What RTÉ don't show you - Farage V's Roche - Lisbon II

[arthur1411]

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[AiltiriNahAiseirghe]

How to solve Irelands problem and get out of debt slavery.(iv)

Within two years, the unemployment problem had been solved, and Germany was back on its feet. It had a solid, stable currency, with no debt, and no inflation, at a time when millions of people in the United States and other Western countries (controlled by international bankers) were still out of work. Within five years, Germany went from the poorest nation in Europe to the richest.

[AiltiriNahAiseirghe]

How to solve Irelands problem and get out of debt slavery. (iii)

Hitler said, "For every mark issued, we required the equivalent of a mark's worth of work done, or goods produced." The government paid workers in Certificates. Workers spent those Certificates on other goods and services, thus creating more jobs for more people. In this way the German people climbed out of the crushing debt imposed on them by the international bankers.

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[AiltiriNahAiseirghe]

How to solve Irelands problem and get out of debt slavery. (ii)

The German government (not the international bankers) issued bills of exchange, called Labor Treasury Certificates. In this way the National Socialists put millions of people to work, and paid them with Treasury Certificates.

Under the National Socialists, Germany’s money wasn't backed by gold (which was owned by the international bankers). It was essentially a receipt for labor and materials delivered to the government.

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[AiltiriNahAiseirghe]

How to solve Irelands problem and get out of debt slavery.

Germany had no choice but to succumb to debt slavery under international bankers until 1933, when the National Socialists came to power. At that point the German government thwarted the international banking cartels by issuing its own money. World Jewry responded by declaring a global boycott against Germany.

[zebra0456]

I'm an American but I have more faith in the European Union and Mr. Farage than my own Government and Obama.

[45vincentconnolly]

Dick fucker Roache lost his seat yesterday, twice! Lol! No seat for you traitor!

[kndalnedy]

Its funny I don't think I've ever met anyone who actually admitted voting for Lisbon so how the hell did it get through?????????

[NumberDne]

@kndalnedy I really do think that the 2nd Lisbon treaty vote was rigged in Ireland. There was so much riding on it across europe that the irish government must have been told to rig the vote.

[creativebollocks]

@kndalnedy It's also impossible to find anyone who buys Spice Girls CDs, but by the ton do they sell em!!

[britpatRIOT100]

cockroche the traitor look at him wearing a green tie as if hes representing Ireland hes selling them out

[riemann1901]

After about 28 seconds Nigel Farage accuses his counterpart of "making comments that would never be made by any British politician".

Really?!?!

Wasn't it Tory leader David Cameron who said UKIP is sort of a bunch of fruitcakes and loonies and closet racists, mostly.?

[waaeaa]

IT'S OFFICIAL: LEFTIES IN UK , FORCED MASS-IMMIGRATION

Huge increases in immigration were a deliberate attempt to engineer a more multicultural Britain, a former Government adviser said.

Andrew Neather, who worked for Tony Blair+Jack Straw, said Labours relaxation of controls was a plan to 'open up the UK to mass migration'.

They hoped to change the country radically and 'rub the Right's nose in diversity'.

Mail24/10/09

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[wtfhotdogsandmilf]

i cant vote they blocked the servers in england =( so i cant access their site

[uploader10041986]

Once again good triumphed over evil

[endofearthdays]

I voted no on Lisbon but I would still have liked to see the response here at the end you know-balanced arguments and all that.

[squidcreek]

I don't trust any of you politicians or the snake oil you're selling!

[uploader10041986]

Nick Farage should shag off home

[FreedomFighterUK]

it's Nigel Farage.

[Robbie11224]

i hate dat cunt dick roche another reason why t vote no

[VoteNOtoLisbonTreaty]

Watch my video! Irland is not the only country who dares to say NO

[1957Rotu]

At one stage, I thought that perhaps Dick Roche was a deaf mute. No response from him whatsoever to any of Farage's comments. And then the fiendishly clever The European Agenda stops the footage before Roche can make his "four" points. That's the problem with the 'No' side. They're not even prepared to listen to the views of the other side of the argument. So, in the final analysis, they learn absolutely nothing. The European Agenda would have made a great film censor back in the bad old days.

[ikeano29]

can you tell me the arguments for the yes side please!?

[1957Rotu]

Four main arguments:

1 To support the Charter of Fundamental Rights - this will enable greater development of human rights and social protections for EU citizens

2. For greater democracy in decision-making at EU level - because Lisbon would give the Parliament more powers.

3. It is in our economnic interests for us to vote yes - to preserve the goodwill of our neighbours in recessionary times.

4. To inject greater economic confidence into the European Union as a whole.

[ikeano29]

ok, thanks. now can you tell me where it say's all this in the lisbon treaty please? i have it here in front of me so if you'd like to tell me what pages to read this up on, thanks.

[ikeano29]

30minute's later and im still waiting for you to tell me where it say's all this.

