Ever notice how many people "dislike" this video? Hhhmm? Perhaps you need to get off your horse and relax your ideas about 'Truth'. You describe yourself when you talk about "the fool"
You wish to make a stand on creationism with no material evidence to back up your claim! You obviously lack for knowledge of basic scientific fundamentals that were proven in debates 150 years ago! Perhaps you should visit a local library or a History museum and get some knowledge with truth in it. Not the Slanderous hypocrisy clothed in a wolfs skin called the Holy Bible that you now rely on for accurate historical referrence.
There is only one way to debate an skeptic(evolutionist). First you must get a sceince education. Next find peer review litriture supporting your claim. Please understand we atheists will not believe what you say because it is in the bible. We want evidence. There is evidence for evolution and no evidence for creationism. It is the only way.
Humility is the beginning of wisdom. By humility and the fear(respectful awe), of The LORD,are riches, and honor,and life.Proverbs 22:4.If a person does not seek God in sincerity of heart they are not being real with Him. He resists the proud but gives grace to the humble, James 4:6-8. The litmus test is an honest and contrite request for Jesus to reveal Himself to you.Whoever believes in Him will not be ashamed.Romans 10: 9-13.
@DearBossMusic I would suggest that you were indeed brainwashed to believe in a 'mythical and magical sky daddy' Time, matter, energy exploded from nothing and here you are. A bag of chemicals with no reason to reason yet you do. You, all that is, was and will be is totally meaningless if your 'magical sky daddy is true' Were you there when it started oh 'space dirt'
@pboisei "The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit; A broken and a contrite heart, O God, You will not despise." Psalm 51:17
I see your Israel flag. Well that is a scripture from the former king of Israel; King David. Many more Scriptures like it re. the posture of your heart and what God accepts. He says that he resists the proud but gives grace to the humble. Our admission of failures, weaknesses need for help are often God's opportunity to show up.
Excellent video. I'll take all this into account as I talk to others about God.. thanks for that. I was a "fool" in the exact way this video describes it, for many many years. Thankfully though things can change. Everything you said here was really good, thanks
@BibleIsland I was the same way until I found the only true god Amun-Ra. He protects the weak and the lowly one and he opens his arms to folks who are looking for peace and love.
This was a pretty long video to explain such a small part of that book you keep showing pictures of... Oh and toward the end you say "So sayeth the Lord" I think you meant "So sayeth this book I keep showing pictures of".
Might want to make a note of it on the screen. People could get confused as I anticipate a large number of the viewers are of that second class of person that book talked about.
I thought this was gonna be a video that would try to justify creationism by providing evidence, but instead all I heard was assertions claiming that people who accept evolution are fools. Not once was creation ever backed with reason or evidence.
Good video. Many thanks for posting. Do not correct a foollest you become like him is followed by: do rebuke him, lest he be right in his own sight. So I believe we are being shown a 'catch22 situation' here - no matter which you do, there is always a problem left.
So I totally agree with the principles lyed out in your vid... but also think that there is liberty for christians to debate fools (i'm still a fool in many ways btw) if they feel lead to do so. Many thanks and God bless!
The wicked man :) Characterised along with the fool by using the F word. A four letter word beginning with f like fool maybe? I have heard a lot of Christians say that everyone is deserving of there prayer that they will go to heaven. Hear the word of god, but your video is saying forget 2/3 rds of the population. Your video seems to take a certain delight that people are going to hell. Do you understand my inference? If I was a Christian I would make you foremost in my prayers.
So when discussing the fool you have a picture of Richard Dawkins the implication that his classification is that of the fool? However you may be saying that the people who read the god delusion without applying critical thought are the fools. Because Richard does not expound a certainty god is non existent and states he will change his mind if shown proof further more in his debates he listens to the questions asked and will revise his answers based on the phrasing of the question,
Hi Rod I have liked and subscribed to you. You have made an interesting Christian video and you have left the comments page open. So many times have I watched Christian video's and thought well that's worth a dialogue and found the comments page disabled. As your video states those who are not willing to listen are the fools. Disabling comments is to me an admission that they are not open to debate. Now before watching a video I check that comments are open before watching it through.
Psa 92:6 A brutish man knoweth not; neither doth a fool understand this.
1Cr 1:25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
Rom 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in [their] knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
Mat 13:13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
Mat 13:14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
1Cr 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God
Why would God spend three days creating the earth, which is insignificant on the universal scale, but take only one day making over 60 octillion observable stars, that all have planets of their own. That is weird. I guess this God guy just works in mysterios ways that we can't understand. I guess we are too stupid to understand physics and natural laws. I guess this world is 2d. Please help me. I feel so lost without the ever present malicious, self centered God of your terrible book.
Hmmm...Using the Bible to defend the validity of itself is circular logic. You can't prove any of it true. Quick question- what color were Adam and Eve? Why are there different races if it started with two people. Evolution will tell you that as homosapiens spread out they adapted to their environment, but God made two unchanging, unevolving, flat earth types, and so I multi-ethnicity is an illusion perpetrated by the Devil to confuse the faithful. Can you help me find the light?
@deistforever2001 'Circular Logic' not at all. Pointing out that it is the Bible that asserts these things not I but with this it also affirms God's love for u. Different races, the Bible does explain this at the Tower of Babel where God confused the languages grouping persons in distinct groups were eventually dominant physical features would begin to characterize the people. Your belief that simple organisms change into complex has never been observed. No example of any process shows this.
@kingdmculture It is circular logic. The Bible is true because it says it is, is running in circles. I believe in Hogwarts because Harry Potter says it's true. How do I know? Because the book I found it in says it's true. Have you looked into evolution, or do you just take Ken Hovind's word for it?
It sounds like your saying that I'm a wicked fool for simply disagreeing with you. Why don't you take your own advice and LISTEN to someone elses point of veiw insted of criticizing people who don't share yours.
@lordpimpd The Word of God, the Bible calls u a wicked fool not I. However, it also says that your r fearfully and wonderfully made. It also says that God loves u and places the highest value on your soul. So much that He sent His very best (Jesus) to make a way for u and I to be forgiven and pardoned from our wickedness for we all have done wickedly if we are to be honest. I honestly have listened to and carefully considered many of the arguments against God and the Bible, they are not cogent.
I believe in the posibility that god exists, however I do not wish to believe in a god that exists inside a book created by man (And no, whatever you say is not going to change the fact that the book, made of paper and ink, is written by a human being.)
We have so many problems in the world, and all we do is try and blame it on something or someone else.
Guess what, we're humanity, we're all to blame for eachother's mistakes at this point...
@Jkun Hmm.. was not aware of the contradictions you speak of. Please specifically refer me to some of them so I may consider more carefully your assertion.
This is hilarious, you openly contradict yourself. "The fool is one who always thinks he's right" Evolution is wrong, evolutionists are fools. "The fool and the wicked will insult you" Hahahahaha
I have to call you out on that particular lie, how does accepting the most plausible theory (regarding the development and diversity of life forms) equate to foolishness? How is it foolish to not believe in magic?
Evidence would suggest that you are either a fool or wicked, considering your willingness to insult a huge group of people for no discernible reason
@mehico33 It is only the 'plausible' theory if you first remove Creator God and intelligent design from the equation. Mocro-evolution is a very unscientific theory but it is the best folks have if they want to run from God but this is not the way science is to be done. One should not start with a presupposition but rather allow the actual evidence take us where it leads.
@kingdmculture Youre joking right? intelligent design was knocked out in the first round, there are genuine controvercies in the theory but to elevate ID as if it were some respectable theory is absurd. Never part of any equation and accepted by not one credible biologist (I may be wrong there, do tell me if you find one).
I find it hilarious that one believing in god would speak of evidence.
(Forgive my condescension, it is the result of countless encounters with creationists.)
@kingdmculture Creationists are an embarrassment to Christianity. Google catholic teachings on evolution and you will find a much wiser approach. For some reason fundamentalist creationists feel that evolution cannot be coherent with God which is totally bizarre as evolution can be looked on as simply the method in which God created man and animals. They take the old testament literally when it is full of symbolism.
@kingdmculture Creationists are an embarrassment to Christianity. Google catholic teachings on evolution and you will find a much wiser approach. For some reason fundamentalist creationists feel that evolution cannot be coherent with God which is totally bizarre as evolution can be looked on as simply the method in which God created man and animals. They take the old testament literally when it is full of symbolism.
@damienbrennan1 U neither know the scriptures nor the power of God. Jesus did nothing but affirm the old testament. He spoke of Johna in the Whale. He spoke of Moses in the desert and He said regarding man and creation; "Have you not read that He who created them from the beginning MADE THEM MALE AND FEMALE' Matt. 19:4 When did Jesus say He make them (man kind) make and female? All observable facts support the creation story. Jesus said; Thy Word IS Truth John 17:17. Will u trust man or Christ?
@kingdmculture Yes Jesus said this, and of course everything Jesus said was truth, even when he spoke in parables, like the parable of the prodigal son, or the fig tree. So do you believe that the prodigal son really existed? Jesus was explaining and giving a message through a fictional story. The old testament is made up with parables but also historical truths. Genesis for example was clearly a parable, yet of course all Christians believed this to be factual for a long time because they were
Respond to this video... unaware of the complexities of the natural world. The OT Was written by men who were totally unaware of natural science etc but this does not take away the fact that they were wise and deeply spiritual men. There words were indeed inspired by God. However the OT speaks of the world as flat, and speaks of the world being created in days. The world is round and the world took billions of years to form. However a day could mean milenia, so you see to take the OT
Respond to this video... literally is ignorant. The story of Noah is also full of wisdom and truth, however to say that Noah had male and female of all the animals of the world on his boat is ridiculous. The fact is that many animals that live in the arctic-polar bears or japanese komodo etc could not have been found or even known by Noah! get real!!! As for God creating male and female, yes of course he did, but when he did is a different story. Male and female most likely formed with
Respond to this video... single celled organisms that duplicated, eventually dividing in sex and then having to procreate with each other. How could God have explained these things to a primitave man? No like we simplify things for our children, so were these things simplified for man. This does not take away from the true message of these parables at all however. Evolution is in no way contrary to belief in God or his glory, it actually is an insight into Gods immense wisdom and power.
@BohemianBlasphemy Yes, it is because of faulty reasoning that you are not a Christian I must agree. However, one can only know about God one of two ways, By reasoning, examine limited existing data that is also further distorted by your own biases, influances and emotional contition. Or by 'revelation' that the unsearchable omni-potent God comes and reveals himself to us. This is what happened to me. Yes I still use my reason, and after many years I still find my faith hold true.
I placed the word "this" before "faulty reasoning" because I wanted to make clear that I was referring to the faulty reasoning present in this video, so your joke only sorta works. Still, good one. Or rather, sorta good one.
One example of faulty reasoning would bethis "revelation" you speak of. Boy oh boy, have I had personal experiences with revelations!
Now here's a question: How do you distinguish divine revelation from delirium?
First you say that a wise man is one who is willing to listen, then you assert that everyone who believes in evolution is an idiot, isnt that a little bit hypocritical?
Life has existed on earth for billions of years The exact mechanism of how this life came to be is not understood. Life isn't a clearly defined state as you may think - is a virus 'alive'.
The conditions of the early earth are not fully understood, so find out how organic molecules joined together to form the first self-replicating cell isn't going to be easy - but the religious assert it was a supernatural wizard without any investigation.
check out potholer54 for his videos on how life began
@la2111 said, "The conditions of the early earth are not fully understood, so find out how organic molecules joined together to form the first self-replicating cell isn't going to be easy - but the religious assert it was a supernatural wizard without any investigation."
How can you be certain there is no God if you don't understand how life came to be?
That's like a jury in a court of law finding a man guilty due to a lack of evidence.
You do not know, yet you have come to a conclusion?
@StratMatt777 I'm NOT asserting that there is no god.
I'm merely stating that on balance with the current evidence available to mankind there probably is not god - that is not an assertion. Nor does is mean there is a 50/50 chance of god existing either.
But one thing I will assert........god (if he exists) wont care what we eat, who we have sex with, or answer our prayers etc. Only arrogant Muslims, Christians and Jews assert this i.e they claim to know exactly what god wants of us.......
@la2111 First of all I don't appreciate you calling me arrogant, but I CAN understand why you might group all Christians in with all the judgmental, hypocrital and superior christians. You don't know me.
God doesn't care what we eat.
God doesn't care who we have sex with as long as we choose one wife and don't sleep around (which only hurts us anyway).
You've made it clear that you don't know God... so you have no understanding of his love for us or his desire to answer us. Who is arrogant?
@la2111 Additionally, intelligent design is an unbiased honest investigation into the facts to see where they lead instead of starting out with an hypothesis and then trying to prove it by picking and choosing evidence.
The hilarious part is when you watch a TV show on evolution and it goes like this, "Scientists believe", "Scientists speculate", "Scientists wonder if perhaps", Scientists aren't sure, but postulate that..."
To suggest that Darwinism is completely unbiased is nonsensical.
@StratMatt777 Darwin developed his theory without knowledge of DNA, Mendelian genetics - his theory has been refined over 150 years but the basics hold true.
The theory of evolution by random mutation and non random natural selection is backed up by evidence. 200,000 peer reviewed papers, carbon dating, palaeontology, geology, molecular biology, etc. There is NO evidence to support intelligent design.
Find a fossilised rabbit in the cambrian layers then evolution will be disproved.
@la2111 Darwin developed his theory without knowledge of ANYTHING except of farmers and bird breeders crossbreeding to get desired traits. His ship captain saw everything Darwin saw and came to the opposite conclusion. Macroevolution does not exist. If you present the fossil evidence of macroevolution I will recant the statement.
Intelligent design says that earth is 13.8b yrs old and that rabbits did not exist yet during the Cambrian explosion. No evidence of macroevolution from Cambrian expl!
@StratMatt777 Darwin formed his conclusion over decades of study. He observed thousands of species across the globe - you can believe what the sailor said if you want. 'macroevolution does not exist'
I'm afraid we'll just have to agree to disagree on that point. The fossil record supports it, so does DNA analysis and it has been observed.
Intelligent design is re-branded creationism, nothing more.
And why would anyone want to be created and be the property of supernatural entity?
@la2111 I don't know. Why would anyone want to be created to be the property of a supernatural entity? I wouldn't. That sounds like Islam or any of the other religions that make you a slave doing works hoping that you just might be good enough to please God- maybe.
Jesus was very clear that he was bringing the gospel of freedom. Acknowledge that God who sent Him wants you to acknowledge his existence and love Him and love his creation as you love yourself. He also gave us free will to choose.
@la2111 I don't know. Why would anyone want to be created to be the property of a supernatural entity? I wouldn't. That sounds like Islam or any of the other religions that make you a slave doing works hoping that you just might be good enough to please God- maybe.
Jesus was very clear that he was bringing the gospel of freedom. God wants you to acknowledge his existence and love Him as He loves you and to love his creation as you love yourself. He also gave us free will to choose His love.
@la2111 There is no scientific evidence that proves how life came on earth. There is still a huge chasm between the state of non-life to the existence of living biological entities (I don't think there are even viable theories to explain it)... Also, proving evolution exists does not prove that God does not exist (evolution begins after life has already exists).
@Stillswayz actually if do some more research you will find it has been shown as more than plausible that life can be created from nothing, there are many scientific journals and papers on the topic if you care to look for them. Even RNA creation from basic pre-biotic chemicals was shown possible in experiments conducted at the University of Manchester in 2009.
@la2111 It is good to know that you know you cannot disprove God. Also, I never said you HAVE to believe in God either, that is your choice. As for evolution within species I have no doubt that it exist, but it doesnt disprove God... it doesnt prove anything except that evolution takes place... it doesnt disprove creation either... nor do we have physical evidence that anything proves it... It comes down to this in the end, believe what you want to believe... KNOWING is something else
@Stillswayz Indeed you cannot disprove god (or prove his existence). The evidence for evolution is so overwhelming now there is no argument within science only on certain details and there are plenty of transitional fossils and evidence from DNA.
How the universe and life came to be on this planet can now be explained without the need for biblical creation.
The best argument for a creator would be at the moment of the big bang as nobody (not even your minister) knows what started it.........
A person who thinks they're right is a fool? Do you believe you're right in saying that? Uh-oh.
If you would be so kind as to read the entire verse of Pro. 12:15, you'll see that Solomon is contrasting the fool with the wise man in that the wise man heeds counsel, whereas the fool ignores it and simply thinks he is right.
Stop fooling people and hindering science. It is your interpretation of the Bible that is wrong, not the millions of biologists and the overwhelming evidence for Evolution.
@JAB63096 You attack blatant lies? Why is it you seem so confident that you KNOW? Can you prove that? And how did you come to this conclusion? And even with that aside, why is it that to strengthen your "faith" you need to trample on another man's belief... If you are so certain that what you know is infallible (and we both know it isnt) then you don't need to rely on the crutch of bigotry for your beliefs to be truthful.
Evolution is a proven fact, and not up for debate. You're argument is very one sided and hypocritical, seeing as how you talk about listening to all arguments, yet all of your evidence comes from the Bible, which is flawed, mistranslated, and changed by the corrupt. You are very jaded.
@JAB63096 where do you get YOUR "facts"? Who says evolution is a fact, except the arrogant commenters on this video, who could have simply ignored it.. but instead felt obligated to attack it... And not to prove evolution is a fact but to simply attack Christianity.
