Police have a legal right to arrest and restrain, they dont have a right to inflict pain and suffering - thats for the courts. Any Citizen has the right to challenge and observe, also in this day and age the right to film. Oh the poooooooor police....
Good grief, you obnoxious loud mouths. Ever heard of laws related to disturbing the peace - or whatever you call it?
As for the subject of fur, it's a ligitimate commercial product desired by many people, so I have no problem with it being sold. But, since you object to that, what's next - leather belts, shoes, jackets, clothing, furniture, and automobile upholstery?
I agree that you should protest for what you want, but you and other were causing trouble - which not only gives animal rights protestors a bad name but also wastes alot of people's important time.
Next time you protest, try and think your representing every other animal right's protestor else who may not want a bad reputation.
these protesters who were arrested totally deserved it as they were creating a public order offence. So think they need to get a grip... pointless arguing with Harrods they ain't going to say "lets stop selling this fur that make us £££'s because that guy with the board and long ginger scruffy hair with the ripped up combats on say's so." Come on guys!
Stupid comment considering the arrest was for nothing that happened on this day at all, rather allegations of things that had happened in previous months.
Yeah you're right the little 80-year-old girl-molesting owner of Harrods isn't going to listen to us, but public do and thousands are boycotting Harrods while they sell fur.
You know, if you didn't deliberatly wind up the police, you wouldn't ever get into any trouble. The mets ARE idiots, agreed, but you do look for trouble. You want sympathy? Go to hell.
The met tried to run me over twice the same week my best friend was killed in a hit and run (which they claimed was suicide). They have told me on repeated occasions since that I am going to be snuffed out by them.
addymaj, i was thinking the exact same thing as i was watching this. they seem to think they know the law so well, but clearly if you stand outside a business shouting agressivley, expect to be arrested. another group of people wasting the time of the police and doing their cause no good. people dont want to be force fed you ideals, the best thing you can do is learn the law and play the game.
You clearly don't know what kind of form these protests take. If you stand outside a business harassing and abusing staff then you deserve to be arrested and prosecuted. We, however, do not partake in such activity, merely try to distribute leaflets and holding placards to highlight our cause. This is not criminal behaviour and we should be free to do it.
distribute leaflets while shouting through a megaphone, the police are well within their right to move you on if your causing disruption. just because they didnt bring charges against you doesn't mean you proved them wrong, it just means that you were being a nuisance to a business, its staff and customers who have as much right to be here as you do, and they were respecting the wishes of the victims by doing so. the more you act like this, the quicker youll be shut down next time.
A district judge in a case just last year said that a megaphone on a demonstration was a perfectly acceptable thing to use.
If, of course, you use it to harass and abuse people with it that becomes illegal - in the same way that you can use a biro in a library but you can't stab someone in there with it.
perhaps beefychew if u think shouting and harrasing a business is bad you should check out the reality of the fur industry and ask yourself then weather they really do have 'a right to be' . calling thease people victims? lol! u dont the meaning of the word!
There you go butterflybabe666. That sums up the whole animal rights movement's attitude to the general public. And shows why it's still viewed with contempt by the general public.
You think we're ignorant, and it's your duty to educate us. A terribly patronising view. It's the militant way in which you try to do this that causes the general public to shun your ideals. You come across as fanatic, extremist zealots...
...If you really want to sway public opinion, look at how the climate change lobby are doing it or look back to successful anti-fur trade campaigns such as PETA's "I'd rather go naked" campaign.
Protest like this do nothing but satisfy your need to be controversial and rebel against the establishment.
There are thousands of peaceful protests allowed by the police. As it seems you're a career protester, I'm sure you've attended some. But of course they're sensational enough to post.
I think where you're going wrong is your understanding of the word "protest". You're very officious and militant in the way you protest (look up Batari's Box). You think that everyone would agree with your point if only they weren't so 'ignorant'. And they deserve to have their day ruined so you can 'educate' them.
I find it funny that you call me ignorant and use inverted commas for words like "'ignorant'" in your comment. All the demonstrations that we do are peaceful. This arrest was not for anything that happened on this day, but for alleged harrassment (peaceful protest) of a fur shop. Yet again, the case was dropped - after just 3 weeks this time.
Try re-reading it. I wasn't calling you ignorant. I do think you are, but that's not what I said.
