Im glad u guys want to revive ur culture....No matter what keep up the good work on bringing ur culture back....We are Micronesians and We need to reveal our identities by showing our cultures to world......we respect each other culture...We are proud Micronesians....
We taught the Polynesians how to navigate the oceans...We bring back the lost Polynesian traditional art of Navigations.....Now the Native Hawaiian or Polynesians barrow our own Micronesian people to revive their lost culture...So whats if the chamorrou people also barrowing little copies of polynesian dance versions....We care about polynesians, and now Polynesians must also care bout Chamorro culture....We share our culture to you Polynesian, u guys should also share urs....Mahalo
dont mean to offend my Chamorro brothers but Chamorros dont do stick dances. so many Chamorro dances today are made up by todays generation so i guess its ok to say Chamorro dance because its Chamorro made but if you are to claim that you learned it from your great great great grands then i think that would be a grand mistake. in saipan we grew up studying N.M.I. history and i asure you theres no mention of Chamorro stick dances hula's or chants. Chamorro men in saipan dont stick dance.
@TheRenaissance180 ..i hear ya' bro', however the leaders of these organizations don't claim these dances were passed on by their ancestors.Colonial powers repressed so much of Chamoru culture that little is known about life prior to occupation.They merely claim them to be modern day representations of what might have been in the past. As they continue to be danced ,sooner or later, claims they were learned from great, great grands will be valid.
@waveriderz so this is what we should teach the next generation that this part of our culture is "a modern day representation of what might have been in the past"?if we continue to allow and believe this claims to be true then our past would be overshadowed by polynesian look alike culture and future generation would be lost.
@670rainman this is what's being taught whether you or i like it or not. Some of these groups use it as a way to promote language ,identity, & historical research. Is that a bad thing? Dances of many places have similarities and i don't know which ones are closest to what ""was". Migration to Polynesia occurred later than ours so knows exactly where things originated. Do you?They are not all the same.and are at least are making an effort. How does that cause us to lose our future generation?
as a pure polynesian i feel angry cuz it seems like all these dances are wannabee copies of polynesian dances im pretty sure the indigenous people of guam did not have similar moves to the hula , kailau and other polynesian dances.and in the last few thousand years there was barley if not no contact between guam and polynesia STOP COPYING AND MANIPULATING POLYNESIAN DANCES THESE ARE NOT GUAMS TRADITIONAL DANCES!
I'm sorry if my English is bad. But I am not ashamed because it is not my language. I am a full-blooded Palauan and I am proud.
Final words: Show some respect to other people's cultures and history. Respect is after all, one of the most valuable thing that we value as islanders. . . .other than that we are nothing but tiny specks of dusts on the map. . . ."e mle tauashi er ra re meklou el Beluu"
@waveriderz . . .No, arguing won't, and so is ignorance and I found out the hard way. Just being here in UOG made me realize just how ignorant I was of other people's cultures and history. I came here thinking that all I had to do was study, get a degree, and go back home. I was proud and I didn't feel the need to even bother with the people here and what their going through.After I realized that, I felt ashamed because pride and disrespect is not what I was taught back home. . .I'm sorry
. . .take a look at our Palauan traditional dances and our dance Mate'Matong. On closer look you will see a little of Marianas and Chuuckese dances incorporated in them. We even have a dance called "beluulechab" which is palauan for Yap. Call us thieves but I dont care, because our ancestors came together and rather than fighting and taking each others lands, they shared their cultures with each other! Not only that they also embraced and respected each other's cultures!
. . that I am proud to be from Micronesia, I am proud to be an island girl, to have fished in the pacific waters, chewed betelnuts, and learned my heritage, history and values. Island Values such as respect, families, and traditions are at instilled with in me from my people. I love this movie and the culture of the Chamorros. I also agree that cultures are learned and influence one another. . .
cont. and now here you are, arguing amongst yourselves that who is better than who or who is really from where. The fact remains that we were all inferiors as islanders and we share a history, our people suffered so much and we are still suffering today because our people are struggling to keep up both economically and socially with nations such as: Japan, U.S, etc. We are specks of dusts in the sea. . .but I will come forward and say. . .
