That first officer should feel lucky to find himself under Data's command. I wonder how things would have turned out if someone like Worf were sent to command USS Sutherland instead. By the time the mission is over, there is not going to be much remaining pieces left over from Mr. Hobson. :P
"Mr. Hobson, it is inappropriate for you to determine a course of action without consulting your Commanding Officer." Data should remind Riker of that ...
Around 1:15 Data: "I understand your concern sir... request denied"... (then after this he no longer refers to hopsins by his last name, but instead by the term... b***)
around 1:44 Data: "you've taken the tourpedo and phaser control units offline"... "b***, it is innapropriate to take any actions without consulting your commanding officer"
@daveenterpriseptyltd Both Hobson and Data have to full pips and one black one, indicating both are lt. commanders. Data outranks Hobson in this episode because he's the captain and Hobson is the first officer. Once the episode is over, Data doesn't outrank Hobson anymore when he goes back to the Enterprise to resume his duties as operations officer.
@ryhoyarbie Yeah I realize the pips are identical now, it's just that in one brief moment in the scene it looked like as if Hobson had 3 pips due to lighting issues. It seems as if the one pip that is ment to be just a holow pip with a gold outline and a dark center was momentarilly a full pip reflecting light. Either the make up artist stuffed up the uniform in one brief scene take before editing, or it was lighting... watch the clip closely youll see what i mean.
@samueldavs Nope, she is yar's daughter. