This is a very interesting thought. I was diagnosed with CFS when I was 17, and at 32 with the fibro. I think you may be on to something. It could also be a physical response to what we are doing to the planet. I know several ppl with fibro, both pagan and non. This is something I will have to bring up to them.
I couldn't agree with you more. I have Fibromyalgia, as does my Mother, and my Aunt. And we are all three very intuitive, empathetic, and all have dreams that come true. I've been told I'm very spiritually sensitive. My Mother is Catholic, and my Aunt doesn't have a religion. I do think there is a link of some kind. I always know when somethings wrong with someone I know, just a feeling I get, my mother also gets this feeling. Thank you for making this video!
Hi. I just came across your video. I came down with fibro symptoms after a bad infection last Fall. I am not a pagan I am a Christian. I often describe myself as a Christian shaman... Anyhow, I am very intuitive, have lucid dreams, some weird abilities that I won't go into. There could be a connection, but the majority of fibro people I have talked to don't seem into the more mysterious side of life. I recently read a book called "the highly sensitive person" and recommend it. Thanks!
Hello crafty, i too have fibromyagia. spiritually speaking im torn somewhere between pagan and Christianity. i have read several articles on chronic pain and there is most definitely a connection. like you i have hypersensitive nerves...its believed that this sensitivity actually causes one to be open to spirituality and other plains as soon as i find these articles again I'll be sure to leave the links here for you and the others
Hey there, i have fibro and am very spiritualy open minded, or cosmic, i have the qualities of an empath and channeller according to pyscics, though have never persued this. I doget dream premonitions. My fibro has got worse since i have become more spiritualy aware:s very interesting thoughts there! Definately food for thought.
My cousin has Lupus and FM as do I. We are also empathic, and or the great psychic label. We have noticed that we flare at the same times. My sis also has FM and also flares when we do. these flares seem to have something to do with Mercury retrograde. When it is in retrograde, we feel better, things go better for us as well. We come from a family of women who have had lets say abilities. All of the woman were called hypochondriacts when in fact they were not.
I just searched the web for a fibro/empath connection and your video popped up. I am intuitive and an empath. At 52, still discovering how this all works for me. :D
Working in a 911 ctr. for 21 yrs., stress is a factor! Musculoskeletal problems from "Holding stress" and sucking up negative energy has to be factors! Empaths/Fibro makes so much sense(not shielding). My intuitive mom has it, so did my grandmother. Had to comment, you are on track! Thanks much!
I'm so glad I came accross your vid I've been thinking the same things that you have touched on here although I am not a pagan I am very spiritual and intuitive I've had lots of experiances with different things. I also have been diagnosed with fm
I think there is a link between people who r empaths & fibro but it seems that ppl tend 2 think that since I am pagan, that I mean a link between pagans & fibro. That is not what I trying 2 get across in the vid. Empaths span the globe, found in every religion/spiritual path, culture etc. I noticed a higher poplulation of ppl with fibro in the pagan community, who happened 2 b empaths. This just got me thinking that maybe perhaps empaths r more prone 2 developing fibro. I'm sure there is a link.
light healers there are so many types of people and pros out there. one step ahead of the rest. I explained to one fibro how to get out of this mess. 30min pain gone i wrote about it on my site use yahoo search ((jamespowelson))
you have to focus your healing on your digestive system and on your endorphine emitters. jamespowelson look on yahoo search for my site healings i have done typing is not my thing
I am not pagan but also have noo idea what it is. I am Christian Levitt. Its a Christian but a totally diff type I don't eat pork or believe in immunizations. I would say yes I am an empath and also slightly psychic I have had a flew of things happen to me, much paranormal. Check out my video I drempt it b4 it happend.
I think that no matter what religious/spiritual path someone is, if they tend to be an empath, then perhaps they are more at risk for having fm. Blessings to y ou and yours :)
i have fibormyalgia, hyperlaxtated joints, cfs, disgenerate disk syndrom in my back, i have multi seneitive syndrom like you, torn miniskes in my knee, i'll be crippled by 30, and i sleep one hr a night bc of night terrors and i'm bipolar. and i am a diviner, aura reader, empath, pyschic, clarvoyant, and i'm a headge witch
Wow...glad to see someone else has noticed a connection, here! Not sure what to clasify myself as belief wise, other than much more spiritual than religious. However, I do feel that I am very intuitive, and def an empath. I started noticing that pretty much everyone I know with FMS is a Lightworker (which I feel I am), Pagan, Intuituve, etc. Pretty interesting...
hello pagans and non pagans. pain is only a byproduct poor brain function. and of poor understand of your own spirt body. yet it is a small step for recovery. 1 point is digestion. so your digestive systems was traumatize as well as your head and ear and senses. focus on healing the inside will allow you to recover. a prelude of knowlege you just read. your welcomed to use reply or contack acct 723j32
I got to help you guys for free I have exp with incurables 2 with fibro and I helped them. go to yahoo search and look for jamespowelson I will help you for free print the info on the website study it and you will get better always reply when you see jamespowelson.
