I can't believe you all are wasting your time on this... This is nothing but another ploy of people with media outlets to exploit their positions to further divide our country with non-intellectual bulls***. when what the country truly needs is to come together in these tough times
Vivian Schiller has got to be an absolute idiot. First she wrongfully terminates William's position at NPR. Then she arrogantly says he needs a psychiatrist. Vivian needs to have her stupid ass fired from NPR. Clearly she cannot handle authority without abusing it.
From an editorial standpoint, National Public Radio is a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Democratic Party. The shameful Juan Williams imbroglio points out what has been painfully obvious for decades: taxpayer funding for NPR should cease immediately. Let the Democrats, George Soros and media lefties like Michael Moore and Robert Redford float NPR.
@buttflosshaha456 It was an irrational thing to say. There are millions of Muslims who fly on airplanes every year, and yet only a couple dozen committed an act of terrorism. Why would such an extremely low risk of terrorism by a Muslim make him nervous?
@CambridgeHeights It wasn't irrational, he was just being honest. It would make him nervous because he hasn't forgotten about 9/11. You can't forget about it either. Radical Islam was responsible for the disaster, there is no denying that
@buttflosshaha456 I'm not questioning his honesty. I also realize that 911 was perpetrated in the name of Islam. You have to realize though that the danger posed by flying with a Muslim is infinitesimally small. Therefore, it is irrational to be fearful when flying with a Muslim.
@CambridgeHeights I'll have you know that Islam teachings obligate its believers to kill the enemy. And to them, Christians are enemies. The Muslims in the Mid East didn't even condemn the 9/11 attackers. When the Muslims invaded Spain, they, the Christians, and the Jews were living in peace only because the Muslims had conquered them. And that is what the Muslims in the Mid East want to do to America. My point being, no it was not irrational of Juan to say that.
@buttflosshaha456 The old testament obligates the killing of disobedient children and people who work on the sabbath? Does that mean Christians and Jews do this? NO! Same for Muslims. Most Muslims do not commit acts of terrorism. You can't even argue with that. Just look at the statistics for the number of Muslims who fly and the number who commit acts of terrorism while flying.
@CambridgeHeights The Old Testament is irrelevant to Islam teachings. You have NO idea what's going on in the Mid East do you. The people we consider Radicals are considered Moderates over there. And yes, there are more Muslims in the Mid East than in America, so most Muslims may not be terrorists, but most are radicals. We gotta watch out for them too.
@buttflosshaha456 I brought up the old testament to show that every holy book has crazy verses, not just the Koran. You can call them radical or whatever you want. The fact is that the percentage of Muslim airline passengers who commit acts of terrorism is extremely small.
@CambridgeHeights Conditioned response. To say that expressing his feelings was irrational is tantamount to expecting him to deny his emotions regarding Islam. Williams should face his fears and deal with them, of course, but keep in mind that all he did was state his emotions regarding the issue.
@CambridgeHeights The issue is that he was fired for expressing an opinion not shared by NPR's regime; Williams's position was terminated based on that. The problem is that he never shared an opinion; as such, NPR is facing losing a wrongful termination suit as a result of Vivian Schiller's unwillingness to differentiate between emotion and opinion. But all of this is ostensible. The real motive behind his firing is Schiller's intolerence of Fox News. (Besides, Soros is watching -she had to fire
@cincyblows Yes it was stupid to fire Juan Williams for such a relatively harmless comment. I addressed that in another comment. Here I was talking specifically about the irrationality of being afraid of flying with Muslims.
@CambridgeHeights That's an unfair argument to begin with. Emotions aren't irrational unless they control one's behavior. Williams flew in spite of his fear of Muslims dressed in traditional clothing. Therefore, his fear didn't control him. He was simply expressing an emotion.
@cincyblows According to the American Psychiatric Association, a phobia is "an irrational and excessive fear of an object or situation." So fear can be irrational.
Ask yourself how an emotion can be either rational or irrational. I'm well aware of the APA and the DSM IV TR, etc. APA members will tell you that affect is only irrational if it becomes overcontrolling. Fear can only be irrational if it controls a person or somehow causes more stress/anxiety than a person is willing to endure. Williams is clearly willing to deal with his.
@cincyblows It's very simple. Fear is irrational if the object/situation that you are scared of poses no real danger to you. If I was afraid of people with the middle name "Robert", that would be an irrational fear even if that fear didn't change my behavior. Your argument is not only wrong, its extremely trivial.
