pontian dreaming...greek and pontian were under turkish control for many years? how u know ur grand grand dad werent turk, arabic, bulgarian etc?..there were many nation in ottoman empire..but selanik and athina ll be our cities at soon...
@61TurboLover yes !! I'm agree with you ! My mother is turkish.. but my grandmother's mother is laze, she's from Tonya. And her husband is from Caucase (Kafkasian people you know..)
And some cousins are armenians and turkish at the same time !
zicco26 you know something zicco????????????yoou turkish really have dicks????ahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahah i think your mama know better about dicks...go and ask her........ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahh gipsy people!!!
@MissVimpire25 Hello again greekie bitch, your father is calling you so be a good girl and suck your daddys little dick like you use to do, ok? By the way, you misspelled your name, it ought to be Vampire, not Vimpire. And your comments are full of shit only, nobody can understand what the hell you are talking about. I guess you got your brain fucked out already by your brother and father, "malaka". LOL!!!
WILL NEVER DIE...AND NOOOOOOOOOOO YOU GIPSY TURKISH WE DON'T HAVE THE SAME BLOOD WITH YOU....YOU HAVE THE CLEANER DNA IN THE WORLD ......OUST!!!!MALAKAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!
@MissVimpire25 Shut up bitch, why are you barking so loud? I think you are craving for some Turkish dick in your ass, right? ;-) Senin ananı avradını soyunu sopunu sikeyim orrrrrrrospu! :D
you fuking turkish you shut the fuck up...first of all go wash your fucking mouth and the talk...WE ARE GREEKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK...THE ANCIENT RACE ΙΝ ΤΗΕ WORL..ς.HAT YOU THINKING???????????YOUIMake some serials and FINALLY after all these years. ΥΟΘ ΒΕΨΑΜΕ ΣΟΜΕΟΝΕ??????GO KILL YOURSELFS;;YOU NEVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR HAVE A LAND...YOU ALWAYS STILL SOME OTHERS COUNTRY...YOU GIPSY PEOPLE WITHOUT NOTHING YOU KILLED PEOPLE..YOU ARE BARBARIANS....PONTOS WILL NEVER BE YOURS....WE PONTIAKS
@sikilmisf1907 Turks of Anatolia look like Greeks and Armenians and not like other Turks in asia because Turks of Anatolia are MIXED with Greeks and Armenians. Mimar Sinan was born Armenian. Hayreddin Barbarossa was half Greek. 14 Sultans had Greek mothers. You look like your neighbors because you ARE your neighbors. You're a Turkish speaking Muslim Greek/Armenian/Arab/Slav/Kurd/Albanian. You are brainwashed into thinking that you are actually a Turk. Kazakhs are Turks. Not you.
@AegeanKing Also Byzantine was a MULTIETHNIC state so you should not worry about the Ottomans. Todays Greeks have also Turkish/Albanian/Slavic/Arabic descent, look at the Arabian influence on Greek Cypriots. Also, so called pontic greeks were highly influenced by the Caucasian Laz people. You spoke Greek back then because it was the lingua franca, fine, but since a very long time already it is Turkish so deal with it! Miserable and defeated Greeks just can agitate Turks online, lol
@zicco26 Turks were getting their asses kicked so bad that the Sultan had to give away land to Muhammad Ali of Egypt in exchange for troops from Egypt to come to Greece and try to crush the rebellion. Not only did you lose land battles, but Greeks, with their tiny ships DESTROYED a large portion of the Turkish fleet including the Ottoman Flagship. You call our revolution cheap, but farmers and peasants beat the janissaries and the largest army in the region. eat shit Mongolian.
@zicco26 They did not "accept"other people into their society. The took women by force after they destroyed byzantine towns. They bought them from the SLAVE MARKETS of Istanbul. Hurrem Sultan was captured as a slave by barbarian tatars and was brought to the Sultan by FORCE. Also, I never said the Byzantine Empire was not a multi-ethnic state. I said it was Greek in culture and language and Roman in law.
@zicco26 Turkish culture is neither adorable or unique. Turkish culture is backwards and primitive. Illiterate nomads riding from Asia drinking their horse milk and living with their 4 wives in Yurts while they go out during the day to raid and destroy PEACEFUL Byzantine towns. Listen Mongolian, there is simply no comparison between the primitive Turks and the highly cultured and highly civilized Byzantines. One had beautiful cities and royal courts, the other, Yurts and 4 wives.
@AegeanKing The Devşirme system from inside the empire was one thing and taking prisoners of wars as cariye from outside the empire was totally another. It was one of the principles that only voluntaries could become a Devşirme. It was forbidden by law to take Devşirme by force, this story of "stolen ones" is your fiction. In fact, the run to enroll at the Ottomans was pretty high as the glory, education, honor as well as the benefits became evident. Devşirme and slaves were diferent
@zicco26 The Devshirme system inside the borders of the Empire was literally a child tax. What is the fantasy is that Christian mothers were willingly handing over their babies so they could be forcefulyl converted to Islam, Satans religion, and then be trained to oppress and kill Christians. That is your fantasy. Devshirme was a brutal system of STEALING children from their mothers arms and anybody who knows anything about the Ottomans will know that. You are just a propagandist.
@AegeanKing It was against customs and forbidden by law to make Devşirme forcibily! Youth who proved unsuccessful later HAD to be given back to their families where they come from by CONSENT. The vast majority knew what a great honor and opportunity Devşirme was. There was nothing like "stealing from their mothers arms", how pathetic. Conservative Greeks/Serbs successfully invented this tale to detract from their defeat. Also, Devşirme always maintained the contact to their families
@zicco26 LOL!!! Devsirme as NOT by consent!! It was called a blood TAX for a reason. - "The conquered are slaves of the conquerors, to whom their goods, their women, and their children belong as lawful possession.." - Kara Khalil Chendereli, founder of the Janissaries
@AegeanKing You`re an idiot AegeanPrincess. Çandarlı Kara Halil Paşa was an Ottoman pioneer in the 14th century! It was the time when Ottomans started to establish themselves on the Balkans. During these wars the Ottomans succeeded and prisoners of wars felt into the hands of Turks. The idea of Turkiciced Yeniçeri soldiers was derived from this context, but has less to do with the Devşirme policy in the following periods within the Ottoman Empire, which was strictly bound to rules.
@zicco26 No, you are the idiot you illiterate nomad. The devshirme system was by force and your attempt to change history to make Turks seem more civilized is pathetic. Christians were not allowed to prosper. Christians were not allowed to ride horses, carry weapons, wear the color green, testify against a muslim and they were not allowed to read the Bible outside. Those are just some of the few ridiculous and oppressive policies of the mongolian ottomans.
@AegeanKing Remember also the Karamanoğlu who were Oğuz and part of the Afşar tribe. Even your former premier Karamanlis has Turkish roots. If we are ever going to kick your asses again we won`t like it because a lot of Greeks have some Turkish blood, too.
@zicco26 Are you on drugs? The region that you call Karaman is Laramanda. It is a Greek region filled with Greeks. Those turcophone Greeks you speak of WROTE with Greek letters. They were turkified Greeks under the Seljuks after manzikert. You don't know anything about these people. They have ORIGINAL Greek customs, Greek writings and Orthodox religion. Only the language was Turkish because they were isolated from the Byzantine Empire after 1071. There is no Turkish blood in Greeks.
@AegeanKing Devşirme system was also an attempt to give orthodox people the possibility to come on the right side and even to catch important positions in the Empire. How many other victors showed this goodwill to the defeated? Devşirme still used to stay in contact with their families. After being successfully Turkiciced and getting true Ottoman Muslims they also favorably served their hometowns like Sinan or Mehmet Sokollu did. Not all, but Ortho-Dogs like you love to defame them.
@AegeanKing On the other hand, you have also all these Turks in Greece who had to convert to Orthodoxy if they wanted to avoid torture and death during your "revolution". This is something you don`t like to mention. When Ottomans expanded their Empire and conquered, they granted also you and Jews to live. The Greek society was even making profits. When you "revolted" and gained sovereignty in the 19th century, we experienced ONLY torture, death or conversion! This is your tolerance!
@zicco26 There is no evidence of forced conversion in the Morea. Massacre, yes. Forced conversions, absolutely not. In fact, Kolokotronis tried to get the "Turks" who were really Greek and Albanian Speaking Muslims, to join in the revolution. There is no doubt that massacres happened during the revolution. But you are being intellectually dishonest and a liar by claiming forced conversions during the revolution.
@AegeanKing There are plenty sources of evidence that Turks also were converted to Orthodoxy, as well as European and especially Ottoman! People like Mehmet Mâcid experienced and seized French documents about it. British historians affirmed it too. All Ottoman officials knew about it and not just in 1821, also later when Greeks gained more sovereignty. We can see that this happened from time to time until 1912. However, the majority was tortured and brutally murdered of course.
@zicco26 This is false. There were no Turks in the Morea that were forcefully converted to Orthodoxy. None of the Klepht leaders ever did such a thing. Stop your lies and propaganda. There were massacres but there were no forced conversions in the Morea.
@AegeanKing Kolokotronis and the other gay activists indeed tried to make Turks also "to join the revolution", in their own specific way. Even Greeks were determined to torture and massacre all Turkish civilians, conversions were seen also to enhance your movement at least. Plenty of Turks lived in other parts of Greece, too. Later, they were not all massacred but converted also. And the Tuks there didn`t get the opportunity to leave to a home country like the pontic greeks got!