Why is it funny that I would use "inverted commas"? And what does that have to do with being ignorant.
I used them to highlight the contempt you hold the public in. People who also have a right to go about their daily business without feeling "harassed, alarmed or distressed" (sec. 5 POA).
You have a right to protest. You DON'T have a right to do as you please under the guise of a protest.
Try re-reading what I said - I didn't claim that you had called me ignorant! There was no harassment, alarm or distress and therefore no offences, and therefore no charges or prosecutions. I know that I cannot commit criminal acts on a protest. Even non-criminal acts can result in arrests when it comes to protests. I know. I do them!
erm, I have re-read it and to quote "you call me ignorant".
There clearly was harassment, alarm and distress! It's plain to see in the video, completely irrefutable!
There are many reasons why it may have been dropped. If it was, as you said, because there were no offences then it would have been an illegal arrest, and you wouldn't have to sue because the IPCC would take action on your behalf. They haven't so therefore the constables don't have a case to answer, they were right, you were wrong.
....AND the complaints you made about taxpayers money being wasted funding such instances of policing are wholly redundant when you consider the police time wasted dealing with your petty complaints amongst other things, and the resources wasted through you actually choosing to sue!! Frankly i think you abuse our legal system, and put unnecessary strain on a police force that already struggles with the burden of our expectations. I can only assume you're not actually taxpayer yourself...
"and tbh i'm very glad to see your 'civil liberties' take a backseat to practical policing" - I've rarely heard a comment so scary. If "practical policing" means forgetting what the law says then we have a police force with no rules. It's very important to take action against the police so that there's some personal accountability, otherwise nothing will ever change. The police spend a totally disproportionate amount of money harrassing protest groups while real crimes go unsolved.
I don't understand why you're so intent on going around making such a nuisance of yourself; is it actually your intention to get arrested when attending these events?? Why are you so eager to put people who already have demanding jobs under more stress? Regardless of whether you have peaceful intentions, any protest regarding contentious issues has the potential to end in conflict, and tbh i'm very glad to see your 'civil liberties' take a backseat to practical policing.
You bitch about the police, but who would you expect to help you if your house was being burgled, or if you were assaulted? (and I mean proper assault, not a policeman trying to do his job) I think you're a complete disgrace.
The police have a duty to defend our freedoms such as freedom to protest. Instead they break the law to stamp on peaceful protest and treat protesters as criminals just to meet their own ends. I think that is completely disgraceful. Their JOB is to deal with assualts and burglaries. Their JOB is NOT to harass innocent lawful protesters. Maybe more burglars and thugs would be caught if they didn't spend so much time and resources harassing protest groups.
From the rest of your videos I guess you think it's your JOB to try to provoke the police into harassing "inocent protestors." I wouldn't exactly call the probable intimidation of passers by, shoppers and shop staff "innocent."
There is absolutely no provocation of police whatsoever. I start filming when the police interfere with our protest. All myself and my fellow protesters want to do it conduct effective protets within the law.
protests are ok..but whining like a little kid.. "gimme ur numba, gimme ur numba"... I guess if the officer could get off duty for only 1 second, he would use it to punch your face. let them do their job, and get one yourself.
police should keep locking up stupid little protestors that think they know the law when they now fuck all about it and as far as i can see from the rest of your videos i think you want te be arrested
So... The woman was pushed onto the road and then arrested for obstruction of the highway! Ha! Thats jokes...
Kinda obvious that the police re-assured Harrods and their customers that the protest will be disrupted in order to ensure smoother business.
Research the methods of obtaining fur from animals around the world - some/most are actually skinned alive... You'd think they'd be slaughtered with a bit of dignity...
Drawing a parralel between a convicted child killer and somebody who eats meat?..is it any wonder society doesnt take you freaks seriously!
And it isnt ammoral, its natural...mother nature put incisors and canine teeth in my mouth for cutting through flesh...she also filled my stomach with the enzymes needed to digest meat.....i like nature's idea of how i should live my life far better than your version. Keep protesting and i'll keep laughing!
omggkym....dont attack people because of their beliefs and opinion? Isnt that what protestors such s this chap are doing? I like to eat meat, on a nice day i'll shot the birds myself, i wear fur too..its very warm during these cold months. Its my belief that animals are food, lower than us in the food chain and fair game to be shot and eaten and/or made into clothes. Who's going to stand up for my beliefs and opinions?