@CambridgeHeights Take that a step further: you failed to mention that fear is irrational only if it CONTROLS the person experiencing it. That isn't too difficult a concept. Williams associated the events of 11 Sept. with Islam. When he boarded a plane and observed someone wearing Muslim garb, the association had not only been made, it had festered for nine years. Williams expressed his feelings and was fired for doing so, because Schiller cannot differentiate between opinion and emotion.
@CambridgeHeights Fear doesn't have to control the person. True. It certainly hasn't controlled Williams, who continues to fight his fear by flying. Williams simply stated that he has a fear of people dressed in traditional Muslim clothing while he's on a plane with them. He was wrongly fired for expressing that emotion. Schiller has stated that Williams was expressing an opinion rather than an emotion. I suspect she fired him mainly for expressing it on Fox.
@cincyblows Forgot to mention something here: the fact that Williams kept flying after Sept 11 2001 indicates that his fear wasn't "irrational" enough to control him. Ahem.
@CambridgeHeights There is not ONE THING irrational about fearing to fly with Muslims. 19 of them brought down 4 COMMERCIAL aircraft, two skyscrapers, part of the Pentagon, and killed 3,000 of my countrymen, and CONTINUE to this day perpetrating acts of terrorism in my country, and AROUND THE WORLD! I don't trust these Sharia bastards as far as I can THROW them!! That's right, I said it.
@ConanTheRepublican Well you just revealed yourself to be an idiot. 19 Muslims crashed into buildings and how many didn't? Millions. Flying with Muslims is statistically very safe.
Today on NPR's web site: Alicia Shepard, "Williams did challenge O'Reilly's apparent contention that every Muslim on the planet is an extremist bent on attacking America". Will she be fired for lying about O'Reilly? NO, SILLY! That is what NPR does for a living.
Juan Williams was only expressing what millions of Americans feel. What he said was simply a feeling, not an opinion. After the midterm elections, Washington will be different and NPR's days of taking taxpayer money will end. Vivian Schiller is the biggest joke of a CEO for NPR. Whether she wants to hear it or not, radical Muslims attacked the United States on 9/11.
@cincyblows You must not watch his show. I suppose you've not seen how he cuts off microphones because he doesn't want to hear someone's opinion... I'm not going to spell it out for you.
OMG what a joke! They're all like bunch of kids in a neighborhood. Juan: "Those guys don't wanna hang out with me anymore". Bill: "Oh, they're bunch of losers. You can do better than that!", Juan: "Thanks for being my friend Bill. You're a stand up guy!" Bill: "No problem man. I got your back. Hey, let me ask you a question, have you ever smoked crack?" LOL
By legislative means only (unless you overthrow the government using your "Second Amendment Remedies") . Your chance of that happening in Congress and the President signing such legislation is nil, at least for the next 2 years.
It's so funny hearing right-wing people say that NPR "lies" while swooning over O'Reilly and FOX,completely biased propaganda arms of the Republican Party.
@MrTruthpatrol It's even funnier when the left wing, knowing they're going to lose seats in the election, begin getting shrill. Funnier than that, of course, is watching those on the left project their weakness onto the right.
@cincyblows Ah, c'mon. That troubling thing called "hypocrisy" rears it's ugly head at every turn. I know that it is fun for you to spout off incessantly, but solutions to the problems at hand are not going to come from "shrill" people like you.
@MrTruthpatrol Oh, how you project. (I'll let you look that psychiatric term up. Hint: Vivian Schiller does it all the time.) It's always fun to laugh at stupid liberals, if you'll pardon the redundancy.
wooowww. millions of americans feel the same way? aren't there millions of muslims in this country? that sounds like bullsh*t to me.
nezerac 1 year ago
Ever heard "divided we fall, united we stand"
samtek55 1 year ago
I can't believe you all are wasting your time on this... This is nothing but another ploy of people with media outlets to exploit their positions to further divide our country with non-intellectual bulls***. when what the country truly needs is to come together in these tough times
samtek55 1 year ago
@hilmz86 You imbecile...you can't even spell his NAME right.
ConanTheRepublican 1 year ago
@hilmz86 God almighty... did you actually type: "biggets"??? You public-schooled MORON.
ConanTheRepublican 1 year ago
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ConanTheRepublican 1 year ago
Fuck O'reilly and Juan , fuck you both .
TheSAJ11 1 year ago
@TheSAJ11 Fuck you, you Commie thug.
ConanTheRepublican 1 year ago
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@ConanTheRepublican No fuck you ignorant white trash cum guzzler asshole .
TheSAJ11 1 year ago
juan williams an idiot whos also a racist just like his boyfriend bull o'reilly
italia45godfather 1 year ago
Since Schiller is incapable of distinguishing between affect and opinion, perhaps she shoud see a psychiatrist. I suggest quetiapine fumarate.
cincyblows 1 year ago
These guys are comics. Watch 6:40 to 7:05...A blatant display of theatrics! Funny though.
tobim2004 1 year ago
im not a liberal or republican but , one thing is for sure , once the GOP gets the house and senate , NPR 's days are numbered.
ramboram03 1 year ago
@ramboram03 They won't necessarily be gone, they just won't be funded by the govt anymore.
liljgliss 1 year ago
@liljgliss Good point.
cincyblows 1 year ago
Vivian Schiller has got to be an absolute idiot. First she wrongfully terminates William's position at NPR. Then she arrogantly says he needs a psychiatrist. Vivian needs to have her stupid ass fired from NPR. Clearly she cannot handle authority without abusing it.
cincyblows 1 year ago
@cincyblows
You need to get off of your computer some time, get outside and enjoy the fresh air. That might be good for you.
MrTruthpatrol 1 year ago
@MrTruthpatrol Watch those claws, Tabby.
cincyblows 1 year ago
@MaliciousDK shut up, nobody wants to see ridicuolus shit like that
buttflosshaha456 1 year ago
Juan for president!
hoosiernome 1 year ago
@hoosiernome uuuuh I don't think he wants to be president...
buttflosshaha456 1 year ago
bill o'reilly said juan dont say anything els i got you
hotblk100 1 year ago
From an editorial standpoint, National Public Radio is a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Democratic Party. The shameful Juan Williams imbroglio points out what has been painfully obvious for decades: taxpayer funding for NPR should cease immediately. Let the Democrats, George Soros and media lefties like Michael Moore and Robert Redford float NPR.
hookalakah 1 year ago
The American people have the right TO fund NPR if they so choose. Simple goes both ways!
MrTruthpatrol 1 year ago
@MrTruthpatrol No they don't, but they SHOULD
buttflosshaha456 1 year ago
Screw you, George Soros. We're watching...
cincyblows 1 year ago
This incident made me lose a lot of respect for Juan Williams AND NPR.
CambridgeHeights 1 year ago
@CambridgeHeights Why did it make you lose respect for Juan Williams?
buttflosshaha456 1 year ago
@buttflosshaha456 It was an irrational thing to say. There are millions of Muslims who fly on airplanes every year, and yet only a couple dozen committed an act of terrorism. Why would such an extremely low risk of terrorism by a Muslim make him nervous?
CambridgeHeights 1 year ago
@CambridgeHeights It wasn't irrational, he was just being honest. It would make him nervous because he hasn't forgotten about 9/11. You can't forget about it either. Radical Islam was responsible for the disaster, there is no denying that
buttflosshaha456 1 year ago
@buttflosshaha456 I'm not questioning his honesty. I also realize that 911 was perpetrated in the name of Islam. You have to realize though that the danger posed by flying with a Muslim is infinitesimally small. Therefore, it is irrational to be fearful when flying with a Muslim.
CambridgeHeights 1 year ago
@CambridgeHeights I'll have you know that Islam teachings obligate its believers to kill the enemy. And to them, Christians are enemies. The Muslims in the Mid East didn't even condemn the 9/11 attackers. When the Muslims invaded Spain, they, the Christians, and the Jews were living in peace only because the Muslims had conquered them. And that is what the Muslims in the Mid East want to do to America. My point being, no it was not irrational of Juan to say that.
buttflosshaha456 1 year ago
@buttflosshaha456 The old testament obligates the killing of disobedient children and people who work on the sabbath? Does that mean Christians and Jews do this? NO! Same for Muslims. Most Muslims do not commit acts of terrorism. You can't even argue with that. Just look at the statistics for the number of Muslims who fly and the number who commit acts of terrorism while flying.
CambridgeHeights 1 year ago
@CambridgeHeights The Old Testament is irrelevant to Islam teachings. You have NO idea what's going on in the Mid East do you. The people we consider Radicals are considered Moderates over there. And yes, there are more Muslims in the Mid East than in America, so most Muslims may not be terrorists, but most are radicals. We gotta watch out for them too.
buttflosshaha456 1 year ago
@buttflosshaha456 I brought up the old testament to show that every holy book has crazy verses, not just the Koran. You can call them radical or whatever you want. The fact is that the percentage of Muslim airline passengers who commit acts of terrorism is extremely small.
CambridgeHeights 1 year ago
@CambridgeHeights Conditioned response. To say that expressing his feelings was irrational is tantamount to expecting him to deny his emotions regarding Islam. Williams should face his fears and deal with them, of course, but keep in mind that all he did was state his emotions regarding the issue.
cincyblows 1 year ago
@cincyblows I'm not questioning his honesty, I believe he really feels this way.
If I said I was afraid of pickles, that may be an honest expression of my feelings, but it is still irrational because pickles are not dangerous.
CambridgeHeights 1 year ago
@CambridgeHeights The issue is that he was fired for expressing an opinion not shared by NPR's regime; Williams's position was terminated based on that. The problem is that he never shared an opinion; as such, NPR is facing losing a wrongful termination suit as a result of Vivian Schiller's unwillingness to differentiate between emotion and opinion. But all of this is ostensible. The real motive behind his firing is Schiller's intolerence of Fox News. (Besides, Soros is watching -she had to fire
cincyblows 1 year ago
@cincyblows And none of that has anything to do with my comment that his statement was irrational, but hey that's ok.
CambridgeHeights 1 year ago
@CambridgeHeights Of course it does. And to be fair to the topic, you must include Schiller's firing as even more irrational.
cincyblows 1 year ago
@cincyblows Yes it was stupid to fire Juan Williams for such a relatively harmless comment. I addressed that in another comment. Here I was talking specifically about the irrationality of being afraid of flying with Muslims.
CambridgeHeights 1 year ago
@CambridgeHeights That's an unfair argument to begin with. Emotions aren't irrational unless they control one's behavior. Williams flew in spite of his fear of Muslims dressed in traditional clothing. Therefore, his fear didn't control him. He was simply expressing an emotion.
cincyblows 1 year ago
@cincyblows According to the American Psychiatric Association, a phobia is "an irrational and excessive fear of an object or situation." So fear can be irrational.
CambridgeHeights 1 year ago
@CambridgeHeights
Ask yourself how an emotion can be either rational or irrational. I'm well aware of the APA and the DSM IV TR, etc. APA members will tell you that affect is only irrational if it becomes overcontrolling. Fear can only be irrational if it controls a person or somehow causes more stress/anxiety than a person is willing to endure. Williams is clearly willing to deal with his.
cincyblows 1 year ago
@cincyblows It's very simple. Fear is irrational if the object/situation that you are scared of poses no real danger to you. If I was afraid of people with the middle name "Robert", that would be an irrational fear even if that fear didn't change my behavior. Your argument is not only wrong, its extremely trivial.
CambridgeHeights 1 year ago
@CambridgeHeights Take that a step further: you failed to mention that fear is irrational only if it CONTROLS the person experiencing it. That isn't too difficult a concept. Williams associated the events of 11 Sept. with Islam. When he boarded a plane and observed someone wearing Muslim garb, the association had not only been made, it had festered for nine years. Williams expressed his feelings and was fired for doing so, because Schiller cannot differentiate between opinion and emotion.
cincyblows 1 year ago
@cincyblows Fear is an emotion, not an action or behavior. It doesn't have to CONTROL the person.
CambridgeHeights 1 year ago
@CambridgeHeights Fear doesn't have to control the person. True. It certainly hasn't controlled Williams, who continues to fight his fear by flying. Williams simply stated that he has a fear of people dressed in traditional Muslim clothing while he's on a plane with them. He was wrongly fired for expressing that emotion. Schiller has stated that Williams was expressing an opinion rather than an emotion. I suspect she fired him mainly for expressing it on Fox.
cincyblows 1 year ago
@cincyblows Forgot to mention something here: the fact that Williams kept flying after Sept 11 2001 indicates that his fear wasn't "irrational" enough to control him. Ahem.
cincyblows 1 year ago
@CambridgeHeights There is not ONE THING irrational about fearing to fly with Muslims. 19 of them brought down 4 COMMERCIAL aircraft, two skyscrapers, part of the Pentagon, and killed 3,000 of my countrymen, and CONTINUE to this day perpetrating acts of terrorism in my country, and AROUND THE WORLD! I don't trust these Sharia bastards as far as I can THROW them!! That's right, I said it.
ConanTheRepublican 1 year ago
@ConanTheRepublican Well you just revealed yourself to be an idiot. 19 Muslims crashed into buildings and how many didn't? Millions. Flying with Muslims is statistically very safe.
CambridgeHeights 1 year ago
Today on NPR's web site: Alicia Shepard, "Williams did challenge O'Reilly's apparent contention that every Muslim on the planet is an extremist bent on attacking America". Will she be fired for lying about O'Reilly? NO, SILLY! That is what NPR does for a living.
BriansVideoHobby 1 year ago
While I believe most Muslims are peaceful, there are radical Muslims that must be stopped.
Spazz800 1 year ago
Juan Williams was only expressing what millions of Americans feel. What he said was simply a feeling, not an opinion. After the midterm elections, Washington will be different and NPR's days of taking taxpayer money will end. Vivian Schiller is the biggest joke of a CEO for NPR. Whether she wants to hear it or not, radical Muslims attacked the United States on 9/11.
Spazz800 1 year ago
Money talks...
JA2NJ 1 year ago
Since when has Bill O'Reilly approved of people stating "their opinion"?
MrJBondJr 1 year ago
@MrJBondJr When has he not?
cincyblows 1 year ago
@cincyblows You must not watch his show. I suppose you've not seen how he cuts off microphones because he doesn't want to hear someone's opinion... I'm not going to spell it out for you.
MrJBondJr 1 year ago
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cincyblows 1 year ago
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@MrJBondJr Maybe Keith Olbermann can spell it out for you, as he does his 12 regular viewers.
cincyblows 1 year ago
@MrJBondJr. May I ask what is your first name sir?
StingrayFilms 1 year ago
bill is right obviously.
MARTINSTERN 1 year ago
How dumb is this guy...?
Just asking...
XaleTorren 1 year ago
OMG what a joke! They're all like bunch of kids in a neighborhood. Juan: "Those guys don't wanna hang out with me anymore". Bill: "Oh, they're bunch of losers. You can do better than that!", Juan: "Thanks for being my friend Bill. You're a stand up guy!" Bill: "No problem man. I got your back. Hey, let me ask you a question, have you ever smoked crack?" LOL
oneblach 1 year ago
lol bill is awesome
mrlrdthe1andonly 1 year ago
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ikfikf 1 year ago
Juan Williams has the right to speak his mind, and NPR has the right to fire him. Simple as that.
MrTruthpatrol 1 year ago
@MrTruthpatrol and we have the right to de-fund them.
BriansVideoHobby 1 year ago
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@MrTruthpatrol ...and we have a right to demand that NPR is defunded. Period.
bella50008 1 year ago 2
@bella50008
By legislative means only (unless you overthrow the government using your "Second Amendment Remedies") . Your chance of that happening in Congress and the President signing such legislation is nil, at least for the next 2 years.
MrTruthpatrol 1 year ago
@MrTruthpatrol The Americasn people have the right not to fund NPR. Simple as that.
cincyblows 1 year ago
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@cincyblows The American people have the right TO fund NPR if they so choose. Simple goes both ways!
MrTruthpatrol 1 year ago
It's so funny hearing right-wing people say that NPR "lies" while swooning over O'Reilly and FOX,completely biased propaganda arms of the Republican Party.
MrTruthpatrol 1 year ago
@MrTruthpatrol It's even funnier when the left wing, knowing they're going to lose seats in the election, begin getting shrill. Funnier than that, of course, is watching those on the left project their weakness onto the right.
cincyblows 1 year ago
@cincyblows Ah, c'mon. That troubling thing called "hypocrisy" rears it's ugly head at every turn. I know that it is fun for you to spout off incessantly, but solutions to the problems at hand are not going to come from "shrill" people like you.
MrTruthpatrol 1 year ago
@MrTruthpatrol Oh, how you project. (I'll let you look that psychiatric term up. Hint: Vivian Schiller does it all the time.) It's always fun to laugh at stupid liberals, if you'll pardon the redundancy.
cincyblows 1 year ago
@MrTruthpatrol And the taxpayers have the right to petition their lawmakers to defund that totalitarian leftist regime known as NPR.
cincyblows 1 year ago