@zicco26 In fact, the forced conversion was done by the Turks on the Greeks by raising taxes so high on the dhimmi that weak minded people converted to escape persecution and taxes.
@AegeanKing Taxes were imposed, but they had to take care that these taxes never made them suffer! Also Christians didn`t joined the army. This was part of the laws. Besides in wars, Christians HAD to be left untouched. Within the Ott. Empire, Jews AND Chistians were able to continue and even prosper. Could you have shown this generosity too? It was more the glory of Ottomans that induced to convert! Also, Balkans became an important trading place under the Ott. for the first time.
@zicco26 In fact, the Greek word for Devshirme is "παιδομάζωμα" which literally means "The gathering of Children" . Greeks and Bulgarians used to disfigure their sons on purpose so they would not be taken. You obviously do not know the first thing about the Devshirme system. Mimar Sinan was TAKEN forcibly from his CHRISTIAN parents and FORCED to convert to Islam. I can give HUNDREDS of examples of this practice.
@AegeanKing Of course Turks accepted also other people into their society. Turks mastered warfare as well as diplomacy and acceptance. How many other nations were like that? Besides the majority of the Turkish titular nation we have also Laz, Circassian, Kurdish and Pomak etc. origins and also intermarriages, this is an enrichment but everyone is today equally accepted as a Turk. In public affairs every member of the state is treated equally as a Turk. The same like in Russia, too.
@zicco26 Also, before you say anything about those Greeks from Cappadocia or Karaman as you call it, know that they are Greeks and not Turks. The fact that they had Greek customs and wrote in the Greek alphabet is proof of this even though their language underwent turkification. Plus, history attests to it since we know that Greeks have been living in that area for thousands of years.
@zicco26 In fact, during the Greek revolution, both of the Ottoman governor/Generals who were defeated were of Albanian Descent Dramat Ali Pasha and his cousin from Egypt Ibrahim Pasha, son of the Albanian governor of Egypt, Muhammad Ali.
@sikilmisf1907 Greek population has only 14 million because of the FORCED conversions and killings of the Turks. How many Greek children were stolen and turned into Turks by Devshirme? How many Greeks in anatolia converted to Islam to escape high taxes and persecution? Do you know what the Hellenistic age is? The entire land of Anatolia was speaking Greek. Google it and stop being an idiot mongolian.
@AegeanKing I should fuck your brain AegeanPrincess, how dare you call us not Turks?! Do you know the Oğuz Turks populazing whole Anatolia around a thousand years ago? Yes, remember that name because they were the ones who smashed your piggy Byzantine army. The Turkic world was (and is) very widespread and had numerous clans and tribes, thus making them very manifold. Oğuz were a very large one who moved steadily westwards from Central Asia, the name TURKiye refers to that idiot!....
@AegeanKing The Oğuz TURKICIZED Anatolia. If you look at the unique and adorable Turkish culture you can see how Turks perfected their authenticy with a rich conglomeration! Turkish culture is authentic AND eclectic. Later the Ottomans Barbarossa and Sinan were Turkicized Devşirme and devşirme had to be done by CONSENT. And speaking about Greeks in Turkey: look how many Turks were killed or had to CONVERT to ORTHODOXY after greeks took the opportunity and made their cheap revolution.
@zicco26 Devshirme was done by consent?? LOL!!! Oh yea? Is that why the father of Mehmed Sokollu Pasha offered gold to Mehmed bey, they man in charge of devshirme, to return him? You are telling lies. Devshirme was NOT by consent and the fact that you would even suggest such a thing shows how little of your own history you actually know. Also, you call our revolution cheap, but you LOST almost every land battle even though you outnumbered us by more than 5 to 1.
@sikilmisf1907 Trapezuntas means table top. It is the name given to the Plateaus of Trabzon. Pontos does not mean Persian idiot. Pontos is a Greek word that means "sea". Read HOMER! Read the ancient Greek historian Herodotus. Greeks have lived in the black sea for thousands of years. Do you know what the Hellenistic age is idiot? Turks are from Asia go back to ASIA MONGOLIAN!!!
@sikilmisf1907 Idiot! Greek have been living there for thousands of years! Read Homer! The original name of Trabzon is TRAPEZUNTAS. This is the original name. You are from Asia! Go back to Asia!! RUM is GREEK!!
@sikilmisf1907 No. I did not say because Mithradates was Greek, that makes Trabzon Greek. Trabzon is Greek because the people who lived there were Greek. Trabzon is a GREEK WORD. Pontos is a GREEK word. Turks are from asia. Trabzon is for the GREEKS!!! You are a brainwashed idiot. TRABZON IS A GREEK WORD BECAUSE GREEK PEOPLE LIVED THERE!!!
@sikilmisf1907 Mithradates IV was Greek and Persian. He is related to Antigonus I Monophthalmus who was a general of Alexander the Greats. The Population was Greek. Trabzon is a Greek name. Pontos is a Greek name.
Merhabalar,Trabzonlular Turk yok Rum yok Laz tartismasi cok uzun ve genis bir konudur ve Tarih bilgisi olmayanlarin yapmis oldugu sacma bir tartismadir.Trabzonlu bir Kipcak ve Cepni,Cecen kani tasiyan biri olarak ne fark eder RUM deyin bana;ben ELHAMDULILLAH muslumanin benim kimligim bu yoksa Nijeryali deseniz ne yazar ki! Irkcilik DNA cilik inancsiz insanlarin pesinde kostugu 19,20,21 ....yuzyillarin en buyuk hastaligidir.Saygilar selamlar...
@blueeyes967967 xaxaxa,, trabzonlular turk degil, anlamadıgınız ??!!,,,trabzonlular turklari sikeler,, fuck you turk mongoloid race.. sizin kultur yoktur piclar.. diyojen sinope....... strabon amasia... Mitridat Ktistes,,,,,, Pontus Cumhuriyeti ++++
@blueeyes967967 la sen pic, orospu cocugi,, trapezounda pontusdir pontus kalacak..turkiye olamas,, biz antic yilarinda trapezounda yasamistik,, siz tyurk-mongolistndan geldiz barbar okkupasion yaptis bizim topraklarimizda...you turkish idiots,,you dont have country ok?! anladin??
Arkadaşım trabzon pontus diye bi devlet yok tarihte trabzon imp. var bilmiyorsan bi zahmet tarihi kitaplara bak yunanistana gönderilen hiristiyinlar türk asılıydı, karadenizin konuşmasındaki farklılık kardenizde kıpcak ve cepni türklerinin ağızlarını birleşmesidir kardenizin yüzde 80ni cepni yüzde 20 si kıpcak türküdür, sene tevsiyem o pontusunuda alyunanistana git bizide fazla rahatsız etme .Karadeniz osmanlıdan öncede türktü şimdide türk kalın kafana sok.
I am greek with origin from Pontus and I always remember my grandfather telling that when he was living in Santa, he had very good relationship with the Turks, they were friends.Later when we were for some years in Germany our best friends were Turks.There is no bad religion, bad nationality or bad country. There are bad people and the bad people can be Greek, Turkish, British, American bla bla bla. Don t let the people of finance control your mind...All the bright minds free yourself...
@DutchTurkish Go fuck yourself mongolian. Turks belong in Asia. Everything you have is built by Greeks. All the cities in Thrace are built by Greeks. Bursa, Edirne, Izmir, Efes, Bodrum, Trabzon , etc. ALL built by Greeks. Turks build NOTHING. Turks belong in ASIA!!!!
Well, sounds very good. Doesn´t matter which language. Don´t listen to the guys who like putting bad words in their mouth. We say: Bad words belong to their Owners and Speakers. We have a common history. We have been connected for a long time and we still do feel the same. You have also the right to call this place your home like they do. That´s why i like this kind of music
dı vi derida çı qas laz i dev bıxuyn hene ez dı kuzi diya wananım ex dı devi jına bave wenim ez dı jına wenım de hunji bıxunın wi yaziyamın lazi qunek jıni lazan hemu qunekin em lı stenboli bı kuzi jıni lazan idaredıkın
In Schwarzmeer leben GR Volk (ROMIOS), Türken sieht Moggolisch Aus.Alle Andere ist kurden und armenien.DU LASO hast 1e europaisch gesicht 2e XORON=XOROS GR=DANCE.So enlich ist CRETA! Die Türken wissen die Warheit!Das Wegen TR militar drückt immer ihre politik.PONTOS ist ein GR bundesland mit eigene sprache so enlich wie GR. Beispiel in Deutscland (NRW-BAYER).MACH AUGEN AUF UND KUCKEN SIE BITTE IN IHRE LAND DAS ERDE IST VOLL ARCHAIOLOGISCH VON IHRE VOLKS!!
Ben milliyetciyim ve kolumda ne mutlu turkum diyene dovmem var ama bazi insanlar milliyetciligin bokunu cikariyor yavu bre adam kurtun da laz in da arnavutun da farkli dil i ve kulturu var bu TURKIYEMIZ ICIN ZENGINLIKDIR, kabul edemeyenler sakat dir kafadan ha turkiye boleceyiz dersalar o zaman sovmeye bongurmaye baslayabilirsiniz, ama yok muzik de turk sozleri yok bu da ne derseniz sapittiniz artik YETER ulkemizi bolecek bir sey var ise o da asiri milliyetcilik dir.
sikerim lan yunan isimlerini , kürtlerlen ugrasdik bi siz eksiktiniz oturun yerinize yoksa sira size gelir ibneler , türk kimligi begenmeyen siktir olur gider bu topraklar bizim rüyanizda bile göz dikmeyin yoksa sizi öyle bir hale getiririz anneniz bile tanimaz tabuta bakinca
Lazistan Diye Birsey Yok! Olmadi! Olmayacak! Laz´iz ama Bu Demek Olmuyor Ki Türk Degiliz. Ve Türkiyeyi Bölmek Isteyen Her Serefsizlere Karsiyiz. Bu Yunan olsun, Kürt Olsun , Amerikali Olsun , Avrupali Olsun, Israil´li olsun.Türkiyeyi Sizin Gibilerine Böldürmeyiz. Saaten Gücenüz Yetmez Bizi Bölmeye. Almanyada Yasiyorum. Trabzonluyum Ve Cok Trabzonlu Arkadaslarim Var. Tanidigim Hepsinin Türkiyeye Cani Feda. Lazistan Lafini Uydurana Sokayim. Sehitler Ölmez , Vatan Bölünmez. Ve Trabzon Türkiyedir!