Well not many people will stick up for you, because you're clearly an ammoral asshole. I think you'll get about as much support as Ian Huntley got when he was getting sentanced. On the other hand, the animal rights people who are in jail get sacks full of mail. Goes to show you doesn't it...
"The girl arrested for obstruction of the highway (pushed onto road by police)"
You make up shit to try and make the police look like worse. The women was NOT pushed onto the road by police. You can see her walk into the road on her own accord.
You wouldn't have been arrested if you wern't so annoying.
oh the grammar the grammar - i am having literary breakdown here!!!! Can someone call the literary police please... I don't think I can stand it - this is a crime against the English language!!! Heeeeellllllpppppppppppppppppppp!!!!!!
Do you think any of the officers really CARE about your ceaseless, inane observations? Personally, I say no, it actually makes their day more interesting.
Secondly, as a matter of interest, do you claim benefits? You don't have to answer if it inconvenient for you to do so.
Goes to show Al Fayad is still in with the Crown, otherwise these corporate lackies wouldn't be protecting his interests & abusing peaceful protesters! Fayad was in on the Diana plot, with what he has said to the press about the royals who would believe it? Such is the mind fuck playground of the elite!
Come on, this is such lame nonsense. Don't make such a nuisance of yourself mate. Can't you just go walking on bollards or riding on buses like in your other vids?
So you had a fee schedule in place?
42kang 2 years ago
Police have a legal right to arrest and restrain, they dont have a right to inflict pain and suffering - thats for the courts. Any Citizen has the right to challenge and observe, also in this day and age the right to film. Oh the poooooooor police....
Kaldhore 2 years ago
Police can ask you to leave an area btw...
lightningpete 2 years ago
whaT fucking idiots the police have to deal with this shit everyday and waste their time they should taser them all
charlieiscool1000 2 years ago
I would like to thumbs down some of these stupid, ignorant comments... please enable the option. :)
Keep up the good work, im a new fan
NotMarkk 2 years ago
god you and ur hippy mates are such losers
Batesyboyo2 2 years ago
retard get a fucking job, youll be doing the world alot better
infrared567 2 years ago
Good grief, you obnoxious loud mouths. Ever heard of laws related to disturbing the peace - or whatever you call it?
As for the subject of fur, it's a ligitimate commercial product desired by many people, so I have no problem with it being sold. But, since you object to that, what's next - leather belts, shoes, jackets, clothing, furniture, and automobile upholstery?
stewartx5 2 years ago
y did u have to go on and on i understand that u r protesting for a good cause but u was asked to move and listen so y dont u listen!
westhunitedboi 2 years ago
wow mate it seems you spend your life following the police around. you are soooo sad. i pay taxes so the police keep wasters like you off the streets
noelparks1 2 years ago
And your taxes also pays for my food and beers down the pub haha :D
alanbuttle 2 years ago
yeah and they will pay for your prison cell soon too i hope, he he he he he
noelparks1 2 years ago
Lets be honest though noelparks1 flippin burgers at Mc Donalds isn't gonna pay for many pigs
MonsterMozz 2 years ago
police are thugs employed to maintain the status quo
tomheppy 2 years ago
I agree that you should protest for what you want, but you and other were causing trouble - which not only gives animal rights protestors a bad name but also wastes alot of people's important time.
Next time you protest, try and think your representing every other animal right's protestor else who may not want a bad reputation.
Crafty002 2 years ago
these protesters who were arrested totally deserved it as they were creating a public order offence. So think they need to get a grip... pointless arguing with Harrods they ain't going to say "lets stop selling this fur that make us £££'s because that guy with the board and long ginger scruffy hair with the ripped up combats on say's so." Come on guys!
modernmale 2 years ago
Stupid comment considering the arrest was for nothing that happened on this day at all, rather allegations of things that had happened in previous months.
