@MrRoyalnash when does ur status have anything to do with ur skill ? thats like saying hopsin sucks bcuz hes pretty unknown meanwhile right now hell clean up any rapper in the game if ur talking lyrics
u cats no what else I DESPISED?! Free with her 'free givin twat to celebs just like her bean pole USE to be pretty b4 she "blew up" as a VJ successor the one half of the most annoying duo on TV and the WORST TV host EVER Roxci (she ain't been hot since her Maxim cover)& sitting there sleeping with any artist that give her attention even Fifth who I dont even LIKE as a personality said! Anyway in my EXPERIENCE girls are ILITERATE when it comes to lyrics&lyricist! EVEN if they rap FANS! thumbs up?
u cats no what else I DESPISED?! Free with her 'free givin twat to celebs just like her bean pole USE to be pretty b4 she "blew up" as a VJ successor the one half of the most annoying duo on TV and the WORST TV host EVER Roxci (she ain't been hot since her Maxim cover)& sitting there sleeping with any artist that give her attention even Fifth who I dont even LIKE as a personality said! Anyway in my EXPERIENCE girls are ILITERATE when it comes to lyrics&lyricist! EVEN if they rap FANS! thumbs up?
SEE AND YOU GOT ALL THESE METHOD MAN BUTT KISSERS MIXED WITH JOE BUDDEN HATERS B/C THE MAN SPEAKS HIS MIND AND IS A BIG MOUTH AND 'AGGITATOR' OF HIP HOP WHO YOU NEED TO BE MAD @IS OLDMAN ED BUGGER AND HIS TYPICAL TMZ GOSSPI RAG PRESSITUTE TYPE ATTITUDE TRYIN TO START STUFF. JOE DID NOT EVEN BRING UP METH ON THAT CONVO HE WAS TALKIN ABOUT THE LIST IN GENERAL AND HERE COME ED BEING LIKE, WHAT HE SAY > "SO U THINK U BETTER THAN METH" OR WATEVER. AND IM 31&FORGOT ABOUT COWBOY WHO CARES! SLAUGHTER H!
I cant really knock Joe Budden for speaking his mind because I see where's coming from & I do somewhat agree but because it's Method Man & Redman, 2 guys who came from legendary Rap crews(Wu-Tang & Def Squad) where you had to be nice & there had to be lyrical sparring sessions amongst themselves to stay sharp within their own circle & these 2 being the breakout stars & MCs of their cliques is what had ppl so heated about Joey's comments in my opinion! That's why Ed & Wu-Tang felt disrespected!
@Belize2787 NOW SEE I CAN GET WIT THAT! You were more "middle of the road" and CERtainly fair. What gets me is all these "Legend" but kissers and Meth but kissers. 2pac included there are WAYY - and this may even make YOU mad an I apologize but again its MY opinion - TOO man cats in rap are "legends" but EASILY AVERAGE rappers at BEST! EVEN Ed 'Old man' Bugger admitted that, I give 'Ed' some 'Luv' on that he schooled some of you younger cats by sayin Pac was NOT a lyricist! He was a personality
@WhiteMagicEnygma Pac was a deep poet & a great songwriter but listening to him spit on that Where Brooklyn At Freestyle, Biggie BODIED it! Jay, BIGGIE, & even Eminem in terms of Flow, Delivery & Wordplay is above 2pac to me! Not to take away from 2pac but it is what it is!
Fukk out of here, joey would def take his head off with LYRICS. if you think meth can beat him in a battle you better go blow job a knife. joey just stoped cause people took in the wrong image, SEE BUDDEN IN THE BOOTH!!
@thedoor! NOW thats what I"m talking about, The Door said it and by opening the door of this vid he shed some light on some of you "legend" slash Meth but kissers! Get off these peoples jock!! I LOVE Biggie and Jay Z, they happen to be my favorite rappers and they are actually HOT the former being the greatest of ALL time and if The Door disagrees I respect your opinion big homie, you're entitled. But Joey is not in a SUPERgroup called Slaughterhouse by accident. NO Wu member can see him says I!
@originaltamil meth's old shit & new shit doesnt compare to the lyrical and emotional talent that joe budden has. no disrespect to method man.. im a wu fan too but joey has him beat.
@Gaarlz ummmm no HOE NOTHIN has nothin on Method Man...you obviously arent a Wu fan either cause you dont know Meth for his music...Judgement Day 2000 beats "jump off" lol drills it into the pavement never to be seen again...where is Buddens album???? why he so broke talkin bout his ex bitches n makin drama LOL...Raekwon punched that pussy in the face...FUCK HIM..he was only nice wit Stack and Ransom n Clue..Ransom dont even like this clown..HE AINT REAL. Redman dnt fuck wit him either. jerz na
@originaltamil you know what people call you? a dickrider. lol, heres a tampon. the thing is anyone who has dissed him has lost. listen to blood on the wall and listen to prodigy die a slow painful death. if meth got on a track against joey "it would be bad for him" and thats why meth never got on a track against him. stop being so close minded wu & joey make 2 different styles of music.... & Raekwon never punched joe budden hes not that stupid. he had his man do it for him. dont be so ignorant.
@Gaarlz bro thats all you FAGOOT DUMBASSES CAN SAY...LOL DICKRYDER....NIGGA ARE YOU FUCKIN IN THE ASS NIGGA?? STRAIGHT NIGGAS DONT BRING THAT SHIT UP..WE NORMAL PEOPLE CALL IT BIASED...:s YOU A FAGGOT JUST STOP....METH > HOE THE STREETS KNOW...YOU A INDUSTRY "DICK RYDER" LOL FUCK OUTTA HERE GO DO CHORES FOR MOM.
@originaltamil no doubt i love meth as an artist, but you just contradicted yourself, method is way more involved in the industry, so if there an industry dick rider its any fan over budden, listen to mood muzik all of them, no industry involved. The whole point of the argument was being an mc not a rap artist.i think you just got meth's dick to far in the back of your throat, you can't think properly.
i think mcs should speak less and be less viral and get more into the booth.Put your thoughts on wax fuck twittering...what type of man twitters all day?
This was Joe Budden's opinion that he is better than Method Man, i dont see what wrong with that? if you do something you love doing and some one asks you do you think your better than them? of course your going to say "yea" because you confident in your craft, if Kobe was asked are you better than Lebron he's going to say "yea" and if Lebron was asked if he was better than Kobe he's going to say "yea"& thats it idk why Wu Tang and Busta was in this Beef. it was only between Joe & Method man
agreed, it wouldn't be Hip-Hop if you didn't think you were better than the top M.C. no one told KRS-ONE anything when he dissed M.C. Shan or when he served Melle Mel
@mikerupp17 have u heard method man recently dawg, u could luv hiz flow n hiz vocals all u ant but he cant fuck with joe buddens lines dawg, did u hear da cypher dis year? u not knowin
Talk About Listen To Some Of Joe Budden's Material.. GTFOH.. He's Nice Don't Get Me Wrong.. Go Listen To Tical.. Meth Was 1 Of The Premier Rappers On Def-Jam In The Golden Era. Joe's Opinion Is Joe's Opinion.. But Meth Was 1 Of The Dude The Notorious B.I.G. Respected On The Mic & Gave Son A Feature On His 1st Album. Name 3 Other Rap Features On Ready To Die?.. Joe Buddens #C'MON SON#....
@TheRealestout212 yeah thats why its called "evolution", Meth didnt come in the game blazing, he grew into that.. i bet you havent listened to Joey huh? "mental midget niggas"-- open ur mind nd listen.. nd i agree with Joey, put him in the booth with Meth TODAY nd he'll chew his ass up..
Foxy Brown didn't write her own lyrics? Whack. Same with Lil Kim. I don't respect the rappers who don't write their lyrics. That's why I say Lauryn HIll is the greatest female MC because you know she wrote her lyrics and they had some substance and fire.
Whining over a damn list like a little bitch. He's an idiot. Always calling out MCs for publicity. And if he actually thinks Meth could spit 32 bars right now and no one's face would change, go look up Wu Tang's freestyle on the Tim Westwood show. Meth was KILLING it and had my jaw dropping. Meth still has that tightest flow ever too. The labels are just doing our rap veterans dirty because of the southern rap domination. That's all. And 4:21 was actually a great album.
@90mv Meth is smart and knew what Joe Budden was trying to do. Trying to get publicity. Joe Budden picked like a dozen beefs with rappers before Meth. He's an opportunist and Meth saw that. Besides Meth was never the type to get into those rap wars. He's never been about that. Back in the day when members of his crew beefed with Biggy, he would still kick it with Big and stay out of the drama. Budden just looks like an asshole for picking a beef with one of the most laid back MCs.