@graw21 VALLAHA AYIP SANA BIRDE TRBZONLUYUM DERSIN BIRDE LAZIM MI DERSIN? ONCE INSAN OLMAYI OGREN KENDINE HORMET EDIP SAYGILAMANI OGREN SONRADA GIT BIR DNA TESTI YAP OZAMANDAN SONRA DA SURATIN VARSA GERI GEL YINE DE KONUS !!!TARIHTEN HIC HABERIN YOK BEYNIN YIKANMIS BIR ADAMSIN ISTE VE BU MILLETLERE FITIL KOYAN ICINDE ZEHIR OLA NEFRET EDEN KOTULUGUNDEN KAHIR EDEN BIRI VARSA O DA SENSIN YAZIKLAR OLSUN AYIP GUNAH
bir gercek var dir, tek "soy" olarak anadoluya göc eden büyük anlamda tek "irk" türklerdir, kipchak türklerinden tutun, khazar türklerine kadar karadeniz son 1000 yil türk soylarinin ana yurdudur. propaganda bir kenara, bu gercegi kimse inkar edemez.
en komigi, dün bir filime baktim antonio banderasin filmi: 13inci savasci - orda arabistandan karadenize göc ediyor, ve tek tek, oguzlarin, hazarlarin, tatarlarin ortamindan bas ediyor.
hem bu arada, burda sacma sapan konusan lavuklar, yok karadenizin milleti, cepni türklerin boyutunden gelir, yok bizansin rumlasmis hetitlerinden, yok yuncaya asimile olmus kavkasya milleti, bilmem ne.
gercek bir vardir, yunanlar dilini ve dinini hic bir zaman göc akimiyla dagitmamistir, "hellenism" bir kültür ve din" anlamidir, zamaninda hindistana kadar yunan dinini ve kültürüne sahip olan insanlar vardir, bunlarin hepsi "YUNAN" mi ? ulan, ne sacma cahil millet bizim millet.
Grekim avat Pontos Unan mutlu miletiim.Sizin gibi Mongol dagilim Sizlarin milati savas sirasinda Uruslar cok sikmislar Tamerlanda sikmis//Sizin antik Milatiz ek nada ola bilir//Mongolarin sikindan sonra olmussunuz Oguz sonra Selguk sonra Osmanlar sindida 1920ylinda Turk oldunuz..Siz bastartsiniz milatsiz..Ha ha ha Γαμοτι ζωησας////
Bu videonun sahibine katiliyorum. Türkiye Cumhuriyetinde okadar millet yasiyor. Ve kökleri ayri bi yerlere daayaniyor. Kimse benim vatanimin zopraklarindaki insanimi disliyamaz... Hepimiz bi bayrak altinda yasiyoruz.... Özellikle karadenizde yasayan rum laz hic farketmez. Özelikle bunlar kardadenizdeki insanlar bi cocugumuzdan Türk. Karadeniz insanini savundugum gibi dogudaki insanlari savunamam ama. Bunuda inkar edememem..
Kafataşçılar evlerinde otursun. Onlar müzik değil yabani hayvan höykürmesi dinlesin. İnsanlığın ortak değeri olan ve bu topraklarda yıllarca çalıp söylenen bu melodileri de ağızlarına almasınlar. Allah aptal insanlara yemek yemek için ağız verdi, okadar.
tamam biz acıgız her yola gelsinlerr yasasınlar bende ısterım ama bariş içinde..! ama onlardan kımse kalmadı sımdı ..!! gerı donmek kım ısterkı ..! belkıde bızler sızın akrabalarınızız gelsınlerr ama unutma bu MEMLEKETTE GOZU OLANIN GOZU CIKAR ...!!! 61
Kendini bilmezler kendinize gelin istersen kürtüm lazım de ama Türkiye ye her zaman sahip çıkmalısın saygı duymalısın.her düşünceye saygımız var fakat düşünceler samimi ve gerçekçi olmalıdır.CcC
dunyanin en zengin ulkesi turkiye turku lazi cerkezi kurdu rumu ile tam bir sentez beyley bu uklede calisan devletine vergi veren herkes kardes bir birimizden nefret etmeyi birakalim, hepimiz turkiyenin insaniyiz ve turkiyeyi SEVIYORUZ
@graw21 VALLAHA AYIP SANA BIRDE TRBZONLUYUM DERSIN BIRDE LAZIM MI DERSIN? ONCE INSAN OLMAYI OGREN KENDINE HORMET EDIP SAYGILAMANI OGREN SONRADA GIT BIR DNA TESTI YAP OZAMANDAN SONRA DA SURATIN VARSA GERI GEL YINE DE KONUS !!!TARIHTEN HIC HABERIN YOK BEYNIN YIKANMIS BIR ADAMSIN ISTE VE BU MILLETLERE FITIL KOYAN ICINDE ZEHIR OLA NEFRET EDEN KOTULUGUNDEN KAHIR EDEN BIRI VARSA O DA SENSIN
LAZ USAKLARI EN KOYU TÜRKLERDIR !!! cCc !!! BOZKURT LAZOGLI !!! VATANIMIZ icin sehit oluruz "" lazistan mazistan"" YOK ISTEMIYORUZ BIZIM GÖZ GIBI VATANIMIZ VAR TÜRKIYE """ 61 """
@delidir61 sen aslini neden inkar ediyorsun! adam Lazca söylüyor! buda bir allahin dilidir! Her dil allahin bir ayeti dir!! inkar adan, bütün kayinati inkar etmis gibi olur!
@delidir61 lazlık mazlık yok diyorsun iyi, Trabzonluyum diyorsun oda iyi, Türküm diyorsun oda çok iyi, Müslümanım diyorsun oda çok çok iyi, iyi olmayan bişe var '' Allah '' yazmasını bilmiyorsun ve '' Allah '' tek yazılır bitişiğinde harf, ek, olmaz. sevgi ve selamlarımla.
bizi bazılarıyla karıştırmayın arkadaşlar. Hayaller peşinde değil gerçeklerin peşindeyiz. Bakın bazı kişiler yaşasın bilmem ne, var olsun bilmem ne, nidaları atıyorlar. Yazık. Yazık ki neyin yaşadığını, neyin var olduğunu görmüyorlar. işte gerçek ; TÜRKİYE yaşıyor ve TÜRKİYE var. varmı bunun ötesi berisi.
insan a insan oldugundan oturu saygi vardir milliyeti din i hic onemli d egil onemli olan mertligi durustlugu ve serefidir oli imasthe adelfii giasouuu oli mas)
bir daha da ne türk kelimesini ağzına al ne de rum...çünkü insanlığın bu iki değeri senin ağzına yakışmıyor.sen bol bol kürtleri ve kürdistanını an.sana bu kadar uzun bir cevap dahi vermeyecektim fakat insansın.insan oldugun için değer buldum ve sana cevap verdim.umarım ne demek istediğimi anlamışsındır...hoşçakal...
yorum yaptığını zannediyorsun lakin dünyadan bi habersin.şuan milliyetçiliği sen mi yoksa ben mi yapıyorum?bir düşün değerli dostum demokrasiden insan haklarından bahsedilerek ırk milliyetçiliğine mikro milliyetçiliğe itilen benmiyim sen misin acaba?dedelerimin kemikleri sızlıyor lakin sizler gibisi bu vatanın güzelliklerini yok ettiği için sızlıyor.ben türkiyeliyim,insanım ve aslım da rum.ben türkiyeliyim ve de türküm nitekim....
@kaliontzidis cok guzel bır yorum ceske herkes böyle dusunse .....bu ulkenın gelecegı barış ve huzur olmalı ....herkes cesıtlıklerıyle butun olmalı ...
Su senin yazini okuyunca ne kadar sevindim, sizin gibi insanlarda var, Ben Turkum ama insan oldukdan sonra, bu vatan hepimizin, Boluculugun her turlusune lanet olsun.
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siktir lan türkler senin sülalenin soyunu kuruttu lan kaprak adamlar sizlerin kemence horonunu alip türk diye millete yutturdular sen ise bana burda vatan müdafasindan bahsediyorsun sülalenin atalarinin kemikleri sizliyor simdi
Yediği tabağa sıçmak sizin için bir şereftir. :) Biz yemek yediğimiz eli yüceltiriz. Ne şerefsizler bizide isyan etmeye zorladı ama nafile. sende o koca götünü daha fazla oynatma, burda boklu göt sikicek adam yok.
kürt milleti hic bir zaman bas egmez diyorsun. kürtler yasam boyunca hep bas egmistir. neden mi, cünkü okadar yillar asirlar imparatorlar gecti bi devlet kuramadiniz. gelen gecen devlet kurdu. hatta luxemburg gibi 1 milyon nufusu olmayan millet bile devlet kurdu. kiskanclinizdan ve cahillinizden kuramadiniz! kim boyun egmez biliyormusun. TÜRKLER BOYUN EGMEZ !!! tarih okursan anlarsin !! tabi okuma yazman varsa, magradan cikmadiginiz icin bilmiyorsundur belki ;)
@KurdeLibanon47 la olm gavat kürtleri adam yerine koyan yok. siktir git şurdan. Amq daha dün amerikan bombardımanı fırsat ırakta yıllarca kardeş yasadınız ınsanlara sıktınız orospu oğlu orospunun doğurdukları. Baş eğmezmişmişler sikimin kırma kolları.