Yeah you're right the little 80-year-old girl-molesting owner of Harrods isn't going to listen to us, but public do and thousands are boycotting Harrods while they sell fur.
alanbuttle 2 years ago
You know, if you didn't deliberatly wind up the police, you wouldn't ever get into any trouble. The mets ARE idiots, agreed, but you do look for trouble. You want sympathy? Go to hell.
woodpod 2 years ago
The met tried to run me over twice the same week my best friend was killed in a hit and run (which they claimed was suicide). They have told me on repeated occasions since that I am going to be snuffed out by them.
kensingtonkarma 2 years ago
you do realise its illegal to film and post videos of people on the internet with out there permission??.....hipokrit!!!.....fuckin hippy!!
bradas2006 2 years ago
Under what law then? Go on - name it!!
alanbuttle 2 years ago
bradas2006: laughing at your ignorance all the way from New York City.
How is it possible we know your laws better than you?
nyc4animals 2 years ago
addymaj, i was thinking the exact same thing as i was watching this. they seem to think they know the law so well, but clearly if you stand outside a business shouting agressivley, expect to be arrested. another group of people wasting the time of the police and doing their cause no good. people dont want to be force fed you ideals, the best thing you can do is learn the law and play the game.
beefychew 2 years ago
You clearly don't know what kind of form these protests take. If you stand outside a business harassing and abusing staff then you deserve to be arrested and prosecuted. We, however, do not partake in such activity, merely try to distribute leaflets and holding placards to highlight our cause. This is not criminal behaviour and we should be free to do it.
alanbuttle 2 years ago
distribute leaflets while shouting through a megaphone, the police are well within their right to move you on if your causing disruption. just because they didnt bring charges against you doesn't mean you proved them wrong, it just means that you were being a nuisance to a business, its staff and customers who have as much right to be here as you do, and they were respecting the wishes of the victims by doing so. the more you act like this, the quicker youll be shut down next time.
beefychew 2 years ago
Where's the megaphone? You mean the silent invisible one in the video?
alanbuttle 2 years ago
i might be thinking of one of your other videos, i'll take your word for it. but what i said still stands.
beefychew 2 years ago
A district judge in a case just last year said that a megaphone on a demonstration was a perfectly acceptable thing to use.
If, of course, you use it to harass and abuse people with it that becomes illegal - in the same way that you can use a biro in a library but you can't stab someone in there with it.
alanbuttle 2 years ago
perhaps beefychew if u think shouting and harrasing a business is bad you should check out the reality of the fur industry and ask yourself then weather they really do have 'a right to be' . calling thease people victims? lol! u dont the meaning of the word!
butterflybabe666 2 years ago
There you go butterflybabe666. That sums up the whole animal rights movement's attitude to the general public. And shows why it's still viewed with contempt by the general public.
You think we're ignorant, and it's your duty to educate us. A terribly patronising view. It's the militant way in which you try to do this that causes the general public to shun your ideals. You come across as fanatic, extremist zealots...
addymaj 2 years ago
...If you really want to sway public opinion, look at how the climate change lobby are doing it or look back to successful anti-fur trade campaigns such as PETA's "I'd rather go naked" campaign.
Protest like this do nothing but satisfy your need to be controversial and rebel against the establishment.
addymaj 2 years ago
There are thousands of peaceful protests allowed by the police. As it seems you're a career protester, I'm sure you've attended some. But of course they're sensational enough to post.
I think where you're going wrong is your understanding of the word "protest". You're very officious and militant in the way you protest (look up Batari's Box). You think that everyone would agree with your point if only they weren't so 'ignorant'. And they deserve to have their day ruined so you can 'educate' them.
addymaj 2 years ago
I find it funny that you call me ignorant and use inverted commas for words like "'ignorant'" in your comment. All the demonstrations that we do are peaceful. This arrest was not for anything that happened on this day, but for alleged harrassment (peaceful protest) of a fur shop. Yet again, the case was dropped - after just 3 weeks this time.
alanbuttle 2 years ago
Try re-reading it. I wasn't calling you ignorant. I do think you are, but that's not what I said.
Why is it funny that I would use "inverted commas"? And what does that have to do with being ignorant.
I used them to highlight the contempt you hold the public in. People who also have a right to go about their daily business without feeling "harassed, alarmed or distressed" (sec. 5 POA).
You have a right to protest. You DON'T have a right to do as you please under the guise of a protest.
addymaj 2 years ago
Try re-reading what I said - I didn't claim that you had called me ignorant! There was no harassment, alarm or distress and therefore no offences, and therefore no charges or prosecutions. I know that I cannot commit criminal acts on a protest. Even non-criminal acts can result in arrests when it comes to protests. I know. I do them!
alanbuttle 2 years ago
erm, I have re-read it and to quote "you call me ignorant".