Joe Buddens alright, I think Joellz much fuckin tighter. But dudes a fuckin drama baby. He just starts all this shit an runs off at the mouth, an then he got socked up an didnt do anythin cus he didnt have his big homies around to fight for him. An then he talks down about Joellz for not being a student of hip hop. Your the mofucka who had to be told who cowboy is
If u really listen to Joe Budden Lyrics dude is Sick..Hes rap lyrics is raw but heres the thing..Method Man is also Sick and raw too..I think Joe and Method is a perfect Battle but my opinion Method Man will get him hands down..
@Vokab1 Hell yeah Meth would get him even today. I would argue that it's about more than lyrics to be a great MC. It's about delivery too. How you say what you're saying and ride the beat. Joe Budden's delivery is average. Meth not only has clever lyrics but he has the tightest flow ever of any MC. Therefore, Method Man is a much more complete package as a rapper and would grab a listener much more.
Joe Budden on some clown shit "hip hop annoys me", THATS BECAUSE YOU'RE ABOUT AS HIP HOP AS THE BILL O REILLY SHOW YOU CLOWN ASS NIGGA. get off the phone and stop crying.
LMAOOO Joe budden is garbage compared to meth name a popular song besides pump it up and pop off u can't u know why cuz he's trash inspectah deck already destroyed him
@Bov1225 I know way more hip hop than u little boy go jump off a bridge Joe budden is not on meths level of all da ppl who didn't deserve to be on da list he chose method man anybody could tell thats jealousy when Joe was asked about redman his response was he didn't know but when they asked him about method he started going crazy that's jealousy homie open ya eyes
@MrAhgee This ain't 1999 anymore, bro. I have a lot of love for Meth but if we're talking today, Joey is in his prime and one of the illest lyricists in the game right now. Very few can see him right now.
@mufc187 please budden is so krony who realy knocks budden nobody in the streets lol budden aint never been bout shit a winner lol budden is a known dope fean lol thats what hes known fo in his hood look it up nigga is A SQAURE ASS LAME
@NWDAMU503 The fuck does any of that have to do with lyrical ability?
Also, you don't have to research to know he did drugs. He talks about it in his music, just like Eminem does and DMX did back in the day. If you think being a substance abuser has anything to do with your competence as an artists, you must think Marvin Gaye, James Brown and Diana Ross are lame, too.
If he's so shit, how come Kanye, Just Blaze, Fabolous, Pusha T and Styles P all hooked up with him on his mixtape?
@ Colemanton.... If ur such a fan of Wu Tang, why you gonna let him just take shots at Wu like that? He even took a shot at Ol' Dirty Bastard (R.I.P.)!! And Ol' Dirt was a genius!! He created a character that was basically stupid, and had him saying some incredible shit - like it was an accident!!
Tell you what... Joe gets credit for droppin some nice lyrics, but my niggaz get credit for shuttin clown-ass rappers up!!
Man people be talkin shit bout Joey, but i love it cuz datz his opinon datz how he feels if u dnt agree wit it then u dnt agree wit itdatz cool....datz ur opinion datz why baskin robbins has 32 flavors everybody likes something a lil bit different...stop gettin gassed by the media if u like Joey buy his shit and if like Meth buy his shit...both are very talented a dude like me will listen to 36 chambers then throw on some Mood Musik...stop seperating good musicians u just dnt have to like 1 .
@JDiZZ2Real if you knew anythin about hip hop you would know Joey lyrically wipes the floor with Meth TODAY and Joe actually is humble. but his opinion is his opinion and if he's asked about hes gonna give it plain and simple. thats why I'm a fan, thats why I respect him
Joe budden is straight garbage I've never seen this light skin bitch nigga have any album, and for him to bring METH into he's fuckin crazy. Method man is a icon in the rap game wu tang brought aggressive rap into hip hop and for budden to dog him and wu tang im glad reakwon snuffed him.
I could never say Joe B is wack man, that's just stupid of anyone to say in my opinion because lyrically he is tight, but him insulting Meth is just wrong, if he did.
I would love to see them have a battle, not dissing each other but 2 guys with a topic etc. spitting, that would be great to see, but Joe's people skills are sometimes crazy so he ruined it....Personally i think Canibus is the best Lyrically alive today in my opinion.
meth sux... he could never see joey, he fell allllll the way off, he hasnt even been the best in wu-tang ever.. he was like the brittney spears of the WU lol.
@SteadeeB did u just call ur OPINION of sell out joey jump off a FACT?!?! AHhahahaaha yeah thats a FAIL! lol Joey aight but stop Pump Pump Pump Pumping him up! Hahaha sell out commercial faggot had better luck doing that radio commercial shit. Do ur Thing Girl Do ur Thing! Hahahaha SELL OUT!!! no love for taht faggot shit. sorry kid :)
joe budden got some Balls, nobody is going around reciting joe buddens lyrics i dont even know a joe budden song, he never even got on or got a deal if he did get a deal he is the biggest flop ever what song went gold or platinum or silver he went mixtape!
joe buddens is a bitch mayne lil b ether him...i mean meth wouth kill u on wax and then get ghostface 2 finish him u aint even a factor broke ass niqah
Look at these old heads lol Next thing you kno slick rick is lyrically better then Jay-z matter of fact sugar hill gang murders wu-tang i mean come on they legends Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck outta here lol
Wtf are these young ass fukas posting on here talking about....Yall must have smoked too much ganja ...method man eeeeats Joe butthead any fukin day ...the shit he talks I'm sayin its him he's talkin about ..if he spits any bar I would not be impressed..I have listened to his underground Joe n all u can do is skim his shit to get to the real..Joe got punched too hard speaking this shit ..u think u would shut ya trap after the first asswhoop
I think People are biased and forgetting that this ended about two years ago. I have huge respect to both, but no one can talk to me about Joe Budden being wack. Are you people serious? Majority of People who said that have just listened to the Pump it Up or his first Album at that is it.
Listen to the Mood Muzik Series and I mean listen and not skim through it. He is lyrically one of the best Rappers out. Better yet listen to the song Dear Diary....
@Idrastikk i think that is bc Pump It Up its the only thing people listen to, keep in mind, Joe dissed anyone, 50 Cent, Game, Eminem and he now works for him, Method man, he has dissed a lot of guys, but he is now Humbled bc of how he feels....
I'm a huge wu tang fan first off...but if anyone gets on here and talks shit about joe they obviously have not heard any mood muzikz or the slaughterhouse material with or without eminem...joe really is one of the best lyricists in the game right now...and honestly he would give it to meth based on a lyrical standpoint
@colemananton You claim to be a "wu tang fan" but i can gurantee you just hopped on joe's dick ever since he put out that shit with em. Lyrically everyone in the wu tang is nicer than budden. They had a slang that was so profound and precise. Its just that dumbfucks like you don't understand that slang and would rathr listen to joe budden rap with his monotoned bullshit that would make any REAL HIP HOP ADVOCATE fall asleep.
Respond to this video... Its fuckin hilarious how all these liked posts have only evolved since budden did that shit with eminem. Probably none of the people on here praising JOE BUDDEN wer actually fans of his before that shaddy track. ALL YOU FUCKIN MAINSTREAM TROLLS CAN GO SUCK ON THAT BULLSHIT YOU HERE ON THE RADIO. FUCK OFF. YOU DONT KNOW HIP HOP WORTH SHIT TO COMPARE BUDDEN TO METH.
@colemananton you're kiddin right??? Method Man is one of the few dudes who can still spit a 32 free off the head. you tellin me budden that nice? get outta here with that shit, lyrically Meth would murder this dude. Joe's got bars but he got nothin on meth.
@ShadowXFX1 Dogg your crazy, you obviously don't listen to budden and have a bias opinion. Real Rap meth was nice as shit in his prime and unique joey even gives him that and doesn't take anything away from him BUT TODAY BUDDEN would own meth lyrically. NO CONTEST.
@Idrastikk Criticizing IS NOT an excuse, not "it is" lol. But your right; someone who goes "LOOOOOOOOL, I won this argument" or someone who spells people like "poeple",is at a young age with no understanding of anything. I seen the arguments, he hasn't beaten anything or anyone, all the LOOOOLS and LMAOOOOOs proves stupidity not dominance in an argument.
ol dirty bastard is one of the best... its impossible to make a top 5 list for me because i have so many favourites.. but dirtys name shouldnt have been in little joeys mouth......