Karadeniz(Pontos) rumları Yunanistan'daki adalardan göç edenlerle ve 4. haçlı seferinde istanbuldan bu bölgeye kaçan insanlardan oluşmuştur.Bölgeye ilk rum m.ö. 400-500 yılları öncesinde keşfedilip Yunanistan'a geri dönmüştür.Karadenizin kuzeyi ''Kırım-Kafkasya'' üzerinden gelinmiştir bu bölgeye.Güçlü ''Pers(İran)'' ordusuyla savaşmaktansa evlilik ilişkisiyle bağlanmayı tercih edip Pontosun perslilerle akrabalık bağını oluşturmuşlardır.
Bu dil orijinal haliyle ''ROMEİKA''dır.Pontoslular bu dile ''PONTİAKA'' derler.Rome(Roma)ika(-ca,-ce) olarak kelime yapısı oluşmuştur.Türkler ise ''RUMCA'' derler.Lakin Bizans rumcasıyla biraz farklılıklar gösterir.Nitekim dezenformasyona tabi tutulmuş ve nispeten asimile olmuştur...
aslen ama ben türkiyeliyim.hiç kimse bu vatanın bölünmezliğini gündeme bile getiremez.kültürel faaliyetler insanın özüdür.ben buyum ve değişemem.ailem 60 küsür yıldır istanbuldalar ben de istanbul doğumluyum.lakin vatana karşı yapılacak karşı harekette bu tehlikelere karşı müdaafada en ön saflarda olmaktan büyük haz duyarım.videolarımı büük bir sabırlar izleyen,dinleyen herkese sonsuz teşekkürlerimi bir borç bilirim.saygılar....
tamam aslimizi inkar etmiyoruz , edemeyiz ama sonucta unutmayin ki TÜRK vatandasiyiz. yok bilmemne zistan , bilmemne tos, bilmemne tas bilmemne toprak yok , tek bir sey var oda TÜRKiYE CUMHURiYETi. NE MUTLU TÜRKÜM DiYENE.... bitti....
yunanlilar sizde türksünüz
hustla30100 3 days ago
pontian dreaming...greek and pontian were under turkish control for many years? how u know ur grand grand dad werent turk, arabic, bulgarian etc?..there were many nation in ottoman empire..but selanik and athina ll be our cities at soon...
61TurboLover 2 weeks ago
@61TurboLover yes !! I'm agree with you ! My mother is turkish.. but my grandmother's mother is laze, she's from Tonya. And her husband is from Caucase (Kafkasian people you know..)
And some cousins are armenians and turkish at the same time !
Bibi67stras 2 weeks ago
go and kill yourself....bb
MissVimpire25 1 month ago
ty zicco!!!!i agree with you...are you happy now?????j
MissVimpire25 1 month ago
@MissVimpire25 shut up bitch :P
zicco26 1 month ago
zicco26 you know something zicco????????????yoou turkish really have dicks????ahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahah i think your mama know better about dicks...go and ask her........ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahh gipsy people!!!
MissVimpire25 1 month ago
@MissVimpire25 Greek Gypsy scum crying because his ass got kicked by turks zuahahaha
Culturagood 1 month ago
@MissVimpire25 Hello again greekie bitch, your father is calling you so be a good girl and suck your daddys little dick like you use to do, ok? By the way, you misspelled your name, it ought to be Vampire, not Vimpire. And your comments are full of shit only, nobody can understand what the hell you are talking about. I guess you got your brain fucked out already by your brother and father, "malaka". LOL!!!
zicco26 1 month ago
Λαφαζαν να λελευω αικον λαλιαν .Εκιτι παλαιοι μας ταξειδευετε
TRAPEZOYNTIOS 1 month ago
Ahh retarded facists from bothside arguing over music video..You guys plz get a job do a world favor.
schattenfaust 1 month ago
WILL NEVER DIE...AND NOOOOOOOOOOO YOU GIPSY TURKISH WE DON'T HAVE THE SAME BLOOD WITH YOU....YOU HAVE THE CLEANER DNA IN THE WORLD ......OUST!!!!MALAKAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!
MissVimpire25 2 months ago
@MissVimpire25 Shut up bitch, why are you barking so loud? I think you are craving for some Turkish dick in your ass, right? ;-) Senin ananı avradını soyunu sopunu sikeyim orrrrrrrospu! :D
zicco26 1 month ago
you fuking turkish you shut the fuck up...first of all go wash your fucking mouth and the talk...WE ARE GREEKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK...THE ANCIENT RACE ΙΝ ΤΗΕ WORL..ς.HAT YOU THINKING???????????YOUIMake some serials and FINALLY after all these years. ΥΟΘ ΒΕΨΑΜΕ ΣΟΜΕΟΝΕ??????GO KILL YOURSELFS;;YOU NEVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR HAVE A LAND...YOU ALWAYS STILL SOME OTHERS COUNTRY...YOU GIPSY PEOPLE WITHOUT NOTHING YOU KILLED PEOPLE..YOU ARE BARBARIANS....PONTOS WILL NEVER BE YOURS....WE PONTIAKS
MissVimpire25 2 months ago
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AegeanKing 2 months ago
Trabzon not turk, every normal person knows this reality.
tutti776 2 months ago
@sikilmisf1907 Turks of Anatolia look like Greeks and Armenians and not like other Turks in asia because Turks of Anatolia are MIXED with Greeks and Armenians. Mimar Sinan was born Armenian. Hayreddin Barbarossa was half Greek. 14 Sultans had Greek mothers. You look like your neighbors because you ARE your neighbors. You're a Turkish speaking Muslim Greek/Armenian/Arab/Slav/Kurd/Albanian. You are brainwashed into thinking that you are actually a Turk. Kazakhs are Turks. Not you.
AegeanKing 2 months ago
@AegeanKing Also Byzantine was a MULTIETHNIC state so you should not worry about the Ottomans. Todays Greeks have also Turkish/Albanian/Slavic/Arabic descent, look at the Arabian influence on Greek Cypriots. Also, so called pontic greeks were highly influenced by the Caucasian Laz people. You spoke Greek back then because it was the lingua franca, fine, but since a very long time already it is Turkish so deal with it! Miserable and defeated Greeks just can agitate Turks online, lol
zicco26 2 months ago
@zicco26 Turks were getting their asses kicked so bad that the Sultan had to give away land to Muhammad Ali of Egypt in exchange for troops from Egypt to come to Greece and try to crush the rebellion. Not only did you lose land battles, but Greeks, with their tiny ships DESTROYED a large portion of the Turkish fleet including the Ottoman Flagship. You call our revolution cheap, but farmers and peasants beat the janissaries and the largest army in the region. eat shit Mongolian.
AegeanKing 2 months ago
@zicco26 They did not "accept"other people into their society. The took women by force after they destroyed byzantine towns. They bought them from the SLAVE MARKETS of Istanbul. Hurrem Sultan was captured as a slave by barbarian tatars and was brought to the Sultan by FORCE. Also, I never said the Byzantine Empire was not a multi-ethnic state. I said it was Greek in culture and language and Roman in law.
AegeanKing 2 months ago
@zicco26 Turkish culture is neither adorable or unique. Turkish culture is backwards and primitive. Illiterate nomads riding from Asia drinking their horse milk and living with their 4 wives in Yurts while they go out during the day to raid and destroy PEACEFUL Byzantine towns. Listen Mongolian, there is simply no comparison between the primitive Turks and the highly cultured and highly civilized Byzantines. One had beautiful cities and royal courts, the other, Yurts and 4 wives.
AegeanKing 2 months ago
@AegeanKing The Devşirme system from inside the empire was one thing and taking prisoners of wars as cariye from outside the empire was totally another. It was one of the principles that only voluntaries could become a Devşirme. It was forbidden by law to take Devşirme by force, this story of "stolen ones" is your fiction. In fact, the run to enroll at the Ottomans was pretty high as the glory, education, honor as well as the benefits became evident. Devşirme and slaves were diferent
zicco26 2 months ago
@zicco26 The Devshirme system inside the borders of the Empire was literally a child tax. What is the fantasy is that Christian mothers were willingly handing over their babies so they could be forcefulyl converted to Islam, Satans religion, and then be trained to oppress and kill Christians. That is your fantasy. Devshirme was a brutal system of STEALING children from their mothers arms and anybody who knows anything about the Ottomans will know that. You are just a propagandist.
AegeanKing 2 months ago
@AegeanKing It was against customs and forbidden by law to make Devşirme forcibily! Youth who proved unsuccessful later HAD to be given back to their families where they come from by CONSENT. The vast majority knew what a great honor and opportunity Devşirme was. There was nothing like "stealing from their mothers arms", how pathetic. Conservative Greeks/Serbs successfully invented this tale to detract from their defeat. Also, Devşirme always maintained the contact to their families
zicco26 2 months ago
@zicco26 LOL!!! Devsirme as NOT by consent!! It was called a blood TAX for a reason. - "The conquered are slaves of the conquerors, to whom their goods, their women, and their children belong as lawful possession.." - Kara Khalil Chendereli, founder of the Janissaries
AegeanKing 2 months ago
@AegeanKing You`re an idiot AegeanPrincess. Çandarlı Kara Halil Paşa was an Ottoman pioneer in the 14th century! It was the time when Ottomans started to establish themselves on the Balkans. During these wars the Ottomans succeeded and prisoners of wars felt into the hands of Turks. The idea of Turkiciced Yeniçeri soldiers was derived from this context, but has less to do with the Devşirme policy in the following periods within the Ottoman Empire, which was strictly bound to rules.
zicco26 2 months ago
@zicco26 No, you are the idiot you illiterate nomad. The devshirme system was by force and your attempt to change history to make Turks seem more civilized is pathetic. Christians were not allowed to prosper. Christians were not allowed to ride horses, carry weapons, wear the color green, testify against a muslim and they were not allowed to read the Bible outside. Those are just some of the few ridiculous and oppressive policies of the mongolian ottomans.
AegeanKing 2 months ago
@AegeanKing Remember also the Karamanoğlu who were Oğuz and part of the Afşar tribe. Even your former premier Karamanlis has Turkish roots. If we are ever going to kick your asses again we won`t like it because a lot of Greeks have some Turkish blood, too.
zicco26 2 months ago
@zicco26 Are you on drugs? The region that you call Karaman is Laramanda. It is a Greek region filled with Greeks. Those turcophone Greeks you speak of WROTE with Greek letters. They were turkified Greeks under the Seljuks after manzikert. You don't know anything about these people. They have ORIGINAL Greek customs, Greek writings and Orthodox religion. Only the language was Turkish because they were isolated from the Byzantine Empire after 1071. There is no Turkish blood in Greeks.
AegeanKing 2 months ago
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@AegeanKing Devşirme system was also an attempt to give orthodox people the possibility to come on the right side and even to catch important positions in the Empire. How many other victors showed this goodwill to the defeated? Devşirme still used to stay in contact with their families. After being successfully Turkiciced and getting true Ottoman Muslims they also favorably served their hometowns like Sinan or Mehmet Sokollu did. Not all, but Ortho-Dogs like you love to defame them.
zicco26 2 months ago
@AegeanKing On the other hand, you have also all these Turks in Greece who had to convert to Orthodoxy if they wanted to avoid torture and death during your "revolution". This is something you don`t like to mention. When Ottomans expanded their Empire and conquered, they granted also you and Jews to live. The Greek society was even making profits. When you "revolted" and gained sovereignty in the 19th century, we experienced ONLY torture, death or conversion! This is your tolerance!
zicco26 2 months ago
@zicco26 There is no evidence of forced conversion in the Morea. Massacre, yes. Forced conversions, absolutely not. In fact, Kolokotronis tried to get the "Turks" who were really Greek and Albanian Speaking Muslims, to join in the revolution. There is no doubt that massacres happened during the revolution. But you are being intellectually dishonest and a liar by claiming forced conversions during the revolution.
AegeanKing 2 months ago
@AegeanKing There are plenty sources of evidence that Turks also were converted to Orthodoxy, as well as European and especially Ottoman! People like Mehmet Mâcid experienced and seized French documents about it. British historians affirmed it too. All Ottoman officials knew about it and not just in 1821, also later when Greeks gained more sovereignty. We can see that this happened from time to time until 1912. However, the majority was tortured and brutally murdered of course.
zicco26 2 months ago
@zicco26 This is false. There were no Turks in the Morea that were forcefully converted to Orthodoxy. None of the Klepht leaders ever did such a thing. Stop your lies and propaganda. There were massacres but there were no forced conversions in the Morea.
AegeanKing 2 months ago
@AegeanKing Kolokotronis and the other gay activists indeed tried to make Turks also "to join the revolution", in their own specific way. Even Greeks were determined to torture and massacre all Turkish civilians, conversions were seen also to enhance your movement at least. Plenty of Turks lived in other parts of Greece, too. Later, they were not all massacred but converted also. And the Tuks there didn`t get the opportunity to leave to a home country like the pontic greeks got!
zicco26 2 months ago
@zicco26 In fact, the forced conversion was done by the Turks on the Greeks by raising taxes so high on the dhimmi that weak minded people converted to escape persecution and taxes.
AegeanKing 2 months ago
@AegeanKing Taxes were imposed, but they had to take care that these taxes never made them suffer! Also Christians didn`t joined the army. This was part of the laws. Besides in wars, Christians HAD to be left untouched. Within the Ott. Empire, Jews AND Chistians were able to continue and even prosper. Could you have shown this generosity too? It was more the glory of Ottomans that induced to convert! Also, Balkans became an important trading place under the Ott. for the first time.
zicco26 2 months ago
@zicco26 In fact, the Greek word for Devshirme is "παιδομάζωμα" which literally means "The gathering of Children" . Greeks and Bulgarians used to disfigure their sons on purpose so they would not be taken. You obviously do not know the first thing about the Devshirme system. Mimar Sinan was TAKEN forcibly from his CHRISTIAN parents and FORCED to convert to Islam. I can give HUNDREDS of examples of this practice.
AegeanKing 2 months ago
@AegeanKing Of course Turks accepted also other people into their society. Turks mastered warfare as well as diplomacy and acceptance. How many other nations were like that? Besides the majority of the Turkish titular nation we have also Laz, Circassian, Kurdish and Pomak etc. origins and also intermarriages, this is an enrichment but everyone is today equally accepted as a Turk. In public affairs every member of the state is treated equally as a Turk. The same like in Russia, too.
zicco26 2 months ago
@zicco26 Also, before you say anything about those Greeks from Cappadocia or Karaman as you call it, know that they are Greeks and not Turks. The fact that they had Greek customs and wrote in the Greek alphabet is proof of this even though their language underwent turkification. Plus, history attests to it since we know that Greeks have been living in that area for thousands of years.
AegeanKing 2 months ago
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@zicco26 In fact, during the Greek revolution, both of the Ottoman governor/Generals who were defeated were of Albanian Descent Dramat Ali Pasha and his cousin from Egypt Ibrahim Pasha, son of the Albanian governor of Egypt, Muhammad Ali.
AegeanKing 2 months ago
@zicco26 Even in Iran today you have nomadic turks. That is your way of life. Nomadic like wild animals
AegeanKing 2 months ago
@sikilmisf1907 Greek population has only 14 million because of the FORCED conversions and killings of the Turks. How many Greek children were stolen and turned into Turks by Devshirme? How many Greeks in anatolia converted to Islam to escape high taxes and persecution? Do you know what the Hellenistic age is? The entire land of Anatolia was speaking Greek. Google it and stop being an idiot mongolian.
AegeanKing 2 months ago
@AegeanKing I should fuck your brain AegeanPrincess, how dare you call us not Turks?! Do you know the Oğuz Turks populazing whole Anatolia around a thousand years ago? Yes, remember that name because they were the ones who smashed your piggy Byzantine army. The Turkic world was (and is) very widespread and had numerous clans and tribes, thus making them very manifold. Oğuz were a very large one who moved steadily westwards from Central Asia, the name TURKiye refers to that idiot!....
zicco26 2 months ago
@AegeanKing The Oğuz TURKICIZED Anatolia. If you look at the unique and adorable Turkish culture you can see how Turks perfected their authenticy with a rich conglomeration! Turkish culture is authentic AND eclectic. Later the Ottomans Barbarossa and Sinan were Turkicized Devşirme and devşirme had to be done by CONSENT. And speaking about Greeks in Turkey: look how many Turks were killed or had to CONVERT to ORTHODOXY after greeks took the opportunity and made their cheap revolution.
zicco26 2 months ago
@zicco26 By the way, the Ottoman way of Diplomacy was adopted from the Byzantines. Plus, Ottoman Dragomans were basically all Greek.
AegeanKing 2 months ago
@zicco26 Devshirme was done by consent?? LOL!!! Oh yea? Is that why the father of Mehmed Sokollu Pasha offered gold to Mehmed bey, they man in charge of devshirme, to return him? You are telling lies. Devshirme was NOT by consent and the fact that you would even suggest such a thing shows how little of your own history you actually know. Also, you call our revolution cheap, but you LOST almost every land battle even though you outnumbered us by more than 5 to 1.
AegeanKing 2 months ago
TURKS GO BACK TO MONGOLIA , AHAHAHAH
TheRevenge00 2 months ago
@sikilmisf1907 Trapezuntas means table top. It is the name given to the Plateaus of Trabzon. Pontos does not mean Persian idiot. Pontos is a Greek word that means "sea". Read HOMER! Read the ancient Greek historian Herodotus. Greeks have lived in the black sea for thousands of years. Do you know what the Hellenistic age is idiot? Turks are from Asia go back to ASIA MONGOLIAN!!!
AegeanKing 2 months ago
@sikilmisf1907 Idiot! Greek have been living there for thousands of years! Read Homer! The original name of Trabzon is TRAPEZUNTAS. This is the original name. You are from Asia! Go back to Asia!! RUM is GREEK!!
AegeanKing 2 months ago
Long live orthodox Pontos Black Sea
tutti776 2 months ago
@sikilmisf1907 No. I did not say because Mithradates was Greek, that makes Trabzon Greek. Trabzon is Greek because the people who lived there were Greek. Trabzon is a GREEK WORD. Pontos is a GREEK word. Turks are from asia. Trabzon is for the GREEKS!!! You are a brainwashed idiot. TRABZON IS A GREEK WORD BECAUSE GREEK PEOPLE LIVED THERE!!!
AegeanKing 2 months ago
@sikilmisf1907 Mithradates IV was Greek and Persian. He is related to Antigonus I Monophthalmus who was a general of Alexander the Greats. The Population was Greek. Trabzon is a Greek name. Pontos is a Greek name.
AegeanKing 2 months ago
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aggnall 2 months ago
Merhabalar,Trabzonlular Turk yok Rum yok Laz tartismasi cok uzun ve genis bir konudur ve Tarih bilgisi olmayanlarin yapmis oldugu sacma bir tartismadir.Trabzonlu bir Kipcak ve Cepni,Cecen kani tasiyan biri olarak ne fark eder RUM deyin bana;ben ELHAMDULILLAH muslumanin benim kimligim bu yoksa Nijeryali deseniz ne yazar ki! Irkcilik DNA cilik inancsiz insanlarin pesinde kostugu 19,20,21 ....yuzyillarin en buyuk hastaligidir.Saygilar selamlar...
AlazliMula61 2 months ago
FARNACHE...SENİN ANANI TRABZONLU SİKTİKİ GÖTÜNDE ZORUN ÇOK....AMINA KODUMUN PONTUS PİÇİ...
blueeyes967967 2 months ago
@blueeyes967967 xaxaxa,, trabzonlular turk degil, anlamadıgınız ??!!,,,trabzonlular turklari sikeler,, fuck you turk mongoloid race.. sizin kultur yoktur piclar.. diyojen sinope....... strabon amasia... Mitridat Ktistes,,,,,, Pontus Cumhuriyeti ++++
Farnache 2 months ago
@AegeanKing i shall fuck ur brain!! moron! :D its none of ur business
ataturkisTurk 2 months ago
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ataturkisTurk 2 months ago
trabzone is lazistan and lazistan is kolxistan
xecera 3 months ago
@xecera Trabzon is a Greek word idiot. Fuck off to the Caucus!
AegeanKing 2 months ago
@AegeanKing fuack off you. you greek homosexual.soon we will get back our lands after kurdistan will free.
xecera 2 months ago
ULAN BU VİDEOYI HAZIRLYANIINDA SÖYLEYENİNDE AMK..
berkan167 3 months ago
TRABZON TÜRK OĞLU TÜRK'TÜR...BOŞUNA ÇABALAR BUNLAR...
blueeyes967967 3 months ago
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Farnache 3 months ago
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@blueeyes967967 la sen pic, orospu cocugi,, trapezounda pontusdir pontus kalacak..turkiye olamas,, biz antic yilarinda trapezounda yasamistik,, siz tyurk-mongolistndan geldiz barbar okkupasion yaptis bizim topraklarimizda...you turkish idiots,,you dont have country ok?! anladin??
Farnache 3 months ago
ZITO O PONTOS
nikos390 3 months ago
proud to be Turk.
Tonya/trabzon
TÜRKİYE
gtii61 3 months ago
@gtii61 there is nothing Turk here
ararat123457 3 months ago
Προσευχή!!.. ^
CASIUSGELAEI 4 months ago in playlist Liked
Arkadaşım trabzon pontus diye bi devlet yok tarihte trabzon imp. var bilmiyorsan bi zahmet tarihi kitaplara bak yunanistana gönderilen hiristiyinlar türk asılıydı, karadenizin konuşmasındaki farklılık kardenizde kıpcak ve cepni türklerinin ağızlarını birleşmesidir kardenizin yüzde 80ni cepni yüzde 20 si kıpcak türküdür, sene tevsiyem o pontusunuda alyunanistana git bizide fazla rahatsız etme .Karadeniz osmanlıdan öncede türktü şimdide türk kalın kafana sok.
KipcakReisi08 4 months ago
I am greek with origin from Pontus and I always remember my grandfather telling that when he was living in Santa, he had very good relationship with the Turks, they were friends.Later when we were for some years in Germany our best friends were Turks.There is no bad religion, bad nationality or bad country. There are bad people and the bad people can be Greek, Turkish, British, American bla bla bla. Don t let the people of finance control your mind...All the bright minds free yourself...
pamoirid 4 months ago 2
trakya is turkish ne mutlu türküm diyene
adanamhp 5 months ago
Freedom for 200 000 Turks of Western Thrace !!!!!
DutchTurkish 5 months ago
@DutchTurkish Go fuck yourself mongolian. Turks belong in Asia. Everything you have is built by Greeks. All the cities in Thrace are built by Greeks. Bursa, Edirne, Izmir, Efes, Bodrum, Trabzon , etc. ALL built by Greeks. Turks build NOTHING. Turks belong in ASIA!!!!
AegeanKing 4 months ago 2
Well, sounds very good. Doesn´t matter which language. Don´t listen to the guys who like putting bad words in their mouth. We say: Bad words belong to their Owners and Speakers. We have a common history. We have been connected for a long time and we still do feel the same. You have also the right to call this place your home like they do. That´s why i like this kind of music
VatoLoco444 5 months ago
pontos devleti ile Trabzonun ne bağlantısı var? emperyalistlerin oyununu güzel oynuyorsunuz..
darkeyedboy61 5 months ago
Bu nasıl video Lan Bende trabzonluyum. Trabzonda hiç rum görmedim amk Adam bide pontos yazmış pontosunu sikiyim amına koduklarım.
Kanım Türk
Özüm Türk
Ben aslan gibi karadeniz delikanlısıyım..
Trabzanli61 5 months ago
Uploaded by a Greek from Turkey ..,
3choBlaster 8 months ago
topal osman nasıl sikmiş analarınızı kızlarınızı amına kodumun kancıkları hepinizden nefret ediyoruz
belacan1907 8 months ago
lan rumlar ananızı sikeriz ulan köpekler
belacan1907 8 months ago
Pontios Kai me enan omat.....
eorptol 9 months ago
Ela Kaliontzidis :) Karadenizli olupta Turk milliyetciligi yapanlar biraz "kopilia" dir bence.
Timurbey90 9 months ago
dı vi derida çı qas laz i dev bıxuyn hene ez dı kuzi diya wananım ex dı devi jına bave wenim ez dı jına wenım de hunji bıxunın wi yaziyamın lazi qunek jıni lazan hemu qunekin em lı stenboli bı kuzi jıni lazan idaredıkın
graziyboy 9 months ago
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Hallo, An alle Pontos oder Laso volk.
In Schwarzmeer leben GR Volk (ROMIOS), Türken sieht Moggolisch Aus.Alle Andere ist kurden und armenien.DU LASO hast 1e europaisch gesicht 2e XORON=XOROS GR=DANCE.So enlich ist CRETA! Die Türken wissen die Warheit!Das Wegen TR militar drückt immer ihre politik.PONTOS ist ein GR bundesland mit eigene sprache so enlich wie GR. Beispiel in Deutscland (NRW-BAYER).MACH AUGEN AUF UND KUCKEN SIE BITTE IN IHRE LAND DAS ERDE IST VOLL ARCHAIOLOGISCH VON IHRE VOLKS!!
Androgreek 9 months ago
trabzonlular kadar milliyetci halk görmedim aq lazlari bütün trabzonlular irkci,laz ve rum pontoslaridir
PsychoJohnCena 10 months ago
piçler bizi rum mu sandınız lan biz türküz türk
azrailfatih1651 10 months ago
Ben milliyetciyim ve kolumda ne mutlu turkum diyene dovmem var ama bazi insanlar milliyetciligin bokunu cikariyor yavu bre adam kurtun da laz in da arnavutun da farkli dil i ve kulturu var bu TURKIYEMIZ ICIN ZENGINLIKDIR, kabul edemeyenler sakat dir kafadan ha turkiye boleceyiz dersalar o zaman sovmeye bongurmaye baslayabilirsiniz, ama yok muzik de turk sozleri yok bu da ne derseniz sapittiniz artik YETER ulkemizi bolecek bir sey var ise o da asiri milliyetcilik dir.
britturk123 10 months ago
Ντο ρωμαϊκα κανεις κι καλατσεβ αδακα???
greek300 10 months ago
sikerim lan yunan isimlerini , kürtlerlen ugrasdik bi siz eksiktiniz oturun yerinize yoksa sira size gelir ibneler , türk kimligi begenmeyen siktir olur gider bu topraklar bizim rüyanizda bile göz dikmeyin yoksa sizi öyle bir hale getiririz anneniz bile tanimaz tabuta bakinca
ShadowOfOttomans 11 months ago
malesef milliyetçilik bu topraklardan binlerce yıllık kültürlerin silinmesine yol actı. Sonuctada Recep İvedik ortaya çıktı :(
mataramasuko100 1 year ago
Lazistan Diye Birsey Yok! Olmadi! Olmayacak! Laz´iz ama Bu Demek Olmuyor Ki Türk Degiliz. Ve Türkiyeyi Bölmek Isteyen Her Serefsizlere Karsiyiz. Bu Yunan olsun, Kürt Olsun , Amerikali Olsun , Avrupali Olsun, Israil´li olsun.Türkiyeyi Sizin Gibilerine Böldürmeyiz. Saaten Gücenüz Yetmez Bizi Bölmeye. Almanyada Yasiyorum. Trabzonluyum Ve Cok Trabzonlu Arkadaslarim Var. Tanidigim Hepsinin Türkiyeye Cani Feda. Lazistan Lafini Uydurana Sokayim. Sehitler Ölmez , Vatan Bölünmez. Ve Trabzon Türkiyedir!
DerPateAus89 1 year ago
@DerPateAus89
-Lazistan Diye Birsey Yok!-
Lazistan yok ama Lazona oldu degildi simdi ama olacak.
Yasasin Lazistan skani turki nana gikhudo lol )))
digmeli 7 months ago
AYIK OLUN TRABZONUN ''T''si TÜRKİYENİN ''T'' sidir !
jollyjoker61 1 year ago
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graw21 1 year ago
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graw21 1 year ago
@graw21 VALLAHA AYIP SANA BIRDE TRBZONLUYUM DERSIN BIRDE LAZIM MI DERSIN? ONCE INSAN OLMAYI OGREN KENDINE HORMET EDIP SAYGILAMANI OGREN SONRADA GIT BIR DNA TESTI YAP OZAMANDAN SONRA DA SURATIN VARSA GERI GEL YINE DE KONUS !!!TARIHTEN HIC HABERIN YOK BEYNIN YIKANMIS BIR ADAMSIN ISTE VE BU MILLETLERE FITIL KOYAN ICINDE ZEHIR OLA NEFRET EDEN KOTULUGUNDEN KAHIR EDEN BIRI VARSA O DA SENSIN YAZIKLAR OLSUN AYIP GUNAH
TRELLOTAXI69 1 year ago
bir gercek var dir, tek "soy" olarak anadoluya göc eden büyük anlamda tek "irk" türklerdir, kipchak türklerinden tutun, khazar türklerine kadar karadeniz son 1000 yil türk soylarinin ana yurdudur. propaganda bir kenara, bu gercegi kimse inkar edemez.
en komigi, dün bir filime baktim antonio banderasin filmi: 13inci savasci - orda arabistandan karadenize göc ediyor, ve tek tek, oguzlarin, hazarlarin, tatarlarin ortamindan bas ediyor.
herkese tavsiye ederim, banderasin o filmini ! :)
KosovaTurk 1 year ago 4
hem bu arada, burda sacma sapan konusan lavuklar, yok karadenizin milleti, cepni türklerin boyutunden gelir, yok bizansin rumlasmis hetitlerinden, yok yuncaya asimile olmus kavkasya milleti, bilmem ne.
gercek bir vardir, yunanlar dilini ve dinini hic bir zaman göc akimiyla dagitmamistir, "hellenism" bir kültür ve din" anlamidir, zamaninda hindistana kadar yunan dinini ve kültürüne sahip olan insanlar vardir, bunlarin hepsi "YUNAN" mi ? ulan, ne sacma cahil millet bizim millet.
KosovaTurk 1 year ago 3
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Grekim avat Pontos Unan mutlu miletiim.Sizin gibi Mongol dagilim Sizlarin milati savas sirasinda Uruslar cok sikmislar Tamerlanda sikmis//Sizin antik Milatiz ek nada ola bilir//Mongolarin sikindan sonra olmussunuz Oguz sonra Selguk sonra Osmanlar sindida 1920ylinda Turk oldunuz..Siz bastartsiniz milatsiz..Ha ha ha Γαμοτι ζωησας////
EvksinosPontos 1 year ago
Trapezus Kerasus του και μια ολόκληρη επαρχία
28GiReSuNTrabzon61 1 year ago
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Deste afto Sto youtube,na dite to ti esti Pontios: Artemisia of Halicarnassus
Nikiforos2002 1 year ago
emmorfa romeika tragodias..
lelevo ton ponton
saltadoros08 1 year ago
Bu videonun sahibine katiliyorum. Türkiye Cumhuriyetinde okadar millet yasiyor. Ve kökleri ayri bi yerlere daayaniyor. Kimse benim vatanimin zopraklarindaki insanimi disliyamaz... Hepimiz bi bayrak altinda yasiyoruz.... Özellikle karadenizde yasayan rum laz hic farketmez. Özelikle bunlar kardadenizdeki insanlar bi cocugumuzdan Türk. Karadeniz insanini savundugum gibi dogudaki insanlari savunamam ama. Bunuda inkar edememem..
nesly09 1 year ago
Kafataşçılar evlerinde otursun. Onlar müzik değil yabani hayvan höykürmesi dinlesin. İnsanlığın ortak değeri olan ve bu topraklarda yıllarca çalıp söylenen bu melodileri de ağızlarına almasınlar. Allah aptal insanlara yemek yemek için ağız verdi, okadar.
lancefter 1 year ago
the lyrics are Greek. Beautiful lyrics!
smffey 1 year ago 3
Türkiyede 250.000 bin kadar laz yasiyor
siz nasil bütün karadenizliler laz yapiorsunuz anlamiyorum...
hele Trabzonlulara nasil laz diyorsunuz orasininda anlamis degilim
Trabzon imparatorlugu yikildiginda osmanli Trabzona yaklasik 200.000 Türkmen yerlestirmis
tarihi okuyun burda bol keseden atmayin..
muratxxcCc 1 year ago 3
ayirt edemiyorlar demek istedim
61abzon 1 year ago
bazilari laz ve rum ayrimi yapamiyor nedense bu muzik rumca lazlar gürcü asillidir :)
61abzon 1 year ago
TURKIYE TURKUNDUR TURKUN KALACAK !!!!!
TURKIYE DE TURKCE KONUSULUR< NE LAZCA NE KURTCE NE ARAPCA, OZBEOZ TURKCE.
RIZE DEN SELAMLAR !
BozkurtSoylu53 1 year ago
karadeniz ilelebet Türk vatanıdır.. aksini planlayanın planı gitmez !!!!!!!!1
52akkusordu 1 year ago
trabzon bunun neresinde
apichali 1 year ago
cok güzel bir müzik belki 50 defa dinlemisimdir
UltraGSMerttcanPolat 1 year ago
@MrsSeyda sana ne oluyo lan yavsakkkk
karamehmet4040 1 year ago
ey gidi memleketim..sanki kemence o daglara yansiyor...mükemmel yorum ...mükemmel
rahmanyasin 1 year ago
ey gidi memleketim..sanki kemence o daglara yansiyor...mükemmel yorum ...mükemmel
rahmanyasin 1 year ago
@MrsSeyda Sen ne konusuyorsun, götün kalkmis sanki
Lazlarin kurtulus savasindaki katkisini biliyormusun öyle salaksalak konusma cildirtma adami, Lazlar öyle senin bildigin hainler gibi degildir
DCGShok 1 year ago
tamam biz acıgız her yola gelsinlerr yasasınlar bende ısterım ama bariş içinde..! ama onlardan kımse kalmadı sımdı ..!! gerı donmek kım ısterkı ..! belkıde bızler sızın akrabalarınızız gelsınlerr ama unutma bu MEMLEKETTE GOZU OLANIN GOZU CIKAR ...!!! 61
williamxcyprus 1 year ago
@delidir61 Allaha şukur ki sen laz değilsin :)
zengingok 1 year ago
kürtlerrun ammına koayyim
hendrixxj 1 year ago
Kendini bilmezler kendinize gelin istersen kürtüm lazım de ama Türkiye ye her zaman sahip çıkmalısın saygı duymalısın.her düşünceye saygımız var fakat düşünceler samimi ve gerçekçi olmalıdır.CcC
ASPERON29 1 year ago
dunyanin en zengin ulkesi turkiye turku lazi cerkezi kurdu rumu ile tam bir sentez beyley bu uklede calisan devletine vergi veren herkes kardes bir birimizden nefret etmeyi birakalim, hepimiz turkiyenin insaniyiz ve turkiyeyi SEVIYORUZ
toyganyilmaz 1 year ago
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graw21 1 year ago 14
@graw21 VALLAHA AYIP SANA BIRDE TRBZONLUYUM DERSIN BIRDE LAZIM MI DERSIN? ONCE INSAN OLMAYI OGREN KENDINE HORMET EDIP SAYGILAMANI OGREN SONRADA GIT BIR DNA TESTI YAP OZAMANDAN SONRA DA SURATIN VARSA GERI GEL YINE DE KONUS !!!TARIHTEN HIC HABERIN YOK BEYNIN YIKANMIS BIR ADAMSIN ISTE VE BU MILLETLERE FITIL KOYAN ICINDE ZEHIR OLA NEFRET EDEN KOTULUGUNDEN KAHIR EDEN BIRI VARSA O DA SENSIN
TRELLOTAXI69 1 year ago
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graw21 1 year ago
SANA VE SENIN GIBILERE GECMIS OLSUN SENIN GIBI MISKINLERBIZIM DOGUP BUYUDUGUMUZ MEMLEKETTEN MILLETEN ASLA AYIRAMAZ!
TRELLOTAXI69 1 year ago
LAZ USAKLARI EN KOYU TÜRKLERDIR !!! cCc !!! BOZKURT LAZOGLI !!! VATANIMIZ icin sehit oluruz "" lazistan mazistan"" YOK ISTEMIYORUZ BIZIM GÖZ GIBI VATANIMIZ VAR TÜRKIYE """ 61 """
lavidaloca61 1 year ago 4
dynamokurdish
hadi yunanistani anladimda .. kurdistan derken ?? canin istedi qaliba ahahhaha .. hem lazlarda türkdür kürt deqil qit bu yorumu baska yerde yap !
aFY10LuKiiZzCcC 1 year ago 3
@delidir61 sen aslini neden inkar ediyorsun! adam Lazca söylüyor! buda bir allahin dilidir! Her dil allahin bir ayeti dir!! inkar adan, bütün kayinati inkar etmis gibi olur!