There clearly was harassment, alarm and distress! It's plain to see in the video, completely irrefutable!
There are many reasons why it may have been dropped. If it was, as you said, because there were no offences then it would have been an illegal arrest, and you wouldn't have to sue because the IPCC would take action on your behalf. They haven't so therefore the constables don't have a case to answer, they were right, you were wrong.
addymaj 2 years ago
....AND the complaints you made about taxpayers money being wasted funding such instances of policing are wholly redundant when you consider the police time wasted dealing with your petty complaints amongst other things, and the resources wasted through you actually choosing to sue!! Frankly i think you abuse our legal system, and put unnecessary strain on a police force that already struggles with the burden of our expectations. I can only assume you're not actually taxpayer yourself...
flexiproof 2 years ago
"and tbh i'm very glad to see your 'civil liberties' take a backseat to practical policing" - I've rarely heard a comment so scary. If "practical policing" means forgetting what the law says then we have a police force with no rules. It's very important to take action against the police so that there's some personal accountability, otherwise nothing will ever change. The police spend a totally disproportionate amount of money harrassing protest groups while real crimes go unsolved.
alanbuttle 2 years ago
I don't understand why you're so intent on going around making such a nuisance of yourself; is it actually your intention to get arrested when attending these events?? Why are you so eager to put people who already have demanding jobs under more stress? Regardless of whether you have peaceful intentions, any protest regarding contentious issues has the potential to end in conflict, and tbh i'm very glad to see your 'civil liberties' take a backseat to practical policing.
flexiproof 2 years ago
You bitch about the police, but who would you expect to help you if your house was being burgled, or if you were assaulted? (and I mean proper assault, not a policeman trying to do his job) I think you're a complete disgrace.
callumx123 2 years ago
The police have a duty to defend our freedoms such as freedom to protest. Instead they break the law to stamp on peaceful protest and treat protesters as criminals just to meet their own ends. I think that is completely disgraceful. Their JOB is to deal with assualts and burglaries. Their JOB is NOT to harass innocent lawful protesters. Maybe more burglars and thugs would be caught if they didn't spend so much time and resources harassing protest groups.
alanbuttle 2 years ago
From the rest of your videos I guess you think it's your JOB to try to provoke the police into harassing "inocent protestors." I wouldn't exactly call the probable intimidation of passers by, shoppers and shop staff "innocent."
callumx123 2 years ago
My favourite word you use is probably.
alanbuttle 2 years ago
I can't say for certain, I wasnt there. If I had been, we would be having this conversation face to face.
callumx123 2 years ago
There is absolutely no provocation of police whatsoever. I start filming when the police interfere with our protest. All myself and my fellow protesters want to do it conduct effective protets within the law.
alanbuttle 2 years ago
MOST BORING VIDEO EVER!!!
garyuk17 3 years ago
Thanks for watching!
alanbuttle 3 years ago
wish i never! :)
garyuk17 3 years ago
Ill have to agree with saladphobia...
protests are ok..but whining like a little kid.. "gimme ur numba, gimme ur numba"... I guess if the officer could get off duty for only 1 second, he would use it to punch your face. let them do their job, and get one yourself.
fukompe 3 years ago
police should keep locking up stupid little protestors that think they know the law when they now fuck all about it and as far as i can see from the rest of your videos i think you want te be arrested
danielkindon 3 years ago
alanbuttle, you are a complete idiot. a typical self righteous cretin. get a job you fucking hippy and learn the law.
a11wvw 3 years ago
So... The woman was pushed onto the road and then arrested for obstruction of the highway! Ha! Thats jokes...
Kinda obvious that the police re-assured Harrods and their customers that the protest will be disrupted in order to ensure smoother business.
Research the methods of obtaining fur from animals around the world - some/most are actually skinned alive... You'd think they'd be slaughtered with a bit of dignity...
chappelle87 3 years ago
Drawing a parralel between a convicted child killer and somebody who eats meat?..is it any wonder society doesnt take you freaks seriously!
