The other thing we need it to be is FREE!!! This techknowllagy is not new and it not complicated.. It can be cleated in any small work shop by pretty much anyone. Its a matter of learning and there is plentty of info on line to make these things without being sold on the idea of captalistic envaulment! Lear and do or ask your freinds to help and make it a comunity project.. FREE YOUR SELF!!!!
To me a super efficient electric heater would be more worth the research. Instead of converting the electricity to hydrogen and then to heat, why don't you skip the hydrogen step and go straight from electricity to heat.
i build one... i used it for my family to cook, me i used a BIG plastic drum lots of stainless steel plate and at least five BIG 12v batteries and solar panel, total cost is $2,300 it's a little bit much, but it's wort it, you got free fire forever...
why the heck should i use electricity (and expensive complicated hardware) to split water molecules and then burn that to produce heat, when i can simply use the electric heater directly???
And all the "free energy" idiots here. No. This isn't producing any energy. Any electricity you could obtain from it, even if you somehow managed to get 100% efficiency from the hydrogen gas, would of course be less than what you could get from the batter itself. This is a water treatment machine. Did you guys even watch the video?
Can the Xogen System be used in pure Hydrogen gas vehicles? If we can create Hydrogen Gas instantaneously on-board, can the water from burning Hydrogen to run our vehicles go to the Xogen System for re-creation of Hydrogen Gas. If the cylinders fail, what does it say about the Hydrogen gas to water to Hydrogen gas process?
There's only one question needed here, how much does it get out compared to the power needed to run it? Eventually water power won't require more than an initial kickstart, running continuous input power will only be viable if a reasonable overall profit is made on the output which they haven't told us. These really need to be self-running.
I would very much like to purchase this Xogen Inc. Hydrogen/Oxygen generator to fuel my 2000 Honda Insight. I'll be calling your company soon. I hope these are actually available. This is truly great :-)
So you use electricity to break up water into two combustible gases and react those two gases to create energy and water? Its like an extra middle man, it cannot make the system more efficient. Energy + Water = Water + Energy, with just a little lost along the way I'm sure. Using wind and air would make it clean but why even use the middle man when you have clean energy + water already?
less the fucking talk ,where the hell is it, this should be in every home car and whatever else ,,ffs what are you dickheads doing , going to wars and murdering ppls
for dirty oil, see if ppls dont kick doors down to get this ,,, i hope you lot rot in hell
MAN! I'm getting kinda sick of companies hocking their shit on YouTube! It's called YOU TUBE and it's supposed to be for the people, NOT for companies to hock their shit. You want to make an advert? Fine! Go show it on T.V. then! Not here!
So where did they get the Electricity to charge up their "Proprietary Digital Electronic Signal"? Probably from a coal plant. By the way, what are those car batteries doing over there...? Ah, never mind.
I always wonder why those who make these discoveries say that their tech is Proprietary ~ shouldn't the information and how to make this kind of tech, be free, if they are truly interested in environmental impacts?
Free energy can change the world!But the coverup is very strong,Go to LT-MAGNET-MOTORdotCOM and get the blueprints for a genuine magnet motor ,The revolution begins!
this video dont contain anything new at all, this "technology" has existed since the mid 1800's, many car manefacturers today actually has working prototypes of cars running on these systems...
only thing special about this video is the over-usage of big words to make the viewer think this is something new and revolutionary...
This is Fast Freddy's System. Tune the pipes to exact audio frequencies outside the water..then encase the base of each plate or cell very firmly in base. All plates must match audio freq. I may be wrong but @ 6:44 this might be a hydrophone.
@jburnum The Bob Boyce D9 PDF file is most simialar to the Xogen system, although the difference is that in the Xogen system, the 6 inch toroid is submerged underneath the plates. The flux lines coming off the toroid cause a ressonance effect that helps dissacociate the water. Stephen Chambers is the inventor. He is also the Bro-in law of Stan Meyer!
HOW DOES XOGEN PRODUCE HYDROXY WITHOUT CHEMICAL ADDITIVES such as potassium hydroxide, baking soda, or sodium hydroxide. OMG THIS WOULD be so awsome to know how they acheived this!!!!???!! AHHHHHH!!!
@tutor1006 dude this so called " break through" was supposed to happen 30-40 year ago when a guy called Stan Meyer invented a car that can get from LA to NYC using 22 gallons of water
@Errorbgkn1 . This is my point dude error! If this is true...i am sure it is....but could be an extremely expensive option else can you imagine the media attention it can get. You think people are going to sit quiet!! Else this nation is nothing but a self absorbed bunch of idiots.
There is nothing new here I can produce a larger flame at home for much less money and more efiecently to it seems. Hho is extremly unstable it's "perfect mix" means it can explode wlvery easily and flash back hydro carbons and pure hydrogen don't do that. Hydrides are the future not this
@kanoabiondolillo any new invention that hurts any economy (power/oil/gas) will not be in use until some one finds a way to make it profitable. HHO is in the industry now you just have to look in the right places to find it. Google or youtube h20 2000.
@kanoabiondolillo you can do your own HHO projects at home. You don't have to wait for major companies. The best budget systems that i know that u can buy is called HHO Dry Cell and can be bought on eBay.
can you say stole stan meyers idea? this was invented in 1985, whoever is in charge of comercializing these products does not deserve credit for the inventions
Pressurized Water fuel cell ,super conductive solution with high intencity Static charge aplyed thrue use of krypton Gas contained under pressure in ceramic tubes seperated by pollerity, Powerd by Vander graff generator, sending statick charge thrue poller isolation diodes,then fed in phrequancy isolated discharge to a tesla coil,then to the krypton filled tubes, as krypton gas is the only non oxidizing knoble gas. And electicly conductive under pressure. A scruber to remove krypton needed.
I invented a breakthrough energy source which violates the law of conservation of energy. I have a PROOF that there are electrodynamic phenomena which violate the law of energy conservation. I am looking for $30 000 for a prototype and $3M for patents. Making a 6 kW generator will cost $1200 in mass production, value of the energy produced per year $5400.
Yeah, I have uncovered all 3 three different free energy machines, you can find my blog at H2onE2 com, it is called "Future energy death to Exxon". They make this water thing look stupid, low powered.
Very cool. All the best to Xogen in bringing this important technology to market. We could have something like this in the U.S.; all we need to do is move the fossil-fuel (and 'clean , safe, nuclear') energy monopolies and pig-headed mainstream academia the hell out the way! (That should be easy, right!)
It's all about the high voltage pulse, and magnetically stretching the water molecule apart by knocking the covalent bonds of the shared electrons of water and hydrogen. Coupled with the electron extraction circuit, which pulls off the free hydrated electrons and produces a currenet, which is fed back to a battery, which can be running the water fuel cell to begin with (self running, overunity scenario). Excess energy is from the quantum vacuum (AKA the zero-point energy field/ ether)
@mattimber Hydrated electron? Magnetically stretching? Zero-point energy!?! ... no .. The high voltage pulse dissociates O and H2, there is work being done by the battery to do this. The work done by that battery puts energy into the system. This energy is released when the gas is burned turning back into H2O. If this was over unity no battery would be required (a simple capacitor charged ONCE would work). This method is less efficient then using the battery alone.
I have access to such technology and can verify for myself that zero point energy is entrained in such devices, whether they use a PWM or brute force DC. My HHO heater see hhohhu (dot) com puts out 1000 watts of heat or more witrh only 300 watts of DC power input. So, once you can say for sure 1st hand, I'd not embarrass myself by your little denial campain against this video.
@mattimber I don't think he is criticising this video. It is your erroneous explanation of the science behind it that is being commented upon.