AlbistanMeledi44 1 year ago
@AlbistanMeledi44 adam lazca mi soyluyor? hehehe adam rumca soyluyor. farki ogrenin oyle konusun ahhh ah
aslizz 1 year ago
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kemence horon yunan oyunudur
kürdistan yunanistan kardes mogol picleri kalles
DynamoKurdish 1 year ago
dogu karadenizde bir avuc pontuslu kalmis, birakin herkes istedigi gibi inancini, dilini, kültürünü yasasin bu herkesin dogal hakkidir. sayg.
gideross 2 years ago
I PATRIDA MAS PONTOS///////
SpartakWelikiy 2 years ago 4
yeriim senii trabzonum
Freaqii29 2 years ago
@delidir61 lazlık mazlık yok diyorsun iyi, Trabzonluyum diyorsun oda iyi, Türküm diyorsun oda çok iyi, Müslümanım diyorsun oda çok çok iyi, iyi olmayan bişe var '' Allah '' yazmasını bilmiyorsun ve '' Allah '' tek yazılır bitişiğinde harf, ek, olmaz. sevgi ve selamlarımla.
ALMiNA6167 2 years ago
agapo se Ponto m!!!!!!!
na lelevo se riza m!!!!
Taniola 2 years ago 2
bizi bazılarıyla karıştırmayın arkadaşlar. Hayaller peşinde değil gerçeklerin peşindeyiz. Bakın bazı kişiler yaşasın bilmem ne, var olsun bilmem ne, nidaları atıyorlar. Yazık. Yazık ki neyin yaşadığını, neyin var olduğunu görmüyorlar. işte gerçek ; TÜRKİYE yaşıyor ve TÜRKİYE var. varmı bunun ötesi berisi.
ALMiNA6167 2 years ago
bana bilmem ne sin diye soran arkadaşlara cevabımdır.
ben LAZ asıllı => TÜRK üm.
ALMiNA6167 2 years ago 2
@ALMiNA6167 evet koc sen laz asilli türksün ne mutlu sana ne mutlu türküm diyene.
erzurumoltu25 1 year ago
insan a insan oldugundan oturu saygi vardir milliyeti din i hic onemli d egil onemli olan mertligi durustlugu ve serefidir oli imasthe adelfii giasouuu oli mas)
dagaslani 2 years ago
POLI OREWN ADELFE RUM ..
karanickolas 2 years ago
bir daha da ne türk kelimesini ağzına al ne de rum...çünkü insanlığın bu iki değeri senin ağzına yakışmıyor.sen bol bol kürtleri ve kürdistanını an.sana bu kadar uzun bir cevap dahi vermeyecektim fakat insansın.insan oldugun için değer buldum ve sana cevap verdim.umarım ne demek istediğimi anlamışsındır...hoşçakal...
kaliontzidis 2 years ago 20
yorum yaptığını zannediyorsun lakin dünyadan bi habersin.şuan milliyetçiliği sen mi yoksa ben mi yapıyorum?bir düşün değerli dostum demokrasiden insan haklarından bahsedilerek ırk milliyetçiliğine mikro milliyetçiliğe itilen benmiyim sen misin acaba?dedelerimin kemikleri sızlıyor lakin sizler gibisi bu vatanın güzelliklerini yok ettiği için sızlıyor.ben türkiyeliyim,insanım ve aslım da rum.ben türkiyeliyim ve de türküm nitekim....
kaliontzidis 2 years ago 8
@kaliontzidis cok guzel bır yorum ceske herkes böyle dusunse .....bu ulkenın gelecegı barış ve huzur olmalı ....herkes cesıtlıklerıyle butun olmalı ...
tegmen1975 1 year ago
@kaliontzidis
Su senin yazini okuyunca ne kadar sevindim, sizin gibi insanlarda var, Ben Turkum ama insan oldukdan sonra, bu vatan hepimizin, Boluculugun her turlusune lanet olsun.
Kareysarli 1 year ago 2
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siktir lan türkler senin sülalenin soyunu kuruttu lan kaprak adamlar sizlerin kemence horonunu alip türk diye millete yutturdular sen ise bana burda vatan müdafasindan bahsediyorsun sülalenin atalarinin kemikleri sizliyor simdi
yasasin PKK yasasin Kurdistan
Kürt milleti hic bir zaman bas egmez
KurdeLibanon47 2 years ago
senin ananıda türkler sikicekj az kaldı orospunun oğlu
hendrixxj 2 years ago
Senin PKK nada sana koydumun cocugu
sizin kökünüzü kurutacagiz oruspu cocugu
peolope 2 years ago
Yediği tabağa sıçmak sizin için bir şereftir. :) Biz yemek yediğimiz eli yüceltiriz. Ne şerefsizler bizide isyan etmeye zorladı ama nafile. sende o koca götünü daha fazla oynatma, burda boklu göt sikicek adam yok.
Arhancelolu 2 years ago
kürt milleti hic bir zaman bas egmez diyorsun. kürtler yasam boyunca hep bas egmistir. neden mi, cünkü okadar yillar asirlar imparatorlar gecti bi devlet kuramadiniz. gelen gecen devlet kurdu. hatta luxemburg gibi 1 milyon nufusu olmayan millet bile devlet kurdu. kiskanclinizdan ve cahillinizden kuramadiniz! kim boyun egmez biliyormusun. TÜRKLER BOYUN EGMEZ !!! tarih okursan anlarsin !! tabi okuma yazman varsa, magradan cikmadiginiz icin bilmiyorsundur belki ;)
DerAtemzug 2 years ago
kurt milleti hic bir zaman bas egmez yazmissin ,hic basi dik gezdilermi lan gerizekali
avrupalibey 2 years ago 2
@KurdeLibanon47 la olm gavat kürtleri adam yerine koyan yok. siktir git şurdan. Amq daha dün amerikan bombardımanı fırsat ırakta yıllarca kardeş yasadınız ınsanlara sıktınız orospu oğlu orospunun doğurdukları. Baş eğmezmişmişler sikimin kırma kolları.
realwarvideos 1 year ago
Karadeniz(Pontos) rumları Yunanistan'daki adalardan göç edenlerle ve 4. haçlı seferinde istanbuldan bu bölgeye kaçan insanlardan oluşmuştur.Bölgeye ilk rum m.ö. 400-500 yılları öncesinde keşfedilip Yunanistan'a geri dönmüştür.Karadenizin kuzeyi ''Kırım-Kafkasya'' üzerinden gelinmiştir bu bölgeye.Güçlü ''Pers(İran)'' ordusuyla savaşmaktansa evlilik ilişkisiyle bağlanmayı tercih edip Pontosun perslilerle akrabalık bağını oluşturmuşlardır.
kaliontzidis 2 years ago 2
Bu dil orijinal haliyle ''ROMEİKA''dır.Pontoslular bu dile ''PONTİAKA'' derler.Rome(Roma)ika(-ca,-ce) olarak kelime yapısı oluşmuştur.Türkler ise ''RUMCA'' derler.Lakin Bizans rumcasıyla biraz farklılıklar gösterir.Nitekim dezenformasyona tabi tutulmuş ve nispeten asimile olmuştur...
kaliontzidis 2 years ago
Byzantine Lyra
nickpafras 2 years ago
ela kali eline saglik cok güzel manzaralar !
wwwmobilstarde 2 years ago
anladım
MrBordomavi 2 years ago
aslen ama ben türkiyeliyim.hiç kimse bu vatanın bölünmezliğini gündeme bile getiremez.kültürel faaliyetler insanın özüdür.ben buyum ve değişemem.ailem 60 küsür yıldır istanbuldalar ben de istanbul doğumluyum.lakin vatana karşı yapılacak karşı harekette bu tehlikelere karşı müdaafada en ön saflarda olmaktan büyük haz duyarım.videolarımı büük bir sabırlar izleyen,dinleyen herkese sonsuz teşekkürlerimi bir borç bilirim.saygılar....
kaliontzidis 2 years ago 2
iste senin gíbiler bu vatanin gercek evlatlaridir!
Doguhan2008 2 years ago 2
kalionzidiz
sen rummusun
MrBordomavi 2 years ago
Su karadeniz ne guzel bir yer.... ve ne mutlu bize ki orda lazlar gibi bir toplulugumuz var...
LAZLAR basimizin tacidir ve bu vatanin bolunmez bir parcasizid!
Caliskanlik, durustluk, insaniyet ve hosgoru gibi degerlerin tumune sahip olan bir halkimizdir!
Bazi kurtler gibi kalles ve serefsiz olanini alsa bulamazsin lazlar arasinda....Turkiyede her millet lazlari sever ve sevilmelerininde sebebi budur!
Ne mutlu Turkum diyene ve bu toprak parcasina VATAN diyene!
goru426 2 years ago
yürü be kim tutar seni valla cok güzel konusdun senin gibileri az
Bulutum52 2 years ago
ALMiNA6167 kardeşim sen rummusun anlayamadım ben :)
MrBordomavi 2 years ago
tamam aslimizi inkar etmiyoruz , edemeyiz ama sonucta unutmayin ki TÜRK vatandasiyiz. yok bilmemne zistan , bilmemne tos, bilmemne tas bilmemne toprak yok , tek bir sey var oda TÜRKiYE CUMHURiYETi. NE MUTLU TÜRKÜM DiYENE.... bitti....
ALMiNA6167 2 years ago
@ALMiNA6167 Sen varya sen, sen birtanesin...seninle ve yazdiginla gurur duyuyorum su an... helal olsun sana.