I'm undergoing tests for this right now and I'm not pegan. I am tired of hearing the docs tell me that it's all in my head when I know the pain is real.
perhaps you have empathic abilities? not all empaths are pagan :) But there seems to be such a high number of empaths (pagan, christian etc) who have fibro. I really think its something to be further researched. The medical community seems divided on this issue, some believe its just psychological, others believe it to be very real. And anyone w/fibro knows its real. *gentle hugs* I hope you find a good dr & i hope things work out for you.
I haven't had a major flare up for 5 yrs by incorporating alot of grounding/centering & shielding techniques into my daily life. Plus stress management is a biggie, as is getting enough rest. Also, some ppl have found that by getting rid of alot of toxinx in their bodies, changing over 2 organic foods, detergents etc has helped them.
Maybe the it has to do with extra production of some particular neurotransmiter contributing to increased "sense of empathy", while the misfunction may also sometimes trigger a deficit of seratonin and other neurotranmitter production sometimes leading to Fibromyalgia. Just speculating.
I'm strongly empathic and have Fibromyalgia, is there a connection? Maybe, maybe not. *shrugs*
(cont.) I believe we're being slowly poisoned by the chemicals added to our air, water and food supplies. My Dad says our Blackfeet blood (his mom was Wisconsin Blackfoot) is fighting our "white" blood and ways, and that we need to go back to living the way we are supposed to, in harmony with the Earth, to stop the "fighting" going on in our bodies. I DO believe there's something powerful true in that. Keep searching, keep wondering, there must be ANSWERS, we just need to FIND them.
its a sad fact that humans are exposed to so much toxic chemicals in the food, air, water & land :( I believe that definately plays a huge part in so many illnesses & diseases out there. Sorry to hear about your accident *hugs* Much love and blessings to you.
We're in definite agreement over the "seeking" end of things, for sure. It's more important to US, than anyone else, that a cure is found, because it's OUR LIFE at stake, and we WANT THAT BACK!
Until I was in a car accident that resulted in long-term injuries, I was healthy, never taking more than a Tylenol now and then for a headache. (cont.)
Here, in your "space" you're ATTRACTING friends and subscribers who already SHARE most of YOUR attributes & opinions, and they will easily chime in with "me, too", giving you a SKEWED result. No offense intended. Wish you luck and pain-free days (I haven't seen any of either in many years, myself)... BTW, I DO consider myself somewhat an empath. But a Christian one.
It was 4:30 a.m., I was tired but what I was trying 2 convey was an idea about empaths & whether or not they were more prone 2 having fm. Didn't mean 2 imply every single pagan out there has fm, sorry if it sounded that way. it was just an idea of mine that perhaps ppl who r empathic (pagan or otherwise), are more susceptable 2 developing fm. Naturally, unbiased research would b needed 2 prove/disprove my early morning idea lol.
Like I mentioned b4 in other comments, I was just wondering if empaths were more likely 2 develope fm; just like how Natives r more prone 2 develop diabetes than other races. Regardless of one's spiritual background (christian, pagan or otherwise), i was curious about how many empathic ppl have fm. I agree that one would need to research this in a very unbiased manner, like u said, via contacting some national orgs etc. I didn't say i was conducting research via this vid
there4, its not a SKEWED result, as I wasn't conducting actual research here. I have an academic background & know how proper research should be conducted :) Like I questioned in this babbling vid, perhaps its something genetic or "empathetic people' r more prone etc. either way, i think it's worth looking in2 in a nonbiased manner. Not offended at all, glad you shared your opinion. Empathetic ppl span all cultures/spiritual backgrounds. I just happen 2B pagan who is also empthatic ;)
I'm NOT pagan, but have had severe FM/Spinal Stenosis for a decade. I identify with you in your need to research and investigate this terrible, wide-ranging disease (I've been there; still AM), but your question might be better posed in a less biased group. For instance, ask a GENERAL "Fibromyalgia" support group how many of them are PAGAN, not the other way around (as you did here, in your video). (cont next comment)
You're on the right path. I'm a nurse, empathic, but not practicing any spiritual traditions at this time. I have found with intense interaction with my patients, I actually absorb their negative energies. It's what's necessary to begin their healing process. I see it as removing a blockage. The after-effects for me is pain, fatigue, and sometimes the same symptoms of the patient. Maybe you are a healer- or having energies drawn into or away from you from different aspects.