[1957Rotu]

It's quite complex. You will also need to have in front of you copies of the Treaty on European Union 1992, including the European Community Treaty (with the post-Amsterdam Treaty Article numbers), and Protocol No. 2 on the application of the Principles of Subsidiarity and Proportionality, as well as the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties.

So, if you could dig out these documents, I could help you to work through the various legal provisions which are supportive of my 4 main arguments.

[ikeano29]

i have them all here in front of me (thats what i love about google) go ahead, just tell me where and what article's your four points are, thanks.

[1957Rotu]

Sorry, but you would need to have the paper copies of all of the documents in front of you. Because there will be a high degree of instantaneous cross-referencing. So what I would suggest is that you go into Government Publications on Monday and buy the documents and I can explain the interaction of the different Treaty provisions to you on Monday.

Either that or you can print out all 1400 pages. Only problem, however, is that my pint of plain is now waiting for me in Mulligans pub. "Yessss."

[ikeano29]

but i actually have all the documents in front of me, im using a few different pdf readers.

[bettertobealive]

Bollocks.

[HemiHead66]

Do you really believe that development of human rights crap you're spewing? Just look how they care about their own people's rights. You can't even spit on the ground in that shit-hole without someone watching. And it's all to protect you from the "terrorists." Ah, those pesky terrorists. You can thank the same people you're supporting for them to. Ya keep poking around into other people's lives and that's what you get.

[JohnMerrick93]

VOTE YES on October 2nd, don't become part of the British Nationalist UKIP agenda.

[TheEuropeanAgenda]

VOTE NO and tell the Irish Elite that they can't sell our constitution for a couple of Euros!

[ogello]

So lets become part of a european fascist agenda? which is much better? Where in the world do you get the idea that less sovereignty is gained by voting no?

[TheEuropeanAgenda]

Remember folks Turkey doesn't even have a social welfare system. That is a fact, not a racist slur...,

[Alihan12]

@TheEuropeanAgenda

It is not a racist slur maybe but an ignorant comment. Of course, turkey has a social welfare system. Furthermore, despite mass media manipulation supporting Turkey to be an EU member , latest polls in Turkey show that the public has a fifty-fifty stance on the issue. I still fail to see why all the people in Europe think that all the Turks want to join. I, for example don't want to join the EU.

[Seano71]

Dick Roche is the guy who let the go ahead for the bypass at Tara, even though works found artifacts. He has disregard for our history, so what makes you think he care about anything else in this nation?

[mikesmithglos]

Sounds like the RTE is as bad as the BBC. I wonder if RTE also gets low interest loans from the EU??

[39Auldkellier]

There all the same rte and the bbc as are main stream politicians, both following what the powerful lobbests want in europe

[GarGPS]

where can i see the full debate

[TheEuropeanAgenda]

NO TO LIES - NO TO LISBON

Don't trust the our self-serving Elite who want to sell the country for a few Euros!

[TheEuropeanAgenda]

They say vote yes for the ECONOMY; now let's not speculate here. How has the EU helped us in our current difficulties? Where are all these jobs? How did the EU protect jobs in the last 18 months? Why is the Polish economy the best performing in the EU? (I suspect its something to do with DELL and the like). Mark my words: THE RACE TO THE BOTTOM IN EUROPE IS ON FOLKS!!!

[TheEuropeanAgenda]

NEWS JUST IN - the EU has in the last hour (Saturday and all) announced they have a new fund for DELL workers...... Buy me Mr. Barrosso, buy me! To put this into context € 15 million would barely cover lunch money for the Dell employees and the others that are out of jobs because of these relocations!!! - (this comment has been sponsored by the NWO)

[kndalnedy]

@TheEuropeanAgenda

Dell are already finished in Poland they sold up

Its funny I don't think I've ever met anyone who actually admitted voting for Lisbon so how the hell did it get through?????????

[snaed27]

you did it before do it again VOTE NO

Ireland for the Irish

[huckteeper]

Of course RTE won't show you this. The scumbags who are paid through your taxes and your TV license don't feel they have any need to represent your views.

[Spenner56]

IRELAND !

IF you want to keep your nationality,constitution,healt­h care,police,judges,habeaus corpus and own laws...vote NO !

IF you believe in a Europe that is not a superstate but based on a partnership of sovereign,peace-loving nations vote...NO !

IF you prefer democracy to being ruled by an un-elected commission...vote NO !

PLEASE do it for yourselves,for us and for all of our children !

Good luck from Germany.

[Gaeilge2000]

fuck lisbon, fuck roach

[aiyic]

Where and when was this?

[TheEuropeanAgenda]

Dublin, Monday the 7th of September.

[aiyic]

Okay, what was the platform? Who organised it? I'd love to see the whole thing.

[lisbonslayer]

HE WOULD SELL HIS MOTHER FOR A EURO

remember people time to stamp out corruption for good and all , with A RESOUNDING NO TO LIS/CON 2

[sirhcelah]

cock roach gets stamped on

[TheEuropeanAgenda]

Exactly what the traitor deserves.

[griffin6290]

VOTE NO TO LISBON!!!!!!