we have good reasons to think they're visiting Earth.
I saw the STS-80 video. Unidentified lights. Big whoop. Some strange meteorological phenomenon? Space debris (which, if spinning, would reflect sunlight and appear to flash)? Who knows? I see no sign of an alien spaceship.
Again, where's the EVIDENCE?
ClumsyRoot 2 years ago
Sorry, but you are blind person. No offence.
ShaCRaM 2 years ago
If I blind, how can I used YouTube in the first place? ;)
ClumsyRoot 2 years ago
researched over ten years.. not one shred of evidence and everytime you think 'this one may be real' you're able to debunk it within a day. That's why I no longer care if they exist or not, just happy to see good CG every once in a while.
trisky1234 2 years ago
hey how old are you?
SPAGHETTIMONSTER1 2 years ago
Fake.
TheSecretSword 2 years ago
its a helicopter
ianwhy12345 2 years ago
HAHAHAHHAHAA!~~~~~~!!!!! funny stuff!
VictorLooser 2 years ago
\/\/ /\ /\/ !<
zombiegod 2 years ago 2
o.m.g.
sparkie1j 2 years ago
Wank
NAMZR160 2 years ago 9
BEST COMMENT YET
sharkybushbaby 2 years ago
@NAMZR160 yer he she wanks of a lot that is why they upload this bullshit
gavva2250 1 year ago
pure shit
56alby56 2 years ago 2
shitooo
johnnyspencerstorm 2 years ago
Fake! Someone is using video editing software.
SiriusUfosummoner7 2 years ago 15
@SiriusUfosummoner7 how can you tell exactly i though it kinda looked real until it took off lol im not callin u a liar i jast wanna know how to find out for sure if a vid is fake!!
csrepair 1 year ago
worp speed in 3 2 1 bziuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
Brzozowiczps 2 years ago
CAZZATA
zetafab 2 years ago
lmfaooooooooooooooooooo!!
yeah I'm gonna have fuckin nightmares tonight over this video.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
PussyFartperfume 2 years ago
billy miers wanna be!
amobofone 3 years ago
Is it realfaco
techjoe040669 3 years ago
For fuck's sake, you're 39 years old. Grow up, alright?
porfavormeudeus 3 years ago
you suck!
electroncleanwipe 3 years ago 3
crapo
knowlesybeast 3 years ago
wth is that death star or fcking legos
skill499 3 years ago
lol
racerguy996 3 years ago
uh.....he states in the info of this video that "Of course its a fake". if some of you would just read that, you wouldn't be making an ass of yourself.
jubits 3 years ago 3
what camera didnt want to follow lame
ripcurl010 3 years ago
fucking fake...
manaka12012 3 years ago
Beware of the the feeble minded posts here. 90% of all comments on all credible videos are called fakes. Those born with unevolved feeble sheep brains that lack the capacity to accept reality. The government relies on these devolved minds to discredit and debunk the truth. They truly cannot help themselves understand because their minds are infant and lack the enlightenment and density needed to accept. They were born with this mind hindered characteristic.
giannicash 3 years ago 3
wow. :( this vid makes me so sad. some1 msg me!! xD U
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mixtapedon85 3 years ago
2012
the year of awareness
zevaz2002 3 years ago
dude! stop already with the fake ufo footage spread out over different you tube accounts because it doesnt help the real sh*t from being exposed. go join the Galactic federation of light or somethin. then you can look stupid with them on 10-15-08
inthamouthofmadness 3 years ago 3
lol XD
darkmaiden20 3 years ago
real...fake
AgenteSpecialeMulder 3 years ago
hehe looks like someone has zoooooooomed in on a flea and we all watching it jump! lol
dav1d2903 3 years ago
It so fake it even has the same sound effects as the other fake video you have.. LOL
OH MY GOD" lol
ejektro 3 years ago
Fake as Monopoly money! : D
Spaventacorvi 3 years ago
Monopoly money is real. I've seen it before.
jordanxxx 3 years ago
no camera shake , as if you would have a tripod at the ready
cgi
wannabeastarrover 3 years ago
ok who would belive that everyone!
webkinzjustin 3 years ago
FAKE!
locomike2012 3 years ago
itz the ship from x-men
Wullfz 3 years ago
WOW
billibhai 3 years ago
wek!
k falso la wea
axefred13 3 years ago
COME ON IT'S IMPOSSIBLE..SO FAKE
SilverMax23 3 years ago 3
TRUKO NOT UFO
MAIKESIERRA
CHILE
MAIKESIERRA 3 years ago
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blueyeswise 3 years ago
this reminds me of The Ring, the fly on the screen part.
DevilMousey 3 years ago
Youtube is not about 'You post and we believe' stuff...Go to a better company for more believable graphics...Show this on Cartoon Network.
milostylo07 3 years ago
But...its not a cartoon...
Kaiwynn 3 years ago
ufo's are gay
raze053 3 years ago 4
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ahahaha.. yer rite dude..
orsalis 3 years ago
i think it like a bug
fuhanping 3 years ago
LmfaO!
3lit3guitarist 3 years ago
I once seen 2 guys kissing in the park. That was the gayest thing I ever seen in my life. Until now.
LooneyPhil 3 years ago
lol animated fuckin gay
lolmoneylol 3 years ago
So FAKE!
MusicRule101 3 years ago
gayyyY!!!!
2bluemanfromspace2 3 years ago
what's that smoke?
christian6657 3 years ago
Damn, that was pretty horrible...lol
Foo3112 3 years ago
It looks a LOT like a moth on a window with a view on the forest. And the way it suddenly 'flies' off further makes it look like a bug close-up rather than a spacecraft or whatever...
Celestein 3 years ago
looks like a moth on the lens
calzr 3 years ago
ya i think ur right
only1kobe 3 years ago
I think you're right,man... your answer makes the most sense.
Hojun666 3 years ago
the meaning of life is to reach the maximum form of evolution.
kitfistro 3 years ago
LOL so it just happend that they pointed the camera at the top of a forest fake.
Mich7125 3 years ago
lol... all you people say is fake this fake that.. the lighting is wrong... its some other crap. like you know what exactly is going on in the universe that you know if there are aliens or other type of lifeforms. get out of your little boxes and actually pay attention to whats actually going on instead of right away assuming
yrep2001 3 years ago 2
well then if it soooo real, why can you here only the crickets in the backround, and dont say they have SUPER MUTE ENGINES! cuz i wont even consider that. i think its a bug, im sure it is, looks like a mosquitoe thats out of focus
alexsavoy22 3 years ago
I would be interested in hearing your thoughts of what you feel is 'going on in the universe'.. I have some ideas myself, but you have to admit, this particular video is not a genuine. The vessel pops out from its surroundings as if it has been layered on top of forrest fire footage.
Troland73 3 years ago
ahaaaaa its a fake lol
evilmetget9 3 years ago
101 % fake
bbkui 3 years ago 2
its a moskito in the lens
estebandoebolas 3 years ago
fake fake fake fake fake so fake
simtowbe 3 years ago 3
ABD nin yeni uçaklarindan işte
djtiestto 3 years ago
thats was... creepy o_o
fragclone 3 years ago
MERDA!!
pistolata2 3 years ago