I agree he is very one-sided, he basically says that open minded people will certainly accept Christian literature... no dispute there, but one can simply ignore it...
talkorigins[dot]org, thats where all the evidence supporting evolution is, there's mountains of it
besides, evolution itself is already a fact, it's observable and testable
faith, by definition, is a belief without and justification involving proof. faith is a useless concept, its actually counterproductive since all it does is halt any further research when you decide on a false conclusion & support it with faith
@WitchHunter93 Firstly it seems that you do not know what a fact really is and secondly what faith really means. Because something is observable and testable does not make it a fact. A fact is a concept that is infallible and will always be infallible. Theories that have throughout the years been debunked at some point in time SEEMED infallible. Have YOU observed and tested those theories you believe in? If not then you have "faith" in the literature that did... sounds familiar
@Stillswayz I'm not sure of the date on these studies, but 98% of all scientists accept evolution as true. The 2% who don't are almost all driven by religion. Evolution is taught as the soul source of humanity in the majority of public schools in America. I don't attack religion, I attack blatant lies.
speaking of fools, evolution has nothing to do with whether God exists or not and nothing to do with how life began. But hey, you seem to enjoy quoting from the bible so knock yourself out - looking foolish.
The symbolism you use in this video makes my head hurt. You should research a little about semiotics to strengthen your video compositions, just a thought.
@ Scyllaeum - Quote: " 'The fool is right in his own eyes' Sums up theists perfectly." End Quote - RIGHT ON! I agree! Too bad some moron flagged your comment as spam! It was probably some Christard Funny-mentalist with shit for brains! So, I quote you, so that people can still read what you have said. Now, some Christard bed-wetting ignoramus will probably flag this comment as spam!
@ kingdmculture - Yeah! I do cuss and swear! But I have a damn good reason for it! All my life I have had to deal with self-righteous little punks like you! So, I'm a fool and I'm wicked because I liked to study science. When I was going to school, I was also called a "fag" because I didn't like sports. Yeah! I like science, and I hate football, so I guess that makes me a foolish and wicked fag! Uh huh! That's right! Well, once again, FUCK YOU AND GO TO HELL!!!
@BigFatMan1951 You're such a nerd... So this means I can kick your ass and stomp you on the ground for being such a fuck? Does this indicate that majority of the atheist on youtube are actual nerds with glasses that mocks christianity? Yeah, you are a fag, too. Hehe, I'm just kidding....except about the fag part and being a nerd...
@ kingdmculture - The more I study this video, the more I see you're just another self-righteous young punk, like VenomFangX who was eventually banned from YouTube for filing false DMCA claims against educational channels on science and Evolution. So, I guess I'm wicked and a fool because I support Darwin's theory on Evolution. Well, I have never harmed another human being in my life, but when I was 17 years old, I was once beaten and raped by a Christian! Yeah! A fucking Christard!
So the only people that are the "wise man" are the suckers that are weak minded and dont immediately refute your fake cult like religion? So what one am I, i havnt cursed, so i cant be a fool, or wicked, i must be a wise man, so you, just like your bible contradict yourself.
@ kingdmculture - Well, we have Kent Hovend, a Christian Creationist who is currently serving 10 years in prison for tax fraud! So much for being a good Christian! Eh? When I was a kid growing up, I have been beaten and abused by Christians! So, pardon my French . . . but . . . GO FUCK YOURSELF!!! And have a nice day! OK?
‘blind unbelief in one thing springs from blind belief in another’ Georg Christoph Lichtenberg. You're the fool, blindly believing a factually devoid work of primitive cultures rather than understanding that has resulted from critical reasoning and an immense evidence base. The story we learn through scientific investigation is far more wonderful and amazing than the blood soaked, perverse, racist, sexist and guilt ridden chapters of that horrible book.
wow, you pretty much disqualify the video in the very first sentence there. Evolution has got nothing to say about how life was first created, that's a whole different thing. All evolution is about is how, over time, life can change. No need to go on watching, I guess, since I doubt it'll get any better from that point on. :D
Those wicked persons ... oh ... i`ve spend so much time telling them about evidences they can touch, where they can see them... etc... But their answers have always been something like "that proves nothing, you gave me nothing + lots of cursing xD
From then on i`m ignoring them in the beginning xD
You have congratulations on explaining and classifying those kind of people in the understandable,recognizable and easy way! Thank you you`ve made my day :D
i've been dealing with the theory of evolution from alot of different people, and i believe God finally opened my eyes. all the theory of evolution proves is we came from one creator, or source, ( which confirms the bible). the athiest interpret the creator as amino-acid, and the rest of us think it was God. so it's just a matter of interpretation, and in no way proves God doesn't exist.
@la2111 your an idiot, and the sad thing is everyone can see that but you, just because you don't have your own mind, doesn't mean we're all like you..
I nearly agree with you - but they do say the definition of and educated man is that he sees ignorance in his fellow man but also in himself. Get my drift.....?
@la2111 I can assume that by sarcastically quoting the word 'proof' in your rebuttal to you457wx you are one to find solace in a concept that can be proven. Can you prove all that you said? Can you prove that evolution is a fact? Can you prove that God does not exist? If you can, then your belief system is infallible. Christianity isnt about piecing and debunking theories... it is about faith. Faith does require proof. As it stands, whose belief system seems fallible now?
@Stillswayz Evolution by random mutation and natural selection is backed up by Carbon dating, taxonomy, molecular biology, paleontology and has been observed. There are over 200,000 PEER reviewed papers on evolution for you to refute...........
As for faith - it has NO proof - faith is the belief WITHOUT evidence.
As a rationalist I know fine well that you cannot disprove god - but on balance, on the available evidence I dont believe....s o r r y.....
whene i was 12 years old my parents died.my christian family left me to live on the streets.thay did not want to spend there money to help eneyone.so dont tell me how wonderfull christians are.
Please learn about what your talking about as far as science.... Take your own advice about the wise man and don't be the fool. LOL A fool is always right, not open Man you dont realise your talking about yourself right?
Huge hole in your entire argument. You claim evolution states that everything came from nothing. In fact, quite the opposite. Evolution starts with life that is already existent. Abiogenesis is the study of how self replicating organisms came to be and how they came to the stage of life. Cosmology studies how planets are made, and the big bang theory states hypothesis about the expansion of the universe. No field of science states, "everything came from nothing."
@shadywolf91 Well, Evoltion is still an extreamly unscentific explaination for the diversity of life. Believe it if you must but don't call it science. I mean once you cross Creator God off the list you are not left with many options no matter how unscentific they are. PS Allot of highly aclaimed scentists do say that everything came from notthing.
Were do you choose to believe everything came from if not from an all powerful transendant Creator and designer God?
@kingdmculture Actually no, evolution is a science because it is testable and falsifiable. And once you cross any deity off the list, it can easily be replaced with any other imaginary figure or even space aliens. And please name one scientist that claims everything came from nothing and that they claim this is evolution.
To answer your question, I don't know. It's not hard to say, and you don't need a god of the gaps.
@shadywolf91 Even if you go to space aliens you that just pushes the question further away but same problems of creation and life. Macro evolution scentifec? Poppycock!! Who told you that? 1. "It is now becoming clear that everything can -- and probably did -- come from nothing." Robert A. J. Matthews, physicist, Ashton University, England
Wow, you were really misinformed on this one. You really should question yourself what else you were misinformed about. Got lots more names if you want.
@kingdmculture Interesting, I was not aware of these physicists. Perhaps I should have been clearer, I was speaking of evolution. Which has nothing to do with the origin of the universe. . I should have said biologist, my mistake. And the same question about your deity arises with space aliens. Where did he come from?
@shadywolf91 Just tell Kingdomcultist that evolution can make predictions as to what intermediate animals will look like and where fossils will be located. Creationism cannot because the default answer is 'Gawd dunnit'. Why, how? Why did the creator not make things randomly or with creative physiological trails - like 4 heads or 3 legs and put them any old place? I dont think Kcultist knows what falsifiability means.
@kingdmculture Why do you call evolution an "extreamly unscentific" explanation for the diversity of life? Have you even looked at the evidence for it? And why do you assume accepting evolution means you automatically cross a creator god off the list? Did you not know that many believers accept evolution as well?
I think the things you said & the way you used scripture are very edifying to a lot of Christians. I believe it leaves a poor impression on believers and non-believers when Christians speak recklessly in a debate, out of frustration.
I think the pictures in the video are kind of a turn-off. They seem a little too aggressive and hostile.
Heh heh, this video was less about how to debate and more about who to avoid. It basically told me only talk to people who agree with you, or look like they're going to agree with you.
Every atheist, agnostic, pagan, or anyone other then christian who wrote a comment is already a better person than this guy's target audience, simply for the fact that you are engaging in thoughtful debate and not rejecting someone for lack of understanding.
"Do not speak in the hearing of a fool." Does that mean we should not bother trying to instruct you? By the way it should be "Fools don't listen to anybody" not "Fools don't listen to nobody" Fools have poor grammar as well I guess....
@klootzakisme You forgot to call them stupid assholes but this is the level of 'debate' they are looking for.
This 'debate' can be summed up easily on the Christian side:
Don't talk about facts and figures - just say 'magic man did it' and accuse everyone else of being an idiot who will go to hell for not repeating the inanity.
That is what you supposedly ligical folks always resort to when coming to questions of how life came about, how stars formed, where did all the matter, time, space, laws, order intellegence come from. There is no scientifec explaination so you pretend there is no Creator and bash those who do. What's up with that. Is that supposed to be the scentific approch?