I've known of healers who'd absorb ppl's pain, illnesses etc, then they have 2 get rid of that energy after. Now what if empathetic ppl, whether they are adults/children, didn't know they were empaths etc &absorbed other's feelings, energies etc, i wonder if the effect would b developing something like fibro later on is possible. Its just a theory, i've got no proof, would love 2 further research it though, get some stats, give it some credibility lol. TY 4 sharing Anne :)
Crafty, I just discovered you and sorry it took so long to do so. I was diagnosed with Fibro and CHF almost immediately after I began to follow my path! I am an empath, too! I notice I get my flare-ups around the full moon, when I want to do ritual, or when I need to do some spell work! I am making a protector tomorrow! Blessed Be, Morningshine
the last really serious flare up was back in 2003 and it lasted for a few mths. It was so incredibly painful, felt like every tissue in my body was on fire, could barely walk etc. Not fun at all. Thats interesting about ur flareups being around full moon. I think this whole area should be studied further.
hi crafty, i am new to this but i wanted to say i don't think fm is prejudiced what i do believe people with fm are more sensitive in ALL aspects. our intuition is hightened and we don't know any different because we were made this way. i am not a pagan nor am i religious but i am very spiritual..i am very empathetic person. some ppl might say i am over reactive but then i can turn around and say i am normal..so who is to say? do you get where i am coming from?
Oh i didn't mean to imply that fm is prejudiced, but like certian illness, such as diabetes, there are groups of ppl who tend to be predisposed at developing it. Native ppl here in canada have teh highest rates of diabetes etc. So my theory was perhaps ppl who are natural empaths, maybe be more inclined 2 develop fm.
If ur an empath & didn't know it, imagine spending ur childhood/adulthood, feeling the pain of others, illness, etc. And not knowing how to ground & center your own energies and release it. I think perhaps, it could be a build up of such energies over a period of time etc. Just a theory. But there just seems to be an aweful lot of empathetic folks etc who have it. Perhaps they didn't know how 2 release these energies, it build up and made them ill etc. Dunno. I think its worth researching though
Wow crafty. You may be onto something there. I've been diagnosed with Fibro, and so have many other pagan people I know. Maybe this could lead to something big! Lol.
its a theory, i've got no proof other than knowing alot of empaths/pagans/healers/spiritualists who've been diagnosed with it. Need stats, that would be a job in itself lol Maybe i should write a grant & further research this lol
Its just a theory of mine. I need stats lol But i think it makes sense, especially given that there are so many pagans/empaths that r diagnosed with it. I know there r ppl who aren't empathetic etc that do have it, but my theory is perhaps ppl who are natural empaths are more suseptable to developing this illness.
I have fibromyalgia as well....but I don't think it's more common in Pagans. I think that it's just that we are more open about our medical conditions, and are more open to ideas and alternative treatments.
I was actually thinking about doing a video about my fibro, and how my life has changed so rapidly in less than a year due to a flare that caused me to finally be diagnosed.
I was thinking that its similar 2 diabetes among native ppl here in canada. The native population has the highest rates of it & its more common among us than other groups. So i thought maybe it could b the same with empaths &fibro or ppl who r healers etc. Not 2 say that every single pagan/empath will have fibro, but perhaps it could be more common among us b/c they r more sensitive etc perhaps as children, we didn't know how 2 ground/center/release energies & it build up.
yeah, i think it would be worth it to explore it further, do some research, get some stats etc. but who knows, its already such a 'mysterious' condition which some docs still don't believe is real :( But who who knows, I could be barking up the wrong tree lol :P
Okay, I am starting to clue in. Allergies is an adverse reaction: your body reacting to something normal as if it were a danger. If more empathetic people than not have FM then maybe they are getting over-loaded(?) somehow and starting to reject the outside world. Stress reaction?
Very possible. Or it could be, that perhaps prior to realizing one's own empathetic abilities, we've been exposed to all kinds of energies from others (pain, sickness etc) and have unwittingly absorbed this and didn't know, thus we didn't cleanse ourselves psychically etc (grounding, centering, shielding etc) and got sick. Or like u said, our bodies reaction to being overloaded/stressed.
For instance, say u r empathetic, but didn't know. Fr childhood 2 adulthood all the energies/emotions/feelings u picked up fr others & never knew how 2 release it etc. This goes on for yrs. Then 1 day, u get sick, body can't take it. u become really sensitive 2 things, agony rips through all ur muscles,tendons,ligaments etc. Then u r diagnosed as having fibro. Could be coincidence, but with all the folks who r empathetic/pagan/spiritual etc, it seems like there r so many out there that have it.
I am an Aquarius so I am not all that empathetic (I don't think) and my twin sons are Pisces (and say they are very empathetic) but they don't have FM, so I am not sure if there is any correlation with FM and empathy. I am intuitive though, for whatever that's worth. (Was Christian, now pagan but don't think it has made any difference to my FM.)
Well i think that maybe ppl who are natural empaths etc, prolly have more of a likelyhood of having it (just my theory), that is not to say that everyone who is pagan or an empath will have fibro. Like here in canada, the highest population to have diabetes are the natives, not saying every single native has it, but statistically speaking, diabetes is more common in our population than in mainstream/non-native folks. So I thought maybe it was similar to the fibro connection.