I can't believe you guys are arguing about these issues. Here you guys are arguing about our identities and our cultures.When all of our pacific people has suffered under the Germans, Spanish, Japanese, and the Americans. History speaks out that we, the pacific islanders and our homes, were nothing more than piece of prize to the inferior countries. They took our lands, enslaved our people, and they spread diseases in each islands with or without our premissions! cont.
k to all those people dissing.... its spelled CHAMORRO! And i dont know who put this video up but dont diss cuz this is my culture and im from saipan! i dot diss ur culture so shut ur mouth
My comments goes out to those who disrespect Micronesia region it seems like Chummoros are trying to hard to b similar to Polynesia when Caroline islands are closer to Polynesia then the marinas
Nauru kirabiti chuuk and Pohnpei carry Polynesian Melanesian blood so is the culture. Kapingamarangi and nukuoro carry 100% Polynesian blood these to islands belongs to Pohnpei so chuumoros don't say y'all close to polys then micros cuz we drink kava and hula Chehhooo fuck out of Guam
You can't say Micronesian dance cuz every island in Micronesia are different pohnpeians carry the blood of Polynesians and Melanesians don't know bout chuuk I heard people of Guam Aka Chummoros there culture similar to southeast Asians so is yap
Y'all Chummoros are dumb fucks when you talk Micronesia y'all don't know Micronesia is a region Chuuk island is n hour flight to Guam pohnpeians some are full blooded Polynesians who came to Pohnpei centuries ago and most pohnpeians are Melanesians mix
@85darson ..you take the comments of a few people and then call a whole group of people "dumb f...ks". A little disrespectful isn't it? They don't speak for everyone any more than you do .Anyone can claim to be what they want to be on the internet, including you. Your expertise in anthropology qualify you to make these statements? We all come from different places so what's the big deal anyway?...Aloha
@rastamoru chamorro's are micronesian. Micronesian isn't a race it is a section of islands the pacific. The pacific is sectioned into 3 parts. Melanesia, Micronesia, and polynesia.
honestly, if you compare the micronesian dances with the chamorro dances they have no similarities, the chamorro dances by the males are more like the warrior type dances similar to the polynesians. i've watched many of the male micronesian dances and they are way different, more mellow and more chanting. if anything our culture and some of our languages are closer to the polynesian side of the pacific.
so much criticism of the so called pre hispanic dance styles. we should stick to our chamorro hispanic dances because they best represent the Chamorro culture. a blend of both native & hispanic influences. if we did so, we would not get all the negative comments. there is a whole hispanic world out there waiting to see our dances. & they wont criticize us because they share the same colonial history with us. the USA has succeeded in making us forget & resent our hispanic heritage. or have they?
@kuraku3 its up to us to reclaim the hispanic part of our identity. the USA has tried to impose an ANGLO-PROTESTANT way of being onto our HISPANIC/LATINO-CATHOLIC culture. Even to this day there are many conflicts because of these two opposing schools of thought. Until you study Hispanic/Latino culture, you will never fully understand what it means to be Chamorro. It is the component of our cutlure that the USA wanted to eliminate. And unfortunately they have succeeded in some respects.
chamrror peopel make up thier dances...they didn't make stick dance war....it was the micronesian.....and they don't even make grass skirt dance....like wth...so no wonder why the spanish call these place "THE HOME OF THE STEALER"
@richyrik1 ...actually they didn't call it the "the home of the stealer" . Your phrase indicates a singular individual. It was called "island of thieves"by the Spanish, and it wasn't in reference to stick dance or grass skirts. Chamoru people were around long before the Spanish took Guam's land from it's people, so who was the bigger thief? Ya' might wanna' study a little more history before commenting on any group of people?
hey...you guys are the thiefs.....you copy micronesian stick war dances.....even hawaiian dances....you are the one that should study......my social studies teacher is a chamorro and he told us that chamorro dance are made up.....and he also told us that you guys didn't even do stick war dances....you guys " ONLY CHANT"(sing)......so your the one that need chamorro lesson cus im not chamorro and i learn something at school
@richyrik1 i wish it was that simple. Culture evolves over time as a response to events in it's history. As long as people interact with the outside world we will be influenced by it one way or another.My statement to you wasn't meant to offend you, however calling everyone a thief doesn't send a very positive message.
@richyrik1 we are Micronesian people and your ignorant of what we did it was custom to get from those that take from them bone head learn something before you speak you are not a cultured enough to speak of Guam grow up.
Hula dancing, Maori haka, and Filipino stick dance. Way too perserve the Polynesia culture and the Tagalog way of life. Wait a minute aren't these people Micronesians. I wonder if they are passing on the Ukele to the younger generations. GOOD JOB for Lost Tribe.
i wish the dance masters of chamorro-hispanic dance can still be influenced by the hispanic culture of today. the music and the dances. just as chamorro dance takes influences from polynesian styles. i was in mexico recently and i was amazed the similarities of the dances to ours. but theirs was more colorful. i wonder if dance masters are using youtube as a tool to study the dances of the hispanic world. there is much we can learn about the part of our history that we have been made to forget.
can somebody explain to me the history of some of the costumes? if i remember correctly, the original chamorros did not wear grass skirts and coconut bras. im glad this video also showcases the hispanic dances because dance is meant to tell a story and the hipanic dances tell the story of our history as a spanish colony. a fact that other islanders cannot appreciate and respect. i hate when other islanders criticize chamorros for being part hispanic in their culture. they are ignorant.
