i am an american and i love grime music!!! i think the uk needs to stay true to it's self dont try to follow america, we both do hip hop and rap music but our flavors are completley diffrent from beats to rhyme structure! big ups to the uk and keep doing yer thang!
U.K dudes got BARS us americans dont listen to um b/c WE DONT HERE UM!!! im trying to get them bars on my trax @digiaddict,,,,,lets network across the pond. stay up u.k homies
grime IS a form of hip hop,,,,,whether you wanna admit it or not. you got an mc(hip hop) rapping(hip hop) over a beat. Its a brithish form of hip hop. are the m.cs not rapping???? c'mon now.....THAT BEING SAID,,,I FUX WITH THE GRIME and im in the south (U.S)
U.K artist hit me up so we can colab some U.k/U.s hard shyt
grime and UK hip hop are different forms of hip hop.. grime are people like p-money, D double E and JME. UK hip hop is artists like Jehst, Ramson Badbonez
@3G4ZA realistically, hip hop was spitting over a beat. grime has the concept of doing freestyles over beats. the beats are just quicker and about 140BPM.. technically yes, grime is a form of garage which evolved ten years ago, but the concept is the same really.. in london the uk hip hop and grime scenes are divided
i listen love hiphop i listen to german,french,americain,japanese,british hiphop. i appreciate grime is our thing. im not saying i dont like grime. i listen to lots of dubstep, garage an d&b still.and obviously boombap isnt just all laughs but it makes me feel high. just do your own thing whatevever it is?americia is a vast country so it will be hard for any artist to be heard over there. hiphop is a way, rap has an accent, music is art. peace
Alright People, im Joe AKA Quazzy B, Im from Reading berkshire UK, i make music, Fresh hiphop, at the moment i record in my make shift studio in the back room, but im saving money's to buy real studio time. i put together makeshift videos for my tracks, i got 3 tracks up and im looking for valuable feedback because thats where the future is....... so if you have a little time to check out a track i would have great appreciation. many thanks !!!
When the MC's from Saxon Sound came to NYC in the 80's, everybody "heard' something unique in their style, that they knew was not from Jamaica. If British artistes want to know how to maintain their authenticity, and tour America, maybe they should be seeking the advice of Tippa Irie.
My accent is a"hybrid," containing equal parts South London Cockney, Caribbean patios, and North Eastern African American Ebonics. When I first went to high school, no one could understand me. i have a deep voice, and everything I said sounded "mumbled," so I picked up the Ebonics to communicate. But, I never picked up a lot of African American slang. So, when I hear artistes from anywhere other than California saying "Fo shizzle," It makes me scratch my head.
Today, we see the influence of commercialized/stereotypical African-American culture everywhere. I live in Philadelphia, and would never wear a NY Yankees hat. I hate the Yankees. Yet, when I'm in Peckham, I see all these cats wearing Yankee hats. I love the Bronx, visit my family there all the time, but I'm not "from" the Bronx. I love Brooklyn, graduated from Brooklyn College, but I'm not "from" Brooklyn. Everybody knows me as the brother from London, even after living here for 30 years.
When was 16, I left London and moved to the States in 1981. When I came here, most people had no idea where I was from, until I open my mouth. You see, Black British youth had a distinct style back then. I was the only person wearing a Burberry trench, Farah slacks, Pringle jumper, Bally shoes in my High School. Both the Caribbean and the American kids would ask me about my clothes. I remember the girls loved the fact that my pants seams were stitched in. What has happened since those days?
I would say that Grime is a form of RAP music but it is not a form of hip-hop. hip hop is a culture & genre with rapping involved just like Grime and crunk music. Grime isnt a form of hiphop but it definitely has taken some influence from hiphop but production wise it was influenced by Uk garage & started off as a developed/more dark form of garage before the mc's came about.
To add to my previous comment. Grime was a reinvention of hip hop, but to say that current UK hip hop is 'American' is to ignore that artists are continuing to reinvent the music as their own!
Name one other genre where there was hatred for another country joined in?! There is no such thing as 'American Hip Hop', there is only Hip Hop and the ideals that it holds. If you're arguing for an anything else then you've missed the point! Genesis Elijah raises a fantastic point "Make the music you like. Listen to the music you like."! If you don't like the tunes coming from the UK then make your own. If you don't like some of it, ignore the shit you don't!
Grime isn't UK Hip Hop or Hip Hop in general. Grime was our Street Culture for years and obviously declined but if you look at it, Grime and Dubstep came from UK Garage which is British Dance Music. The American's Dance Music is basically Hip Hop, R'n'B and more, but if you know Hip Hop's history, it derived from Disco and that was blatantly a Worldwide dance scene.
@straydupshemzy Wow! You...went...iiiiiin lol. Nice to see another conscious guy on the Music tip, but you're wrong about 'Fix up look sharp' being Grime. That was early UK Rap and not Grime. Dizzee is and was versatile. If you watch/listen to the video of 'Fix up...' a Grime choons comes in.
America did influence Grime, hence hearing Hip Hop, Rap, House & Garage in the Music but you totally forgot two genres born in the UK which Grime emcees flowed too.
@Anekix Thanks but i didnt say it was GRIME haha i said, "My point is GRIME is not born from english dirt even fix up look sharp was a USA rock sample BIG BEAT"
@straydupshemzy That's 'Fix up....' though, like I said before, Dizzee was that guy but the choon 'Stop That' after the 'Fix up...' part in the video is pure Grime. Grime is fully an English sound with the fusion of Dark Garage, Rap, Dancehall and Jungle/D&B.
One genre comes from America, another from Jamaica and the rest is Homegrown.
And the reason why it's hard for UK rappers to break the US market is the same reason it's hard for Canadians, Australians, etc. First of all, breaking the US Hip Hop scene is hard for everyone even Americans, the US is very competitive just at the local city level you got rappers fighting for the top, lastly UK rappers aren't in the US market so in order to get into the US market you got to grind it out in the US like everybody else by dropping mixtapes, singles, albums, performing and touring.
I'm from the US, so I got to say DJ snips is correct in most of what he's saying. MC and rapper are the same thing over here, they're used interchangeably. However Y'all are wrong about toasting. Black culture in the US was not looking to Jamaica, Jamaican music wasn't even popular in the black community around that time, it was R&B/Soul and Funk. Rapping is a form of jive talk that's been part of black American culture for a long time. Muhammad ali was rapping.
@jimfox123sse Outkast were booed off stage at the 1994 source awards in NYC because at the time NYers were not happy about people from other regions taking awards that they felt they owned. Essentially they got booed cause they WERE southern not cause they SOUNDED southern. There first two albums are very NYC esq. Theyve said it themselves so theres not really much else to debate on this.
I dont normally like to comment of these vids but @iAmAyoDigital If u listen to the type of music Outkast came in the game making (so u would have to go back to 1994) they were rapping over sampled beats and breaks and have said on numerous occasions said there sound was more akin to NYC hip hop than the typical sounding southern records (ie, Not rapping over 808s and Synths) much like Scarface and the Ghetto Boys. So no, I doubt they would laugh in my face
JME does only grime and he made it, cmon guys grime has made it to germany,canada even some other countries europe. it's because most artist are trying to make paper and not music that why grime rappers and jumping on pop tunes. and grime is a fork of hip-hop but I do feel like it is make the unique.
@Covcentralent Sorry but Have you heard his "thuggish ruggish remix"? or "Side tracked"? or that one when hes like "Im JME, my names tattooed on the grime scene"... I GARANTEE YOU if you heard those 3 instrumentals u would say its rap. I bet if rick ross was on it u wouldnt say its a grime beat.
this is soo fucking ignorant. Grime is definitely not uk hip hop. Grime came from UK garage, Uk garage came from US garage and US garage came from Disco that's the only way Hip Hop and grime are related from Disco. UK Hip Hop is skinnyman, taskforce, rodney p, blak twang etc etc. None of the original grime MCs took inspiration from the US hip hop scene they took it from UK garage MCs who got their inspiration from jungle MCs who got theirs from acid house mcs who came from Disco also.