From what I see the technology is good enough to sell itself without making up nonsense.
Your claim of 300W in to give 1000W is contrary to the laws of conservation of energy and mass. Also 'Hydrated Electrons'? Give me a break. You cannot hydrate an electron, as it is a fundamental particle of the universe.
@paulrach2010 tell me i dont know all this high tech ,,is this machine real ?and how long people have known about this,,,cause there is alot of people that need to be in jail or shot,,for crimes of war,,,like most of American
presidents,, and all those yankie army bhoys and girls bunch of criminals the lot of them,
@paulrach2010 OK. Firstly, your right about the "hydrated electron". Any highschool chemistry student can tell you that. But as to the conservation of energy law, you must remember that it applies to an ENCLOSED SYSTEM which this is not! Nobody seems to recognise this! I have been working on this project myself . There are many factors to consider (enthorpy, atmosphere around flame, to many to go through in this little text box), but my point is, this works!
@paulrach2010 they also said the earth was flat and we could not bend light and bla bla bla but don't worry about it because dr kaku wants to play the earth quakes and tornados its called weather control and anybody who is disagrees with it is labeled a terrorist...
@mattimber I don't think he is criticising this video. It is your erroneous explanation of the science behind it that is being commented upon.
From what I see the technology is good enough to sell itself without making up nonsense. Your claim of 300W in to give 1000W is contrary to the laws of conservation of energy and mass. Also 'Hydrated Electrons'? Give me a break. You cannot hydrate an electron, as it is a fundamental particle of the universe.
@mattimber - Ether? What do you mean? Because if you mean the medium through which lightwaves propagate, the experiment of Michelson-Morley prooved that ether doens't exist. Please explain. Thank you.
@treyflip3losthispass Stanley Myers the discoverer called the process "Water Fracturing" which is the Direct Transmutation of water into hydrogen and oxygen gas.
Cool! Baking soda can create chlorine gas as a byproduct. A PWM will allow you to create even more gas with NO catalyst, but you also need to insulate the electrodes with Delrin and let the voltage take over while restricting current flow to minimum. Also, cloose spacing (1-3 mm) is crucial, and sand the 316L stainless steel plates. Spiral designs are good too. Check out my Moray King, David Wenbert & Bob Boyce videos for more info (e.g. frequecies like 42.8 KHZ).
@mattimber thanks for the tips i was wondering why my cells allways smell like chlorine i allways thought it was something in the water in the states makes sense though...
have u checked out zerofossilfuel ? hes got alot of info thats rather relevant
ive tried a few configs myself ive posted a few of them on the tube here but your cell is marvelous
when i get back to the states and find a place to live im gonna try out your suggestions thnx alot and keep up the good work
Yes, he's one of my friends I think, or at least I subscribe to his channel. I've moved to Ohio recently adn have been busy getting settled in and not much time for HHO stuff, besides my new business, which involves selling & developing HHO heating and water treatment processes.
@mattimber ive had the same thoughts like i want to make a sub that runs off water and creates its own oxygen though that would be a lil hard givin the ratio of oxygen production from a hho cell
ive had my theories of water purification through hho production but alas the ppl ive presented this to say im crazy and its not a viable purification process (though i do know its how they purify sea water)
also i want to try and develope ionization towers to create water but thats for the future
It's all about the voltage being used to produce work, and to restrict the current flow as much as possible. You can get dissassociation using brute force DC, but nothing compared to high voltage pusled at resonance frequencies (e.g. 48.2 KHZ). Check out my videos by Moray King, and the Bob Boyce videos. See also the Stan Meyer 1989 lecture he made in France on YouTube. Meyer's bro. in-law Stephen Chambers started up Xogen.
Like the goverment are on the gas side of things? You haven't heard of "the death of the electric car?" Same goes here. You need an army, allot of PR guys and lobbyists to make this fly.
Even if the peoples mind is changed.. the oils buisness will try their best to cut you of the pipeline.
I love how the narrator takes an already existing science and puts a pretty bow tie on it. It's an electrolysis system... Real Complex (sarcastic). Basically Xogen is a company that grew out of a persons garage who put together an electrolysis machine and made a fancy schmancy video to entice venture capitalist. How about a real break through please!!!!! not just recycled trash that everyone and their grandma's can make with a well equipped garage.
This is anything but conventional electrolysis, which separates hydrogen & oxygen to SEPARATE electrodes (anode & cathode). Xogens process is an improved version of Stan Meyers Water Fuel Cell, & uses a DC pulse width modulator around 250 MHZ applied to 316L stainless steel plates, using NO catalysts. The gasses are combined into a stoiciometric mixture of charged gas clusters of diatomic & monatomic oxygen & hydrogen & steam. Stephen Chambers was Stan Meyer's bro in-law, BTW & patented it.
Since this is not a closed look energy system, and the excess energy is being entrained from the quantum vacuum flux field (Dark Energy), the laws of conservation don't apply at this level. The water doesn't heat up because of this, but the energy is tapped from Dark Energy. See the Tom Valone interviews where he explains this. Dark Energy is the explanaiton for most over-unity energy devices.
In a sense, yes, I am saying this. The WFC is not producing KW, but it can with the addition of an electron extraction. The gas energy from combustion or heat energy can be over-unity in many cases. You might want to check out my Moray King interviews, and the Moray King video on Water Power presentation. It explains it a lot better than I can (over-unity and origins). The reason for suppression, I can send you a link if interested.
I meant to say "closed loop" (not closed look) in the previous response and I meant to say Electron Extraction Circuit (EEC) in the second response. The David Wenbert interview also has some valuable information on the Water Fuel Cell. The Moray King Presentation video I have is much more specific technically.
Also, Patrick Kelly has written a huge amount of data on these devices.
There are government agencies currently working on this: namely NASA's GRC and their breakthrough propulsion project is working on using zero point energy/quantum vacuum. At best, what matt is suggesting is a theory - one that could have far dire consequences. What he is implying is that we are extracting the energy from a system where no energy exists. If this seems somewhat contradictory - read about the Casimir effect.
I think the patent is on the physicality of the plate design and arrangment, and the Pulse Width Modulator and supporting circuitry. Xogen's system uses a 10-250KHZ frequency I think. check out my video presentation from Moray King. He gets into it there: Up to 40 stainless steel electrodes;1 mm spacing, no electrolyte
10 250 KHz square wave; 90% duty cycle;12 V, 0.3 amps (3.6 watts);Produces 1 psi of gas per minute; Pulse coil controls ortho vs. para hydrogen
hello you think its possible to use the resonance frequency of a piece of metal (left right movement) to replace the pistons in a combustion engine?in theory you would have endless power,only useing power to supply the sound,would be very clean energy and not meany moving parts to mantain,if anybody takes this idea to next stage remmber me when your trillianaire :>
This might be possible, but the IC engine (esp. ones with crankshafts) are pretty inefficient. You'd do better with a rotary engine like a Quasiturbine, or a MYT engine from Angel Labs. You can retrofit any IC engine to run off of HHO gas entirely. Google: Paul Zigouras Panacea. He made such a system, similar to Stan Meyers. But the oil mob bought him out and are sitting on the technology. You need ~10-20 liters/sec to run an IC engine. Zigouras' & Meyer's units were able to do this.
the reason why i am asking about those devices is because im going to use them form my thesis presentation, which is also a hydrogen generator.... for presentation purpose only... kindly pls help me.... again.
can i asked u what are the three devices did you use, after the "oxy - hydrogen" passes to the gauge?? the one that looks like a chrome container, and the other to devices... can u pls. kindly tell me... or where can i buy those devices...
Not all HHO generators (electrolyzers) have the same temperature. Some more advanced versions with Pulse Width Modulation don't heat up at all. I call these "Water Fuel Cells", and I include Xogen's device in this category. WFCs tap into zero-point (dark) energy most likely via the Casimir Effect. This energy is entrained in the WFC and enhances the effect & H20 disassociation.
Moray King says that any wattage below 2.4 watt hours/liter of hydrogen is over-unity.
What a clever thing to compare volumes... ROTFLMAO... And what fancy numbers you're displaying here... LOL.... It's mass you're burning, my simian friend...
1 kg of gasoline=42.5 MJ/kg (LHV)
1 kg of Hydrogen=120.1 MJ/kg (LHV)
(LHV= low heating value)
If you consider the Higher Heating Values the difference is even bigger...
Weight is not important, volume is important. So with one gallon of gasoline equaling 5,796.6 gallons of HHO how will you haul that much HHO around with you?
ES2008... why should I need to carry around all that in gas form when we have the stable H2O ? This is the real catch in my oppinion... HHO on demand ! You may also consider the fact that any kind of technique that would improve the poor energy use of the gasoline based engine will do fine... overunity or not ! Anything that will use the rest of the 90 % of energy from gasoline that is wasted into thin air is of good use.
Daktariro..... You are referring to thermal efficiency. 38 percent of the heat gets lost to the cylinder walls, the oil and cooling fluid. 36 percent is lost out the exhaust. 6 percent is lost to friction in the engine. Leaving about 20 percent of the heat of the fuel to do work. Hydrogen is used in the same engine therefore not much should change.
ES... No, I am reffering to the global conversion of the chemical energy (from gasoline oxidation) to mechanical work... which, for a common Otto engine of out times is around 10 %... Beside that, you cannot possibly say that the gasoline (which is a mixture of hydrocarbures mostly made of iso-octane with relatively complex carbon catenas) will burn the same way as the gaseos hydrogen in the same engine...
ES... you were right about some companies that are trying to sell any crap to fools... But this doesn't mean that a special engine that would make use of this melange of fuels cannot be designed and improve the use of gasoline into an engine. This, IMHO explains why this device works in some cases and in some don't. This matter must be studied more, but I don't expect that some oil company will finance such research... Instead of saying "it can't be done" try to say: "what if ..?"
I have seen many arguments on this technology back nad forth between people who have and use this tech and people who never have had this tech. Both sides are for or against it and here is what I have come up with myself...
The best energy solution in nature is Hydrogen it is the simplest most effecient AND
it combines or burns to give you multiple ouput choices for resulting energy TYPES.
Disagree or Agree the fact still remains that the government uses it in many ways and so do you. Hydrogen is the basis of nearly everything except Carbon
Yes your water and without hydrogen you dont exist. Yes solar power requires Hydrogen in the equation Yes electricity generation ALSO requires this too.
Even if you convert propane to electricity your doing so based on the HYDROcarbons in the petrolieum. When you use gas in a car SAME thing different output.
the plants died because of poisoning Chromium hexavalent (CrVI) compounds, often called hexavalent chromium the water from the hydrogen cell is full of this due to the electrolysis process using stainless steel... this happens when welding stainless also..
I sent this information on to an HHO expert. You may have discovered a flaw, but only more studies will tell. It seems like the water formed from combusting the HHO gas (as opposed to condensed from steam) would be safe and not contain trace Chromium hexavalent.
The water can be tested using mass spectroscopy and this test should show if there is any contamination, or anything else in the water. The source water feed stock is another potential source of byproducts (e.g. floride, chlorine)
they bought it and locked it up so they can keep us as their energy slaves, see Daniel Dingle hydrogen car ... he runs 100 cars for 30 years on water!
If we are removing oxygen & hydrogen from water what is left, maybe dead water if so this has the potential to contaminate the water table. My test was, 10 plants in pots, 5 were watered from a used sell (tap water only), 5 plants watered from the tap, the 5 watered from a sell all suffered. Well that was my results after running the same test 3 times on 30 plants. But Im not a gardener.
Thanks for the info. I couldn't say what the water has in it after the resonance breakdown of the water in a HHO generator. If you used tap water & brute force DC, then some gas was created and I assume vented in the air. If you used a catalyst like baking soda, or perhaps impurities in the tap water could leave behind byproducts that affected the plants. If you used distilled water and a good PWM like the Bob Boyce design, I'd imagine the water would be different, but this requires testing.
There could also have been a buildup of free electrons in the water and it formed an electromagnetic dipolarity in the water, and this may have literally shocked the plants by upsettng the pH or electrolytic properties. Maybe the addition of a Meyer Electron Extraction Circuit would make a difference in the water's properties. The presence or abcence of a Pulse Width Modulator could also yield simialr or varied results. The water may kill plants initially, but may also mitigate radiated soil.
Is there is a way to put the water back together so it isn't dead? Can they turn the dead water into steam, send it up in the sky and let nature fix it so it comes back as rain but not acid rain or rain of death?
All I can say on this is: I boiled the water out of the HHO generator re-condensed the steam back to water, my plants still do not flourish when compared to the ones on tap water. Ive all most given up with HHO till I can prove to myself, Im not potentially coursing a bigger pollution problem than burning oil.
Thanks for the reply. I wonder if the water needs to go through entire cycles of sea, rain, mountains of minerals and soil and whatever else to become normal again or is the water totally beyond repair after making HHO? I am not technical.
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE promise humanity that you will not sell out to major energy companies who have an interest in killing this technology!!!! They buy the patent and never develop or bring it to market.
There are others out there besides Xogen that can make this technology in mass. It's based on Stan Meyer's patents, which have expired. Xogen's patents focus on the specific driver and freqency, but there's many ways to make HHO and do it in an over-unity senario.
HHO gas shows many promising applications including nuclear waste mitigation and water purification - not to mention creating on-demand fuel for any car or truck, or using it for electrical energy.
how much power is needed to crack water in this procedure? how much energy(heat and electricity) is produced? is this the most efficient way to use the input power
does the waste/dirty water clog plates or change the yield
If you do it right, you can create more HHO gas that what Faraday said was possible (in terms of hydrogen production).The trick is to use high voltage pulses and restrict current flow. Voltage is faster than current.
The Xogen system is not unlike other technology including the Joe Cell, and Stan Meyer Water Fuel Cell.Each varies on efficiency.Some (not Xogen) tout a 600% efficiency.Xogen hasnt released specifics regarding efficiencies.
Check out my videos with Moray King & David Wenbert
so why only Views: 11,883 ? why not 1,000,000? h2 sent people to the moon. so why not the video store ? they say this is not safe but what realy is safe a motercycle is safe but not hho gas? one last thing normal gas for your car is 87 octan but h2 gas is 130 octan what does this mean? it means lots better miles per gallon or drag raceing. do you feel safe now i know i dont but if you do thats good. we are slaves.
Actually the Xogen system can be credited to Stephen Chambers, US Patent 6,790,324 (2004). It uses pulsed square waves at 10 -- 250 KHz. Meyer's device was similar, but the electronics were analog and the frequencies were manually set and changed.
If more time was spent researching zero-point energy & less time arguing about things hard to prove (e.g. power elites), it would help push this vital technology further. Check out the transcribed interviews I have with Moray King & David Wenbert. Dr. Tom Valone is another great source who works with these technologies, as well as Dr. Steven Greer. Google: "hydrogen-gas-hybrid HOD" to see an HHO booster kit (also contact installations). Search "National Vapor," or "Water4Gas (dot) com.