I've had Fibromyalgia and Rheumatoid Arthritis for years. I did energy treatments for the RA; the counsellor said FM is sensitivity/allergy to fabric softeners (chemical toxins). When I tossed all perfumes & cleaners out it made a huge difference in fatigue and pain levels. If FM is chemical sensitivity it would explain CFS as a more severe version of allergies. I now recommend anyone with FM go non-toxic. (EFT can offer de-sensitizing but that takes time.)
Very informative! Thank you for sharing! I know that there's also a connection with one's sleep patterns too and a hormone/chemical that the body releases when they are in stage 4 sleep that repairs the tissues. Alot of ppl with fibro, don't get to stage 4 sleep, and end up feeling the effects. I think alot of things prolly contribute to this whole thing.
How interesting! I forgot about the sleep problems. I was diagnosed with "severe stress' (I thought I was having a nervous breakdown) by the doc about 3 yrs before the FM diagnosis: because I was not getting R.E.M. (rapid eye movement) sleep!
I think you're on to something . . . Is there a pagan ritual or herb that can give protection from fibromyalgia? . . . could it be some kind of curse or spell?
I don't think its a curse. I think perhaps ppl who are more empathetic etc could be more prone to developing it, perhaps because if we weren't taught at an early age to block or release the energies we pick up from others, we ended up carrying with us, I dunno. But i've heard of healers taking on ppl's pain, then having to get rid of it afterwards. So who knows. I think grounding, centering and shielding would prolly be important
I think it makes sense. Your feeling of the sunlight is being multiplied by the feeling others are getting around you and that might make the sensation worse than what is okay for the skin, etc.
I dunno if there is a connection and the reason I say this is that my mom has Fibro and I am pagan and I do not have it..although I can kinda guess what she is going through but in reality I would say that I have no idea. But if there is a connection I think that it would help me to better understand what my mom and everyone else who has this disease is going through.
yeah it was just a thought, it seems though that so many pagans i know have it or ppl who are empaths. I was thinking that maybe its just more common amoung this group of folks. Kinda like how diabetes is more common amoung native folks etc.
hiya. i too have fibro and i am wiccan..merry meet. )O(
00MAGENTA00 9 months ago
I've always been aware that I do carry the pain of other people, my FM gets worse in the presence of other people. I've always been an empath.
bunnyclubfoot 2 years ago
This is a very interesting thought. I was diagnosed with CFS when I was 17, and at 32 with the fibro. I think you may be on to something. It could also be a physical response to what we are doing to the planet. I know several ppl with fibro, both pagan and non. This is something I will have to bring up to them.
tktrinity 2 years ago
I couldn't agree with you more. I have Fibromyalgia, as does my Mother, and my Aunt. And we are all three very intuitive, empathetic, and all have dreams that come true. I've been told I'm very spiritually sensitive. My Mother is Catholic, and my Aunt doesn't have a religion. I do think there is a link of some kind. I always know when somethings wrong with someone I know, just a feeling I get, my mother also gets this feeling. Thank you for making this video!
CrisstynaJ 2 years ago
Hi. I just came across your video. I came down with fibro symptoms after a bad infection last Fall. I am not a pagan I am a Christian. I often describe myself as a Christian shaman... Anyhow, I am very intuitive, have lucid dreams, some weird abilities that I won't go into. There could be a connection, but the majority of fibro people I have talked to don't seem into the more mysterious side of life. I recently read a book called "the highly sensitive person" and recommend it. Thanks!
ViolentShrinking 2 years ago
Hello crafty, i too have fibromyagia. spiritually speaking im torn somewhere between pagan and Christianity. i have read several articles on chronic pain and there is most definitely a connection. like you i have hypersensitive nerves...its believed that this sensitivity actually causes one to be open to spirituality and other plains as soon as i find these articles again I'll be sure to leave the links here for you and the others
syndeepangborn 2 years ago
catholic : )
M00NWINK 3 years ago
;) you are more than welcome at my channel.
craftywytch 3 years ago
Oh and I have the light thing.....some days its like a migraine type pain caused by light and the sunglasses are always on.
I think this is my last comment lol
M00NWINK 3 years ago
lol
craftywytch 3 years ago
btw sister has Lupus and MS. I think your on to something.
M00NWINK 3 years ago
Yes YEs yes fibromyalgia and Multiple sclerosis as well as empathetic pain and emotion, its too much! Nice channel Ive just subscribed thanks mary
M00NWINK 3 years ago
thank you for stopping by and subbing mary!! I do think there is a definate link but research would need to be done.
craftywytch 3 years ago
Hi Crafty - I've been diagnosed with Fibro for 10 years now. Very empathic, etc. Just thought I'd add to your poll ;)
HeatherWATC 3 years ago
Hi Heather :) I think its something that should definately be researched :) Thanks for sharing :)
craftywytch 3 years ago
Hey there, i have fibro and am very spiritualy open minded, or cosmic, i have the qualities of an empath and channeller according to pyscics, though have never persued this. I doget dream premonitions. My fibro has got worse since i have become more spiritualy aware:s very interesting thoughts there! Definately food for thought.
lauraberryguitartist 3 years ago
It's definately worth considering. Perhaps try to implement some shielding techniques :)
craftywytch 3 years ago
My cousin has Lupus and FM as do I. We are also empathic, and or the great psychic label. We have noticed that we flare at the same times. My sis also has FM and also flares when we do. these flares seem to have something to do with Mercury retrograde. When it is in retrograde, we feel better, things go better for us as well. We come from a family of women who have had lets say abilities. All of the woman were called hypochondriacts when in fact they were not.
Oceanala 3 years ago
Thanks so much for sharing Oceanaia :)
craftywytch 3 years ago
Hi,
I just searched the web for a fibro/empath connection and your video popped up. I am intuitive and an empath. At 52, still discovering how this all works for me. :D
Working in a 911 ctr. for 21 yrs., stress is a factor! Musculoskeletal problems from "Holding stress" and sucking up negative energy has to be factors! Empaths/Fibro makes so much sense(not shielding). My intuitive mom has it, so did my grandmother. Had to comment, you are on track! Thanks much!
Empath911 3 years ago
Thanks for sharing! I definately agree that there must be some sort of connection, but it needs research. Blessings to you and yours! :D
craftywytch 3 years ago
another pagan here with fibro..
dorthyandtotoauntem 3 years ago
Hi dorthy :)
craftywytch 3 years ago
I have Fibromyalgia and am also an empath. I have wondered myself it there is a connection. Very interesting video!
RavenStargarden 3 years ago
Thnx I think there is a link between the two, but only accurate research will determine if my theory is right or wrong lol :)
craftywytch 3 years ago
I'm so glad I came accross your vid I've been thinking the same things that you have touched on here although I am not a pagan I am very spiritual and intuitive I've had lots of experiances with different things. I also have been diagnosed with fm
snowleopard2o 3 years ago
I think there is a link between people who r empaths & fibro but it seems that ppl tend 2 think that since I am pagan, that I mean a link between pagans & fibro. That is not what I trying 2 get across in the vid. Empaths span the globe, found in every religion/spiritual path, culture etc. I noticed a higher poplulation of ppl with fibro in the pagan community, who happened 2 b empaths. This just got me thinking that maybe perhaps empaths r more prone 2 developing fibro. I'm sure there is a link.
craftywytch 3 years ago
Brightest of blessings to you and thanks for sharing :)
craftywytch 3 years ago
please read what your doctor may not tell you about fibromyalgia by Doctor St Amand it will help u so much
Guai4life 3 years ago
I haven't had much problem with fm for the past 5 1/2 years. Still sensitive to the light though.
craftywytch 3 years ago
CF is not Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, that is CFS... CF is a death sentence, Cystic Fibrosis! GROWLLLLLLL!!!!
eyez2cwith 3 years ago
Yeah I know CF is not CFS, did I write that somewhere by accident? No need to be growling :P
craftywytch 3 years ago
light healers there are so many types of people and pros out there. one step ahead of the rest. I explained to one fibro how to get out of this mess. 30min pain gone i wrote about it on my site use yahoo search ((jamespowelson))
723j32 3 years ago
thnx for sharing :)
craftywytch 3 years ago
you have to focus your healing on your digestive system and on your endorphine emitters. jamespowelson look on yahoo search for my site healings i have done typing is not my thing
723j32 3 years ago
I am not pagan but also have noo idea what it is. I am Christian Levitt. Its a Christian but a totally diff type I don't eat pork or believe in immunizations. I would say yes I am an empath and also slightly psychic I have had a flew of things happen to me, much paranormal. Check out my video I drempt it b4 it happend.
JULIUSKITTY 3 years ago
I think that no matter what religious/spiritual path someone is, if they tend to be an empath, then perhaps they are more at risk for having fm. Blessings to y ou and yours :)
craftywytch 3 years ago
i have fibormyalgia, hyperlaxtated joints, cfs, disgenerate disk syndrom in my back, i have multi seneitive syndrom like you, torn miniskes in my knee, i'll be crippled by 30, and i sleep one hr a night bc of night terrors and i'm bipolar. and i am a diviner, aura reader, empath, pyschic, clarvoyant, and i'm a headge witch
daegona19 3 years ago
*hugs* You've got a whole lot of things going on! Have you tried any cleansing and shielding techniques? Maybe it might help a bit?
craftywytch 3 years ago
Wow...glad to see someone else has noticed a connection, here! Not sure what to clasify myself as belief wise, other than much more spiritual than religious. However, I do feel that I am very intuitive, and def an empath. I started noticing that pretty much everyone I know with FMS is a Lightworker (which I feel I am), Pagan, Intuituve, etc. Pretty interesting...
kindnessevolution 3 years ago
I think its an area worth researching, if only I had the time :P Blessings to you
craftywytch 3 years ago
hello pagans and non pagans. pain is only a byproduct poor brain function. and of poor understand of your own spirt body. yet it is a small step for recovery. 1 point is digestion. so your digestive systems was traumatize as well as your head and ear and senses. focus on healing the inside will allow you to recover. a prelude of knowlege you just read. your welcomed to use reply or contack acct 723j32
723j32 3 years ago
I got to help you guys for free I have exp with incurables 2 with fibro and I helped them. go to yahoo search and look for jamespowelson I will help you for free print the info on the website study it and you will get better always reply when you see jamespowelson.