Dear DJ SNIPS... OutKast have never made New York sounding Hip Hop. You could NEVER tell 3 Stacks & Big Boi that they made New York sounding Hip Hop. They'd laugh at you!! Simple!!
I agree grime came out as an extension of hip hop for in the early days of grime its main influence was surrounded by hip hop but as grime has developed new artists have taken influence from legendary grime mc's and they have created their own distinctive sound that has also impacted people across the world I even listened to russian grime the other day so how is grime dying, however it is the sad truth that grime will never break the charts and be a commercial genre of music
......The UK. I know everything ain't Posh out there. As a matter of Fact, y'all got potty mouths lol!!! You can be very vile!!! I know you got HOODS OUT THERE TOO!!! See, not every American is ignorant :-). Also, YOU NEED TO UNBLOCK SOME OF YOU GUYS MATERIALS. I tried to watch Top Boy and it said I didn't have permission to watch it in my Country.
Personally I think more urban ppl from the US needs to inquire (enquire for the UK) about the Uk urban culture. The UK knows more about the US than we do about them. If more do, the Urban culture would be such a STRONG FORCE!!! I'm a BROOKLYN Sistah learning more about it. I say more because I'm not Oblivious about......
If the the Brits or any other European country wants to rock a BROOKLYN, NY LA, or any other Fitted or Snapbacks form the States, Go ahead!!! Continue!!! If the didn't love and embraced our urban culture, these American artist wouldn't make one Pound Sterling, Franc,or Euro!!!
There is nothing wrong with the Brits liking and embracing the AMERICAN SWAG. Specifically the NYC SWAG. I'm not being cocky but ain't no Swagga like a NYC SWAGGA!!! ITS IMPECCABLE!!! It never loses its touch. They way we talk, walk, our slang, everything!!! Its just something about it that make a lot of ppl gravitate towards it. And to me its a Beautiful thing!!!
It's funny how Brits are saying grime is dead and following yanks who are saying hip hop is dead. I guess in general Brits are followers, which is why I listen to people like Scorcher, who's embraced British "swag" more than the average. Replicate it and we'll have something fresh to shout about as a country
majority of londoners these days are gassed and need to dead the hype and hit reality..yeye true u myt have it hard but not as much as AMERICA. UK hiphop will never get the same reputition as American hiphop did EVER cos its true we have lost our identity and its sad when i walk around london and im seeing dumb rich kids acting like theyre on their GRIND LMAO trying to act like a fake 50 cent and on the TAYLOR GANG hype when they could be promoting and supporting the UK instead of breddin yanks
The only reason why u feel grime is dying is cos brit niggas are too busy tryna overly impress Americans. I notice how yall wanna rock brooklyn hats, NY, LA wen u got the UK fitted hats n cloths too..How u talk about ur hood n be rockin harlem at the back yo shirts or trying to put on fake accent..yall got good music but have no identity stop stealin our swag or trying to be on the AMERICAN WAVE LOL come wit something more fresh then maybe we look at you and your music scene more serious
@jimfox123sse I'm sorry, but not even. I love Danny Brown and grime. Danny Brown's music is more avant garde and there is no unifying sound like dancehall for grime. His ryhme pattern varies on nearly every song as well so I can't say it's the speed either. But I do think alot of americans like myself can appreciate what the uk is doing.
Not really as the identity was heavily influenced by Jamaican(dancehall) and American(Hiphop) artist with the slanguage we use on a daily basis, some grime artists speak in a jamaican accent but no one calls them a Jafaican, if someone tweeks their british accent to sound american on a few words to make the bar flow i aint got a problem with it
Grimes dead cause its all just hype talk which is 100% gas and doesnt have to be true, which is why rich white kids sit there and love of it.. Rap, however.. more time the guys are talkin real!! an REAL people can relate..
realistically, it's the accent & lifestyle debate, as long as what man are chatting about is true to themselves and the accents are their own then i dont see a problem with making american style hip hop...
I'm an American who listen to UK Hip/ Rap/ Grime and when I'm listening to it. I don't want to be listening to fake accents. I'm not listening US Hip Hop or Rap! I'm listening to Grime so give people that and don't be fake about. UK urban artist need to realize they are so one of a kind and the culture of UK urban music for them to try and emulate US Hip Hop and Rap. Once again, great topic! DJ Snips goes ham on his responses. Got to love it!
I'm like my favorite rapper and she just paused the conversation and said "No, they're called MC's" In my head, I was like what the hell. I feel UK artist sometimes put that blockade between Grime and Hip Hop. Like Snips said, Grime is an extension of Hip Hop. And on UK artist putting on American accents. It's not cool! Be who you are.
DJ Snips and LaLa said it well. UK Hip Hop is losing it's identity because you have folks trying to emulate US Hip Hop. UK urban artist need to realize they don't need validation nor acceptance for the US to be good. And the whole MC/Rapper argument comment DJ Snips said is so true. I did some work a few months back with a friend of mine when she came to NYC (She's from London) and we were discussing our favorite "Urban" artist.
Glad the old heads got brought up like, Task Force, Rodney P, Blak Twang that's when our scene was creative, can't forget the old garage heads too. Grime just died because it was just pure hype that people got bored of it quick & probably about 8/10 grime fans have never brought a grime cd in their life so they move to an audience that will.
theres definitely talent there, but real talent will never make it big because to make it big you have to turn commercial and thats the same reason grime is dyin now, you cant make it big being a true grime artist.
@FiringOnAllCylinders Grime has a distinct culture from both Hip-Hop and Reggae/Dancehal. It is uniquely British because of those distinctions. 'Rapping' was not something invented by Hip-Hop.
i am an american and i love grime music!!! i think the uk needs to stay true to it's self dont try to follow america, we both do hip hop and rap music but our flavors are completley diffrent from beats to rhyme structure! big ups to the uk and keep doing yer thang!
themarmulti 1 day ago
U.K dudes got BARS us americans dont listen to um b/c WE DONT HERE UM!!! im trying to get them bars on my trax @digiaddict,,,,,lets network across the pond. stay up u.k homies
kushmankev 5 days ago
grime IS a form of hip hop,,,,,whether you wanna admit it or not. you got an mc(hip hop) rapping(hip hop) over a beat. Its a brithish form of hip hop. are the m.cs not rapping???? c'mon now.....THAT BEING SAID,,,I FUX WITH THE GRIME and im in the south (U.S)
U.K artist hit me up so we can colab some U.k/U.s hard shyt
kushmankev 5 days ago
££££££££ if you ask me!
jooklum 1 week ago
grime and UK hip hop are different forms of hip hop.. grime are people like p-money, D double E and JME. UK hip hop is artists like Jehst, Ramson Badbonez
3G4ZA 2 weeks ago
@3G4ZA Grime ISN'T Hip Hop bruv, it's a form of UK Garage before the split between Dubstep and Grime but now, Grime has basically changed into...
Anekix 2 weeks ago
@3G4ZA realistically, hip hop was spitting over a beat. grime has the concept of doing freestyles over beats. the beats are just quicker and about 140BPM.. technically yes, grime is a form of garage which evolved ten years ago, but the concept is the same really.. in london the uk hip hop and grime scenes are divided
3G4ZA 1 week ago
some serious ignorance on display here
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i listen love hiphop i listen to german,french,americain,japanese,british hiphop. i appreciate grime is our thing. im not saying i dont like grime. i listen to lots of dubstep, garage an d&b still.and obviously boombap isnt just all laughs but it makes me feel high. just do your own thing whatevever it is?americia is a vast country so it will be hard for any artist to be heard over there. hiphop is a way, rap has an accent, music is art. peace
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Alright People, im Joe AKA Quazzy B, Im from Reading berkshire UK, i make music, Fresh hiphop, at the moment i record in my make shift studio in the back room, but im saving money's to buy real studio time. i put together makeshift videos for my tracks, i got 3 tracks up and im looking for valuable feedback because thats where the future is....... so if you have a little time to check out a track i would have great appreciation. many thanks !!!
QuazzyBee 1 month ago
Grime never had a chance because it is pure garbage full stop. Brit Hip Hop is better
718HOUSE 1 month ago
3:58 Geeza hit the nail on the head.......