@kingdmculture For a start, you ignorance is breathtaking. Star formation is well understood - go see any astronomy textbook. As for the rest of your list, science and mathematics offer tangible and testable theories through experiment. What exactly can religion offer other than the term 'creator'? What evidence is there? Where did the creator come from? Why not think that ALL laws exist in infinite parallel universes and life/intelligence is a statistical certainty?
@GreatGungHolio Well thanks for the attack on my character, that does nothing to advance your arugument. I gave many evidences for a Creator God as the best explaination is a desighner. I have beliefs about God that are my faith but an explaination of my explaination is not requiered for it to remain the best explaination. If you found artifacts burried in the ground you would not need to know the origins of the perosons who designed them, yet persons are still the best explaination for them.
There, Five words that answer all your questions, and what is the difference you ask? My words can be backed up with at least some evidence, whereas you are left with "I don't understand it, therefore god", or "So you while you can explain A,D and G, you still have B,C,E and F unknown. And that is god", or equal excuses.
Just keep pulling god back to the holes, and eventually it will disappear.
@kingdmculture "supposedly ligical folks always resort to when coming to questions of how life came about, how stars formed..There is no scientifec explaination..." These are your words. What would you call me if I said 'nobodys knows what the capital of France is?'
@greenghost2008 Thor never did anything for me or for millions and millions of others like Jesus did. No historical veracity, no following. No prophetic book from him. No, awsome laws for life given or followed by anyone I ever new. No miraculous signs from him. I couuld go on. But look. I let you answer with a question. I played allong. You made a claim to explain you position of why you believe this. I simply ask why YOU believe God does not exist.?
You know there is a God and that there has to be a God. You 'can't' find Him for the same reason a robber 'can't' find a police officer. You love you sin and rebelion against the Creator. No one has ever seen a building without a builder, or a painting with out a painter, yet you want to believe in a creatioin with all the order, design with out a designer. That is rediculous and you know it. You have more faith than me to believe that wopper.
@kingdmculture The free market needs no designer. Nearly 7 Billion people following their own interest creates the global market. No need for a man at the top. Seemes likely that the universe is the same way. Not requiring a designer. The forces and stuff that makes up the universe simply carriesout its nature in the context of the universe and there you go existence. No maker no beginning and no end.
@greenghost2008 That's just a really sad argument. Highly complex thinking, reasoning, creative bieings with intelligence all contributed to what you call the free market. Not unguided dirt that came from nowhere that somhow made systems about a billion times more complex that the example you chose of the free market. You need mighty faith to believe that.
Good video, God bless brother!
Nobleeagle100 1 week ago
Ever notice how many people "dislike" this video? Hhhmm? Perhaps you need to get off your horse and relax your ideas about 'Truth'. You describe yourself when you talk about "the fool"
jus1taj 1 week ago
You wish to make a stand on creationism with no material evidence to back up your claim! You obviously lack for knowledge of basic scientific fundamentals that were proven in debates 150 years ago! Perhaps you should visit a local library or a History museum and get some knowledge with truth in it. Not the Slanderous hypocrisy clothed in a wolfs skin called the Holy Bible that you now rely on for accurate historical referrence.
TheMuskokaman 3 weeks ago
There is only one way to debate an skeptic(evolutionist). First you must get a sceince education. Next find peer review litriture supporting your claim. Please understand we atheists will not believe what you say because it is in the bible. We want evidence. There is evidence for evolution and no evidence for creationism. It is the only way.
RapeJesusWithAStick 3 weeks ago
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WilliamTyndale1 1 month ago
Very good message! God bless
WilliamTyndale1 1 month ago
So if we are gonna listen to the bible, we have to listen to ALL of the bible.... w w w.evilbible. com /Murder. htm
ootmaster1 1 month ago
Humility is the beginning of wisdom. By humility and the fear(respectful awe), of The LORD,are riches, and honor,and life.Proverbs 22:4.If a person does not seek God in sincerity of heart they are not being real with Him. He resists the proud but gives grace to the humble, James 4:6-8. The litmus test is an honest and contrite request for Jesus to reveal Himself to you.Whoever believes in Him will not be ashamed.Romans 10: 9-13.
TheAgateman1 1 month ago
Your initial postulation comes from deep seeded ignorance; abiogenesis is not part of evolution.
RebelWrestler45 1 month ago
I thanks the stars that I was not brainwashed by my parents as a child to believe in a mythical sky daddy :)
DearBossMusic 2 months ago
@DearBossMusic I would suggest that you were indeed brainwashed to believe in a 'mythical and magical sky daddy' Time, matter, energy exploded from nothing and here you are. A bag of chemicals with no reason to reason yet you do. You, all that is, was and will be is totally meaningless if your 'magical sky daddy is true' Were you there when it started oh 'space dirt'
kingdmculture 2 months ago
@kingdmculture
You make no sense at all. I tried to understand what you were attempting to say but I don't believe even you truly know that.
DearBossMusic 2 months ago
"Find someone who is broken" Why broken? do you guys prey on vulnerable people?
pboisei 2 months ago
@pboisei "The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit; A broken and a contrite heart, O God, You will not despise." Psalm 51:17
I see your Israel flag. Well that is a scripture from the former king of Israel; King David. Many more Scriptures like it re. the posture of your heart and what God accepts. He says that he resists the proud but gives grace to the humble. Our admission of failures, weaknesses need for help are often God's opportunity to show up.
kingdmculture 2 months ago
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Would a fool or a wise man claim to have all the answers to life's ultimate questions?
pboisei 2 months ago
Would a fool or a wise man claim to have all the answers to life's ultimate questions?
pboisei 2 months ago
@pboisei
Niether, only an omniscient God could do that and also claim to know everything. This is a logical thesis.
kingdmculture 2 months ago
Excellent video. I'll take all this into account as I talk to others about God.. thanks for that. I was a "fool" in the exact way this video describes it, for many many years. Thankfully though things can change. Everything you said here was really good, thanks
BibleIsland 3 months ago
@BibleIsland I was the same way until I found the only true god Amun-Ra. He protects the weak and the lowly one and he opens his arms to folks who are looking for peace and love.
wowamonn 2 months ago
So basically your advice is: Flee from anyone who doesn't readily agree, and bark "You're going to Hell!" over your shoulder as you run away.
I think you've confused "wise" and "open" with gullible, credulous, easily mislead by con-men.
You also confused evolution with abiogenesis. Heard of Francis Collins? Any reason evolution can't be a mechanism of Creation?
@3:38 you're rambling. I suppose most of the scientists on the planet are headed for jail, huh?
watch?v=wHa79ODbfcg , cdk007
OptimisticCynic715 3 months ago
Blind Christian uses bible passage!!
its not very effective!
Intelligent Atheist uses proven facts!!
Its super effective!!!
Blind Christian:
you fucking foolish wicked Atheist is going to hell its impossible to debate people like you!!!!!
On a serious note, I think this video was made because the uploader ran out of ideas for lies to use.
trogdorburninating 3 months ago
This was a pretty long video to explain such a small part of that book you keep showing pictures of... Oh and toward the end you say "So sayeth the Lord" I think you meant "So sayeth this book I keep showing pictures of".
Might want to make a note of it on the screen. People could get confused as I anticipate a large number of the viewers are of that second class of person that book talked about.
Scienceprevails 3 months ago
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Amashkitotamoes 3 months ago
I thought this was gonna be a video that would try to justify creationism by providing evidence, but instead all I heard was assertions claiming that people who accept evolution are fools. Not once was creation ever backed with reason or evidence.
jbulletc 4 months ago
Good video. Many thanks for posting. Do not correct a foollest you become like him is followed by: do rebuke him, lest he be right in his own sight. So I believe we are being shown a 'catch22 situation' here - no matter which you do, there is always a problem left.
So I totally agree with the principles lyed out in your vid... but also think that there is liberty for christians to debate fools (i'm still a fool in many ways btw) if they feel lead to do so. Many thanks and God bless!
TonguesDoctrine 4 months ago
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There is no way for a Christian to debate Biology out of existence.
Fail.
This uggo gets his info from HOVIND.
Fail.
odinata 4 months ago
The wicked man :) Characterised along with the fool by using the F word. A four letter word beginning with f like fool maybe? I have heard a lot of Christians say that everyone is deserving of there prayer that they will go to heaven. Hear the word of god, but your video is saying forget 2/3 rds of the population. Your video seems to take a certain delight that people are going to hell. Do you understand my inference? If I was a Christian I would make you foremost in my prayers.
way2jaded1 4 months ago
So when discussing the fool you have a picture of Richard Dawkins the implication that his classification is that of the fool? However you may be saying that the people who read the god delusion without applying critical thought are the fools. Because Richard does not expound a certainty god is non existent and states he will change his mind if shown proof further more in his debates he listens to the questions asked and will revise his answers based on the phrasing of the question,
way2jaded1 4 months ago
Hi Rod I have liked and subscribed to you. You have made an interesting Christian video and you have left the comments page open. So many times have I watched Christian video's and thought well that's worth a dialogue and found the comments page disabled. As your video states those who are not willing to listen are the fools. Disabling comments is to me an admission that they are not open to debate. Now before watching a video I check that comments are open before watching it through.
way2jaded1 4 months ago
Psa 92:6 A brutish man knoweth not; neither doth a fool understand this.
1Cr 1:25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
Rom 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in [their] knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
God bless you
hammerandnails777 4 months ago
@hammerandnails777 Some great scriptures. So true.
kingdmculture 4 months ago
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@kingdmculture
Whats ridiculous about the fact that foxes are related to wolves.
Why do you think Biology is ridiculous when it is built upon observable, demonstrable facts?
odinata 4 months ago
@hammerandnails777 Proverbs 29:20 'There is more hope for a fool than for someone who speaks without thinking'.
la2111 3 months ago 2
@la2111
So true!
hammerandnails777 3 months ago
Mat 13:13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
Mat 13:14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
1Cr 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God
hammerandnails777 4 months ago
Awesome and right on!
Thank you
hammerandnails777 4 months ago
Why would God spend three days creating the earth, which is insignificant on the universal scale, but take only one day making over 60 octillion observable stars, that all have planets of their own. That is weird. I guess this God guy just works in mysterios ways that we can't understand. I guess we are too stupid to understand physics and natural laws. I guess this world is 2d. Please help me. I feel so lost without the ever present malicious, self centered God of your terrible book.
deistforever2001 4 months ago
Hmmm...Using the Bible to defend the validity of itself is circular logic. You can't prove any of it true. Quick question- what color were Adam and Eve? Why are there different races if it started with two people. Evolution will tell you that as homosapiens spread out they adapted to their environment, but God made two unchanging, unevolving, flat earth types, and so I multi-ethnicity is an illusion perpetrated by the Devil to confuse the faithful. Can you help me find the light?
deistforever2001 4 months ago 2
@deistforever2001 'Circular Logic' not at all. Pointing out that it is the Bible that asserts these things not I but with this it also affirms God's love for u. Different races, the Bible does explain this at the Tower of Babel where God confused the languages grouping persons in distinct groups were eventually dominant physical features would begin to characterize the people. Your belief that simple organisms change into complex has never been observed. No example of any process shows this.
kingdmculture 4 months ago
@kingdmculture It is circular logic. The Bible is true because it says it is, is running in circles. I believe in Hogwarts because Harry Potter says it's true. How do I know? Because the book I found it in says it's true. Have you looked into evolution, or do you just take Ken Hovind's word for it?
deistforever2001 4 months ago
It sounds like your saying that I'm a wicked fool for simply disagreeing with you. Why don't you take your own advice and LISTEN to someone elses point of veiw insted of criticizing people who don't share yours.
lordpimpd 5 months ago
@lordpimpd The Word of God, the Bible calls u a wicked fool not I. However, it also says that your r fearfully and wonderfully made. It also says that God loves u and places the highest value on your soul. So much that He sent His very best (Jesus) to make a way for u and I to be forgiven and pardoned from our wickedness for we all have done wickedly if we are to be honest. I honestly have listened to and carefully considered many of the arguments against God and the Bible, they are not cogent.
kingdmculture 5 months ago
Too many contradictions in this video =/
I believe in the posibility that god exists, however I do not wish to believe in a god that exists inside a book created by man (And no, whatever you say is not going to change the fact that the book, made of paper and ink, is written by a human being.)
We have so many problems in the world, and all we do is try and blame it on something or someone else.
Guess what, we're humanity, we're all to blame for eachother's mistakes at this point...
~Jkun~
Jkun 5 months ago
@Jkun Hmm.. was not aware of the contradictions you speak of. Please specifically refer me to some of them so I may consider more carefully your assertion.
Thanks
kingdmculture 5 months ago
@kingdmculture
Sorry for the extremely late reply, my computer broke down a while ago and youtube commenting doesn't work so well on ps3 =.,=
But to get back on topic, I dont think I am in any position to teach you anything.
If you need examples, look around you. Try to understand the world that "we" created.
It was never my intention for you to blindly trust in what I say, that doesn't mean you cant examine things with an open mind.
~Jkun~
Jkun 1 month ago
This is hilarious, you openly contradict yourself. "The fool is one who always thinks he's right" Evolution is wrong, evolutionists are fools. "The fool and the wicked will insult you" Hahahahaha
Fergurz 5 months ago
Sorry, but I must have missed it: was there anything about evolution is this video?
chackers 5 months ago
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DanGRtheMan 5 months ago
"every evolutionist is a fool..."
I have to call you out on that particular lie, how does accepting the most plausible theory (regarding the development and diversity of life forms) equate to foolishness? How is it foolish to not believe in magic?
Evidence would suggest that you are either a fool or wicked, considering your willingness to insult a huge group of people for no discernible reason
mehico33 6 months ago
@mehico33 It is only the 'plausible' theory if you first remove Creator God and intelligent design from the equation. Mocro-evolution is a very unscientific theory but it is the best folks have if they want to run from God but this is not the way science is to be done. One should not start with a presupposition but rather allow the actual evidence take us where it leads.
kingdmculture 6 months ago
@kingdmculture Youre joking right? intelligent design was knocked out in the first round, there are genuine controvercies in the theory but to elevate ID as if it were some respectable theory is absurd. Never part of any equation and accepted by not one credible biologist (I may be wrong there, do tell me if you find one).
I find it hilarious that one believing in god would speak of evidence.
(Forgive my condescension, it is the result of countless encounters with creationists.)
mehico33 6 months ago
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@kingdmculture Creationists are an embarrassment to Christianity. Google catholic teachings on evolution and you will find a much wiser approach. For some reason fundamentalist creationists feel that evolution cannot be coherent with God which is totally bizarre as evolution can be looked on as simply the method in which God created man and animals. They take the old testament literally when it is full of symbolism.
damienbrennan1 5 months ago
@kingdmculture Creationists are an embarrassment to Christianity. Google catholic teachings on evolution and you will find a much wiser approach. For some reason fundamentalist creationists feel that evolution cannot be coherent with God which is totally bizarre as evolution can be looked on as simply the method in which God created man and animals. They take the old testament literally when it is full of symbolism.
damienbrennan1 5 months ago
@damienbrennan1 U neither know the scriptures nor the power of God. Jesus did nothing but affirm the old testament. He spoke of Johna in the Whale. He spoke of Moses in the desert and He said regarding man and creation; "Have you not read that He who created them from the beginning MADE THEM MALE AND FEMALE' Matt. 19:4 When did Jesus say He make them (man kind) make and female? All observable facts support the creation story. Jesus said; Thy Word IS Truth John 17:17. Will u trust man or Christ?
kingdmculture 5 months ago
@kingdmculture Yes Jesus said this, and of course everything Jesus said was truth, even when he spoke in parables, like the parable of the prodigal son, or the fig tree. So do you believe that the prodigal son really existed? Jesus was explaining and giving a message through a fictional story. The old testament is made up with parables but also historical truths. Genesis for example was clearly a parable, yet of course all Christians believed this to be factual for a long time because they were
damienbrennan1 5 months ago
Respond to this video... unaware of the complexities of the natural world. The OT Was written by men who were totally unaware of natural science etc but this does not take away the fact that they were wise and deeply spiritual men. There words were indeed inspired by God. However the OT speaks of the world as flat, and speaks of the world being created in days. The world is round and the world took billions of years to form. However a day could mean milenia, so you see to take the OT
damienbrennan1 5 months ago
Respond to this video... literally is ignorant. The story of Noah is also full of wisdom and truth, however to say that Noah had male and female of all the animals of the world on his boat is ridiculous. The fact is that many animals that live in the arctic-polar bears or japanese komodo etc could not have been found or even known by Noah! get real!!! As for God creating male and female, yes of course he did, but when he did is a different story. Male and female most likely formed with
damienbrennan1 5 months ago
Respond to this video... single celled organisms that duplicated, eventually dividing in sex and then having to procreate with each other. How could God have explained these things to a primitave man? No like we simplify things for our children, so were these things simplified for man. This does not take away from the true message of these parables at all however. Evolution is in no way contrary to belief in God or his glory, it actually is an insight into Gods immense wisdom and power.
damienbrennan1 5 months ago
And this is why I'm no longer a Christian: This kind of faulty reasoning.
BohemianBlasphemy 7 months ago
@BohemianBlasphemy Yes, it is because of faulty reasoning that you are not a Christian I must agree. However, one can only know about God one of two ways, By reasoning, examine limited existing data that is also further distorted by your own biases, influances and emotional contition. Or by 'revelation' that the unsearchable omni-potent God comes and reveals himself to us. This is what happened to me. Yes I still use my reason, and after many years I still find my faith hold true.
kingdmculture 7 months ago
@kingdmculture
I placed the word "this" before "faulty reasoning" because I wanted to make clear that I was referring to the faulty reasoning present in this video, so your joke only sorta works. Still, good one. Or rather, sorta good one.