@PACSUM1 Meth has collaborated with Pac biggie Mary j blige lauryn hill mobb deep nas DMX llcool j limp bizkit dangelo and ginuwine who has Joe budden collaborated with nobody know why cuz he's WACK and nobody knows him or likes him go jump on Da subway tracks you joe budden fanboy
@Pacsum your an ignorant fan who refuses to listen to logic and ya argument is as good as Joe buddens rap which is garbage Joe budden will never be looked as one of Da best in hip hop cuz he sucks he's always running his mouth and whining like a little b!tch cuz he wasn't high enough on Da list and u clearly have no life everytime I check my mail it's always u responding your probably a fat loser who sits in his bed on his laptop eating cheese doodles
@Pacsum please tell me ya joking you always tryna explain how Joe budden is explaining something how grammies Don't mean SH!t so u telling me Pac and biggie winning won means nothing Joe budden is a nobody I bet if he one he be saying different Joe budden is garbage
lol joe budden cried after he got punched by a wu tang members killa beez will end up fuckin u up better not tour anymore cuz u will get fucked up wu tang is the illest who is budden? a lame ass underground rapper ur flows are wack compared to wu 2pac is not a even a problem poets are not phenomenal rappers they are poets joe u got ur ass beat by wu leave it alone
@Pacsum nah homie I comprehend just fine and yes meth being on both those tracks does show he's better and winning Grammys also justify that and btw da Remarks you made to Idrastikk just show that ya a Fanboy who clearly knows Nothing about hip hop
@Pacsum exactly you can't name a bigger collaboration because Joe budden is WACK nobody wants him that's why def jam Benched him even Ed lover thought he was wrong when he said he was better than method man meths albums has went platinum while Joe buddens barely went gold it's obvious your a Joe budden fanboy who still listening to pump it up method man will always be better than Joe budden face it da whole def jam knows it that's why they was all on his side when it happened
@PACSMUM1 When I said I have a life, I meant I'm not always at the Computer Screen.
This is my last post to you. You talk about Debate, yet don't bother to read my comments. I know I have put loads. Someone who doesn't take pride in their spelling and saying that criticizing it is an excuse, is not going achieve nothing in life.
If you want to talk about "win" or "lose" you lost my mere stupidity. At the end of the day, I will move on and you will still be arguing on the Internet.
@PACSMUM1 I WILL keep on mentioning you on about something that happened two years ago, because it is so stupid. It makes no sense.
I don't know how old you are because you keep saying "I won" "Give up" like it is a game or something. Obviously you have a low level of maturity. Won what? Give up what.
@PACSMUM1 So yes I criticized your spelling, because I don't see how anyone can take you seriously. Does that make me an English Teacher, because clearly you have never had one? Why else are you going on about a Teacher. Am I allowed to not criticize?
I mentioned your Hip Hop Knowledge because you said you hate Wu-Tang Fans with 0% knowledge but that's ironic since have never listened to Method Man.
@PACSMUM1 I respect Joe and Meth, which I have stated many times. You hate Wu-Tang fans just because they do not like Joe. I am neutral having liked both Artists, you talk about me losing, but you clearly haven't made a point on why I have lost.
So again what are you debating about? I can like both Artists if I want to, you want to argue about Joe Budden. I guarentee you haven't even listened to enough Joe Budden.
@PACSMUM1 Your the one saying "Method Man is getting props over Budden and Big and Pac made his Career" . I stated some facts about Method Man's Career but you were too stupid to even read. Then you say "So what if it was two years ago". You came on here looking for argument. I said were not debating because every point I made was yesterday and you didn't even look.
@PACSMUM1 The thing is were not even debating and I do have neutral comments because I like both Artists. Your paranoia is evident and your life seems to be on Youtube. You remind me of WeezyJColeFan, your ego is too big to say you won a "debate" even though People are not debating.
This Method Man and Joe beef has obviously bothered you to a degree since you want to keep on arguing. You have beef with the Wu- Tang fans? What are you debating about.
@PACSMUM1 Sorry if I didn't reply sooner, I actually have a Life. Yes I like Joe Budden and Method Man so having neutral comments isn't "screaming" for thumbs up.
You really cannot talk about Hip Hop Knowledge since you don't have any common sense. I'm not perfecting my grammar because it isn't and has never been perfect, I misspell words and miss out them, but it is a whole lot better than yours.
@PACSMUM1 I would, but for someone who is on the Internet arguing about an incident that occured two years ago, I have to say no. I respect both Artists and love their Albums and I don't see why you are so hostile towards the Wu-Tang Clan. I guarentee I have listened to more Joe Budden than you.
I have to talk about Grammar because of the way you write, you instantly lose credibility to me.
@PACSMUM1 Rip me apart? Your claims are about as good as your grammar. If you bothered to read my first post you would know I said that Joe Budden is better lyrically that Method Man, but Method Man has more respect in the Hip Hop Community and will ALWAYS be legendary.
Second if want to talk about Albums and getting "props" you would know that Method Man gets more recognition.
Third you were stupid enough to say Big and Pac made him, when you obviously haven't listened to Tical.
@PACSMUM1 You need to grow up. You obviously haven't read ALL my Comments. How did you win this "battle" explain?
The Joe and Method Man beef ended two years ago, where have you been? You are acting like it just happened. Read ALL my Comments before replying. You must be a little kid. "I won, I won" hit puberty and then talk.
@Pacsum you still avoiding Da question lol name bigger collaborations than PAC and biggie and they didn't do meth a favor by putting him on a track they put him on Da track cuz they recognized Da talent he had Joe budden is known for two songs lmao he's not on meths level his albums are garbage and like I said Before nobody FUGKING Knows him
@PACSMUM1 In 1994 B.I.G and Method Man released their Debut Albums. Biggie's was more popular with having 4x Platinum Certification but in the same year, Method Man's Album went Platinum and his single "Bring the Pain" was extremely popular, you must be idiotic.
@PACSMUM1 Big and Pac made his career? Are you really that stupid?
You must be one of the most ignorant People I've heard. You obviously never heard of Method Man's Solo Album "Tical" an influential Album and known as one of the Classic East Coast Albums. Yes I had to talk about Albums because you said Big and Pac made his Career?
@PACSMUM1 You need to stop being a stan. I'm a fan of Joe Budden AND Wu-Tang Clan. I will say this Joe Budden is better than Method Man lyrically - that's as honest as I came be. I listened to his Studio Albums, Digital Albums and Mixtapes, BUT Method Man has much more respect in the Hip Hop Community, not just by me but by many.
@Pacsum well its beef cuz both didn't agree Joe budden isn't better than meth even Ed lova disagreed with him when he said that listen to da interview and it's funny how u still advoided da question I asked u about naming a bigger collaboration then PAC and biggie you know why because Joe budden songs suck he had about two hits who da he'll is he to try to decide who should be on da list like inspectah deck Said nobody Fugking knows him
@Legendary081 then they go into the lame group eminem's fuking sucks now, so as joe budden, great artist is the one that have consistency, i don't give a shyt about a short term skills.
Today, lyrically Joe Budden is better than any member of Wu. Hands down. RZA was just on So Appalled and got shined on by everybody on there including Cyhi. He had 6 lines and that was it. But like everyone else said, Wu was that shit in the '90's. It's progression. Shut up and deal with it.
@Smoketillmy: ya i agree that things progress but when its all said and done,u gotta measure these artists by their bodies of work.. will Budden have a solo LP as good as Cuban Linx,Liquid swords,Ironman,Bobby Digital,etc? will any group he's in have a better release than 36chambers or wu tang forever?? in their heighth of popularity,Wu was bigger than Buddens highest level now... but u right,Budden is definitely bringin it these days.... Slaughterhouse is ill as fuck
@626SupremeLogic I'm not disagreeing. When it comes to notoriety, Wu. Lyrically, Joe. You gotta think that back then Wu pretty much what Hip Hop was looking for with a twist. Joey isn't what is popular in Hip Hop because his lyrics go over your head. Substance over swagger isn't the case anymore. He's the realest, most honest emcee and people can't respect that. They want fast cars and bad bitches. Not Ordinary love shit and Secrets. They're both two different types of artist you can't compare.
Name me two Joe budden songs besides pump it up and pop off I guarantee u you would have a problem if Joe budden such a good mc name an award he won, name me a bigger collaboration than PAC and biggie
@JDiZZ2Real Keep on, downfall, Ayo, 40/40,.... dude, budden makes tons of great songs. do some research dude. check out Classified featuring joe budden- unusual
@Pacsum there was beef cuz Joe budden said he was better than meth and not only Joe budden jealous of meth Success he's also a coward for wanting to squash beef and admit he was wrong when def jam and wu was coming at his neck tell me this what has Joe budden done since def jam benched him? Meth would out rhyme and end joes career if they ever battled he should be happy meth spared him
Joe budden is jealous of method man clearly Joe budden even said at one point in his career he tried to be like meth why would Joe admit that if he really thought he was better than method man Joe know he was outta line and that's why when da wu and busta rhymes and redman got at him he chose to squash da beef and apologize
@pacsum ok so why do u think method man has better sales in Da first place I mean yeah everbody likes him but I'm sure that isn't da only reason why is albums have sold million worldwide it's his raw style and sick flow delivery and Joe never actually issued a challenge to meth he just tried to diss him and when meth told him to come see him face to face he wanted to squash Da beef funny when da whole def jam and wu was on his neck he wanted to end da beef isn't it
@Legendary081 In your fantasy world... You guys is just notalgic, and it seems that you have problems facing the fact that Wus time is OVER. Each Slaughter member is way better than the random member in Wu.
@Pacsum and wu tang is only a fraction of what meth has done and if meth was in da brand new car as I spoke of do u really think Joe budden would be overlapping him when his sales and lyrics are nowhere on meths level joebudden only had a few good hits. One verse from meth is better than joe burdens entire album
@Pacsum I think it's funny how u actually believe Joe budden is better than method man and its not one lyric he was famous for on biggies track it was his verses of pure greatness also did u happen to hear got my mind made up by TUPAC yup that's right another huge collaboration know why cuz he's one of the best to be both on TUPAC and biggies album is saying something cuz biggie and PAC didn't get along so for PAC to include him would show u that meth is one of da best
@Legendary081 "Who gives a fuck if they are old???They are still monsters."
No, that's the thing. They WERE monsters back in the 90s. But in the modern day Slaugherhouse is better and it's not even something odd. It's called development.
@ExadusTV Aren't relevant to Hip Hop? They will always be relevant, BECAUSE of the influential Albums they put out, as a group or individually. Ever since "Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers)" they have been known to inspire. They may not Rap in the Mainstream anymore but are still remembered to this day.
GZA, Ghostface Killah and Raekwon have all done Classical Albums.
@ExadusTV Wu makes the dopest tracks out there, almost every hip hop artist you love was inspired by Wu Tang. Spit a flow as good as Deck or GZa..then call 'em irelevant...
@Legendary081 You still don't get it do you? WU are tired and old. Slaughterhouse is more hungry than ever. Crooked and Royce alone, can rap circles around every member in WU.
It doesn't matter if WU have made classics for 15 years ago. TODAY slaughterhouse is a better rap group. And thats only because music is an artform that that constantly evolve.
Budden is in his prime. Even though this vid is from 09, Slaugherhouse is more hungry than ever, Wich Method Man isn't today. When you lived on your passion (hip-hop in this case) for over ten years, you are pretty worn, however. With the exception of people like Jay-Z and Eminem has no weakness in their careers at all.
Method could out rap Joe budden on any given night just cuz someone doesn't make a album or song doesn't mean they still can't spit that's like saying I had a brand new car and I decided not to drive for a few days does that mean I can't drive? No just that I would like to take a break same thing with meth he's done so much joe budden can't compare
Method could out rap Joe budden on any given night just cuz someone doesn't make a album or song doesn't mean they still can't spit that's like saying I had a brand new cat and I decided not to drive for a few days does that mean I can't drive? No just that I would like to take a break same thing with meth he's done so much joe budden can't compare
joe budden you a nobody. just another mixtape rapper
MrRoyalnash 1 day ago
@MrRoyalnash when does ur status have anything to do with ur skill ? thats like saying hopsin sucks bcuz hes pretty unknown meanwhile right now hell clean up any rapper in the game if ur talking lyrics
johnnnyoh 1 day ago
This bitch Joe Budden needs smacked.
wickedwu22 2 days ago
Who beefs with Method man? Joe butthole is a bitch!!!!!!
bonerface666 5 days ago
So what list are they talkin' about??? Does anybody know what it's called?
ChickenNeedsLickin 1 week ago
Method man is one of the sickest mc's I've ever heard!
theyoozernaim 1 week ago 3
Joe, u shoulda got knocked tha f*ck out 4 talkin' like that.
rapperdoom 1 week ago
BUDDEN IS WACK
STEVENNEIDLEIN1 1 week ago 4
@STEVENNEIDLEIN1 You stupid
Xile108 2 days ago
LoL
TomCatSwag 3 weeks ago
u cats no what else I DESPISED?! Free with her 'free givin twat to celebs just like her bean pole USE to be pretty b4 she "blew up" as a VJ successor the one half of the most annoying duo on TV and the WORST TV host EVER Roxci (she ain't been hot since her Maxim cover)& sitting there sleeping with any artist that give her attention even Fifth who I dont even LIKE as a personality said! Anyway in my EXPERIENCE girls are ILITERATE when it comes to lyrics&lyricist! EVEN if they rap FANS! thumbs up?
WhiteMagicEnygma 3 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
u cats no what else I DESPISED?! Free with her 'free givin twat to celebs just like her bean pole USE to be pretty b4 she "blew up" as a VJ successor the one half of the most annoying duo on TV and the WORST TV host EVER Roxci (she ain't been hot since her Maxim cover)& sitting there sleeping with any artist that give her attention even Fifth who I dont even LIKE as a personality said! Anyway in my EXPERIENCE girls are ILITERATE when it comes to lyrics&lyricist! EVEN if they rap FANS! thumbs up?
WhiteMagicEnygma 3 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
SEE AND YOU GOT ALL THESE METHOD MAN BUTT KISSERS MIXED WITH JOE BUDDEN HATERS B/C THE MAN SPEAKS HIS MIND AND IS A BIG MOUTH AND 'AGGITATOR' OF HIP HOP WHO YOU NEED TO BE MAD @IS OLDMAN ED BUGGER AND HIS TYPICAL TMZ GOSSPI RAG PRESSITUTE TYPE ATTITUDE TRYIN TO START STUFF. JOE DID NOT EVEN BRING UP METH ON THAT CONVO HE WAS TALKIN ABOUT THE LIST IN GENERAL AND HERE COME ED BEING LIKE, WHAT HE SAY > "SO U THINK U BETTER THAN METH" OR WATEVER. AND IM 31&FORGOT ABOUT COWBOY WHO CARES! SLAUGHTER H!
WhiteMagicEnygma 3 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
I cant really knock Joe Budden for speaking his mind because I see where's coming from & I do somewhat agree but because it's Method Man & Redman, 2 guys who came from legendary Rap crews(Wu-Tang & Def Squad) where you had to be nice & there had to be lyrical sparring sessions amongst themselves to stay sharp within their own circle & these 2 being the breakout stars & MCs of their cliques is what had ppl so heated about Joey's comments in my opinion! That's why Ed & Wu-Tang felt disrespected!
Belize2787 3 weeks ago
@Belize2787 NOW SEE I CAN GET WIT THAT! You were more "middle of the road" and CERtainly fair. What gets me is all these "Legend" but kissers and Meth but kissers. 2pac included there are WAYY - and this may even make YOU mad an I apologize but again its MY opinion - TOO man cats in rap are "legends" but EASILY AVERAGE rappers at BEST! EVEN Ed 'Old man' Bugger admitted that, I give 'Ed' some 'Luv' on that he schooled some of you younger cats by sayin Pac was NOT a lyricist! He was a personality
WhiteMagicEnygma 3 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
@WhiteMagicEnygma Pac was a deep poet & a great songwriter but listening to him spit on that Where Brooklyn At Freestyle, Biggie BODIED it! Jay, BIGGIE, & even Eminem in terms of Flow, Delivery & Wordplay is above 2pac to me! Not to take away from 2pac but it is what it is!
Belize2787 3 weeks ago
@Belize2787 ya had a good point till ya mentioned eminem then ya totally fucked yaself over get a life you fuckin loser
TheAussieraver 3 weeks ago
@Belize2787 all those will be trashed by Immortal Technique or even k-Rino
TAHOKMUSIC 3 weeks ago
@Belize2787 You're right...people hate on Em for the wrong reasons.
wickedwu22 2 days ago
Fuck that: You punch me in the face and you automatically get ROCKED.
MyDogBrownie 4 weeks ago
Fukk out of here, joey would def take his head off with LYRICS. if you think meth can beat him in a battle you better go blow job a knife. joey just stoped cause people took in the wrong image, SEE BUDDEN IN THE BOOTH!!
thedoortoolight 1 month ago
@thedoor! NOW thats what I"m talking about, The Door said it and by opening the door of this vid he shed some light on some of you "legend" slash Meth but kissers! Get off these peoples jock!! I LOVE Biggie and Jay Z, they happen to be my favorite rappers and they are actually HOT the former being the greatest of ALL time and if The Door disagrees I respect your opinion big homie, you're entitled. But Joey is not in a SUPERgroup called Slaughterhouse by accident. NO Wu member can see him says I!
WhiteMagicEnygma 3 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
Got known overnight for niggas fucking his wife
Got bust in the eyesight and still wouldn't fight... SNM.
avoidglass 1 month ago
no method man in this clip nerds!
rfk2z 1 month ago
candance?
ionmyke 1 month ago
hes not better than meth
originaltamil 1 month ago
@originaltamil meth's old shit & new shit doesnt compare to the lyrical and emotional talent that joe budden has. no disrespect to method man.. im a wu fan too but joey has him beat.