723j32 3 years ago
I'm undergoing tests for this right now and I'm not pegan. I am tired of hearing the docs tell me that it's all in my head when I know the pain is real.
missmarie273 3 years ago
perhaps you have empathic abilities? not all empaths are pagan :) But there seems to be such a high number of empaths (pagan, christian etc) who have fibro. I really think its something to be further researched. The medical community seems divided on this issue, some believe its just psychological, others believe it to be very real. And anyone w/fibro knows its real. *gentle hugs* I hope you find a good dr & i hope things work out for you.
craftywytch 3 years ago
I haven't had a major flare up for 5 yrs by incorporating alot of grounding/centering & shielding techniques into my daily life. Plus stress management is a biggie, as is getting enough rest. Also, some ppl have found that by getting rid of alot of toxinx in their bodies, changing over 2 organic foods, detergents etc has helped them.
craftywytch 3 years ago
pagan since I was 5, have had fibro since 92..
willing to participate with researching..
Best of luck in your journey..
blessed be...
Snugs4You 3 years ago
I was thinking of perhaps starting researching this summer when I get a bit more free time on my hands lol We'll talk more :) Brightest blessings )O(
craftywytch 3 years ago
I think it could BE!
theenchantedkitty 3 years ago
its a possibility :)
craftywytch 3 years ago
Maybe the it has to do with extra production of some particular neurotransmiter contributing to increased "sense of empathy", while the misfunction may also sometimes trigger a deficit of seratonin and other neurotranmitter production sometimes leading to Fibromyalgia. Just speculating.
I'm strongly empathic and have Fibromyalgia, is there a connection? Maybe, maybe not. *shrugs*
ShadowArtist 3 years ago
I think the only way to ever know is if there is actual non-biased research done. It was just a thought :)
craftywytch 3 years ago
I never heard of Fibromyalgia, I should do research on it to see what it actually is.
jimmyisherenow 4 years ago
(cont.) I believe we're being slowly poisoned by the chemicals added to our air, water and food supplies. My Dad says our Blackfeet blood (his mom was Wisconsin Blackfoot) is fighting our "white" blood and ways, and that we need to go back to living the way we are supposed to, in harmony with the Earth, to stop the "fighting" going on in our bodies. I DO believe there's something powerful true in that. Keep searching, keep wondering, there must be ANSWERS, we just need to FIND them.
jipsieyes 4 years ago
its a sad fact that humans are exposed to so much toxic chemicals in the food, air, water & land :( I believe that definately plays a huge part in so many illnesses & diseases out there. Sorry to hear about your accident *hugs* Much love and blessings to you.
craftywytch 4 years ago
We're in definite agreement over the "seeking" end of things, for sure. It's more important to US, than anyone else, that a cure is found, because it's OUR LIFE at stake, and we WANT THAT BACK!
Until I was in a car accident that resulted in long-term injuries, I was healthy, never taking more than a Tylenol now and then for a headache. (cont.)
jipsieyes 4 years ago
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Here, in your "space" you're ATTRACTING friends and subscribers who already SHARE most of YOUR attributes & opinions, and they will easily chime in with "me, too", giving you a SKEWED result. No offense intended. Wish you luck and pain-free days (I haven't seen any of either in many years, myself)... BTW, I DO consider myself somewhat an empath. But a Christian one.
Gentle hugs,
jipsi
jipsieyes 4 years ago
It was 4:30 a.m., I was tired but what I was trying 2 convey was an idea about empaths & whether or not they were more prone 2 having fm. Didn't mean 2 imply every single pagan out there has fm, sorry if it sounded that way. it was just an idea of mine that perhaps ppl who r empathic (pagan or otherwise), are more susceptable 2 developing fm. Naturally, unbiased research would b needed 2 prove/disprove my early morning idea lol.
craftywytch 4 years ago
Like I mentioned b4 in other comments, I was just wondering if empaths were more likely 2 develope fm; just like how Natives r more prone 2 develop diabetes than other races. Regardless of one's spiritual background (christian, pagan or otherwise), i was curious about how many empathic ppl have fm. I agree that one would need to research this in a very unbiased manner, like u said, via contacting some national orgs etc. I didn't say i was conducting research via this vid
craftywytch 4 years ago
there4, its not a SKEWED result, as I wasn't conducting actual research here. I have an academic background & know how proper research should be conducted :) Like I questioned in this babbling vid, perhaps its something genetic or "empathetic people' r more prone etc. either way, i think it's worth looking in2 in a nonbiased manner. Not offended at all, glad you shared your opinion. Empathetic ppl span all cultures/spiritual backgrounds. I just happen 2B pagan who is also empthatic ;)
craftywytch 4 years ago
I'm NOT pagan, but have had severe FM/Spinal Stenosis for a decade. I identify with you in your need to research and investigate this terrible, wide-ranging disease (I've been there; still AM), but your question might be better posed in a less biased group. For instance, ask a GENERAL "Fibromyalgia" support group how many of them are PAGAN, not the other way around (as you did here, in your video). (cont next comment)
jipsieyes 4 years ago
Crafty,
You're on the right path. I'm a nurse, empathic, but not practicing any spiritual traditions at this time. I have found with intense interaction with my patients, I actually absorb their negative energies. It's what's necessary to begin their healing process. I see it as removing a blockage. The after-effects for me is pain, fatigue, and sometimes the same symptoms of the patient. Maybe you are a healer- or having energies drawn into or away from you from different aspects.
-Anne
clnclaudiero 4 years ago
I've known of healers who'd absorb ppl's pain, illnesses etc, then they have 2 get rid of that energy after. Now what if empathetic ppl, whether they are adults/children, didn't know they were empaths etc &absorbed other's feelings, energies etc, i wonder if the effect would b developing something like fibro later on is possible. Its just a theory, i've got no proof, would love 2 further research it though, get some stats, give it some credibility lol. TY 4 sharing Anne :)
craftywytch 4 years ago
Crafty, I just discovered you and sorry it took so long to do so. I was diagnosed with Fibro and CHF almost immediately after I began to follow my path! I am an empath, too! I notice I get my flare-ups around the full moon, when I want to do ritual, or when I need to do some spell work! I am making a protector tomorrow! Blessed Be, Morningshine
morningshine51 4 years ago
the last really serious flare up was back in 2003 and it lasted for a few mths. It was so incredibly painful, felt like every tissue in my body was on fire, could barely walk etc. Not fun at all. Thats interesting about ur flareups being around full moon. I think this whole area should be studied further.
craftywytch 4 years ago
hi crafty, i am new to this but i wanted to say i don't think fm is prejudiced what i do believe people with fm are more sensitive in ALL aspects. our intuition is hightened and we don't know any different because we were made this way. i am not a pagan nor am i religious but i am very spiritual..i am very empathetic person. some ppl might say i am over reactive but then i can turn around and say i am normal..so who is to say? do you get where i am coming from?
cissysophie 4 years ago
Oh i didn't mean to imply that fm is prejudiced, but like certian illness, such as diabetes, there are groups of ppl who tend to be predisposed at developing it. Native ppl here in canada have teh highest rates of diabetes etc. So my theory was perhaps ppl who are natural empaths, maybe be more inclined 2 develop fm.
craftywytch 4 years ago
If ur an empath & didn't know it, imagine spending ur childhood/adulthood, feeling the pain of others, illness, etc. And not knowing how to ground & center your own energies and release it. I think perhaps, it could be a build up of such energies over a period of time etc. Just a theory. But there just seems to be an aweful lot of empathetic folks etc who have it. Perhaps they didn't know how 2 release these energies, it build up and made them ill etc. Dunno. I think its worth researching though
craftywytch 4 years ago
Wow crafty. You may be onto something there. I've been diagnosed with Fibro, and so have many other pagan people I know. Maybe this could lead to something big! Lol.
Blessed Be )O(
kingboo66 4 years ago
its a theory, i've got no proof other than knowing alot of empaths/pagans/healers/spiritualists who've been diagnosed with it. Need stats, that would be a job in itself lol Maybe i should write a grant & further research this lol
craftywytch 4 years ago
I was just diagnosed with fibro, too and I am wiccan. WOW never thought about it.
Lilith1957 4 years ago
Its just a theory of mine. I need stats lol But i think it makes sense, especially given that there are so many pagans/empaths that r diagnosed with it. I know there r ppl who aren't empathetic etc that do have it, but my theory is perhaps ppl who are natural empaths are more suseptable to developing this illness.
craftywytch 4 years ago
I have fibromyalgia as well....but I don't think it's more common in Pagans. I think that it's just that we are more open about our medical conditions, and are more open to ideas and alternative treatments.
I was actually thinking about doing a video about my fibro, and how my life has changed so rapidly in less than a year due to a flare that caused me to finally be diagnosed.
Hmmmmmm....great minds and all that...LOL.
Aelwyndaeira 4 years ago
I was thinking that its similar 2 diabetes among native ppl here in canada. The native population has the highest rates of it & its more common among us than other groups. So i thought maybe it could b the same with empaths &fibro or ppl who r healers etc. Not 2 say that every single pagan/empath will have fibro, but perhaps it could be more common among us b/c they r more sensitive etc perhaps as children, we didn't know how 2 ground/center/release energies & it build up.
craftywytch 4 years ago
It's an interesting theory. I wish more was known about Fibro to see if there is indeed a link. It's something worth pursuing, that's for sure!