One example of faulty reasoning would bethis "revelation" you speak of. Boy oh boy, have I had personal experiences with revelations!
Now here's a question: How do you distinguish divine revelation from delirium?
BohemianBlasphemy 7 months ago
First you say that a wise man is one who is willing to listen, then you assert that everyone who believes in evolution is an idiot, isnt that a little bit hypocritical?
14thcolossus 7 months ago
la2111 is wicked
yoitsme1999 7 months ago
Lol, as if there is any single means for anybody to debate evolution
mehico33 7 months ago
"The way to identify a fool is that the fool is right in his own eyes", umm, like every right-wing christian fundamentalist is? LOL
Proverbs 18:2, I will remember that when saving my next christian from their ignorance, thanks! ;)
anthropic1 7 months ago 9
Life has existed on earth for billions of years The exact mechanism of how this life came to be is not understood. Life isn't a clearly defined state as you may think - is a virus 'alive'.
The conditions of the early earth are not fully understood, so find out how organic molecules joined together to form the first self-replicating cell isn't going to be easy - but the religious assert it was a supernatural wizard without any investigation.
check out potholer54 for his videos on how life began
la2111 8 months ago 6
@la2111 said, "The conditions of the early earth are not fully understood, so find out how organic molecules joined together to form the first self-replicating cell isn't going to be easy - but the religious assert it was a supernatural wizard without any investigation."
How can you be certain there is no God if you don't understand how life came to be?
That's like a jury in a court of law finding a man guilty due to a lack of evidence.
You do not know, yet you have come to a conclusion?
StratMatt777 3 months ago
@StratMatt777 I'm NOT asserting that there is no god.
I'm merely stating that on balance with the current evidence available to mankind there probably is not god - that is not an assertion. Nor does is mean there is a 50/50 chance of god existing either.
But one thing I will assert........god (if he exists) wont care what we eat, who we have sex with, or answer our prayers etc. Only arrogant Muslims, Christians and Jews assert this i.e they claim to know exactly what god wants of us.......
la2111 3 months ago
@la2111 First of all I don't appreciate you calling me arrogant, but I CAN understand why you might group all Christians in with all the judgmental, hypocrital and superior christians. You don't know me.
God doesn't care what we eat.
God doesn't care who we have sex with as long as we choose one wife and don't sleep around (which only hurts us anyway).
You've made it clear that you don't know God... so you have no understanding of his love for us or his desire to answer us. Who is arrogant?
StratMatt777 3 months ago
@la2111 Additionally, intelligent design is an unbiased honest investigation into the facts to see where they lead instead of starting out with an hypothesis and then trying to prove it by picking and choosing evidence.
The hilarious part is when you watch a TV show on evolution and it goes like this, "Scientists believe", "Scientists speculate", "Scientists wonder if perhaps", Scientists aren't sure, but postulate that..."
To suggest that Darwinism is completely unbiased is nonsensical.
StratMatt777 3 months ago
@StratMatt777 Darwin developed his theory without knowledge of DNA, Mendelian genetics - his theory has been refined over 150 years but the basics hold true.
The theory of evolution by random mutation and non random natural selection is backed up by evidence. 200,000 peer reviewed papers, carbon dating, palaeontology, geology, molecular biology, etc. There is NO evidence to support intelligent design.
Find a fossilised rabbit in the cambrian layers then evolution will be disproved.
la2111 3 months ago
@la2111 Darwin developed his theory without knowledge of ANYTHING except of farmers and bird breeders crossbreeding to get desired traits. His ship captain saw everything Darwin saw and came to the opposite conclusion. Macroevolution does not exist. If you present the fossil evidence of macroevolution I will recant the statement.
Intelligent design says that earth is 13.8b yrs old and that rabbits did not exist yet during the Cambrian explosion. No evidence of macroevolution from Cambrian expl!
StratMatt777 3 months ago
@StratMatt777 Darwin formed his conclusion over decades of study. He observed thousands of species across the globe - you can believe what the sailor said if you want. 'macroevolution does not exist'
I'm afraid we'll just have to agree to disagree on that point. The fossil record supports it, so does DNA analysis and it has been observed.
Intelligent design is re-branded creationism, nothing more.
And why would anyone want to be created and be the property of supernatural entity?
la2111 3 months ago
@la2111 I don't know. Why would anyone want to be created to be the property of a supernatural entity? I wouldn't. That sounds like Islam or any of the other religions that make you a slave doing works hoping that you just might be good enough to please God- maybe.
Jesus was very clear that he was bringing the gospel of freedom. Acknowledge that God who sent Him wants you to acknowledge his existence and love Him and love his creation as you love yourself. He also gave us free will to choose.
StratMatt777 3 months ago
@la2111 I don't know. Why would anyone want to be created to be the property of a supernatural entity? I wouldn't. That sounds like Islam or any of the other religions that make you a slave doing works hoping that you just might be good enough to please God- maybe.
Jesus was very clear that he was bringing the gospel of freedom. God wants you to acknowledge his existence and love Him as He loves you and to love his creation as you love yourself. He also gave us free will to choose His love.
StratMatt777 3 months ago
@la2111 There is no scientific evidence that proves how life came on earth. There is still a huge chasm between the state of non-life to the existence of living biological entities (I don't think there are even viable theories to explain it)... Also, proving evolution exists does not prove that God does not exist (evolution begins after life has already exists).
Stillswayz 8 months ago
@Stillswayz actually if do some more research you will find it has been shown as more than plausible that life can be created from nothing, there are many scientific journals and papers on the topic if you care to look for them. Even RNA creation from basic pre-biotic chemicals was shown possible in experiments conducted at the University of Manchester in 2009.
anthropic1 7 months ago
I think grouping all peoples on earth into three categories is over simplification,
to say the least.
Shawnruss 8 months ago
@la2111 It is good to know that you know you cannot disprove God. Also, I never said you HAVE to believe in God either, that is your choice. As for evolution within species I have no doubt that it exist, but it doesnt disprove God... it doesnt prove anything except that evolution takes place... it doesnt disprove creation either... nor do we have physical evidence that anything proves it... It comes down to this in the end, believe what you want to believe... KNOWING is something else
Stillswayz 8 months ago
@Stillswayz Indeed you cannot disprove god (or prove his existence). The evidence for evolution is so overwhelming now there is no argument within science only on certain details and there are plenty of transitional fossils and evidence from DNA.
How the universe and life came to be on this planet can now be explained without the need for biblical creation.
The best argument for a creator would be at the moment of the big bang as nobody (not even your minister) knows what started it.........
la2111 8 months ago 4
A person who thinks they're right is a fool? Do you believe you're right in saying that? Uh-oh.
If you would be so kind as to read the entire verse of Pro. 12:15, you'll see that Solomon is contrasting the fool with the wise man in that the wise man heeds counsel, whereas the fool ignores it and simply thinks he is right.
Stop fooling people and hindering science. It is your interpretation of the Bible that is wrong, not the millions of biologists and the overwhelming evidence for Evolution.
AgApE010 9 months ago
You call this: "How to debate an evolutionist".
And you start with quoting scripture (proverbs in your case) .
...right... good luck ;)
mindwis3 9 months ago
GOD BLESS YOU SIR, THIS VIDEO WAS AWESOME :)
reallycoolman2003 9 months ago
@JAB63096 You attack blatant lies? Why is it you seem so confident that you KNOW? Can you prove that? And how did you come to this conclusion? And even with that aside, why is it that to strengthen your "faith" you need to trample on another man's belief... If you are so certain that what you know is infallible (and we both know it isnt) then you don't need to rely on the crutch of bigotry for your beliefs to be truthful.
Stillswayz 9 months ago
Evolution is a proven fact, and not up for debate. You're argument is very one sided and hypocritical, seeing as how you talk about listening to all arguments, yet all of your evidence comes from the Bible, which is flawed, mistranslated, and changed by the corrupt. You are very jaded.
JAB63096 9 months ago
@JAB63096 where do you get YOUR "facts"? Who says evolution is a fact, except the arrogant commenters on this video, who could have simply ignored it.. but instead felt obligated to attack it... And not to prove evolution is a fact but to simply attack Christianity.
I agree he is very one-sided, he basically says that open minded people will certainly accept Christian literature... no dispute there, but one can simply ignore it...