Gaarlz 1 month ago
@Gaarlz ummmm no HOE NOTHIN has nothin on Method Man...you obviously arent a Wu fan either cause you dont know Meth for his music...Judgement Day 2000 beats "jump off" lol drills it into the pavement never to be seen again...where is Buddens album???? why he so broke talkin bout his ex bitches n makin drama LOL...Raekwon punched that pussy in the face...FUCK HIM..he was only nice wit Stack and Ransom n Clue..Ransom dont even like this clown..HE AINT REAL. Redman dnt fuck wit him either. jerz na
originaltamil 1 month ago
@originaltamil you know what people call you? a dickrider. lol, heres a tampon. the thing is anyone who has dissed him has lost. listen to blood on the wall and listen to prodigy die a slow painful death. if meth got on a track against joey "it would be bad for him" and thats why meth never got on a track against him. stop being so close minded wu & joey make 2 different styles of music.... & Raekwon never punched joe budden hes not that stupid. he had his man do it for him. dont be so ignorant.
Gaarlz 1 month ago
@Gaarlz bro thats all you FAGOOT DUMBASSES CAN SAY...LOL DICKRYDER....NIGGA ARE YOU FUCKIN IN THE ASS NIGGA?? STRAIGHT NIGGAS DONT BRING THAT SHIT UP..WE NORMAL PEOPLE CALL IT BIASED...:s YOU A FAGGOT JUST STOP....METH > HOE THE STREETS KNOW...YOU A INDUSTRY "DICK RYDER" LOL FUCK OUTTA HERE GO DO CHORES FOR MOM.
originaltamil 1 month ago
@originaltamil no doubt i love meth as an artist, but you just contradicted yourself, method is way more involved in the industry, so if there an industry dick rider its any fan over budden, listen to mood muzik all of them, no industry involved. The whole point of the argument was being an mc not a rap artist.i think you just got meth's dick to far in the back of your throat, you can't think properly.
g3tdownorlaydwn 1 month ago
you need lyrics but you also need good flow,delivery,mic presense,and song writing ability..
julioholderbusiness 2 months ago
i think mcs should speak less and be less viral and get more into the booth.Put your thoughts on wax fuck twittering...what type of man twitters all day?
julioholderbusiness 2 months ago
Joe better protect his neck
HydroDaGreat 2 months ago
How manny paid for meth last album?
kef34567 2 months ago
This was Joe Budden's opinion that he is better than Method Man, i dont see what wrong with that? if you do something you love doing and some one asks you do you think your better than them? of course your going to say "yea" because you confident in your craft, if Kobe was asked are you better than Lebron he's going to say "yea" and if Lebron was asked if he was better than Kobe he's going to say "yea"& thats it idk why Wu Tang and Busta was in this Beef. it was only between Joe & Method man
richrichard350 2 months ago 2
@richrichard350
agreed, it wouldn't be Hip-Hop if you didn't think you were better than the top M.C. no one told KRS-ONE anything when he dissed M.C. Shan or when he served Melle Mel
Sentinel2k1 2 months ago
@richrichard350 Son but this isnt fucking kobe and lebron this is more like Kobe being Method Man verses Joe Budden being Devin Harris
mikerupp17 1 month ago
@mikerupp17smh you really didn't read clearly what i said
richrichard350 1 month ago
@mikerupp17 have u heard method man recently dawg, u could luv hiz flow n hiz vocals all u ant but he cant fuck with joe buddens lines dawg, did u hear da cypher dis year? u not knowin
hamatela 1 month ago
Talk About Listen To Some Of Joe Budden's Material.. GTFOH.. He's Nice Don't Get Me Wrong.. Go Listen To Tical.. Meth Was 1 Of The Premier Rappers On Def-Jam In The Golden Era. Joe's Opinion Is Joe's Opinion.. But Meth Was 1 Of The Dude The Notorious B.I.G. Respected On The Mic & Gave Son A Feature On His 1st Album. Name 3 Other Rap Features On Ready To Die?.. Joe Buddens #C'MON SON#....
AirPegasus777 2 months ago
I don't care if he's talented.... Joe budden is a fuckwit. How dare he claim he can put it over the likes of red and meth.... get fucked!
streetartsupplies 2 months ago
RIP TO ODB!!!!
TheRealestout212 2 months ago
joe budden is garbage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LETS BE REAL METH. BEEN IN THE GAME SINCE THE 90'S!! WHERE WAS YOU AT BUDDEN YOU WAS A NOBODY! point blank
TheRealestout212 2 months ago
@TheRealestout212 yeah thats why its called "evolution", Meth didnt come in the game blazing, he grew into that.. i bet you havent listened to Joey huh? "mental midget niggas"-- open ur mind nd listen.. nd i agree with Joey, put him in the booth with Meth TODAY nd he'll chew his ass up..
CharliePaperz 2 months ago
I remember when Free used to rap with Canibus. I miss those days. Sigh...
VenVile 2 months ago
@VenVile CANIBUS IS THEEE king Of LyrICISM!!
TheRealestout212 2 months ago
Joe Budden is an idiot. He made an opinion, and stated it as a fact. LMFAO!
VenVile 2 months ago
Foxy Brown didn't write her own lyrics? Whack. Same with Lil Kim. I don't respect the rappers who don't write their lyrics. That's why I say Lauryn HIll is the greatest female MC because you know she wrote her lyrics and they had some substance and fire.
Tigerlily21 2 months ago
Whining over a damn list like a little bitch. He's an idiot. Always calling out MCs for publicity. And if he actually thinks Meth could spit 32 bars right now and no one's face would change, go look up Wu Tang's freestyle on the Tim Westwood show. Meth was KILLING it and had my jaw dropping. Meth still has that tightest flow ever too. The labels are just doing our rap veterans dirty because of the southern rap domination. That's all. And 4:21 was actually a great album.
Tigerlily21 2 months ago
I don't think meth wanted it
90mv 2 months ago
@90mv Meth is smart and knew what Joe Budden was trying to do. Trying to get publicity. Joe Budden picked like a dozen beefs with rappers before Meth. He's an opportunist and Meth saw that. Besides Meth was never the type to get into those rap wars. He's never been about that. Back in the day when members of his crew beefed with Biggy, he would still kick it with Big and stay out of the drama. Budden just looks like an asshole for picking a beef with one of the most laid back MCs.
Tigerlily21 2 months ago
Joe Buddens alright, I think Joellz much fuckin tighter. But dudes a fuckin drama baby. He just starts all this shit an runs off at the mouth, an then he got socked up an didnt do anythin cus he didnt have his big homies around to fight for him. An then he talks down about Joellz for not being a student of hip hop. Your the mofucka who had to be told who cowboy is
hiphopmonsta314 3 months ago
If u really listen to Joe Budden Lyrics dude is Sick..Hes rap lyrics is raw but heres the thing..Method Man is also Sick and raw too..I think Joe and Method is a perfect Battle but my opinion Method Man will get him hands down..
Vokab1 3 months ago
@Vokab1 Hell yeah Meth would get him even today. I would argue that it's about more than lyrics to be a great MC. It's about delivery too. How you say what you're saying and ride the beat. Joe Budden's delivery is average. Meth not only has clever lyrics but he has the tightest flow ever of any MC. Therefore, Method Man is a much more complete package as a rapper and would grab a listener much more.
Tigerlily21 2 months ago
Joe Budden on some clown shit "hip hop annoys me", THATS BECAUSE YOU'RE ABOUT AS HIP HOP AS THE BILL O REILLY SHOW YOU CLOWN ASS NIGGA. get off the phone and stop crying.
BeenaBee 3 months ago
@PACSMUM1 y r u puting budden in that list lol most overated nigga ever
NWDAMU503 3 months ago
LMAOOO Joe budden is garbage compared to meth name a popular song besides pump it up and pop off u can't u know why cuz he's trash inspectah deck already destroyed him
JDiZZ2Real 3 months ago
@Bov1225 I know way more hip hop than u little boy go jump off a bridge Joe budden is not on meths level of all da ppl who didn't deserve to be on da list he chose method man anybody could tell thats jealousy when Joe was asked about redman his response was he didn't know but when they asked him about method he started going crazy that's jealousy homie open ya eyes
JDiZZ2Real 3 months ago
joe budden is raw but his rappin voice is wack!!!!!
soulsodeep1 3 months ago
I love Meth but he can't fuck with Joey lyrically.
mufc187 3 months ago
@mufc187 nah
MrAhgee 3 months ago
@MrAhgee This ain't 1999 anymore, bro. I have a lot of love for Meth but if we're talking today, Joey is in his prime and one of the illest lyricists in the game right now. Very few can see him right now.
mufc187 3 months ago
@mufc187 please budden is so krony who realy knocks budden nobody in the streets lol budden aint never been bout shit a winner lol budden is a known dope fean lol thats what hes known fo in his hood look it up nigga is A SQAURE ASS LAME
NWDAMU503 3 months ago
@NWDAMU503 The fuck does any of that have to do with lyrical ability?
