@Shivasyn13 That varies from art to art. Some styles of karate have it at the end, some have it during the punch, some don't turn at all, preferring a vertical punch (Isshinryu is a good example).
Sometimes I wonder how Bruce Lee would have fared, in light workouts or full-contact sparring; against Kanazawa, Enoeda, Kubota, Ueshiba, Bong Soo Han, Jim Arvanitis, etc. Each was renowned for extraordinary sensitivity, speed and power. As far as I know, BL never worked out with any of them. Perhaps he would have come out on top; perhaps their respective skill levels were near or beyond his --
@stevevandien Now, Lee scholarship is ongoing. Perhaps we shall learn one day that he DID work out with other martial artists of exceptional caliber, and DETAILS about those sessions. (Let's throw Angel Cabales, Remy Presas and William C.C. Chen into the mix as well:)).
Bruce Lee may not be a master to some but he is a "master" in his own right. I mean, he wasn't Ip Man, Grandmaster Tatsuo Shimabuku, or even Soke Masaaki Hatsumi, but give credit where credit is due. Don't belittle his accomplishments by saying, "he just learn" or "he didn't learn" Just like Shimabuku Sensai, who took Gojuryu and Shorinryu and created Isshinryu, he took what he needed from different forms and created a new.
@IowaEncaged Bruce lee wasnt really a "master" He didnt even learn the entire system. He just learned the empty hand techniques and then studied boxing and fencing to create jeet kune do.
@delta024 it's kinetic energy + muscle power. 1/2 mv^2 is kinetic energy, but obviously cannot be applied here, it's way more complicated than that since the human body isn't rigid, plus it's connected to the ground via friction(where extra muscle force comes into play). mgh is probably so they can make the comparison with the bowling ball being dropped, which would hold potential energy.
@mrkiky What I'm suprised they don't mention is Fdsin(theta) for the power within torque of the hips and the rotation of the arm (Translational and rotatioal acellaration), which in theory is where the true power is created in a karate punch.
@delta024 I'm not surprised. They just wanted to make the show more sciency so they added those formulas. It's really hard to calculate the power of a blow since, if you perform it correctly, it's supposed to use the whole body most of the times. You have forces , acceleration, masses and elasticity that are very hard to calculate, but if you neglect them the end result will differ too greatly from the true value. Better just measure it.
in my personal opinion a palm strike is more powerful, less tissue and bone absorbing the blow, and a more focused strike point, although if done wrong, it could turn for the worse, Breaking your wrist
I know Human Weapon can botch information every now and then so I just thought I'd throw in that..if you get a Karate practicioner who has been studying this powerfull art for the majority of his/her life exectuting this punch to the solar plexus, you don't have soft tissue damage, you have death
Robert...all Bruce Lee proved is that he had tremendous connection to the floor and delivered it through a very quick, short punch. Which is a benchmark of karate techniques. Connection to the floor, body dynamics and transition through the technique. Almost any karate sensei can do a one-inch punch if they have good knowledge of body connection.
@Wenner9 From your experience, do karate punches generally rely on the feet remaining absolutely stationary throughout the move or do they make use of momentum from small movements starting from the feet and accelerating through the entire body to unload from the fists?
@N0hN4me Most martial arts that I have researched and the one I currently train in generate power from the toes through the hips all the way to the end of the punch. You create the most power using the hips and proper Footwork. Oh and most importantly is the relaxation untill the final moment of the blow. When it comes to striking, you rely on the mass of your body"weight" and the speed of the attack IF you use hip. The strength of your arms is probably the least important for pure punchPower
@robertvoice omg a guy who likes Bruce Lee but refers to karare as to ''Karate....'' I dont get it. Are you a little dragon or smth? o.O Karate kicks ass and rules over all forms of kung fu. Ever. Just search the tube for impacts between kiokushin and some ''drunken shaolin puk'' or smth
I practice muay thai, bust from sparring with karate students i can totally agree on how much that punch hurts.
ZadroOtrebor 2 weeks ago
The twisting of the hand is quite wrong :) They should animate the rotation at the end.
Shivasyn13 3 months ago
@Shivasyn13 That varies from art to art. Some styles of karate have it at the end, some have it during the punch, some don't turn at all, preferring a vertical punch (Isshinryu is a good example).
Altonahk 3 weeks ago
Sometimes I wonder how Bruce Lee would have fared, in light workouts or full-contact sparring; against Kanazawa, Enoeda, Kubota, Ueshiba, Bong Soo Han, Jim Arvanitis, etc. Each was renowned for extraordinary sensitivity, speed and power. As far as I know, BL never worked out with any of them. Perhaps he would have come out on top; perhaps their respective skill levels were near or beyond his --
stevevandien 3 months ago
@stevevandien Now, Lee scholarship is ongoing. Perhaps we shall learn one day that he DID work out with other martial artists of exceptional caliber, and DETAILS about those sessions. (Let's throw Angel Cabales, Remy Presas and William C.C. Chen into the mix as well:)).
stevevandien 3 months ago
i like the way they are showing it wrong... and yes i do karate.
iverbob 3 months ago
So punch him in the stomach? Thanks, I never would have thought of that.
TaekwondoFitness101 4 months ago
Bruce Lee may not be a master to some but he is a "master" in his own right. I mean, he wasn't Ip Man, Grandmaster Tatsuo Shimabuku, or even Soke Masaaki Hatsumi, but give credit where credit is due. Don't belittle his accomplishments by saying, "he just learn" or "he didn't learn" Just like Shimabuku Sensai, who took Gojuryu and Shorinryu and created Isshinryu, he took what he needed from different forms and created a new.