Stillswayz 9 months ago
@Stillswayz
talkorigins[dot]org, thats where all the evidence supporting evolution is, there's mountains of it
besides, evolution itself is already a fact, it's observable and testable
faith, by definition, is a belief without and justification involving proof. faith is a useless concept, its actually counterproductive since all it does is halt any further research when you decide on a false conclusion & support it with faith
WitchHunter93 9 months ago
@WitchHunter93 Firstly it seems that you do not know what a fact really is and secondly what faith really means. Because something is observable and testable does not make it a fact. A fact is a concept that is infallible and will always be infallible. Theories that have throughout the years been debunked at some point in time SEEMED infallible. Have YOU observed and tested those theories you believe in? If not then you have "faith" in the literature that did... sounds familiar
Stillswayz 9 months ago
@Stillswayz
it would be faith if there wasn't any evidence, however there's a huge amount of evidence supporting evolution
and yes, evolution is indeed proven. it's been tested and confirmed
a theory may not be able to be absolutely proven, but evolution itself has been proven to exist and does exist on every organism that can reproduce
faith =/= reliability
faith involves belief, yes, but its belief without evidence. believing in something with evidence is not faith
WitchHunter93 9 months ago
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@Stillswayz
h t tp:// en. wikipedia . o r g / wiki/ Evolution_as_theory_and_fact
this should help
evolution has obviously been proven to exist, it is also a scientific fact
WitchHunter93 9 months ago
@Stillswayz I'm not sure of the date on these studies, but 98% of all scientists accept evolution as true. The 2% who don't are almost all driven by religion. Evolution is taught as the soul source of humanity in the majority of public schools in America. I don't attack religion, I attack blatant lies.
JAB63096 9 months ago
You are a waste of time!
SuperFuckyourgod 9 months ago
It's simple.You don't debate evolutionists because most Christians think that evolution states that a brick will turn to a human being.
Stevoukos 9 months ago
You had better believe we have an over abundance of fools....
Most force themselves into believing in space wizards....
AvatarOfAvatar 9 months ago
speaking of fools, evolution has nothing to do with whether God exists or not and nothing to do with how life began. But hey, you seem to enjoy quoting from the bible so knock yourself out - looking foolish.
dubbleplusgood 10 months ago
The symbolism you use in this video makes my head hurt. You should research a little about semiotics to strengthen your video compositions, just a thought.
kern0099 10 months ago
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@ Scyllaeum - Quote: " 'The fool is right in his own eyes' Sums up theists perfectly." End Quote - RIGHT ON! I agree! Too bad some moron flagged your comment as spam! It was probably some Christard Funny-mentalist with shit for brains! So, I quote you, so that people can still read what you have said. Now, some Christard bed-wetting ignoramus will probably flag this comment as spam!
BigFatMan1951 10 months ago
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"The fool is right in his own eyes" Sums up theists perfectly.
Scyllaeum 10 months ago
You arent exactly quallefied to call those who accepts the theory of evolution a fool.
Why not? because you dont eeven know what the theory of evolution is, you made that clear in the begining.
And according to your bible youre sending yourself to hell by calling others a fool.
Matthew 5: 21-22. Have a nice stay in your hell buddy.
Sweddude 10 months ago
@ kingdmculture - Yeah! I do cuss and swear! But I have a damn good reason for it! All my life I have had to deal with self-righteous little punks like you! So, I'm a fool and I'm wicked because I liked to study science. When I was going to school, I was also called a "fag" because I didn't like sports. Yeah! I like science, and I hate football, so I guess that makes me a foolish and wicked fag! Uh huh! That's right! Well, once again, FUCK YOU AND GO TO HELL!!!
BigFatMan1951 11 months ago
@BigFatMan1951 You're such a nerd... So this means I can kick your ass and stomp you on the ground for being such a fuck? Does this indicate that majority of the atheist on youtube are actual nerds with glasses that mocks christianity? Yeah, you are a fag, too. Hehe, I'm just kidding....except about the fag part and being a nerd...
digga115 10 months ago
@ kingdmculture - The more I study this video, the more I see you're just another self-righteous young punk, like VenomFangX who was eventually banned from YouTube for filing false DMCA claims against educational channels on science and Evolution. So, I guess I'm wicked and a fool because I support Darwin's theory on Evolution. Well, I have never harmed another human being in my life, but when I was 17 years old, I was once beaten and raped by a Christian! Yeah! A fucking Christard!
BigFatMan1951 11 months ago
@BigFatMan1951 Who would want to rape you?...
digga115 10 months ago
So the only people that are the "wise man" are the suckers that are weak minded and dont immediately refute your fake cult like religion? So what one am I, i havnt cursed, so i cant be a fool, or wicked, i must be a wise man, so you, just like your bible contradict yourself.
Blueace12345 11 months ago
@ kingdmculture - Well, we have Kent Hovend, a Christian Creationist who is currently serving 10 years in prison for tax fraud! So much for being a good Christian! Eh? When I was a kid growing up, I have been beaten and abused by Christians! So, pardon my French . . . but . . . GO FUCK YOURSELF!!! And have a nice day! OK?
BigFatMan1951 11 months ago
‘blind unbelief in one thing springs from blind belief in another’ Georg Christoph Lichtenberg. You're the fool, blindly believing a factually devoid work of primitive cultures rather than understanding that has resulted from critical reasoning and an immense evidence base. The story we learn through scientific investigation is far more wonderful and amazing than the blood soaked, perverse, racist, sexist and guilt ridden chapters of that horrible book.
MothIncarnate 11 months ago
god created big ben which later became adam and eve
EEERRIK 11 months ago
wow, you pretty much disqualify the video in the very first sentence there. Evolution has got nothing to say about how life was first created, that's a whole different thing. All evolution is about is how, over time, life can change. No need to go on watching, I guess, since I doubt it'll get any better from that point on. :D
commanderkruge 11 months ago
@commanderkruge It doesnt. All redundant strawman.
shoopoop21 11 months ago
@shoopoop21 Seriously - it does. Check it out. :)
commanderkruge 11 months ago
@commanderkruge I was talking about the video.
You made me watch this shit from start to finish!
You cruel bastard! D:<
shoopoop21 11 months ago
@shoopoop21 Ooooh, sorry - I misunderstood you then! :( I thought you meant me pointing out his fundamental mistake!
commanderkruge 11 months ago
This is a joke right? Don't think, just do what we tell you too.
jdstech95 11 months ago
This video is comedy gold.
LondonIrishRover 11 months ago 2
Thats it man .. thats it :D
Those wicked persons ... oh ... i`ve spend so much time telling them about evidences they can touch, where they can see them... etc... But their answers have always been something like "that proves nothing, you gave me nothing + lots of cursing xD
From then on i`m ignoring them in the beginning xD
You have congratulations on explaining and classifying those kind of people in the understandable,recognizable and easy way! Thank you you`ve made my day :D
soundofpurpose 11 months ago
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you457wx 1 year ago
i've been dealing with the theory of evolution from alot of different people, and i believe God finally opened my eyes. all the theory of evolution proves is we came from one creator, or source, ( which confirms the bible). the athiest interpret the creator as amino-acid, and the rest of us think it was God. so it's just a matter of interpretation, and in no way proves God doesn't exist.
you457wx 1 year ago
@you457wx Ahh found you! - on this page repeating the same drivel again. Now I know where you get you 'proof' from lol.....
Misinformation, disinformation, sinister propanda, childish footstomping and good old fashioned lies.
Yes ladies and gents the paranoid, superstitious mind at 'work', blocking mankinds' advance every step of the way.
There is nothing creative about the creationist mind - their lack of curiosity is their 'curse'.........simple minded people of one book....;-)
la2111 1 year ago 12
@la2111 your an idiot, and the sad thing is everyone can see that but you, just because you don't have your own mind, doesn't mean we're all like you..
you457wx 1 year ago
@you457wx
I nearly agree with you - but they do say the definition of and educated man is that he sees ignorance in his fellow man but also in himself. Get my drift.....?
la2111 1 year ago 5
@la2111 I can assume that by sarcastically quoting the word 'proof' in your rebuttal to you457wx you are one to find solace in a concept that can be proven. Can you prove all that you said? Can you prove that evolution is a fact? Can you prove that God does not exist? If you can, then your belief system is infallible. Christianity isnt about piecing and debunking theories... it is about faith. Faith does require proof. As it stands, whose belief system seems fallible now?
Stillswayz 9 months ago
@Stillswayz Evolution by random mutation and natural selection is backed up by Carbon dating, taxonomy, molecular biology, paleontology and has been observed. There are over 200,000 PEER reviewed papers on evolution for you to refute...........
As for faith - it has NO proof - faith is the belief WITHOUT evidence.
As a rationalist I know fine well that you cannot disprove god - but on balance, on the available evidence I dont believe....s o r r y.....
la2111 9 months ago 4
whene i was 12 years old my parents died.my christian family left me to live on the streets.thay did not want to spend there money to help eneyone.so dont tell me how wonderfull christians are.
billbo1154 1 year ago
Please learn about what your talking about as far as science.... Take your own advice about the wise man and don't be the fool. LOL A fool is always right, not open Man you dont realise your talking about yourself right?
seeker6789 1 year ago
Huge hole in your entire argument. You claim evolution states that everything came from nothing. In fact, quite the opposite. Evolution starts with life that is already existent. Abiogenesis is the study of how self replicating organisms came to be and how they came to the stage of life. Cosmology studies how planets are made, and the big bang theory states hypothesis about the expansion of the universe. No field of science states, "everything came from nothing."
shadywolf91 1 year ago
@shadywolf91 Well, Evoltion is still an extreamly unscentific explaination for the diversity of life. Believe it if you must but don't call it science. I mean once you cross Creator God off the list you are not left with many options no matter how unscentific they are. PS Allot of highly aclaimed scentists do say that everything came from notthing.
Were do you choose to believe everything came from if not from an all powerful transendant Creator and designer God?
kingdmculture 1 year ago
@kingdmculture Actually no, evolution is a science because it is testable and falsifiable. And once you cross any deity off the list, it can easily be replaced with any other imaginary figure or even space aliens. And please name one scientist that claims everything came from nothing and that they claim this is evolution.
To answer your question, I don't know. It's not hard to say, and you don't need a god of the gaps.
shadywolf91 1 year ago
@shadywolf91 Even if you go to space aliens you that just pushes the question further away but same problems of creation and life. Macro evolution scentifec? Poppycock!! Who told you that? 1. "It is now becoming clear that everything can -- and probably did -- come from nothing." Robert A. J. Matthews, physicist, Ashton University, England
kingdmculture 1 year ago
@shadywolf91 4. "Even if we don't have a precise idea of exactly what took place at the
beginning, we can at least see that the origin of the universe from nothing
need not be unlawful or unnatural or unscientific." Paul Davies, physicist,
Arizona State University
kingdmculture 1 year ago
@shadywolf91
5. "Assuming the universe came from nothing, it is empty to begin with . . .
Only by the constant action of an agent outside the universe, such as God,
could a state of nothingness be maintained. The fact that we have something
is just what we would expect if there is no God." Victor J. Stenger,
atheist, Prof. Physics, University of Hawaii. Author of, God: The Failed
Hypothesis. How Science Shows That God Does Not Exist
kingdmculture 1 year ago
@shadywolf91
6. "Few people are aware of the fact that many modern physicists claim that
things -- perhaps even the entire universe -- can indeed arise from nothing
via natural processes. Creation ex nihilo -- Without God (1997), Atheist,
Mark I. Vuletic
kingdmculture 1 year ago
@shadywolf91
Wow, you were really misinformed on this one. You really should question yourself what else you were misinformed about. Got lots more names if you want.
kingdmculture 1 year ago
@kingdmculture Interesting, I was not aware of these physicists. Perhaps I should have been clearer, I was speaking of evolution. Which has nothing to do with the origin of the universe. . I should have said biologist, my mistake. And the same question about your deity arises with space aliens. Where did he come from?
shadywolf91 1 year ago
@shadywolf91 Just tell Kingdomcultist that evolution can make predictions as to what intermediate animals will look like and where fossils will be located. Creationism cannot because the default answer is 'Gawd dunnit'. Why, how? Why did the creator not make things randomly or with creative physiological trails - like 4 heads or 3 legs and put them any old place? I dont think Kcultist knows what falsifiability means.
GreatGungHolio 1 year ago
@GreatGungHolio I agree
shadywolf91 1 year ago
@kingdmculture Why do you call evolution an "extreamly unscentific" explanation for the diversity of life? Have you even looked at the evidence for it? And why do you assume accepting evolution means you automatically cross a creator god off the list? Did you not know that many believers accept evolution as well?
TheLordOfTheSporks 1 year ago
To the creator of this video:
I think the things you said & the way you used scripture are very edifying to a lot of Christians. I believe it leaves a poor impression on believers and non-believers when Christians speak recklessly in a debate, out of frustration.
I think the pictures in the video are kind of a turn-off. They seem a little too aggressive and hostile.
Otherwise, great post. :)
Gby.
Kassvids 1 year ago
Heh heh, this video was less about how to debate and more about who to avoid. It basically told me only talk to people who agree with you, or look like they're going to agree with you.
Every atheist, agnostic, pagan, or anyone other then christian who wrote a comment is already a better person than this guy's target audience, simply for the fact that you are engaging in thoughtful debate and not rejecting someone for lack of understanding.
shaded78 1 year ago
"Do not speak in the hearing of a fool." Does that mean we should not bother trying to instruct you? By the way it should be "Fools don't listen to anybody" not "Fools don't listen to nobody" Fools have poor grammar as well I guess....
carrots001 1 year ago
Wow, at about 2:30 they categorized effectively the entire scientific community as "wise". Accepting new evidence is the foundation of science.
dsgamecube 1 year ago
Religion is losing mate...people are not as stupid as they used to be!
Religion = EPIC FAIL
nuksucow1983 1 year ago 2
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by using your logic.... you are a fool kingdmculture
IIIxSANDMANxIII 1 year ago
@klootzakisme You forgot to call them stupid assholes but this is the level of 'debate' they are looking for.
This 'debate' can be summed up easily on the Christian side:
Don't talk about facts and figures - just say 'magic man did it' and accuse everyone else of being an idiot who will go to hell for not repeating the inanity.
GreatGungHolio 1 year ago
@GreatGungHolio Magic eh?
That is what you supposedly ligical folks always resort to when coming to questions of how life came about, how stars formed, where did all the matter, time, space, laws, order intellegence come from. There is no scientifec explaination so you pretend there is no Creator and bash those who do. What's up with that. Is that supposed to be the scentific approch?
kingdmculture 1 year ago
@kingdmculture For a start, you ignorance is breathtaking. Star formation is well understood - go see any astronomy textbook. As for the rest of your list, science and mathematics offer tangible and testable theories through experiment. What exactly can religion offer other than the term 'creator'? What evidence is there? Where did the creator come from? Why not think that ALL laws exist in infinite parallel universes and life/intelligence is a statistical certainty?
GreatGungHolio 1 year ago
@GreatGungHolio Well thanks for the attack on my character, that does nothing to advance your arugument. I gave many evidences for a Creator God as the best explaination is a desighner. I have beliefs about God that are my faith but an explaination of my explaination is not requiered for it to remain the best explaination. If you found artifacts burried in the ground you would not need to know the origins of the perosons who designed them, yet persons are still the best explaination for them.
kingdmculture 1 year ago
@kingdmculture "How Stars formed" -Stellar evolution.
"Where did it all come from" - The Big Bang
There, Five words that answer all your questions, and what is the difference you ask? My words can be backed up with at least some evidence, whereas you are left with "I don't understand it, therefore god", or "So you while you can explain A,D and G, you still have B,C,E and F unknown. And that is god", or equal excuses.
Just keep pulling god back to the holes, and eventually it will disappear.
Daealis 1 year ago
@kingdmculture "supposedly ligical folks always resort to when coming to questions of how life came about, how stars formed..There is no scientifec explaination..." These are your words. What would you call me if I said 'nobodys knows what the capital of France is?'
GreatGungHolio 1 year ago
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What helpful instructions on how to debate........They are bad, bad people and go away, don't talk to them, don't listen to them.
Pathetic
Aleksamson 1 year ago
What a helpful instructions on how to debate........They are bad, bad people and go away, don't talk to them, don't listen to them.
Pathetic
Aleksamson 1 year ago
GOD DOES NOT EXIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
greenghost2008 1 year ago
@greenghost2008 Why do you believe that God does not exist?
kingdmculture 1 year ago
@kingdmculture Why don't you believe Thor exist?
greenghost2008 1 year ago
@greenghost2008 Thor never did anything for me or for millions and millions of others like Jesus did. No historical veracity, no following. No prophetic book from him. No, awsome laws for life given or followed by anyone I ever new. No miraculous signs from him. I couuld go on. But look. I let you answer with a question. I played allong. You made a claim to explain you position of why you believe this. I simply ask why YOU believe God does not exist.?
kingdmculture 1 year ago
@kingdmculture Same reason you don't belive in Thor. There is absolutly no evidence of any deity any where.
greenghost2008 1 year ago
@greenghost2008 Wow I listed allot of evidence.
You know there is a God and that there has to be a God. You 'can't' find Him for the same reason a robber 'can't' find a police officer. You love you sin and rebelion against the Creator. No one has ever seen a building without a builder, or a painting with out a painter, yet you want to believe in a creatioin with all the order, design with out a designer. That is rediculous and you know it. You have more faith than me to believe that wopper.
kingdmculture 1 year ago
@kingdmculture The free market needs no designer. Nearly 7 Billion people following their own interest creates the global market. No need for a man at the top. Seemes likely that the universe is the same way. Not requiring a designer. The forces and stuff that makes up the universe simply carriesout its nature in the context of the universe and there you go existence. No maker no beginning and no end.
Jesus was one of dozens of prophets of his time
greenghost2008 1 year ago
@greenghost2008 That's just a really sad argument. Highly complex thinking, reasoning, creative bieings with intelligence all contributed to what you call the free market. Not unguided dirt that came from nowhere that somhow made systems about a billion times more complex that the example you chose of the free market. You need mighty faith to believe that.
Jesus was, is God according to scripture.
kingdmculture 1 year ago
@kingdmculture That still doesn't prove it is the christian god.
greenghost2008 1 year ago
@greenghost2008 ,
you must be high on Kool-Aide, there's beginning and ending to everything.
THEBADASSOROMO 1 year ago
@THEBADASSOROMO Within reality but reality itself is eternal.
greenghost2008 1 year ago