Also, you don't have to research to know he did drugs. He talks about it in his music, just like Eminem does and DMX did back in the day. If you think being a substance abuser has anything to do with your competence as an artists, you must think Marvin Gaye, James Brown and Diana Ross are lame, too.
If he's so shit, how come Kanye, Just Blaze, Fabolous, Pusha T and Styles P all hooked up with him on his mixtape?
Ignorant.
mufc187 3 months ago
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@ Colemanton.... If ur such a fan of Wu Tang, why you gonna let him just take shots at Wu like that? He even took a shot at Ol' Dirty Bastard (R.I.P.)!! And Ol' Dirt was a genius!! He created a character that was basically stupid, and had him saying some incredible shit - like it was an accident!!
Tell you what... Joe gets credit for droppin some nice lyrics, but my niggaz get credit for shuttin clown-ass rappers up!!
phillysownmadtv 3 months ago
Man people be talkin shit bout Joey, but i love it cuz datz his opinon datz how he feels if u dnt agree wit it then u dnt agree wit itdatz cool....datz ur opinion datz why baskin robbins has 32 flavors everybody likes something a lil bit different...stop gettin gassed by the media if u like Joey buy his shit and if like Meth buy his shit...both are very talented a dude like me will listen to 36 chambers then throw on some Mood Musik...stop seperating good musicians u just dnt have to like 1 .
Bimmacmiane 3 months ago
@Bobbylytee finally somebody who lnows hip hop thank u
JDiZZ2Real 3 months ago
@Pacsum if u knew about hip hop u would know that Joe budden is nowhere on meths level and is just speaking out of jealousy
JDiZZ2Real 3 months ago
@JDiZZ2Real if you knew anythin about hip hop you would know Joey lyrically wipes the floor with Meth TODAY and Joe actually is humble. but his opinion is his opinion and if he's asked about hes gonna give it plain and simple. thats why I'm a fan, thats why I respect him
Bov1225 3 months ago
JOE BUDDEN IS DAT SHIT IM FROM ATL GA AND I LOVE DA NEW SHIT JOE GOT SLAUGHTERHOUSE SHIT IS SICK AS FUCK
DonVcorly 3 months ago
Joe budden is straight garbage I've never seen this light skin bitch nigga have any album, and for him to bring METH into he's fuckin crazy. Method man is a icon in the rap game wu tang brought aggressive rap into hip hop and for budden to dog him and wu tang im glad reakwon snuffed him.
Bobbylytee 3 months ago
Joe is cool.....but Meth is a legend go listen to The What or Rap Phenomenon both feat. B.I.G
They aint even comparable be fuckin real about this shit!
HenchMc 3 months ago
@HenchMc what list they talking about
DoubleFeo 3 months ago
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HenchMc 3 months ago
I could never say Joe B is wack man, that's just stupid of anyone to say in my opinion because lyrically he is tight, but him insulting Meth is just wrong, if he did.
I would love to see them have a battle, not dissing each other but 2 guys with a topic etc. spitting, that would be great to see, but Joe's people skills are sometimes crazy so he ruined it....Personally i think Canibus is the best Lyrically alive today in my opinion.
coates27 3 months ago
meth sux... he could never see joey, he fell allllll the way off, he hasnt even been the best in wu-tang ever.. he was like the brittney spears of the WU lol.
TEAMLEXUS 4 months ago in playlist joe budden
ok... calm down.. Joe is good... but he ain't meth.
silvastian 4 months ago
@silvastian hes much better then meth
SteadeeB 3 months ago
@SteadeeB I disagree
silvastian 3 months ago
@silvastian lyrically its fact....u can argue u that u likemeths flow more and stuff....but bar for bar joe is amazing
SteadeeB 3 months ago
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@SteadeeB did u just call ur OPINION of sell out joey jump off a FACT?!?! AHhahahaaha yeah thats a FAIL! lol Joey aight but stop Pump Pump Pump Pumping him up! Hahaha sell out commercial faggot had better luck doing that radio commercial shit. Do ur Thing Girl Do ur Thing! Hahahaha SELL OUT!!! no love for taht faggot shit. sorry kid :)
mylesdu 3 months ago
aye joe is better then method
yungngangsta 4 months ago
yall need to good listen to some joe budden now and tell me what yall think
yungngangsta 4 months ago
joe budden got some Balls, nobody is going around reciting joe buddens lyrics i dont even know a joe budden song, he never even got on or got a deal if he did get a deal he is the biggest flop ever what song went gold or platinum or silver he went mixtape!
ConsciousWorld 4 months ago
where's this list? i wanna see it
TheHiddenAnswer 4 months ago
where's this list? i wanna see it
TheHiddenAnswer 4 months ago
Oh joe you need to be quiet now.
tuchesuavae 4 months ago
Hey, that's how he felt. lol, I dig joe budden, but he damn sure wouldn't have said that about Ghost face.
millfordsange 4 months ago
joe buddens is a bitch mayne lil b ether him...i mean meth wouth kill u on wax and then get ghostface 2 finish him u aint even a factor broke ass niqah
daman12355 5 months ago
Look at these old heads lol Next thing you kno slick rick is lyrically better then Jay-z matter of fact sugar hill gang murders wu-tang i mean come on they legends Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck outta here lol
ward23 5 months ago
Wtf are these young ass fukas posting on here talking about....Yall must have smoked too much ganja ...method man eeeeats Joe butthead any fukin day ...the shit he talks I'm sayin its him he's talkin about ..if he spits any bar I would not be impressed..I have listened to his underground Joe n all u can do is skim his shit to get to the real..Joe got punched too hard speaking this shit ..u think u would shut ya trap after the first asswhoop
doowop691981 5 months ago
JOEYY!!!! is too fucking good! you think other wise SUCK DICK NIGGA
OurCloudNine 5 months ago
I think People are biased and forgetting that this ended about two years ago. I have huge respect to both, but no one can talk to me about Joe Budden being wack. Are you people serious? Majority of People who said that have just listened to the Pump it Up or his first Album at that is it.
Listen to the Mood Muzik Series and I mean listen and not skim through it. He is lyrically one of the best Rappers out. Better yet listen to the song Dear Diary....
Idrastikk 5 months ago 23
@Idrastikk dude im glad im not the only 1 who knows
SteadeeB 3 months ago
@Idrastikk i think that is bc Pump It Up its the only thing people listen to, keep in mind, Joe dissed anyone, 50 Cent, Game, Eminem and he now works for him, Method man, he has dissed a lot of guys, but he is now Humbled bc of how he feels....
SamaraiMonster 3 months ago
@SamaraiMonster please listen to his album... dude nice bruh.. and dont go off record sales because you dont see any of the money
juice8104 3 months ago
I'm a huge wu tang fan first off...but if anyone gets on here and talks shit about joe they obviously have not heard any mood muzikz or the slaughterhouse material with or without eminem...joe really is one of the best lyricists in the game right now...and honestly he would give it to meth based on a lyrical standpoint
colemananton 5 months ago 7
@colemananton Logical man right here
ward23 5 months ago
@colemananton yo you cant compare meths flow with this homo and thats a fact
Smokinpurple86 5 months ago
@colemananton You claim to be a "wu tang fan" but i can gurantee you just hopped on joe's dick ever since he put out that shit with em. Lyrically everyone in the wu tang is nicer than budden. They had a slang that was so profound and precise. Its just that dumbfucks like you don't understand that slang and would rathr listen to joe budden rap with his monotoned bullshit that would make any REAL HIP HOP ADVOCATE fall asleep.
aerez619 2 months ago
Respond to this video... Its fuckin hilarious how all these liked posts have only evolved since budden did that shit with eminem. Probably none of the people on here praising JOE BUDDEN wer actually fans of his before that shaddy track. ALL YOU FUCKIN MAINSTREAM TROLLS CAN GO SUCK ON THAT BULLSHIT YOU HERE ON THE RADIO. FUCK OFF. YOU DONT KNOW HIP HOP WORTH SHIT TO COMPARE BUDDEN TO METH.
aerez619 2 months ago
@colemananton you're kiddin right??? Method Man is one of the few dudes who can still spit a 32 free off the head. you tellin me budden that nice? get outta here with that shit, lyrically Meth would murder this dude. Joe's got bars but he got nothin on meth.
sleepyhed46 2 months ago
I enjoy both but if you think Joey cant rap your an idiot.