BlakOpzDragon 4 months ago
@IowaEncaged Bruce lee wasnt really a "master" He didnt even learn the entire system. He just learned the empty hand techniques and then studied boxing and fencing to create jeet kune do.
toyhut2 6 months ago
@toyhut2 As well as Judo - Jui-Jitsu - multiple other martial arts. Not to mention he trained WC for a number of years.
Xandralina69 5 months ago
it's fun cuz the darker body always gets hit (no,i'm not racist,just observing)
wise0beast 8 months ago 2
I have studied this for about 8 years now and I would say it took me about 6 to understand how to do it, it hurts :0
MetallicaSucksPl0x 9 months ago
MGH=1/2 mv^2 I dont know how MGH applys here considering the punch is straight and not using potential energy.. :/
delta024 10 months ago
@delta024 it's kinetic energy + muscle power. 1/2 mv^2 is kinetic energy, but obviously cannot be applied here, it's way more complicated than that since the human body isn't rigid, plus it's connected to the ground via friction(where extra muscle force comes into play). mgh is probably so they can make the comparison with the bowling ball being dropped, which would hold potential energy.
mrkiky 10 months ago
@mrkiky What I'm suprised they don't mention is Fdsin(theta) for the power within torque of the hips and the rotation of the arm (Translational and rotatioal acellaration), which in theory is where the true power is created in a karate punch.
delta024 9 months ago
@delta024 I'm not surprised. They just wanted to make the show more sciency so they added those formulas. It's really hard to calculate the power of a blow since, if you perform it correctly, it's supposed to use the whole body most of the times. You have forces , acceleration, masses and elasticity that are very hard to calculate, but if you neglect them the end result will differ too greatly from the true value. Better just measure it.
mrkiky 9 months ago
in my personal opinion a palm strike is more powerful, less tissue and bone absorbing the blow, and a more focused strike point, although if done wrong, it could turn for the worse, Breaking your wrist
Umimugo 11 months ago
why does the dark guy always stand there waiting to get his ass kicked?
Dark guy:When do I get a turn?
Light guy:Shut up!
wisewarrior7 1 year ago 2
@wisewarrior7 well the dark guy is the light guy's slave... obviously
madeofhatred 10 months ago
@madeofhatred lol wow
wisewarrior7 10 months ago
i feel sorry for the darker grey guy when does he get a go
DarrenFerguson1 1 year ago
I know Human Weapon can botch information every now and then so I just thought I'd throw in that..if you get a Karate practicioner who has been studying this powerfull art for the majority of his/her life exectuting this punch to the solar plexus, you don't have soft tissue damage, you have death
Saforge 1 year ago
its Seiken Chudan Tsuki
MSAlex23 1 year ago
It's very powerfull :)
xxKORDIANxx 1 year ago
doesn't matter what martial arts you use, but how well you use it.
mitchinat 1 year ago 73
@mitchinat If 2 people both use a different martial art equally as well, the variable ends up on which is the better martial art usually.
gbatemper123 11 months ago
@mitchinat i beg to differ
seidlej 5 months ago
@mitchinat THANK YOU; my friend keeps bragging about how much Hun Gar kung fu is better than shotokan karate
theclash181 5 months ago
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@mitchinat I think Bruce Lee said that ?
PanzarMetal 3 months ago
Robert...all Bruce Lee proved is that he had tremendous connection to the floor and delivered it through a very quick, short punch. Which is a benchmark of karate techniques. Connection to the floor, body dynamics and transition through the technique. Almost any karate sensei can do a one-inch punch if they have good knowledge of body connection.
Wenner9 1 year ago 13
@Wenner9 That is the thing: That karate punch is the basic chinese punch! Only the Kyokushin karate (as karate, I mean) has a good punch job.
robertvoice 1 year ago
@Wenner9 Bruce lee is a Wing Chun master not karate. Ip man is his teacher, and he just so happeneds to be the best master who ever lived.
IowaEncaged 8 months ago
@Wenner9 pardon me ^^ any martial artist... with good knowledge of fiste techniques...
onibaku3 7 months ago
@Wenner9 From your experience, do karate punches generally rely on the feet remaining absolutely stationary throughout the move or do they make use of momentum from small movements starting from the feet and accelerating through the entire body to unload from the fists?
N0hN4me 6 months ago
@N0hN4me Most martial arts that I have researched and the one I currently train in generate power from the toes through the hips all the way to the end of the punch. You create the most power using the hips and proper Footwork. Oh and most importantly is the relaxation untill the final moment of the blow. When it comes to striking, you rely on the mass of your body"weight" and the speed of the attack IF you use hip. The strength of your arms is probably the least important for pure punchPower
Xandralina69 5 months ago
-,- Karate.......... That punch is too slow. You don't need distance to punch with real strengh. Bruce Lee demostrated that.
robertvoice 2 years ago
Watch some karate (traditional) championships and then tell us a "tsuki" is slow.
AsamiyaShin1978 2 years ago 2
@robertvoice omg a guy who likes Bruce Lee but refers to karare as to ''Karate....'' I dont get it. Are you a little dragon or smth? o.O Karate kicks ass and rules over all forms of kung fu. Ever. Just search the tube for impacts between kiokushin and some ''drunken shaolin puk'' or smth
immortaliserwow 1 year ago
@immortaliserwow Oh! that fake japanese joke? yeah! I saw it!
robertvoice 1 year ago