Guam was occupied by Spain for 300 years, however it's people existed long before the Spanish. Much description of attire was written by Spaniards at that point in time. No one really knows what they wore originally, however we still search for answers. Grass skirts & coconuts seems have been an influence of Chamoru dancers who have studied under Polynesians . Most Pacific islands have been influenced by others, and we all have some degree of ignorance, so no worry about criticism, seek answers.
lol..magahet hao.bunitu!..nihi ta fan protehi i kutturata ya ta fanague i famaguonta i lenguahita..sa an ti ta chogue enao, siempre un dia matai i kuturata....
-SI YU'US MA'ASE GINEN I GURUPUN INATUAS GINEN ISLAN SAIPAN
im from saipan and i like micronesian girls..and polynesian girls..and melenisian girls..mmmm you can shake it anyway you like baby
tony1981ization 3 months ago
Hello chammoroanese, Im from FSM.
Im glad u guys want to revive ur culture....No matter what keep up the good work on bringing ur culture back....We are Micronesians and We need to reveal our identities by showing our cultures to world......we respect each other culture...We are proud Micronesians....
SounkawadenTomwara 3 months ago
We taught the Polynesians how to navigate the oceans...We bring back the lost Polynesian traditional art of Navigations.....Now the Native Hawaiian or Polynesians barrow our own Micronesian people to revive their lost culture...So whats if the chamorrou people also barrowing little copies of polynesian dance versions....We care about polynesians, and now Polynesians must also care bout Chamorro culture....We share our culture to you Polynesian, u guys should also share urs....Mahalo
SounkawadenTomwara 3 months ago
dont mean to offend my Chamorro brothers but Chamorros dont do stick dances. so many Chamorro dances today are made up by todays generation so i guess its ok to say Chamorro dance because its Chamorro made but if you are to claim that you learned it from your great great great grands then i think that would be a grand mistake. in saipan we grew up studying N.M.I. history and i asure you theres no mention of Chamorro stick dances hula's or chants. Chamorro men in saipan dont stick dance.
TheRenaissance180 5 months ago
@TheRenaissance180 ..i hear ya' bro', however the leaders of these organizations don't claim these dances were passed on by their ancestors.Colonial powers repressed so much of Chamoru culture that little is known about life prior to occupation.They merely claim them to be modern day representations of what might have been in the past. As they continue to be danced ,sooner or later, claims they were learned from great, great grands will be valid.
waveriderz 5 months ago
@waveriderz so this is what we should teach the next generation that this part of our culture is "a modern day representation of what might have been in the past"?if we continue to allow and believe this claims to be true then our past would be overshadowed by polynesian look alike culture and future generation would be lost.
670rainman 3 months ago
@670rainman this is what's being taught whether you or i like it or not. Some of these groups use it as a way to promote language ,identity, & historical research. Is that a bad thing? Dances of many places have similarities and i don't know which ones are closest to what ""was". Migration to Polynesia occurred later than ours so knows exactly where things originated. Do you?They are not all the same.and are at least are making an effort. How does that cause us to lose our future generation?
waveriderz 3 months ago
as a pure polynesian i feel angry cuz it seems like all these dances are wannabee copies of polynesian dances im pretty sure the indigenous people of guam did not have similar moves to the hula , kailau and other polynesian dances.and in the last few thousand years there was barley if not no contact between guam and polynesia STOP COPYING AND MANIPULATING POLYNESIAN DANCES THESE ARE NOT GUAMS TRADITIONAL DANCES!
KaNaKa5wuno 6 months ago
I'm sorry if my English is bad. But I am not ashamed because it is not my language. I am a full-blooded Palauan and I am proud.
Final words: Show some respect to other people's cultures and history. Respect is after all, one of the most valuable thing that we value as islanders. . . .other than that we are nothing but tiny specks of dusts on the map. . . ."e mle tauashi er ra re meklou el Beluu"
rengelliz 9 months ago
@rengelliz ...words to live by friend. We have much to preserve, and much to learn, from each other.