CMEWENUCME2012 1 month ago
When the MC's from Saxon Sound came to NYC in the 80's, everybody "heard' something unique in their style, that they knew was not from Jamaica. If British artistes want to know how to maintain their authenticity, and tour America, maybe they should be seeking the advice of Tippa Irie.
Shemra 1 month ago 2
My accent is a"hybrid," containing equal parts South London Cockney, Caribbean patios, and North Eastern African American Ebonics. When I first went to high school, no one could understand me. i have a deep voice, and everything I said sounded "mumbled," so I picked up the Ebonics to communicate. But, I never picked up a lot of African American slang. So, when I hear artistes from anywhere other than California saying "Fo shizzle," It makes me scratch my head.
Shemra 1 month ago
Today, we see the influence of commercialized/stereotypical African-American culture everywhere. I live in Philadelphia, and would never wear a NY Yankees hat. I hate the Yankees. Yet, when I'm in Peckham, I see all these cats wearing Yankee hats. I love the Bronx, visit my family there all the time, but I'm not "from" the Bronx. I love Brooklyn, graduated from Brooklyn College, but I'm not "from" Brooklyn. Everybody knows me as the brother from London, even after living here for 30 years.
Shemra 1 month ago
When was 16, I left London and moved to the States in 1981. When I came here, most people had no idea where I was from, until I open my mouth. You see, Black British youth had a distinct style back then. I was the only person wearing a Burberry trench, Farah slacks, Pringle jumper, Bally shoes in my High School. Both the Caribbean and the American kids would ask me about my clothes. I remember the girls loved the fact that my pants seams were stitched in. What has happened since those days?
Shemra 1 month ago
Fuck 'UK hip-hop', labelling it just puts it in a box and limits every British artist... it's all hip-hop, it's all music.
PaperPlatesUK 2 months ago 2
Interesting! Agree with what Snips said on this.
bluntwun21 2 months ago
This is a very interesting debate.
I would say that Grime is a form of RAP music but it is not a form of hip-hop. hip hop is a culture & genre with rapping involved just like Grime and crunk music. Grime isnt a form of hiphop but it definitely has taken some influence from hiphop but production wise it was influenced by Uk garage & started off as a developed/more dark form of garage before the mc's came about.
SilentSome 2 months ago
To add to my previous comment. Grime was a reinvention of hip hop, but to say that current UK hip hop is 'American' is to ignore that artists are continuing to reinvent the music as their own!
EMBrepresent 2 months ago
Why is this even an argument?
Name one other genre where there was hatred for another country joined in?! There is no such thing as 'American Hip Hop', there is only Hip Hop and the ideals that it holds. If you're arguing for an anything else then you've missed the point! Genesis Elijah raises a fantastic point "Make the music you like. Listen to the music you like."! If you don't like the tunes coming from the UK then make your own. If you don't like some of it, ignore the shit you don't!
EMBrepresent 2 months ago
Zzzzzzzz Who gives a fuck? Make the music you like. Listen to the music you like...
genesiselijahtv 2 months ago 2
Grime isn't UK Hip Hop or Hip Hop in general. Grime was our Street Culture for years and obviously declined but if you look at it, Grime and Dubstep came from UK Garage which is British Dance Music. The American's Dance Music is basically Hip Hop, R'n'B and more, but if you know Hip Hop's history, it derived from Disco and that was blatantly a Worldwide dance scene.
Anekix 2 months ago
Im gona try and show you what genres got big from MUSIC ABROAD which is AMERICAN.
Disco>Funk>Hip Hop (rap music).
Disco> House (From the warehouse club)>Garage(from Club garage)>UK Garage> 2 STEP (named for its drum pattern)> Dark Garage (darker notes)> Grime.
Reggae> Dub (reggae sub genre)> Dubstep ALL CLASSIC D.S. DJ'S KNOW ITS FROM
DUB MUSIC Hence the typical drum patterns.
And many more.. My point is GRIME is not born from english dirt even fix up look sharp was a USA rock sample "BIG BEAT"
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@straydupshemzy Wow! You...went...iiiiiin lol. Nice to see another conscious guy on the Music tip, but you're wrong about 'Fix up look sharp' being Grime. That was early UK Rap and not Grime. Dizzee is and was versatile. If you watch/listen to the video of 'Fix up...' a Grime choons comes in.
America did influence Grime, hence hearing Hip Hop, Rap, House & Garage in the Music but you totally forgot two genres born in the UK which Grime emcees flowed too.
Jungle and Drum & Bass.
Anekix 2 months ago
@Anekix Thanks but i didnt say it was GRIME haha i said, "My point is GRIME is not born from english dirt even fix up look sharp was a USA rock sample BIG BEAT"
straydupshemzy 2 months ago
@straydupshemzy That's 'Fix up....' though, like I said before, Dizzee was that guy but the choon 'Stop That' after the 'Fix up...' part in the video is pure Grime. Grime is fully an English sound with the fusion of Dark Garage, Rap, Dancehall and Jungle/D&B.
One genre comes from America, another from Jamaica and the rest is Homegrown.
Anekix 2 months ago
And the reason why it's hard for UK rappers to break the US market is the same reason it's hard for Canadians, Australians, etc. First of all, breaking the US Hip Hop scene is hard for everyone even Americans, the US is very competitive just at the local city level you got rappers fighting for the top, lastly UK rappers aren't in the US market so in order to get into the US market you got to grind it out in the US like everybody else by dropping mixtapes, singles, albums, performing and touring.
Drknoble 2 months ago
I'm from the US, so I got to say DJ snips is correct in most of what he's saying. MC and rapper are the same thing over here, they're used interchangeably. However Y'all are wrong about toasting. Black culture in the US was not looking to Jamaica, Jamaican music wasn't even popular in the black community around that time, it was R&B/Soul and Funk. Rapping is a form of jive talk that's been part of black American culture for a long time. Muhammad ali was rapping.
Drknoble 2 months ago
@jimfox123sse Outkast were booed off stage at the 1994 source awards in NYC because at the time NYers were not happy about people from other regions taking awards that they felt they owned. Essentially they got booed cause they WERE southern not cause they SOUNDED southern. There first two albums are very NYC esq. Theyve said it themselves so theres not really much else to debate on this.
djsnipstv 2 months ago
Jamaican Toasting is not all there is to hiphop
You got other influences that originated in the U.S.A
BlacknesUnforgivable 2 months ago
I dont normally like to comment of these vids but @iAmAyoDigital If u listen to the type of music Outkast came in the game making (so u would have to go back to 1994) they were rapping over sampled beats and breaks and have said on numerous occasions said there sound was more akin to NYC hip hop than the typical sounding southern records (ie, Not rapping over 808s and Synths) much like Scarface and the Ghetto Boys. So no, I doubt they would laugh in my face
djsnipstv 2 months ago
@djsnipstv OUTkast was booed in new york for sounding too "southern".
jimfox123sse 2 months ago
JME does only grime and he made it, cmon guys grime has made it to germany,canada even some other countries europe. it's because most artist are trying to make paper and not music that why grime rappers and jumping on pop tunes. and grime is a fork of hip-hop but I do feel like it is make the unique.
Covcentralent 2 months ago
@Covcentralent Sorry but Have you heard his "thuggish ruggish remix"? or "Side tracked"? or that one when hes like "Im JME, my names tattooed on the grime scene"... I GARANTEE YOU if you heard those 3 instrumentals u would say its rap. I bet if rick ross was on it u wouldnt say its a grime beat.
straydupshemzy 2 months ago
Locked off when they said Grime was hip-hop TBH. Dislike.
Mbryan87 2 months ago
this is soo fucking ignorant. Grime is definitely not uk hip hop. Grime came from UK garage, Uk garage came from US garage and US garage came from Disco that's the only way Hip Hop and grime are related from Disco. UK Hip Hop is skinnyman, taskforce, rodney p, blak twang etc etc. None of the original grime MCs took inspiration from the US hip hop scene they took it from UK garage MCs who got their inspiration from jungle MCs who got theirs from acid house mcs who came from Disco also.