Blakwall 5 months ago
I agree with Joe, hands down he is better than Method Man at this point. No dis. to Method Man.
pmoney8701 5 months ago
@pmoney8701 HAHAHAHAHAHAH thats stupid
lillymaye2302 5 months ago
@lillymaye2302 , it's funny that someone actually responded to this thread. LOL!
It's not that serious dude, plus it's my opinion Joey is better!
pmoney8701 4 months ago
FUCK JOE TICAL ALBUM ALONE SHIT ON THIS MAN WHOLE DISCOGRAPHY.....FUCK OUTA HEA
ShadowXFX1 5 months ago
@ShadowXFX1 Dogg your crazy, you obviously don't listen to budden and have a bias opinion. Real Rap meth was nice as shit in his prime and unique joey even gives him that and doesn't take anything away from him BUT TODAY BUDDEN would own meth lyrically. NO CONTEST.
tsh905 5 months ago
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@Idrastikk Criticizing IS NOT an excuse, not "it is" lol. But your right; someone who goes "LOOOOOOOOL, I won this argument" or someone who spells people like "poeple",is at a young age with no understanding of anything. I seen the arguments, he hasn't beaten anything or anyone, all the LOOOOLS and LMAOOOOOs proves stupidity not dominance in an argument.
LoveforallHipHop 5 months ago
ol dirty bastard is one of the best... its impossible to make a top 5 list for me because i have so many favourites.. but dirtys name shouldnt have been in little joeys mouth......
BroughBrothers 5 months ago
@Pacsum your always on here replying you have no life probably beating ya meat to you tube go jump of a cliff
JDiZZ2Real 5 months ago
@PACSUM1 Meth has collaborated with Pac biggie Mary j blige lauryn hill mobb deep nas DMX llcool j limp bizkit dangelo and ginuwine who has Joe budden collaborated with nobody know why cuz he's WACK and nobody knows him or likes him go jump on Da subway tracks you joe budden fanboy
JDiZZ2Real 5 months ago
@Pacsum your an ignorant fan who refuses to listen to logic and ya argument is as good as Joe buddens rap which is garbage Joe budden will never be looked as one of Da best in hip hop cuz he sucks he's always running his mouth and whining like a little b!tch cuz he wasn't high enough on Da list and u clearly have no life everytime I check my mail it's always u responding your probably a fat loser who sits in his bed on his laptop eating cheese doodles
JDiZZ2Real 5 months ago
@Pacsum please tell me ya joking you always tryna explain how Joe budden is explaining something how grammies Don't mean SH!t so u telling me Pac and biggie winning won means nothing Joe budden is a nobody I bet if he one he be saying different Joe budden is garbage
JDiZZ2Real 5 months ago
lol joe budden cried after he got punched by a wu tang members killa beez will end up fuckin u up better not tour anymore cuz u will get fucked up wu tang is the illest who is budden? a lame ass underground rapper ur flows are wack compared to wu 2pac is not a even a problem poets are not phenomenal rappers they are poets joe u got ur ass beat by wu leave it alone
bigdrew8877 5 months ago
@Pacsum nah homie I comprehend just fine and yes meth being on both those tracks does show he's better and winning Grammys also justify that and btw da Remarks you made to Idrastikk just show that ya a Fanboy who clearly knows Nothing about hip hop
JDiZZ2Real 5 months ago
@Pacsum exactly you can't name a bigger collaboration because Joe budden is WACK nobody wants him that's why def jam Benched him even Ed lover thought he was wrong when he said he was better than method man meths albums has went platinum while Joe buddens barely went gold it's obvious your a Joe budden fanboy who still listening to pump it up method man will always be better than Joe budden face it da whole def jam knows it that's why they was all on his side when it happened
JDiZZ2Real 5 months ago
@PACSMUM1 When I said I have a life, I meant I'm not always at the Computer Screen.
This is my last post to you. You talk about Debate, yet don't bother to read my comments. I know I have put loads. Someone who doesn't take pride in their spelling and saying that criticizing it is an excuse, is not going achieve nothing in life.
If you want to talk about "win" or "lose" you lost my mere stupidity. At the end of the day, I will move on and you will still be arguing on the Internet.
Idrastikk 5 months ago
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LoveforallHipHop 5 months ago
@PACSMUM1 I WILL keep on mentioning you on about something that happened two years ago, because it is so stupid. It makes no sense.
I don't know how old you are because you keep saying "I won" "Give up" like it is a game or something. Obviously you have a low level of maturity. Won what? Give up what.
Idrastikk 5 months ago
@PACSMUM1 So yes I criticized your spelling, because I don't see how anyone can take you seriously. Does that make me an English Teacher, because clearly you have never had one? Why else are you going on about a Teacher. Am I allowed to not criticize?
I mentioned your Hip Hop Knowledge because you said you hate Wu-Tang Fans with 0% knowledge but that's ironic since have never listened to Method Man.
Idrastikk 5 months ago
@PACSMUM1 I respect Joe and Meth, which I have stated many times. You hate Wu-Tang fans just because they do not like Joe. I am neutral having liked both Artists, you talk about me losing, but you clearly haven't made a point on why I have lost.
So again what are you debating about? I can like both Artists if I want to, you want to argue about Joe Budden. I guarentee you haven't even listened to enough Joe Budden.
Idrastikk 5 months ago
@PACSMUM1 Your the one saying "Method Man is getting props over Budden and Big and Pac made his Career" . I stated some facts about Method Man's Career but you were too stupid to even read. Then you say "So what if it was two years ago". You came on here looking for argument. I said were not debating because every point I made was yesterday and you didn't even look.
Idrastikk 5 months ago
@PACSMUM1 The thing is were not even debating and I do have neutral comments because I like both Artists. Your paranoia is evident and your life seems to be on Youtube. You remind me of WeezyJColeFan, your ego is too big to say you won a "debate" even though People are not debating.
This Method Man and Joe beef has obviously bothered you to a degree since you want to keep on arguing. You have beef with the Wu- Tang fans? What are you debating about.
Idrastikk 5 months ago
@PACSMUM1 Sorry if I didn't reply sooner, I actually have a Life. Yes I like Joe Budden and Method Man so having neutral comments isn't "screaming" for thumbs up.
You really cannot talk about Hip Hop Knowledge since you don't have any common sense. I'm not perfecting my grammar because it isn't and has never been perfect, I misspell words and miss out them, but it is a whole lot better than yours.
Idrastikk 5 months ago
@PACSMUM1 I would, but for someone who is on the Internet arguing about an incident that occured two years ago, I have to say no. I respect both Artists and love their Albums and I don't see why you are so hostile towards the Wu-Tang Clan. I guarentee I have listened to more Joe Budden than you.
I have to talk about Grammar because of the way you write, you instantly lose credibility to me.
Idrastikk 5 months ago
@PACSMUM1 Rip me apart? Your claims are about as good as your grammar. If you bothered to read my first post you would know I said that Joe Budden is better lyrically that Method Man, but Method Man has more respect in the Hip Hop Community and will ALWAYS be legendary.
Second if want to talk about Albums and getting "props" you would know that Method Man gets more recognition.
Third you were stupid enough to say Big and Pac made him, when you obviously haven't listened to Tical.
Idrastikk 5 months ago
@PACSMUM1 You need to grow up. You obviously haven't read ALL my Comments. How did you win this "battle" explain?
The Joe and Method Man beef ended two years ago, where have you been? You are acting like it just happened. Read ALL my Comments before replying. You must be a little kid. "I won, I won" hit puberty and then talk.
Idrastikk 5 months ago
@Idrastikk yes finally Someone who knows hip hop! Even 50 cent said that meth was Da Best in Da wu and is still one of Da greatest
JDiZZ2Real 5 months ago
@Pacsum you still avoiding Da question lol name bigger collaborations than PAC and biggie and they didn't do meth a favor by putting him on a track they put him on Da track cuz they recognized Da talent he had Joe budden is known for two songs lmao he's not on meths level his albums are garbage and like I said Before nobody FUGKING Knows him
JDiZZ2Real 5 months ago
I'm glad budden recognize lupe's greatness
LLC00lCarl 5 months ago
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@PACSMUM1 In 1994 B.I.G and Method Man released their Debut Albums. Biggie's was more popular with having 4x Platinum Certification but in the same year, Method Man's Album went Platinum and his single "Bring the Pain" was extremely popular, you must be idiotic.
Idrastikk 5 months ago
@PACSMUM1 "thats like eminem vs benzino and me saying eminem is better because of devils night....."
Devils Night is a D12 Album. Eminem is featured in the Group. A better comparison.
Idrastikk 5 months ago
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Idrastikk 5 months ago
@PACSMUM1 Big and Pac made his career? Are you really that stupid?
