CAT II ILS Approach into Birmingham

[efastMixer]

how do you taxi without collisions when its this foggy?

[FlyBHX]

@efastMixer by a comprehensive system of lighting in conjunction with ATC and a combination of reporting at holding points and in most airports surface movement radar.

[shiftysbrother]

Now that was a true CAT II. Lights+runway right at minimums. Well done.

[aviator1243]

Sounds like Rwy 6-24 in Birmingham AL. I land a Beechjet 400A there about four times a week. That runway is 12,002 Ft. long and 150 ft. wide.

[FlyBHX]

@aviator1243 No it's Birmingham UK EGBB, main runway 15/33. 06/24 was very short (some 1200m) and was closed years ago

[jofus2019]

No this was a good landing. He was hitting the centerline lights.

[aless2004]

I didn't hear you switching of the Auro Pilot.

[FlyBHX]

@aless2004 listen out for the "Autopilot" annunciator at about 45secs

[purdu3]

@aless2004 I heard it

[aless2004]

Thank you for the class Captain! I'll use this information on my next flight ( Flight simulator of course,hahahahaha) I love fly but the flying classes are expensive here in Brazil,we have to expend something around R$ 90.000,00 just to became a Comercial Pilot with 100 hours flew,and so,I use Flight Simulator,it's tipper. About the airport,the runway 06 / 24 is very short! Is that for small aircraft only? I think it's smaller than one there is in Guarujá SP Brasil..SBST.But it's interesting.

[FlyBHX]

@aless2004 06/24 at Birmingham has been closed for years as it's too short for most commercial aircraft. The only runway used now is 15/33

[aless2004]

He used full runway!!!

[FlyBHX]

@aless2004 In low visibility operation you often have to vacate at the end of the runway. The intermediate taxiway exits are not available, as is the case at Birmingham in this video.

[VIR092]

Superb approach and landing! In IFR conditions so tihick it feels that the runway comes up so much FASTER. Well done!

[FlyBHX]

@VIR092 it does indeed

[Muhammadz86]

great landing man

[maxamillion2006hotm]

Beautiful landing!!!

[IJariJuniorI]

balls of steel \o

[GGGunitNextLevel]

Amazing

[FlyBHX]

I can assure you that it was a CATII approach. Note the radar altimeter callout of 200ft at this stage the approach lights are not in sight. If it was a CATI approach the runway lights would have had to have been in sight well before that as the minimum decision height on a CATI approach is 200ft above the threshold. under EU-OPS.

[RStickMan22]

I did not notice the was a ERJ145 until after the comment.

[RStickMan22]

I think I would have called this CATIII.

[seproma]

Scary!

[rcflying53]

Those are the centerline lights you hear thumping. they aren't perfectly flat, you hear the tire running over the metal frame and lense. They are designed to be run over. I love hitting them to scare the passengers on takeoff and landing

[sotvfc]

haha thats horrible but funny

[SoCalFlya]

My kind of guy!

[Jezzbaldwin]

"They are designed to be run over. I love hitting them to scare the passengers on takeoff and landing".

So it's you who is behind all that nosewheel shimmy we keep getting!

Not really a bad practice, keeps the SLF awake, ready for the evac on the day you RTO and end up sitting nose low in the LLZ array.

[berndl]

impressive and tough

[sorted0blud]

cool.. you could hear the landing gear running over the center line

[mallo3b7]

Sure would suck if a deer happened to be sitting on the runway at the particular time.

[IdleWild999]

You're talking about 100 tonnes of steel bearing down onto tarmac at about 160 miles an hour, I don't think Bambi is going to be a problem.

[mallo3b7]

Yea but it sure would make a mess out of the deer. Probably cause a slight delay too

[b101aa2]

if it were a pig, the main gear on a commercial jet would collapse. when tractor/trailors hit pigs, they get smashed and usually go off rolling into a ditch. cheerio

[n4120p]

Very impressive landing, steel nerve and faithfull trust in the myriad of instruments involved to arrive at the threshold that clean, you 've got every thing so lined up that had to make an effort to miss the centerline lights thumping on the nose wheel ja ja.

Congrats pro job E.B.

[k4mik4ze84]

centerline lights are flush with the surface of the runway, there would be no bumping/thumping with the nose gear..

[Jerram89]

bumping is probably on the painted centrelines

[FlyBHX]

The bumping is indeed the nose gear travelling over the centreline lights. They're slightly raised above the surface a bit like cats eyes.

[iah145ca]

They are not flush they stick up above the surface approx. 3/8 of an inch that is the banging noise heard during the landing roll.

[Boeing757basher07]

Great Vid, Have done alot of research on Embraers aircraft (145's, 170's, 190's) I am aware that the autopilot has to be disconnected at 80 Feet above, And the aircraft isnt CAT3 Certified. Also you told me that you where a f/o i think for BA connect on the ERJ145's, Are you now with flybe ???

Also is that Caution Arual Alert when you finish the rollout A Brakes Hot message ?? Or a Spoiler Lvr Disagree ??