The royal elite are trying to hold on to their kingdoms by spreading misinformation using the scientific community as their intellectual muscle to discredit these new technologies. They are desperatly trying to squash the proliforation of these new inventions until they find a way to control them. Right now their method is to control your thinking. Later it will be taking away all your freedom. The royal elite are running scared because they see the end to their corporate kindoms.
Take your tin foil hat talk elseware. There is no "royal elite", the inertia of adapting such scientific methods is due to the skeptical nature of the scientific community, and the even MORE skeptical nature of the business community. Change is always slow, there are always vested interests in maintaining the status quo. Deal with these facts like a rational human for f***'s sake.
It doesn't matter if the scientific community is skeptical or not. If there was no force to suppress these new technologies the inventors would build their ideas without the blessing of the closed minded Scientist. It is you Quantunfieldboy that is the irrational mind here. Change has been slow in the past but today change is happening at much faster pace in technology. I will say this: skeptism is being priced right of the market today. Given the tone of your post I can see you are just a boy.
QuantumFieldBoy: I can see you don't know you are a slave in the system. So you say to me: "Take your tin foil hat talk elseware. There is no "royal elite"". Well I could say take your ignorance else where but I reconize your right to be insulting, ignorant, and stupid. When you prove to me you own youtube then I might consider your proposal to take my point of view else where. Until then you are stuck with the like of us that see the world as it really is.
it would be great if someone could mass produce a advanced adaption for the oxygen sensers on the cars because when the people use the hho generators the oxy senser detects a lean mixture making the process less efficient im not an electrician but from what ive read its just a matter of changing the volts to the sensor to trick the vehicals computer
Yes, the piston rings would rust. You can resolve with replacing with stainless steel parts with retrofit kits.
The way I see it happening is for kits to be made for very car & truck on the road. Garages would set up shop all around the country and make the conversions. You can mix HHO with gasoline, or run the entire car off it. You'd have a reserve tank for cold startups.
The other thing we need it to be is FREE!!! This techknowllagy is not new and it not complicated.. It can be cleated in any small work shop by pretty much anyone. Its a matter of learning and there is plentty of info on line to make these things without being sold on the idea of captalistic envaulment! Lear and do or ask your freinds to help and make it a comunity project.. FREE YOUR SELF!!!!
vbrigham 6 hours ago
I like this, would have been nice if they explained it a bit more but what ever
demnlordd666 2 days ago
really informative and interesting
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farkashho 5 days ago
To me a super efficient electric heater would be more worth the research. Instead of converting the electricity to hydrogen and then to heat, why don't you skip the hydrogen step and go straight from electricity to heat.
legogunguy001 2 weeks ago
i build one... i used it for my family to cook, me i used a BIG plastic drum lots of stainless steel plate and at least five BIG 12v batteries and solar panel, total cost is $2,300 it's a little bit much, but it's wort it, you got free fire forever...
geozaf 1 month ago
How efficient?
ustunenergy 1 month ago
why the heck should i use electricity (and expensive complicated hardware) to split water molecules and then burn that to produce heat, when i can simply use the electric heater directly???
gladiator8915 2 months ago
This was posted in 2008. Where THE FUCK is this technology now?
Otherword4black 2 months ago
And all the "free energy" idiots here. No. This isn't producing any energy. Any electricity you could obtain from it, even if you somehow managed to get 100% efficiency from the hydrogen gas, would of course be less than what you could get from the batter itself. This is a water treatment machine. Did you guys even watch the video?
MikaelLAOhman 2 months ago
Can the Xogen System be used in pure Hydrogen gas vehicles? If we can create Hydrogen Gas instantaneously on-board, can the water from burning Hydrogen to run our vehicles go to the Xogen System for re-creation of Hydrogen Gas. If the cylinders fail, what does it say about the Hydrogen gas to water to Hydrogen gas process?
heartlessvietboy 2 months ago
I wonder how well this works with oil spills in water.
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MrBlaze001 3 months ago
i just dnt get it.. how they split the hydrogen and oxygen?
thinkmanworld 3 months ago
This is nothing new, your just using Stanley Meyers proces to clean wast water but the methode used belogs to Stanley Meyer
SpaceManAus 3 months ago
I would't be surprised if BP or Shell actullay bought this company to keep them quiet
niceboy60 3 months ago
do you hear what she said at 7:35 ..
frank0067 3 months ago
There's only one question needed here, how much does it get out compared to the power needed to run it? Eventually water power won't require more than an initial kickstart, running continuous input power will only be viable if a reasonable overall profit is made on the output which they haven't told us. These really need to be self-running.
satguru 4 months ago
Why doesn't somebody invent a machine that filters water into drinking water, using renewable energy?
MrYorkshireFella 4 months ago
I would very much like to purchase this Xogen Inc. Hydrogen/Oxygen generator to fuel my 2000 Honda Insight. I'll be calling your company soon. I hope these are actually available. This is truly great :-)
mindthoughts1974 4 months ago
George Bush Dis Liked this!
QCAssociates 4 months ago
They.ve been invinting stuff like this for 20 years, and every time they hit this one, someone gives them 10 million and the pat, is shelfed
sgwbyyy 4 months ago
We all neem brain washed to dp ot tje coal gas and fuel way
sgwbyyy 4 months ago
So you use electricity to break up water into two combustible gases and react those two gases to create energy and water? Its like an extra middle man, it cannot make the system more efficient. Energy + Water = Water + Energy, with just a little lost along the way I'm sure. Using wind and air would make it clean but why even use the middle man when you have clean energy + water already?
fdpirigyi 4 months ago
nice.... but how do you minimize the explosion danger when you have HHO-gas in the tube? i see a backfire waiting to happen
kilx81 5 months ago
10 oil corps disliked this.
DeadHappyFilm 5 months ago
Great clean invention !
26mel1 8 months ago
proprietary "digital electronic signal" .. obfuscating with buzzords ?
walter0bz 8 months ago
Ideas pirated.
tepan4d 8 months ago
so water does burn
pollymatication 8 months ago
less the fucking talk ,where the hell is it, this should be in every home car and whatever else ,,ffs what are you dickheads doing , going to wars and murdering ppls
for dirty oil, see if ppls dont kick doors down to get this ,,, i hope you lot rot in hell
bunch of nasty bastards,,
MtEVALs 9 months ago
@MtEVALs
Don't be Jealous.
mrbluesky323 7 months ago
MAN! I'm getting kinda sick of companies hocking their shit on YouTube! It's called YOU TUBE and it's supposed to be for the people, NOT for companies to hock their shit. You want to make an advert? Fine! Go show it on T.V. then! Not here!
Itsmeeman1 9 months ago
ok, so why do i need potentially exploding device in my house again?
mikerozo 10 months ago
So where did they get the Electricity to charge up their "Proprietary Digital Electronic Signal"? Probably from a coal plant. By the way, what are those car batteries doing over there...? Ah, never mind.
grahamnelson203 10 months ago
I always wonder why those who make these discoveries say that their tech is Proprietary ~ shouldn't the information and how to make this kind of tech, be free, if they are truly interested in environmental impacts?
Kymimom 10 months ago 3
Browns gas. this is a copywright infringment, still.. I'm glad everyone is making these with less blah blah like this... :-\
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slipshodcoqbgg 1 year ago
why the hell arent we using this?
shushkabobs 1 year ago
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It doesn't work.
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Macocio 11 months ago
@shushkabobs - because its bollocks
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urgencyharviefcem 1 year ago
this video dont contain anything new at all, this "technology" has existed since the mid 1800's, many car manefacturers today actually has working prototypes of cars running on these systems...
only thing special about this video is the over-usage of big words to make the viewer think this is something new and revolutionary...
anonymouz79 1 year ago
This is Fast Freddy's System. Tune the pipes to exact audio frequencies outside the water..then encase the base of each plate or cell very firmly in base. All plates must match audio freq. I may be wrong but @ 6:44 this might be a hydrophone.
jburnum 1 year ago
@jburnum The Bob Boyce D9 PDF file is most simialar to the Xogen system, although the difference is that in the Xogen system, the 6 inch toroid is submerged underneath the plates. The flux lines coming off the toroid cause a ressonance effect that helps dissacociate the water. Stephen Chambers is the inventor. He is also the Bro-in law of Stan Meyer!
mattimber 1 year ago 2
energy cost money
leparditas 1 year ago
HOW DOES XOGEN PRODUCE HYDROXY WITHOUT CHEMICAL ADDITIVES such as potassium hydroxide, baking soda, or sodium hydroxide. OMG THIS WOULD be so awsome to know how they acheived this!!!!???!! AHHHHHH!!!
leo959 1 year ago
@leo959: they dont produce anything, they only separate the oxygen and hydrogen contained within the H2O (water),
anonymouz79 1 year ago
This video was produced in 2008!! Why hasn't huge break through hit the nation and started in mass scale production?? Just curious.
tutor1006 1 year ago
@tutor1006 dude this so called " break through" was supposed to happen 30-40 year ago when a guy called Stan Meyer invented a car that can get from LA to NYC using 22 gallons of water
Errorbgkn1 1 year ago
@Errorbgkn1 . This is my point dude error! If this is true...i am sure it is....but could be an extremely expensive option else can you imagine the media attention it can get. You think people are going to sit quiet!! Else this nation is nothing but a self absorbed bunch of idiots.
tutor1006 1 year ago
There is nothing new here I can produce a larger flame at home for much less money and more efiecently to it seems. Hho is extremly unstable it's "perfect mix" means it can explode wlvery easily and flash back hydro carbons and pure hydrogen don't do that. Hydrides are the future not this
judoisoww 1 year ago
We need to preserve the natural wilderness.
tnguyen318 1 year ago
hello why not separate the hydrogen and oxygen, releasing oxygen and hydrogen consumption as deforestation, eliminating the production of oxygen.
AStueleccion 1 year ago
So what is taking so long to get this out to the general public?
kanoabiondolillo 1 year ago
@kanoabiondolillo any new invention that hurts any economy (power/oil/gas) will not be in use until some one finds a way to make it profitable. HHO is in the industry now you just have to look in the right places to find it. Google or youtube h20 2000.
exile341 1 year ago
@exile341 how sad is it that we have to wait for something to be profitable.
kanoabiondolillo 1 year ago
@kanoabiondolillo you can do your own HHO projects at home. You don't have to wait for major companies. The best budget systems that i know that u can buy is called HHO Dry Cell and can be bought on eBay.
exile341 1 year ago
can you say stole stan meyers idea? this was invented in 1985, whoever is in charge of comercializing these products does not deserve credit for the inventions
driscol1818 1 year ago
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henrykay01 1 year ago
Yeah, I have uncovered all 3 three different free energy machines, you can find my blog at H2onE2 com, it is called "Future energy death to Exxon". They make this water thing look stupid, low powered.
H2onE2 1 year ago
The time has come. Water to fuel your car is a reality.
tnguyen318 1 year ago
xogen the circle had to be around the (o) so it looks like another eye symbol, shame another illuminati company.
theagrafiotis 1 year ago
Heres to the "new fuel crisis" oh shi we are running out of water.
Jokes ^.^
fredb3 1 year ago
Very cool. All the best to Xogen in bringing this important technology to market. We could have something like this in the U.S.; all we need to do is move the fossil-fuel (and 'clean , safe, nuclear') energy monopolies and pig-headed mainstream academia the hell out the way! (That should be easy, right!)
jrussellslack 1 year ago
how can the water seperate with no electrolyte?
treyflip3losthispass 2 years ago
It's all about the high voltage pulse, and magnetically stretching the water molecule apart by knocking the covalent bonds of the shared electrons of water and hydrogen. Coupled with the electron extraction circuit, which pulls off the free hydrated electrons and produces a currenet, which is fed back to a battery, which can be running the water fuel cell to begin with (self running, overunity scenario). Excess energy is from the quantum vacuum (AKA the zero-point energy field/ ether)
mattimber 2 years ago
wow....if this was over unity then why don't you rule the world?
halohadel 1 year ago
@mattimber Hydrated electron? Magnetically stretching? Zero-point energy!?! ... no .. The high voltage pulse dissociates O and H2, there is work being done by the battery to do this. The work done by that battery puts energy into the system. This energy is released when the gas is burned turning back into H2O. If this was over unity no battery would be required (a simple capacitor charged ONCE would work). This method is less efficient then using the battery alone.
bombaykaizoku 1 year ago 7
@bombaykaizoku
I have access to such technology and can verify for myself that zero point energy is entrained in such devices, whether they use a PWM or brute force DC. My HHO heater see hhohhu (dot) com puts out 1000 watts of heat or more witrh only 300 watts of DC power input. So, once you can say for sure 1st hand, I'd not embarrass myself by your little denial campain against this video.
mattimber 1 year ago
@mattimber Sorry dude you cant break the laws of physics. So your missing something... Go figure it out.
bombaykaizoku 1 year ago
@mattimber Are you sure you're not embarrassing yourself? How do you get more mass/energy out of something than you put in?
praduk 1 year ago
@mattimber
Perpetuum mobile?
kasics 1 year ago
@mattimber
Perpetuum mobile?
kasics 1 year ago
@mattimber I don't think he is criticising this video. It is your erroneous explanation of the science behind it that is being commented upon.
From what I see the technology is good enough to sell itself without making up nonsense.
Your claim of 300W in to give 1000W is contrary to the laws of conservation of energy and mass. Also 'Hydrated Electrons'? Give me a break. You cannot hydrate an electron, as it is a fundamental particle of the universe.
paulrach2010 1 year ago 9
@paulrach2010 tell me i dont know all this high tech ,,is this machine real ?and how long people have known about this,,,cause there is alot of people that need to be in jail or shot,,for crimes of war,,,like most of American
presidents,, and all those yankie army bhoys and girls bunch of criminals the lot of them,
MtEVALs 9 months ago
@paulrach2010 OK. Firstly, your right about the "hydrated electron". Any highschool chemistry student can tell you that. But as to the conservation of energy law, you must remember that it applies to an ENCLOSED SYSTEM which this is not! Nobody seems to recognise this! I have been working on this project myself . There are many factors to consider (enthorpy, atmosphere around flame, to many to go through in this little text box), but my point is, this works!
book1a 6 months ago
@paulrach2010 they also said the earth was flat and we could not bend light and bla bla bla but don't worry about it because dr kaku wants to play the earth quakes and tornados its called weather control and anybody who is disagrees with it is labeled a terrorist...
mstrephoenix1 4 months ago
@mattimber I don't think he is criticising this video. It is your erroneous explanation of the science behind it that is being commented upon.
From what I see the technology is good enough to sell itself without making up nonsense. Your claim of 300W in to give 1000W is contrary to the laws of conservation of energy and mass. Also 'Hydrated Electrons'? Give me a break. You cannot hydrate an electron, as it is a fundamental particle of the universe.
paulrach2010 1 year ago
@mattimber - Ether? What do you mean? Because if you mean the medium through which lightwaves propagate, the experiment of Michelson-Morley prooved that ether doens't exist. Please explain. Thank you.
Archimedes555453525 1 year ago
@treyflip3losthispass high Voltage, high Frequency
RaulHHO 8 months ago
@treyflip3losthispass Stanley Myers the discoverer called the process "Water Fracturing" which is the Direct Transmutation of water into hydrogen and oxygen gas.
myleftnutts 6 months ago
Sweet video man
PindzMedia 2 years ago
i allready make stuff like these though i havnt made a pulse modular yet still using baking soda to help loosen the bonds.....
if only stan meyer were still here
wizard4204 2 years ago
Cool! Baking soda can create chlorine gas as a byproduct. A PWM will allow you to create even more gas with NO catalyst, but you also need to insulate the electrodes with Delrin and let the voltage take over while restricting current flow to minimum. Also, cloose spacing (1-3 mm) is crucial, and sand the 316L stainless steel plates. Spiral designs are good too. Check out my Moray King, David Wenbert & Bob Boyce videos for more info (e.g. frequecies like 42.8 KHZ).
Good luck.
mattimber 2 years ago
@mattimber thanks for the tips i was wondering why my cells allways smell like chlorine i allways thought it was something in the water in the states makes sense though...
have u checked out zerofossilfuel ? hes got alot of info thats rather relevant
ive tried a few configs myself ive posted a few of them on the tube here but your cell is marvelous
when i get back to the states and find a place to live im gonna try out your suggestions thnx alot and keep up the good work
wizard4204 2 years ago
Yes, he's one of my friends I think, or at least I subscribe to his channel. I've moved to Ohio recently adn have been busy getting settled in and not much time for HHO stuff, besides my new business, which involves selling & developing HHO heating and water treatment processes.
mattimber 2 years ago
@mattimber ive had the same thoughts like i want to make a sub that runs off water and creates its own oxygen though that would be a lil hard givin the ratio of oxygen production from a hho cell
ive had my theories of water purification through hho production but alas the ppl ive presented this to say im crazy and its not a viable purification process (though i do know its how they purify sea water)
also i want to try and develope ionization towers to create water but thats for the future
wizard4204 2 years ago
McCafferty Aerospace Concepts does this at half the price and we teach you to build your own in a free seminar.
lanman602 2 years ago
great thanks I'm building mine right now, Thanks again for the motivation. science is awesome.
lanman602 2 years ago
beautiful, versatile, flawless.
and it's not that complicated.
raptureorbust 2 years ago
ANSWER NEEDED ASAP. how can this be done with no electrolyte?
helzmcfugly 2 years ago
It's all about the voltage being used to produce work, and to restrict the current flow as much as possible. You can get dissassociation using brute force DC, but nothing compared to high voltage pusled at resonance frequencies (e.g. 48.2 KHZ). Check out my videos by Moray King, and the Bob Boyce videos. See also the Stan Meyer 1989 lecture he made in France on YouTube. Meyer's bro. in-law Stephen Chambers started up Xogen.
mattimber 2 years ago
Super !!!!!!!!
Krystianku 2 years ago
if this is so good, then it should be a household name by now, there has to be something I'm not being told here
Aleniums 2 years ago
Like the goverment are on the gas side of things? You haven't heard of "the death of the electric car?" Same goes here. You need an army, allot of PR guys and lobbyists to make this fly.
Even if the peoples mind is changed.. the oils buisness will try their best to cut you of the pipeline.
dalahast06 2 years ago
incorporating this energy source on a national scale could cause some scary things to happen. For example.
a massive economic shift away from fossil fuels, and the like.
raptureorbust 2 years ago
I'll believe it when I see it. I'd buy one of these, but they're not available. so oh well..
Aleniums 2 years ago
oes anyone know what happen with this Xogen company, nice video but no website at al...
mbas0507 2 years ago
If you negatively ionize the gas would combustion become less exothermic?
bloodstone1445 2 years ago
What you are talking about is plasma and I don't think you know what exothermic means :<
captaintrebek 2 years ago
I love how the narrator takes an already existing science and puts a pretty bow tie on it. It's an electrolysis system... Real Complex (sarcastic). Basically Xogen is a company that grew out of a persons garage who put together an electrolysis machine and made a fancy schmancy video to entice venture capitalist. How about a real break through please!!!!! not just recycled trash that everyone and their grandma's can make with a well equipped garage.
trimetaler 2 years ago
This is anything but conventional electrolysis, which separates hydrogen & oxygen to SEPARATE electrodes (anode & cathode). Xogens process is an improved version of Stan Meyers Water Fuel Cell, & uses a DC pulse width modulator around 250 MHZ applied to 316L stainless steel plates, using NO catalysts. The gasses are combined into a stoiciometric mixture of charged gas clusters of diatomic & monatomic oxygen & hydrogen & steam. Stephen Chambers was Stan Meyer's bro in-law, BTW & patented it.
mattimber 2 years ago
When using tap water I get a break down of minerals which if not filtered will slow down HHO production or cause a short,thanks for your info.
Hollywoods7 2 years ago
Distilled water is good both for hho and to drink i would only use that for both.
aaronlovespot 2 years ago
Ok...what about KW in( eletric ) and the KW ( heat ) out ??????? What we need is a way to split H & O ( water ) with less energy then we get out !!!
svennio 2 years ago
Since this is not a closed look energy system, and the excess energy is being entrained from the quantum vacuum flux field (Dark Energy), the laws of conservation don't apply at this level. The water doesn't heat up because of this, but the energy is tapped from Dark Energy. See the Tom Valone interviews where he explains this. Dark Energy is the explanaiton for most over-unity energy devices.
mattimber 2 years ago
so you are saying that you need less KW in then U get out ? Can U prove this ? Nobel prize coming your way ....! Or ?
svennio 2 years ago
In a sense, yes, I am saying this. The WFC is not producing KW, but it can with the addition of an electron extraction. The gas energy from combustion or heat energy can be over-unity in many cases. You might want to check out my Moray King interviews, and the Moray King video on Water Power presentation. It explains it a lot better than I can (over-unity and origins). The reason for suppression, I can send you a link if interested.
mattimber 2 years ago
I meant to say "closed loop" (not closed look) in the previous response and I meant to say Electron Extraction Circuit (EEC) in the second response. The David Wenbert interview also has some valuable information on the Water Fuel Cell. The Moray King Presentation video I have is much more specific technically.
Also, Patrick Kelly has written a huge amount of data on these devices.
Go here: w w w . free-energy-info . com
mattimber 2 years ago
There are government agencies currently working on this: namely NASA's GRC and their breakthrough propulsion project is working on using zero point energy/quantum vacuum. At best, what matt is suggesting is a theory - one that could have far dire consequences. What he is implying is that we are extracting the energy from a system where no energy exists. If this seems somewhat contradictory - read about the Casimir effect.
cmyersnbt 2 years ago
Daniel Dingle's Water Car runs on sea water too.
___
Goodbye gasoline.
stevebery 2 years ago
water power could be real and if you have time look at my videos. thanks
waterpowerisreal 2 years ago
there is nothing new here that isnt being made around the world in garages! so how can they have a patent?