You must be one of the most ignorant People I've heard. You obviously never heard of Method Man's Solo Album "Tical" an influential Album and known as one of the Classic East Coast Albums. Yes I had to talk about Albums because you said Big and Pac made his Career?
Idrastikk 5 months ago
@PACSMUM1 You need to stop being a stan. I'm a fan of Joe Budden AND Wu-Tang Clan. I will say this Joe Budden is better than Method Man lyrically - that's as honest as I came be. I listened to his Studio Albums, Digital Albums and Mixtapes, BUT Method Man has much more respect in the Hip Hop Community, not just by me but by many.
Idrastikk 5 months ago
He said today think budden its better bars are more indepth budden hands down
Deonta1989 5 months ago
Joe budden is garbage and has never had a platinum selling album where's he at now probably smoking crack like he used to
JDiZZ2Real 6 months ago
@Pacsum well its beef cuz both didn't agree Joe budden isn't better than meth even Ed lova disagreed with him when he said that listen to da interview and it's funny how u still advoided da question I asked u about naming a bigger collaboration then PAC and biggie you know why because Joe budden songs suck he had about two hits who da he'll is he to try to decide who should be on da list like inspectah deck Said nobody Fugking knows him
JDiZZ2Real 6 months ago
@Legendary081 then they go into the lame group eminem's fuking sucks now, so as joe budden, great artist is the one that have consistency, i don't give a shyt about a short term skills.
jkdxtr321 6 months ago
Today, lyrically Joe Budden is better than any member of Wu. Hands down. RZA was just on So Appalled and got shined on by everybody on there including Cyhi. He had 6 lines and that was it. But like everyone else said, Wu was that shit in the '90's. It's progression. Shut up and deal with it.
Smoketillmyeyesbleed 6 months ago
@Smoketillmy: ya i agree that things progress but when its all said and done,u gotta measure these artists by their bodies of work.. will Budden have a solo LP as good as Cuban Linx,Liquid swords,Ironman,Bobby Digital,etc? will any group he's in have a better release than 36chambers or wu tang forever?? in their heighth of popularity,Wu was bigger than Buddens highest level now... but u right,Budden is definitely bringin it these days.... Slaughterhouse is ill as fuck
626SupremeLogic 6 months ago
@626SupremeLogic I'm not disagreeing. When it comes to notoriety, Wu. Lyrically, Joe. You gotta think that back then Wu pretty much what Hip Hop was looking for with a twist. Joey isn't what is popular in Hip Hop because his lyrics go over your head. Substance over swagger isn't the case anymore. He's the realest, most honest emcee and people can't respect that. They want fast cars and bad bitches. Not Ordinary love shit and Secrets. They're both two different types of artist you can't compare.
Smoketillmyeyesbleed 5 months ago
'ODB four slots ahead of black thought from the roots'
Dickriding aside. yeh that blasphomy. Dude is right
danyl123 6 months ago 2
both sick. But Joe budden is better.
danyl123 6 months ago
Name me two Joe budden songs besides pump it up and pop off I guarantee u you would have a problem if Joe budden such a good mc name an award he won, name me a bigger collaboration than PAC and biggie
JDiZZ2Real 6 months ago
@JDiZZ2Real Keep on, downfall, Ayo, 40/40,.... dude, budden makes tons of great songs. do some research dude. check out Classified featuring joe budden- unusual
Loyalty1269 5 months ago
@Pacsum there was beef cuz Joe budden said he was better than meth and not only Joe budden jealous of meth Success he's also a coward for wanting to squash beef and admit he was wrong when def jam and wu was coming at his neck tell me this what has Joe budden done since def jam benched him? Meth would out rhyme and end joes career if they ever battled he should be happy meth spared him
JDiZZ2Real 6 months ago
i know your fucking about saying joe budden is better than meth u clearly like real hip hop wu are a dynasty
dom123435 6 months ago
@dom123435 yaa but budden would destroy meth TODAY
tsh905 6 months ago
Joe budden is jealous of method man clearly Joe budden even said at one point in his career he tried to be like meth why would Joe admit that if he really thought he was better than method man Joe know he was outta line and that's why when da wu and busta rhymes and redman got at him he chose to squash da beef and apologize
JDiZZ2Real 6 months ago
@pacsum ok so why do u think method man has better sales in Da first place I mean yeah everbody likes him but I'm sure that isn't da only reason why is albums have sold million worldwide it's his raw style and sick flow delivery and Joe never actually issued a challenge to meth he just tried to diss him and when meth told him to come see him face to face he wanted to squash Da beef funny when da whole def jam and wu was on his neck he wanted to end da beef isn't it
JDiZZ2Real 6 months ago
Joe Buddens is a never been he had 7mos of fame.
poppinthangs 6 months ago
@Legendary081 In your fantasy world... You guys is just notalgic, and it seems that you have problems facing the fact that Wus time is OVER. Each Slaughter member is way better than the random member in Wu.
enzaim 6 months ago
@Pacsum and wu tang is only a fraction of what meth has done and if meth was in da brand new car as I spoke of do u really think Joe budden would be overlapping him when his sales and lyrics are nowhere on meths level joebudden only had a few good hits. One verse from meth is better than joe burdens entire album
JDiZZ2Real 6 months ago
@Pacsum I think it's funny how u actually believe Joe budden is better than method man and its not one lyric he was famous for on biggies track it was his verses of pure greatness also did u happen to hear got my mind made up by TUPAC yup that's right another huge collaboration know why cuz he's one of the best to be both on TUPAC and biggies album is saying something cuz biggie and PAC didn't get along so for PAC to include him would show u that meth is one of da best
JDiZZ2Real 6 months ago
I wish niggas were still real. Diss tracks and beatdowns, not videos "discussing" a beef. Jump a nigga you hate, don't Vlog about him. Get real.
OlDirtyKillaBee 6 months ago
@Legendary081 "Who gives a fuck if they are old???They are still monsters."
No, that's the thing. They WERE monsters back in the 90s. But in the modern day Slaugherhouse is better and it's not even something odd. It's called development.
enzaim 6 months ago
Everyone says Wu-Tang legendary...but they aren't relevant to hip hop now.
ExadusTV 6 months ago
@ExadusTV Aren't relevant to Hip Hop? They will always be relevant, BECAUSE of the influential Albums they put out, as a group or individually. Ever since "Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers)" they have been known to inspire. They may not Rap in the Mainstream anymore but are still remembered to this day.
GZA, Ghostface Killah and Raekwon have all done Classical Albums.
DreRiley11 6 months ago 10
@DreRiley11 And Method's tical was classic and so was Return to the 36 Chambers...
OlDirtyKillaBee 6 months ago
@DreRiley11 "Strong as a base of mountin, there`s no countin, How many MC`s have sprung from my fountin`" RZA(Biochemical Equation)
examinfo 5 months ago
@ExadusTV Wu makes the dopest tracks out there, almost every hip hop artist you love was inspired by Wu Tang. Spit a flow as good as Deck or GZa..then call 'em irelevant...
OlDirtyKillaBee 6 months ago
I agree with Joe, they are legendary but in todays rap world they wouldn't stand a chance.
7777montey 6 months ago
shits like sports if you aint striving to be the best then why do it?
jspeighty 6 months ago
@Legendary081 You still don't get it do you? WU are tired and old. Slaughterhouse is more hungry than ever. Crooked and Royce alone, can rap circles around every member in WU.
It doesn't matter if WU have made classics for 15 years ago. TODAY slaughterhouse is a better rap group. And thats only because music is an artform that that constantly evolve.
enzaim 6 months ago
Homegirl just said "jooe" like wtf you saying haha ...
Piernud0te 6 months ago
Budden is in his prime. Even though this vid is from 09, Slaugherhouse is more hungry than ever, Wich Method Man isn't today. When you lived on your passion (hip-hop in this case) for over ten years, you are pretty worn, however. With the exception of people like Jay-Z and Eminem has no weakness in their careers at all.
enzaim 6 months ago
Man Joe Is lucky as HELL that ODB aint still here!!!
KingZee35 6 months ago
I don't think Ed Lover likes JB very much
eastbaybochat 6 months ago
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Method could out rap Joe budden on any given night just cuz someone doesn't make a album or song doesn't mean they still can't spit that's like saying I had a brand new car and I decided not to drive for a few days does that mean I can't drive? No just that I would like to take a break same thing with meth he's done so much joe budden can't compare
JDiZZ2Real 6 months ago
Method could out rap Joe budden on any given night just cuz someone doesn't make a album or song doesn't mean they still can't spit that's like saying I had a brand new cat and I decided not to drive for a few days does that mean I can't drive? No just that I would like to take a break same thing with meth he's done so much joe budden can't compare
JDiZZ2Real 6 months ago