Aelwyndaeira 4 years ago
yeah, i think it would be worth it to explore it further, do some research, get some stats etc. but who knows, its already such a 'mysterious' condition which some docs still don't believe is real :( But who who knows, I could be barking up the wrong tree lol :P
craftywytch 4 years ago
Okay, I am starting to clue in. Allergies is an adverse reaction: your body reacting to something normal as if it were a danger. If more empathetic people than not have FM then maybe they are getting over-loaded(?) somehow and starting to reject the outside world. Stress reaction?
domesne 4 years ago
Very possible. Or it could be, that perhaps prior to realizing one's own empathetic abilities, we've been exposed to all kinds of energies from others (pain, sickness etc) and have unwittingly absorbed this and didn't know, thus we didn't cleanse ourselves psychically etc (grounding, centering, shielding etc) and got sick. Or like u said, our bodies reaction to being overloaded/stressed.
craftywytch 4 years ago
For instance, say u r empathetic, but didn't know. Fr childhood 2 adulthood all the energies/emotions/feelings u picked up fr others & never knew how 2 release it etc. This goes on for yrs. Then 1 day, u get sick, body can't take it. u become really sensitive 2 things, agony rips through all ur muscles,tendons,ligaments etc. Then u r diagnosed as having fibro. Could be coincidence, but with all the folks who r empathetic/pagan/spiritual etc, it seems like there r so many out there that have it.
craftywytch 4 years ago
I am an Aquarius so I am not all that empathetic (I don't think) and my twin sons are Pisces (and say they are very empathetic) but they don't have FM, so I am not sure if there is any correlation with FM and empathy. I am intuitive though, for whatever that's worth. (Was Christian, now pagan but don't think it has made any difference to my FM.)
domesne 4 years ago
Well i think that maybe ppl who are natural empaths etc, prolly have more of a likelyhood of having it (just my theory), that is not to say that everyone who is pagan or an empath will have fibro. Like here in canada, the highest population to have diabetes are the natives, not saying every single native has it, but statistically speaking, diabetes is more common in our population than in mainstream/non-native folks. So I thought maybe it was similar to the fibro connection.
craftywytch 4 years ago
I've had Fibromyalgia and Rheumatoid Arthritis for years. I did energy treatments for the RA; the counsellor said FM is sensitivity/allergy to fabric softeners (chemical toxins). When I tossed all perfumes & cleaners out it made a huge difference in fatigue and pain levels. If FM is chemical sensitivity it would explain CFS as a more severe version of allergies. I now recommend anyone with FM go non-toxic. (EFT can offer de-sensitizing but that takes time.)
domesne 4 years ago
Very informative! Thank you for sharing! I know that there's also a connection with one's sleep patterns too and a hormone/chemical that the body releases when they are in stage 4 sleep that repairs the tissues. Alot of ppl with fibro, don't get to stage 4 sleep, and end up feeling the effects. I think alot of things prolly contribute to this whole thing.
craftywytch 4 years ago
How interesting! I forgot about the sleep problems. I was diagnosed with "severe stress' (I thought I was having a nervous breakdown) by the doc about 3 yrs before the FM diagnosis: because I was not getting R.E.M. (rapid eye movement) sleep!
domesne 4 years ago
I think you're on to something . . . Is there a pagan ritual or herb that can give protection from fibromyalgia? . . . could it be some kind of curse or spell?
lunameatball 4 years ago
I don't think its a curse. I think perhaps ppl who are more empathetic etc could be more prone to developing it, perhaps because if we weren't taught at an early age to block or release the energies we pick up from others, we ended up carrying with us, I dunno. But i've heard of healers taking on ppl's pain, then having to get rid of it afterwards. So who knows. I think grounding, centering and shielding would prolly be important
craftywytch 4 years ago
I think it makes sense. Your feeling of the sunlight is being multiplied by the feeling others are getting around you and that might make the sensation worse than what is okay for the skin, etc.
Just my two cents.
-Matt
MattBrancher 4 years ago
thanks for sharing matt :) It's a definate possibly :)
craftywytch 4 years ago
I dunno if there is a connection and the reason I say this is that my mom has Fibro and I am pagan and I do not have it..although I can kinda guess what she is going through but in reality I would say that I have no idea. But if there is a connection I think that it would help me to better understand what my mom and everyone else who has this disease is going through.
AylaCale 4 years ago
yeah it was just a thought, it seems though that so many pagans i know have it or ppl who are empaths. I was thinking that maybe its just more common amoung this group of folks. Kinda like how diabetes is more common amoung native folks etc.
craftywytch 4 years ago
everybod slips sometimes with the language and its ok. Blessed Be
asm5493 4 years ago
lol thanks :)
craftywytch 4 years ago