Will arguing about things really help in moving us forward?
waveriderz 8 months ago
@waveriderz . . .No, arguing won't, and so is ignorance and I found out the hard way. Just being here in UOG made me realize just how ignorant I was of other people's cultures and history. I came here thinking that all I had to do was study, get a degree, and go back home. I was proud and I didn't feel the need to even bother with the people here and what their going through.After I realized that, I felt ashamed because pride and disrespect is not what I was taught back home. . .I'm sorry
rengelliz 8 months ago
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rengelliz 9 months ago
. . .take a look at our Palauan traditional dances and our dance Mate'Matong. On closer look you will see a little of Marianas and Chuuckese dances incorporated in them. We even have a dance called "beluulechab" which is palauan for Yap. Call us thieves but I dont care, because our ancestors came together and rather than fighting and taking each others lands, they shared their cultures with each other! Not only that they also embraced and respected each other's cultures!
rengelliz 9 months ago
. . that I am proud to be from Micronesia, I am proud to be an island girl, to have fished in the pacific waters, chewed betelnuts, and learned my heritage, history and values. Island Values such as respect, families, and traditions are at instilled with in me from my people. I love this movie and the culture of the Chamorros. I also agree that cultures are learned and influence one another. . .
rengelliz 9 months ago
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rengelliz 9 months ago
cont. and now here you are, arguing amongst yourselves that who is better than who or who is really from where. The fact remains that we were all inferiors as islanders and we share a history, our people suffered so much and we are still suffering today because our people are struggling to keep up both economically and socially with nations such as: Japan, U.S, etc. We are specks of dusts in the sea. . .but I will come forward and say. . .
rengelliz 9 months ago
I can't believe you guys are arguing about these issues. Here you guys are arguing about our identities and our cultures.When all of our pacific people has suffered under the Germans, Spanish, Japanese, and the Americans. History speaks out that we, the pacific islanders and our homes, were nothing more than piece of prize to the inferior countries. They took our lands, enslaved our people, and they spread diseases in each islands with or without our premissions! cont.
rengelliz 9 months ago
k to all those people dissing.... its spelled CHAMORRO! And i dont know who put this video up but dont diss cuz this is my culture and im from saipan! i dot diss ur culture so shut ur mouth
nomz670 9 months ago
My comments goes out to those who disrespect Micronesia region it seems like Chummoros are trying to hard to b similar to Polynesia when Caroline islands are closer to Polynesia then the marinas
85darson 11 months ago
Nauru kirabiti chuuk and Pohnpei carry Polynesian Melanesian blood so is the culture. Kapingamarangi and nukuoro carry 100% Polynesian blood these to islands belongs to Pohnpei so chuumoros don't say y'all close to polys then micros cuz we drink kava and hula Chehhooo fuck out of Guam
85darson 11 months ago
You can't say Micronesian dance cuz every island in Micronesia are different pohnpeians carry the blood of Polynesians and Melanesians don't know bout chuuk I heard people of Guam Aka Chummoros there culture similar to southeast Asians so is yap
85darson 11 months ago
Y'all Chummoros are dumb fucks when you talk Micronesia y'all don't know Micronesia is a region Chuuk island is n hour flight to Guam pohnpeians some are full blooded Polynesians who came to Pohnpei centuries ago and most pohnpeians are Melanesians mix
85darson 11 months ago
@85darson ..you take the comments of a few people and then call a whole group of people "dumb f...ks". A little disrespectful isn't it? They don't speak for everyone any more than you do .Anyone can claim to be what they want to be on the internet, including you. Your expertise in anthropology qualify you to make these statements? We all come from different places so what's the big deal anyway?...Aloha
waveriderz 11 months ago
@rastamoru chamorro's are micronesian. Micronesian isn't a race it is a section of islands the pacific. The pacific is sectioned into 3 parts. Melanesia, Micronesia, and polynesia.
DOITislandstyle671 1 year ago
honestly, if you compare the micronesian dances with the chamorro dances they have no similarities, the chamorro dances by the males are more like the warrior type dances similar to the polynesians. i've watched many of the male micronesian dances and they are way different, more mellow and more chanting. if anything our culture and some of our languages are closer to the polynesian side of the pacific.
rastamoru 1 year ago
so much criticism of the so called pre hispanic dance styles. we should stick to our chamorro hispanic dances because they best represent the Chamorro culture. a blend of both native & hispanic influences. if we did so, we would not get all the negative comments. there is a whole hispanic world out there waiting to see our dances. & they wont criticize us because they share the same colonial history with us. the USA has succeeded in making us forget & resent our hispanic heritage. or have they?
