Frank Zappa ABC Morning Show September 26, 1985 Part 2

[joechill1]

We need Frank. RIP.

[musicISmyLIFE635]

wow. the PMRC was trying to parent america

[NWG92]

I never thought I could hate a big nosed Italian with a big mustache as much as I do, but fuck you... Rick Rizzi

[w9j15g]

@NWG92 The PMRC was an over-reaction, as time has proven. Hating Rick Rizzi is an over-reaction as well. His nose, ancestry and mustache are irrelevant.

[NWG92]

@w9j15g You got me. I wasn't even making a joke or anything.

[theguyisinthailand]

yo- rick rizzi, you had your 10 mintes of fame. rick ask frank after interview to give him some pointers in the record biz. frank said, write what the people will buy nigga or sell your soul. the movements of this type(control free thinking) is what the taliban used to gain power, think about it people...

[molepup]

ha ha, 3:52 - The old lady looking at the woman next to her in disgust!

I remember hearing somewhere that if the content of songs was to have a direct influence on society then why are we not all blissfully in love???!

[TaylorConrad8098]

Rick Rizzi looks like a meth head VIncent Gallo

[NicotinMan]

Zappa was so intelligent in the way you don't see on TV that he always seemed to be arguing with children around him.

[issofunky]

the thought...that a child...specifically a teen...would OBSERVE the law is ludacris.

[rolandrog]

Parents can't control their children or know their activities 100% of the time. I love rock n roll music and I don't consider the lyrics vulgar. RAP music is downright vulgar. I would raise my kids to not like RAP music and censure what they watch and listen to. After a certain age, you just cannot control and protect them anymore. All you can do as a parent is teach God and God's laws and set a good example. Good parents would know what kind of artists their kids listen to. Don't need labeling.

[NWG92]

@rolandrog How can you mention teaching "God and God's laws" and then completely contradict that by mentioning that parents should set a good example? You really want to set a good example? Keep "God" as far away from your children as possible. Let them decide for themselves what they believe in without forcing your own beliefs (which you were also forced into) down their throats.

[panhead1219]

Rick is a proven moron. Not a parent!

[DarkZekeX]

Rick just seems so... rude. And he's lying.

[FunkThatDrunkSlut420]

Man that fucker in blue is a dick..

[pjbigss]

History has now shown that the same album marked "G" and marked "R" , the "R" will sell more copies. Rock and roll is about rebellion and parents should listen to albums with their kids and talk about them. Society should not be charged with raising your kids. Candy and Tipper should really have gone back to school or spent more time with their kids and the world would be a better place.

[csplendrig]

@pjbigss I agree with you to about R rated movies or stickered albums selling more, but I think encouraging parents to listen to their kids albums with them and talk about it is a silly idea. "interesting song here son, he's talking about masturbating with a magazine, lets talk about that" uhhh yeah that'll go over well. Music is about escape, to have a parent doing that is getting up in their personal business and will push them away

[mp1323]

zappa is a legend,

rizzi= ???

[drmixedmeters]

Haha!

[freedomman121]

@mp1323 Rizzi = weenie

[FeelOfFriction]

Lets keep the shame. guilt and fear going for a couple more generations. Fucking morons. The suppression of the words give them there power.

[esigus]

I agree.

The rating system really worked, didn't it?

Kids listen to far more crap now than they ever did.

What Frank failed to point out is that making something taboo to kids always always always makes it more attractive & appealing... okay, not JUST to kids.

It's the reason our kids die at university campuses every year from alcohol over doses.

Making music taboo just makes it more lucrative because it makes it more alluring & everyone makes more money & isn't that really what it's all about?

[Maxwellfig]

I've been listening to Zappa since I was eleven and I turned out fine. He taught me that life didn't have to be boring, that I didn't have to have a stick up my ass to play an instrument well, that cocaine and other drugs are as stupid as they are bad for you, and that if you get a blowjob in France your peter may turn green. This, in my opinion, is not filth, but useful fatherly advice for any teenager.

[GrandmaOnDrums]

a "former adult" and concerned dentist

[cdpercussion1]

Rick Rizzi was well ahead of the rest of the pack back in 1985. Rick's and others work back then have lead to small changes that have made a difference in the eyes of parents around the world. Bottom line is that filth is filth and little kids should not listen to filth. Zappa was a great musician but as far as I am concerned, and from what I hear from people that knew him, he was a very self indulged and greedy man that was all about the $. Thanks Rick for caring back in the day!

[LogansRunning]

If by self-indulged you mean with his music, than you would be close to the truth... Frank was in the business to finance his non-lucrative hobby--which was writing structures and compositions for his synclavier machine.

[joedeschane1]

what ever happenend to freedom of choice? If you were to take that away from preforming artists you should take it from all art take it from someone that grew up at that time before you bump you bible

[MistahhB]

What you morons fail to realise is that lyrics today are "worse" then they ever dreamed about in the '80s. Why? To piss people like you off.

Stop having a stick up your ass and complaining about what other people do. You are a parasite to society and the world wouldn't change one bit if you died. You don't contribute or move society forward, you are just sitting in the backseat bitching and moaning about everything.

You may think that your pathetic life matters, but it really doesn't.

Fuck off.

[HighZombiesRule]

Fuck Rick Rizzi, what he was talking about had nothing to do with the case involved, and amounted to no more than non-sequitars and basic propaganda, which is all I've heard in all the interviews regarding the PMRC. Fuck them. I'm glad we can see in hindsight that it failed, if anything, the "Parental Advisory" stickers are more of an attraction than a repellant. Haha.