NakedJKid 2 months ago 2
Dear DJ SNIPS... OutKast have never made New York sounding Hip Hop. You could NEVER tell 3 Stacks & Big Boi that they made New York sounding Hip Hop. They'd laugh at you!! Simple!!
iAmAyoDigital 2 months ago 3
I agree grime came out as an extension of hip hop for in the early days of grime its main influence was surrounded by hip hop but as grime has developed new artists have taken influence from legendary grime mc's and they have created their own distinctive sound that has also impacted people across the world I even listened to russian grime the other day so how is grime dying, however it is the sad truth that grime will never break the charts and be a commercial genre of music
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MADEINOLIVEBLOG 2 months ago
......The UK. I know everything ain't Posh out there. As a matter of Fact, y'all got potty mouths lol!!! You can be very vile!!! I know you got HOODS OUT THERE TOO!!! See, not every American is ignorant :-). Also, YOU NEED TO UNBLOCK SOME OF YOU GUYS MATERIALS. I tried to watch Top Boy and it said I didn't have permission to watch it in my Country.
sweetnectar83 2 months ago 2
@sweetnectar83 lool you need to get a British IP address
jimfox123sse 2 months ago
Personally I think more urban ppl from the US needs to inquire (enquire for the UK) about the Uk urban culture. The UK knows more about the US than we do about them. If more do, the Urban culture would be such a STRONG FORCE!!! I'm a BROOKLYN Sistah learning more about it. I say more because I'm not Oblivious about......
sweetnectar83 2 months ago
If the the Brits or any other European country wants to rock a BROOKLYN, NY LA, or any other Fitted or Snapbacks form the States, Go ahead!!! Continue!!! If the didn't love and embraced our urban culture, these American artist wouldn't make one Pound Sterling, Franc,or Euro!!!
sweetnectar83 2 months ago
There is nothing wrong with the Brits liking and embracing the AMERICAN SWAG. Specifically the NYC SWAG. I'm not being cocky but ain't no Swagga like a NYC SWAGGA!!! ITS IMPECCABLE!!! It never loses its touch. They way we talk, walk, our slang, everything!!! Its just something about it that make a lot of ppl gravitate towards it. And to me its a Beautiful thing!!!
sweetnectar83 2 months ago 2
It's funny how Brits are saying grime is dead and following yanks who are saying hip hop is dead. I guess in general Brits are followers, which is why I listen to people like Scorcher, who's embraced British "swag" more than the average. Replicate it and we'll have something fresh to shout about as a country
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its a shame really grime had a chance to blow but it couldnt cos too meni brit rappers wanna beg americans..its all a dead hype if u ask me
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sazzy949 2 months ago
majority of londoners these days are gassed and need to dead the hype and hit reality..yeye true u myt have it hard but not as much as AMERICA. UK hiphop will never get the same reputition as American hiphop did EVER cos its true we have lost our identity and its sad when i walk around london and im seeing dumb rich kids acting like theyre on their GRIND LMAO trying to act like a fake 50 cent and on the TAYLOR GANG hype when they could be promoting and supporting the UK instead of breddin yanks
sazzy949 2 months ago 3
The only reason why u feel grime is dying is cos brit niggas are too busy tryna overly impress Americans. I notice how yall wanna rock brooklyn hats, NY, LA wen u got the UK fitted hats n cloths too..How u talk about ur hood n be rockin harlem at the back yo shirts or trying to put on fake accent..yall got good music but have no identity stop stealin our swag or trying to be on the AMERICAN WAVE LOL come wit something more fresh then maybe we look at you and your music scene more serious
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Lowkey is the uk hip hop beast
KhanTutorials 2 months ago
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KhanTutorials 2 months ago
americans are begging grime...check out Danny brown
jimfox123sse 2 months ago
@jimfox123sse I'm sorry, but not even. I love Danny Brown and grime. Danny Brown's music is more avant garde and there is no unifying sound like dancehall for grime. His ryhme pattern varies on nearly every song as well so I can't say it's the speed either. But I do think alot of americans like myself can appreciate what the uk is doing.
tyknos93 2 months ago
Remember when US artist were doing the Slick Rick Flow?