Doversreturn 2 years ago
I think the patent is on the physicality of the plate design and arrangment, and the Pulse Width Modulator and supporting circuitry. Xogen's system uses a 10-250KHZ frequency I think. check out my video presentation from Moray King. He gets into it there: Up to 40 stainless steel electrodes;1 mm spacing, no electrolyte
10 250 KHz square wave; 90% duty cycle;12 V, 0.3 amps (3.6 watts);Produces 1 psi of gas per minute; Pulse coil controls ortho vs. para hydrogen
mattimber 2 years ago
connect this device with a lutec 1000 ,john christie electro genset !
nibus9 2 years ago
I didn't know that Lutec had a gas fuel powered genset. I thought their machines were pulse motors (similar to Bedini / Adams / pulse motors).
mattimber 2 years ago
this is all controlled and supressed by a powerful lobby within, the real reptilians !!
nibus9 2 years ago
hello you think its possible to use the resonance frequency of a piece of metal (left right movement) to replace the pistons in a combustion engine?in theory you would have endless power,only useing power to supply the sound,would be very clean energy and not meany moving parts to mantain,if anybody takes this idea to next stage remmber me when your trillianaire :>
CASTLEWEIRD 2 years ago
This might be possible, but the IC engine (esp. ones with crankshafts) are pretty inefficient. You'd do better with a rotary engine like a Quasiturbine, or a MYT engine from Angel Labs. You can retrofit any IC engine to run off of HHO gas entirely. Google: Paul Zigouras Panacea. He made such a system, similar to Stan Meyers. But the oil mob bought him out and are sitting on the technology. You need ~10-20 liters/sec to run an IC engine. Zigouras' & Meyer's units were able to do this.
mattimber 2 years ago
I meant that you need about 6-10 liters per minute (not second) of HHO to run a typical IC engine.
mattimber 2 years ago
the reason why i am asking about those devices is because im going to use them form my thesis presentation, which is also a hydrogen generator.... for presentation purpose only... kindly pls help me.... again.
martinbarilea 2 years ago
can i asked u what are the three devices did you use, after the "oxy - hydrogen" passes to the gauge?? the one that looks like a chrome container, and the other to devices... can u pls. kindly tell me... or where can i buy those devices...
martinbarilea 2 years ago
Xogen is not mass producing the WFC units, but concentrating on water treatment and energy production.
You can build one yourself using the online plans (Google: Bob Boyce D9 PDF)
For purchase an HHO generator, please see:
oxy-hydrogen . com
browngas . com
hytechapps . com
U.S. manufactures National Vapor Industries and Arizona Hydrogen
Then theres several HHO boosters using brute force DC power to produce HHO gas to improve mileage (e.g. water4gas (dot) com
mattimber 2 years ago
Mega Joules per liter.
Gasoline 34.2
Gaseous Hydrogen at room temperature 0.01079
HHO, two parts H one part O so divide 0.01079 by 3 x 2 = energy density 0.00719 Mega Joules per liter at room temp.
Raise temp to typical HHO cell temp 185 F (60 amps input) gas expands 21.76 percent.
0.00719 divided by 121.76 x 100 energy density now 0.00590 Mega Joules per liter.
34.2 Mega Joules divided by 0.00590, ratio of 5,796.6 to one. One gallon of gasoline = 5,796.6 gallons of HHO.
EnergySupply2008 2 years ago
I think that data from testing HHO combustion energy is needed before making assumptions about it. I assume you are assuming ;-)
Moray King believes there is more energy in the charged gas clusters than that from the two separte gasses combining.
Have you looked at Ken Shoulder's data? He may have this information.
BTW - someone marked your comment as Spam. I'd like to have this page as serve as a friendly exchange of information. Please, let's all be fair.
mattimber 2 years ago
Not all HHO generators (electrolyzers) have the same temperature. Some more advanced versions with Pulse Width Modulation don't heat up at all. I call these "Water Fuel Cells", and I include Xogen's device in this category. WFCs tap into zero-point (dark) energy most likely via the Casimir Effect. This energy is entrained in the WFC and enhances the effect & H20 disassociation.
Moray King says that any wattage below 2.4 watt hours/liter of hydrogen is over-unity.
mattimber 2 years ago
What a clever thing to compare volumes... ROTFLMAO... And what fancy numbers you're displaying here... LOL.... It's mass you're burning, my simian friend...
1 kg of gasoline=42.5 MJ/kg (LHV)
1 kg of Hydrogen=120.1 MJ/kg (LHV)
(LHV= low heating value)
If you consider the Higher Heating Values the difference is even bigger...
Daktariro 2 years ago
Weight is not important, volume is important. So with one gallon of gasoline equaling 5,796.6 gallons of HHO how will you haul that much HHO around with you?
EnergySupply2008 2 years ago
ES2008... why should I need to carry around all that in gas form when we have the stable H2O ? This is the real catch in my oppinion... HHO on demand ! You may also consider the fact that any kind of technique that would improve the poor energy use of the gasoline based engine will do fine... overunity or not ! Anything that will use the rest of the 90 % of energy from gasoline that is wasted into thin air is of good use.
Daktariro 2 years ago
Daktariro..... You are referring to thermal efficiency. 38 percent of the heat gets lost to the cylinder walls, the oil and cooling fluid. 36 percent is lost out the exhaust. 6 percent is lost to friction in the engine. Leaving about 20 percent of the heat of the fuel to do work. Hydrogen is used in the same engine therefore not much should change.
EnergySupply2008 2 years ago
ES... No, I am reffering to the global conversion of the chemical energy (from gasoline oxidation) to mechanical work... which, for a common Otto engine of out times is around 10 %... Beside that, you cannot possibly say that the gasoline (which is a mixture of hydrocarbures mostly made of iso-octane with relatively complex carbon catenas) will burn the same way as the gaseos hydrogen in the same engine...
Daktariro 2 years ago
ES... you were right about some companies that are trying to sell any crap to fools... But this doesn't mean that a special engine that would make use of this melange of fuels cannot be designed and improve the use of gasoline into an engine. This, IMHO explains why this device works in some cases and in some don't. This matter must be studied more, but I don't expect that some oil company will finance such research... Instead of saying "it can't be done" try to say: "what if ..?"
Daktariro 2 years ago
I have seen many arguments on this technology back nad forth between people who have and use this tech and people who never have had this tech. Both sides are for or against it and here is what I have come up with myself...
Coogrrr 2 years ago
I have built and designed a complete HHO system
I had to refine and refine this system to get it to gen 2 LPPM
I tested in a lawnmower that burns standard unleaded gas
The mower will not run solely on HHO HOWEVER!!!!
The mowers 2hr per gallon of idle time increased to nearly 4
This does NOT mean 50% improvement this means more like 30% with more factors included
Coogrrr 2 years ago
FACTS:
The best energy solution in nature is Hydrogen it is the simplest most effecient AND
it combines or burns to give you multiple ouput choices for resulting energy TYPES.
Disagree or Agree the fact still remains that the government uses it in many ways and so do you. Hydrogen is the basis of nearly everything except Carbon
Coogrrr 2 years ago
Yes your water and without hydrogen you dont exist. Yes solar power requires Hydrogen in the equation Yes electricity generation ALSO requires this too.
Even if you convert propane to electricity your doing so based on the HYDROcarbons in the petrolieum. When you use gas in a car SAME thing different output.
Coogrrr 2 years ago
the plants died because of poisoning Chromium hexavalent (CrVI) compounds, often called hexavalent chromium the water from the hydrogen cell is full of this due to the electrolysis process using stainless steel... this happens when welding stainless also..
yo43w 3 years ago
I sent this information on to an HHO expert. You may have discovered a flaw, but only more studies will tell. It seems like the water formed from combusting the HHO gas (as opposed to condensed from steam) would be safe and not contain trace Chromium hexavalent.
The water can be tested using mass spectroscopy and this test should show if there is any contamination, or anything else in the water. The source water feed stock is another potential source of byproducts (e.g. floride, chlorine)
mattimber 3 years ago
This is awesome! What a cool video, I hope they make it available and affordable for everyone today.
kaduisaui 3 years ago
they bought it and locked it up so they can keep us as their energy slaves, see Daniel Dingle hydrogen car ... he runs 100 cars for 30 years on water!
Dali777 3 years ago
Thank you. I will look up Daniel Dingle hydrogen car.
kaduisaui 3 years ago
I like the container, very clean design. Output is okay, I have cells that have higher output levels.
RisingSun350 3 years ago
xogen is gone.. i heard they were bought out! the web page is gone too....
yo43w 3 years ago
You're flat-out wrong. Do your research.
mattimber 3 years ago
No no, you're right yo43, they were totally bought out.
leotron4 3 years ago
They are stil in business. They are based in Canada.
Hint: Some Canadian companies use a (dot) ca instead of a (dot) com on the web.
mattimber 3 years ago
Now this maybe a daft question.
If we are removing oxygen & hydrogen from water what is left, maybe dead water if so this has the potential to contaminate the water table. My test was, 10 plants in pots, 5 were watered from a used sell (tap water only), 5 plants watered from the tap, the 5 watered from a sell all suffered. Well that was my results after running the same test 3 times on 30 plants. But Im not a gardener.
theDaftman 3 years ago
Thanks for the info. I couldn't say what the water has in it after the resonance breakdown of the water in a HHO generator. If you used tap water & brute force DC, then some gas was created and I assume vented in the air. If you used a catalyst like baking soda, or perhaps impurities in the tap water could leave behind byproducts that affected the plants. If you used distilled water and a good PWM like the Bob Boyce design, I'd imagine the water would be different, but this requires testing.
mattimber 3 years ago
There could also have been a buildup of free electrons in the water and it formed an electromagnetic dipolarity in the water, and this may have literally shocked the plants by upsettng the pH or electrolytic properties. Maybe the addition of a Meyer Electron Extraction Circuit would make a difference in the water's properties. The presence or abcence of a Pulse Width Modulator could also yield simialr or varied results. The water may kill plants initially, but may also mitigate radiated soil.
mattimber 3 years ago
the same thing happened to all of my plants last year when we had a hurricane. all of the grass on my lawn died when the waves got on it.
bigtruck242 3 years ago
Is there is a way to put the water back together so it isn't dead? Can they turn the dead water into steam, send it up in the sky and let nature fix it so it comes back as rain but not acid rain or rain of death?
kaduisaui 3 years ago
All I can say on this is: I boiled the water out of the HHO generator re-condensed the steam back to water, my plants still do not flourish when compared to the ones on tap water. Ive all most given up with HHO till I can prove to myself, Im not potentially coursing a bigger pollution problem than burning oil.
theDaftman 3 years ago
Sorry my comment above was a reply to one of my earlier comments but seems to have been placed as a new comment.
theDaftman 3 years ago
And again youtube get it right PLEASE!
theDaftman 3 years ago
Thanks for the reply. I wonder if the water needs to go through entire cycles of sea, rain, mountains of minerals and soil and whatever else to become normal again or is the water totally beyond repair after making HHO? I am not technical.
kaduisaui 3 years ago
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dinosauro67 3 years ago
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE promise humanity that you will not sell out to major energy companies who have an interest in killing this technology!!!! They buy the patent and never develop or bring it to market.
Cameron816 3 years ago
There are others out there besides Xogen that can make this technology in mass. It's based on Stan Meyer's patents, which have expired. Xogen's patents focus on the specific driver and freqency, but there's many ways to make HHO and do it in an over-unity senario.
HHO gas shows many promising applications including nuclear waste mitigation and water purification - not to mention creating on-demand fuel for any car or truck, or using it for electrical energy.
mattimber 3 years ago
asuuu que vacan
Jhandyveluj 3 years ago
how much power is needed to crack water in this procedure? how much energy(heat and electricity) is produced? is this the most efficient way to use the input power
does the waste/dirty water clog plates or change the yield
judas486 3 years ago
If you do it right, you can create more HHO gas that what Faraday said was possible (in terms of hydrogen production).The trick is to use high voltage pulses and restrict current flow. Voltage is faster than current.
The Xogen system is not unlike other technology including the Joe Cell, and Stan Meyer Water Fuel Cell.Each varies on efficiency.Some (not Xogen) tout a 600% efficiency.Xogen hasnt released specifics regarding efficiencies.
Check out my videos with Moray King & David Wenbert
mattimber 3 years ago
so why only Views: 11,883 ? why not 1,000,000? h2 sent people to the moon. so why not the video store ? they say this is not safe but what realy is safe a motercycle is safe but not hho gas? one last thing normal gas for your car is 87 octan but h2 gas is 130 octan what does this mean? it means lots better miles per gallon or drag raceing. do you feel safe now i know i dont but if you do thats good. we are slaves.
aaronisdumbusa 3 years ago
This is a Stanley Meyers Work. But at least someone is gitting it out.
wolkenw55 3 years ago
Actually the Xogen system can be credited to Stephen Chambers, US Patent 6,790,324 (2004). It uses pulsed square waves at 10 -- 250 KHz. Meyer's device was similar, but the electronics were analog and the frequencies were manually set and changed.
mattimber 3 years ago
If more time was spent researching zero-point energy & less time arguing about things hard to prove (e.g. power elites), it would help push this vital technology further. Check out the transcribed interviews I have with Moray King & David Wenbert. Dr. Tom Valone is another great source who works with these technologies, as well as Dr. Steven Greer. Google: "hydrogen-gas-hybrid HOD" to see an HHO booster kit (also contact installations). Search "National Vapor," or "Water4Gas (dot) com.
mattimber 3 years ago
Type: "Stanley Meyer - System Explained" this is a lecture with an excelent explaination for the process.
boosta67 3 years ago
The royal elite are trying to hold on to their kingdoms by spreading misinformation using the scientific community as their intellectual muscle to discredit these new technologies. They are desperatly trying to squash the proliforation of these new inventions until they find a way to control them. Right now their method is to control your thinking. Later it will be taking away all your freedom. The royal elite are running scared because they see the end to their corporate kindoms.
16sag7 3 years ago
Take your tin foil hat talk elseware. There is no "royal elite", the inertia of adapting such scientific methods is due to the skeptical nature of the scientific community, and the even MORE skeptical nature of the business community. Change is always slow, there are always vested interests in maintaining the status quo. Deal with these facts like a rational human for f***'s sake.
QuantumFieldBoy 3 years ago
It doesn't matter if the scientific community is skeptical or not. If there was no force to suppress these new technologies the inventors would build their ideas without the blessing of the closed minded Scientist. It is you Quantunfieldboy that is the irrational mind here. Change has been slow in the past but today change is happening at much faster pace in technology. I will say this: skeptism is being priced right of the market today. Given the tone of your post I can see you are just a boy.
16sag7 3 years ago
QuantumFieldBoy: I can see you don't know you are a slave in the system. So you say to me: "Take your tin foil hat talk elseware. There is no "royal elite"". Well I could say take your ignorance else where but I reconize your right to be insulting, ignorant, and stupid. When you prove to me you own youtube then I might consider your proposal to take my point of view else where. Until then you are stuck with the like of us that see the world as it really is.
16sag7 3 years ago
it would be great if someone could mass produce a advanced adaption for the oxygen sensers on the cars because when the people use the hho generators the oxy senser detects a lean mixture making the process less efficient im not an electrician but from what ive read its just a matter of changing the volts to the sensor to trick the vehicals computer
commando7144 3 years ago
Won't this rust the insides of my car as the by-product is water?
raymondbe 3 years ago
Yes, the piston rings would rust. You can resolve with replacing with stainless steel parts with retrofit kits.
The way I see it happening is for kits to be made for very car & truck on the road. Garages would set up shop all around the country and make the conversions. You can mix HHO with gasoline, or run the entire car off it. You'd have a reserve tank for cold startups.
mattimber 3 years ago