[mikeadk]

Who the fuck was this jerkoff Rizzi? He's squirming in his goddamn seat, wanting to wave the PMRC flag so badly.

[eslmc]

RIP Frank. You Rock!

[johnnymagic10]

was that Mr. Belvediere at the end?

[HandsomePrick]

People

Making

Retarded

Choices

[Bobbyeagle]

@HandsomePrick Best comment I've read today

[GordonMorrice]

Part 1 has been pulled due to WMG being cunty.

[Wowbagger86]

Irony ;)

[GordonMorrice]

Mercury!

[JAMES6FRANK]

rick rizzi is a real pud

[npspec34]

Well as long as you are talking about "winning" the PRMC didn't get the things they wanted so the "winning" didn't didn't involve them.

[thenerdistheword]

Why is that guy wearing hospital scrubs?

[smmfc]

It was in honor of the great Dr. Frank Zappa, who valiantly attempted to remedy his cranial-anal insertion syndrome on national television - but to no avail.

[puptentaclezappa]

Go listen to Herman's Hermits Ricki boy...

[flowerpunkchip]

Where is the PMRC today??

[flyingV1043]

hes a genius. the flea wagging the tail wagging the dog. brilliant.

[GreggaryPeccary]

Oh, Rick stood strong!

[tempelton]

Well Ricki sure had a lot to say! Zappa's debating style has never been that strong though. He is very adept at monologues and long, expansive answers. Where he has fallen (sometimes) is in replying point-by-point to his opponents. He also tends to get very defensive. Rick wasn't offering anything new so Zappa should have dealt with his every point head-on (including Rick's claim that Zappa was contradicting himself). Failure to do so looks weak. On a good day Zappa would have demolished Rick!

[hinneinisannidanni]

I can't imagine that Frank was a morning person. :) The thing with the monologues is maybe not so surprising given that he probably got most of his debate-training from talking to audiences at concerts. But I agree, he could be a little more concise, sometimes.

[karl198]

Zappa isn't trying to score points by 'winning' he's just stating the facts and thats all he needed to do when the argument they were making was so stupid.

[tempelton]

Karl, if you are going to debate someone you should always aim to win (or "win", as you so delicately put it). Zappa recognised that fact - the stakes (freedom of speech) were too high to simply turn up and go through the motions. Debating idiots isn't a noble past-time - it's essential to put them back in their place. To do this effectively you need to beat them down with your arguement everytime. So yes, you DO need to win. Sorry if that upsets your sensitive disposition but it's still true.

[karl198]

The stakes were high and i'm not saying he should go through the motions, what i'm trying to say is a lot of the time in these debates people try to get their point across by twisting the facts as the PMRC did all the time. Zappa didn't try to hammer home how wrong they we're since they seemed to do that themselves anyway like in the Candy Stroud debate, zappa was standing up for the constitution and showing that what they were on about with censorship was unconstitutional.

[esigus]

Frankly, Karl, I must say that I think Candy did a better job in her debate.

He appeared unprepared & her arguments blew him away.

I think he underestimated her.

I'm not saying she sold me.

I don't agree with the system, but for reasons he didn't bring up.

He made some good points but seemed lost to bring up credible reasons at the end.

I thought Charlie Rose was a dick... very one sided... like he had been fucking Candy in the green room earlier. A host should be more neutral than he was.

[equallyeasilyfuqyou]

she just kept repeating lewd lyrics like a parrot, she didn't make any real point imo.

[karl198]

And i'll need to add to this comment since i can't find the other comment you said for some reason so i'll finish the previous one by saying the fact that it was unconstitutional speaks volumes about what the PMRC were doing imo. In all fairness i suppose to get people on his side especially over tv maybe long expansive monologues wern't best.

One last thing, i don't have a sensitive disposition ;)

[tempelton]

Having just rewatched Zappa's 2nd appearance on Crossfire from the late 80's - in which FZ, refusing to play his opponent's game you could say, gave pretty much one word non-expansive answers (an ironic but sadly ineffective twist on the monologue approach) - I would again have to reiterate my earlier point about aiming to win a debate. My simple point is, if you want to deliver aloof one-word answers, that's cool, but don't expect to win any "converts" to your cause: so why debate at all?

[mikeadk]

Hey "Templeton," I seriously doubt that Frank Zappa was conductiing live experimentation on the "monologue approach" during music censorship debates. Zappa was a great proponent of his own views and more often than not vastly more knowledgeable than his "debate opponents."

[tempelton]

Dude, you miss my point. Nobody knows Frank as well as I do. I am a real fan. I was just attempting to have a nuanced and intelligent discussion over the possibility that some of this interview did not go as well as it could have. Is that permitted in the world of worshippers like you? Frank would laugh at you, as do I. :)

[mrhumanamerican]

(Wowee.) Nice attempt at associative credibility tempelton. Your brainlogic of defining a peaceably intelligent dialogue thru the baseless ridicule of others has the transparency of a fart resuscitating a baby sneeze. No one here doubts that you are fanatically involved with yourself, really. And I assume that Frank would have laughed at all you tubers,

[tempelton]

Hmmm, my answers are appearing at the end of this thread. grrr... oh well, i can't answer properly in these tiny character-counting boxes anyhow! Peace:)

[bongolicious]

Thanks KoolStrike

[KidAdventures]

Let them pay for it(y)

[rustymurphy]

great postings man, keep it up