Tygabone 2 months ago
@Tygabone No not really who do you think influence slick rick?
Americans
enferno00 2 months ago
Not really as the identity was heavily influenced by Jamaican(dancehall) and American(Hiphop) artist with the slanguage we use on a daily basis, some grime artists speak in a jamaican accent but no one calls them a Jafaican, if someone tweeks their british accent to sound american on a few words to make the bar flow i aint got a problem with it
Tygabone 2 months ago
Grimes dead cause its all just hype talk which is 100% gas and doesnt have to be true, which is why rich white kids sit there and love of it.. Rap, however.. more time the guys are talkin real!! an REAL people can relate..
dentzoi 2 months ago
@dentzoi actually a lot of UK rap is pure gass too
wizzlekidd 2 months ago
realistically, it's the accent & lifestyle debate, as long as what man are chatting about is true to themselves and the accents are their own then i dont see a problem with making american style hip hop...
beatbutcha 2 months ago
I'm an American who listen to UK Hip/ Rap/ Grime and when I'm listening to it. I don't want to be listening to fake accents. I'm not listening US Hip Hop or Rap! I'm listening to Grime so give people that and don't be fake about. UK urban artist need to realize they are so one of a kind and the culture of UK urban music for them to try and emulate US Hip Hop and Rap. Once again, great topic! DJ Snips goes ham on his responses. Got to love it!
Grime/ Hip Hop/ Rap fein from NYC
MADEINOLIVEBLOG 2 months ago
I'm like my favorite rapper and she just paused the conversation and said "No, they're called MC's" In my head, I was like what the hell. I feel UK artist sometimes put that blockade between Grime and Hip Hop. Like Snips said, Grime is an extension of Hip Hop. And on UK artist putting on American accents. It's not cool! Be who you are.
MADEINOLIVEBLOG 2 months ago
DJ Snips and LaLa said it well. UK Hip Hop is losing it's identity because you have folks trying to emulate US Hip Hop. UK urban artist need to realize they don't need validation nor acceptance for the US to be good. And the whole MC/Rapper argument comment DJ Snips said is so true. I did some work a few months back with a friend of mine when she came to NYC (She's from London) and we were discussing our favorite "Urban" artist.
MADEINOLIVEBLOG 2 months ago
have a look at the Scottish Rap game :)
lrbofficial 2 months ago
@lrbofficial name some scottish rappers please and ill look them up
Stinsonboi 2 months ago
Glad the old heads got brought up like, Task Force, Rodney P, Blak Twang that's when our scene was creative, can't forget the old garage heads too. Grime just died because it was just pure hype that people got bored of it quick & probably about 8/10 grime fans have never brought a grime cd in their life so they move to an audience that will.
yesitsvetz 2 months ago 3
4:48 - 5:10 Realest words spoken.
theres definitely talent there, but real talent will never make it big because to make it big you have to turn commercial and thats the same reason grime is dyin now, you cant make it big being a true grime artist.
footballmadmitch 2 months ago 16
@footballmadmitch so true look at p money and ghetts
aquariuzn19 2 months ago
@footballmadmitch grime is not dyin, its alive and kickin
SquirtMcQuirt 3 weeks ago
dj snips just hit the nail on the head...grime is an extension of hiphop
FiringOnAllCylinders 2 months ago 17
@FiringOnAllCylinders no its not.
djfiremansam 3 weeks ago
@djfiremansam rapping over a any beat is hiphop
FiringOnAllCylinders 3 weeks ago
@FiringOnAllCylinders unlesss its reggae chatting which came first and birthed hip hop back in the day. So basically you're wrong.
djfiremansam 3 weeks ago
@djfiremansam hiphop coming from Jamaica doesn't make me wrong...
FiringOnAllCylinders 3 weeks ago
@FiringOnAllCylinders So Reggae / Dancehall is hip-hop then? despite birthday the genre....
djfiremansam 3 weeks ago
@FiringOnAllCylinders Grime has a distinct culture from both Hip-Hop and Reggae/Dancehal. It is uniquely British because of those distinctions. 'Rapping' was not something invented by Hip-Hop.
djfiremansam 3 weeks ago