Do the ERJ145's have thrust Gates ?? As they have FADECS That monitor the engines.

[FlyBHX]

You are correct that the 145 is only cleared for Cat II with a manual landing from 80ft.

I am a Captain and have never worked for Flybe. (Here is not the place to state my employer- sorry)

Can't remember exactly what the aural warning was (been off the fleet too long now!, but it's perfectly normal to hear as part of the after landing clean-up process, as items get turned off. The 145 has a thrust detent and the fadecs control the thrust required at that phase of flight.

[Boeing757basher07]

Thanks for replying FlyBHX, Shame to hear you've been away from the 145 fleet, There such a beautiful Aircraft.

Thanks once again.

[FlyBHX]

I don't miss it that much to be honest. Prefer the 737.

[stlflyguy]

More than likely, after rollout, that's "No Takeoff Data" as the airplane figures out that it's on the ground and that there isn't any takeoff information loaded into the FADECs.

[FlyBHX]

That's the one. I remember now

[iah145ca]

The erj has one detent and buttons to select the thrust rating T/O ,CLB, CRZ etc. The caution message you hear is an eng no T/O data message. After landing the input perf data is removed and the message warns that this info hasn't been inserted. The a/p can be disconnected as low as 50 ft on a Cat II app.

[cptndavis]

Hi..

What is the minimum visiblity for a CAT II ILS? It looked like you has less than a quarter mile on that approach??

[FlyBHX]

Min visibility of 300m in the touchdown zone 125m in the midpoint & 75m at the end of the runway. It was 300m at the touchdown zone in this video.

[cinkmoot]

shouldnt that be a CAT III? One of the three...A, B or C?

[FlyBHX]

No it's a CAT II approach. The EMB145 is not cleared for CAT III as it has no autoland. At 80feet the autopilot is taken out for a manula landing.

[cinkmoot]

OIC.

Thanks for the info.....life is all about learning.

[DAMIAN483]

AC TYPE ?? EMB145 ? CRJ ? Airline, nice video best iv seen actualy.

[FlyBHX]

Embraer 145. Thanks for the comment!

[Jezzbaldwin]

Nice video, thanks! This is the one I direct SLF to should they moan following weather delays/holding. I think it should be shown on IFE and Check-in screens to boot.

Remember >2 hours holding positioning back to EGBB as SLF from KORD. P1 showed his face in the cabin following our WX divert to EGLL - I'm glad I wasn't that guy and for sure I wouldn't be so brave!

[miianwilson]

hot damn. that was cool.

[lanaty27]

Awesome video!!!What is "ILS"?

[FlyBHX]

Thanks. ILS stands for instrument landing system

[guebogirl]

nice! where was the camera set? hope you were monitoring properly!!

[grantrmca]

Nothing better than an ILS category III landing at night.

[mrinferno6969]

lol it was a cat II and it said that in the title

[FlyBHX]

CAT II only I'm afraid. This aircraft isn't cleared for CAT III

[Baptist2k]

Great video!

[sargeanb]

I thought those callouts sounded familiar...CHQ FO here...Nice approach:)

[FlyBHX]

Thanks

[wyunaboy]

i would prob scream "oh my lord, where the fuck am i??..mayday!!mayday!!i cannot see shit,,...mama..." if i have to land on those condition.

[FlyBHX]

That's why we have the wonders of modern technology to tell us where we are.

[dalb78]

really great vid!

[malametal]

awesome video man !

[PlanesForLife]

Embraer' arem fav plane,love them

[captainjn]

Wooo great video!!

[filiph10]

GREAT!!

[intheair10]

Next time try hand flying it down to mins instead of disconnecting the AP at the last moment.

[FlyBHX]

Unfortunately the rules on flying a Cat II approach on that aircraft don't allow a manually flown approach. The autopilot is disconnected if a decision to land it made and then it must be disconnected by 80feet. Otherwise a go-round must be flown.

If you want to see a manually flown apporach have a look at my appraoch into Edinburgh.

[civagiarn]

I was wondering as a erj145 pilot, how often do you use reverse thrust on landing?

[FlyBHX]

Well I'm now flying 737s but the 145's I flew didn't have reverse thrust. It was an option my previous employer chose not to have fitted.

[atenco01]

This is what you call "Flying with Guevos"  Awesome...

[MarkKamyk]

Flying must be really boring interupted by extream terror! But I must say if I flew all my landings would be just like that cause my eye would be sealed shut till touch down! Cool to the inside angle! Thank you.

[GCREW06]

SUPERB! Now a landing like that makes be proud to be BA Connect cabin crew!

[FlyBHX]

I've escaped to pastures new now!

[bluefunkybassman]

EXCELLENT - enjoyed that very much.

[ashleyfish]

i loved that u a bhx fan i live next to the airport!

[Jezzbaldwin]

Should be mandatory viewing for all passengers subjected to delays when RVR is below minimums. Great video!

[jcsoter]

WOW! The ILS gods were smiling this day.

[FlyBHX]

Glad you enjoyed

[gareth13668]

If people new what pilots couldn't see, nobody would fly! Great vid!