And it isnt ammoral, its natural...mother nature put incisors and canine teeth in my mouth for cutting through flesh...she also filled my stomach with the enzymes needed to digest meat.....i like nature's idea of how i should live my life far better than your version. Keep protesting and i'll keep laughing!
sdd250 3 years ago
omggkym....dont attack people because of their beliefs and opinion? Isnt that what protestors such s this chap are doing? I like to eat meat, on a nice day i'll shot the birds myself, i wear fur too..its very warm during these cold months. Its my belief that animals are food, lower than us in the food chain and fair game to be shot and eaten and/or made into clothes. Who's going to stand up for my beliefs and opinions?
sdd250 3 years ago
Well not many people will stick up for you, because you're clearly an ammoral asshole. I think you'll get about as much support as Ian Huntley got when he was getting sentanced. On the other hand, the animal rights people who are in jail get sacks full of mail. Goes to show you doesn't it...
alanbuttle 3 years ago
They need to get a job... why not look into joining the police.
domuk69 3 years ago
I tried when i was one year old .. but they turned me down .. said that i was too qualified!!
Why don't you apply? .. with intelligence such as yours .. you should have no problem!!
AnimalMagic1 3 years ago
These vids make the protestors look really stupid
saladphobia 3 years ago
Only in the eyes of people who before viewing .. think they are stupid!!
In the eyes of decent,kind and caring people .. these protestors are heroes!!
AnimalMagic1 3 years ago
I don't see what kind of come back "get a job" is.
They are protesting, legally protesting.
To have their voices heard - because the fur trade is disgusting.
The amount of people who comment on videos such as this one, calling these people pathetic but also adding in things like "I EAT MEAT AND I'M PROUD."
Ignorance is nothing to be proud of.
To watch videos out of curiousity, to comment with your view - fair enough.
But to tear someone apart for their opinions and beliefs is wrong.
omggkym 3 years ago
Yeah, Police tell you to go away, dont keep walking into them saying stuff and shouting,
matttuck5 3 years ago
"The girl arrested for obstruction of the highway (pushed onto road by police)"
You make up shit to try and make the police look like worse. The women was NOT pushed onto the road by police. You can see her walk into the road on her own accord.
You wouldn't have been arrested if you wern't so annoying.
Get a job.
Zildjian285 3 years ago
oh the grammar the grammar - i am having literary breakdown here!!!! Can someone call the literary police please... I don't think I can stand it - this is a crime against the English language!!! Heeeeellllllpppppppppppppppppppp!!!!!!
buzzychickyjoy 3 years ago
Get somthing proper to protest about you fucking idiots. then we wouldn't have to waist "tax payers money" on you you fucking morons
aleram84 3 years ago
Waist - LOL!
alanbuttle 3 years ago
Does anyone else see the irony of taking the piss out of someone's spelling, then using ridiculous text-speak in the same sentence? Very funny.
truncheonmeat 3 years ago
Well done, you seem to have figured out what irony is. ROFLCOPTER!
alanbuttle 3 years ago
URAWNKR
truncheonmeat 3 years ago
Shame about shacwatch going under wasn't it though? The new one is just totally lame.
alanbuttle 3 years ago
Criticism of someone's poor spelling, followed-up with idiotic text speak... Come on, alanbuttle, I hope that was irony? I fear it wasn't.
truncheonmeat 3 years ago
A couple of things...
Do you think any of the officers really CARE about your ceaseless, inane observations? Personally, I say no, it actually makes their day more interesting.
Secondly, as a matter of interest, do you claim benefits? You don't have to answer if it inconvenient for you to do so.
truncheonmeat 3 years ago
Goes to show Al Fayad is still in with the Crown, otherwise these corporate lackies wouldn't be protecting his interests & abusing peaceful protesters! Fayad was in on the Diana plot, with what he has said to the press about the royals who would believe it? Such is the mind fuck playground of the elite!
darrenpollard1st 3 years ago
Why do so many police-hating conspiracy theorists get it all so very wrong?
truncheonmeat 3 years ago
But I do like the leaves on your homepage.
GormLesz 3 years ago
Come on, this is such lame nonsense. Don't make such a nuisance of yourself mate. Can't you just go walking on bollards or riding on buses like in your other vids?
GormLesz 3 years ago
Thanks gormless.
alanbuttle 3 years ago
I was going to say what have the cops got to hide...then I remembered...EVERYTHING!
Sue them big time!
AranSPEAKS 3 years ago