kuraku3 1 year ago
@kuraku3 its up to us to reclaim the hispanic part of our identity. the USA has tried to impose an ANGLO-PROTESTANT way of being onto our HISPANIC/LATINO-CATHOLIC culture. Even to this day there are many conflicts because of these two opposing schools of thought. Until you study Hispanic/Latino culture, you will never fully understand what it means to be Chamorro. It is the component of our cutlure that the USA wanted to eliminate. And unfortunately they have succeeded in some respects.
kuraku3 1 year ago
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kuraku3 1 year ago
looks like stolen dances from Hawaii. They lost their culture long ago...
afsocpuma 1 year ago
i love that song i fogot the name lol
guchol87 1 year ago
chamrror peopel make up thier dances...they didn't make stick dance war....it was the micronesian.....and they don't even make grass skirt dance....like wth...so no wonder why the spanish call these place "THE HOME OF THE STEALER"
richyrik1 1 year ago
@richyrik1 ...actually they didn't call it the "the home of the stealer" . Your phrase indicates a singular individual. It was called "island of thieves"by the Spanish, and it wasn't in reference to stick dance or grass skirts. Chamoru people were around long before the Spanish took Guam's land from it's people, so who was the bigger thief? Ya' might wanna' study a little more history before commenting on any group of people?
waveriderz 1 year ago 2
@waveriderz
hey...you guys are the thiefs.....you copy micronesian stick war dances.....even hawaiian dances....you are the one that should study......my social studies teacher is a chamorro and he told us that chamorro dance are made up.....and he also told us that you guys didn't even do stick war dances....you guys " ONLY CHANT"(sing)......so your the one that need chamorro lesson cus im not chamorro and i learn something at school
richyrik1 1 year ago
@richyrik1 i wish it was that simple. Culture evolves over time as a response to events in it's history. As long as people interact with the outside world we will be influenced by it one way or another.My statement to you wasn't meant to offend you, however calling everyone a thief doesn't send a very positive message.
waveriderz 1 year ago
@richyrik1 most of the chamorro dances are rituals and we do do stick dances, wets ur not even chamorro so back of u dont know s**t.
austinreyes670 11 months ago
@richyrik1 hey u better freekn back off wetz your not even chamorro u only got your resources from one person so shutup
austinreyes670 11 months ago
@richyrik1 we are Micronesian people and your ignorant of what we did it was custom to get from those that take from them bone head learn something before you speak you are not a cultured enough to speak of Guam grow up.
halfachamorro 1 year ago
Hula dancing, Maori haka, and Filipino stick dance. Way too perserve the Polynesia culture and the Tagalog way of life. Wait a minute aren't these people Micronesians. I wonder if they are passing on the Ukele to the younger generations. GOOD JOB for Lost Tribe.
680awanai 1 year ago
@680awanai lol so true
afsocpuma 1 year ago
i wish the dance masters of chamorro-hispanic dance can still be influenced by the hispanic culture of today. the music and the dances. just as chamorro dance takes influences from polynesian styles. i was in mexico recently and i was amazed the similarities of the dances to ours. but theirs was more colorful. i wonder if dance masters are using youtube as a tool to study the dances of the hispanic world. there is much we can learn about the part of our history that we have been made to forget.
islanchamoru 1 year ago
can somebody explain to me the history of some of the costumes? if i remember correctly, the original chamorros did not wear grass skirts and coconut bras. im glad this video also showcases the hispanic dances because dance is meant to tell a story and the hipanic dances tell the story of our history as a spanish colony. a fact that other islanders cannot appreciate and respect. i hate when other islanders criticize chamorros for being part hispanic in their culture. they are ignorant.
cham0rro 1 year ago 3
Guam was occupied by Spain for 300 years, however it's people existed long before the Spanish. Much description of attire was written by Spaniards at that point in time. No one really knows what they wore originally, however we still search for answers. Grass skirts & coconuts seems have been an influence of Chamoru dancers who have studied under Polynesians . Most Pacific islands have been influenced by others, and we all have some degree of ignorance, so no worry about criticism, seek answers.
waveriderz 1 year ago
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L00KER68 2 years ago
lol..magahet hao.bunitu!..nihi ta fan protehi i kutturata ya ta fanague i famaguonta i lenguahita..sa an ti ta chogue enao, siempre un dia matai i kuturata....
-SI YU'US MA'ASE GINEN I GURUPUN INATUAS GINEN ISLAN SAIPAN
inatuas 2 years ago
...lol...thanks, but i don't see a single ew...when i see Guam's youth doing things to preserve their culture all i have are positive images...
waveriderz 2 years ago
beautiful!..but i look ew in the clips that you have of us..lol
inatuas 2 years ago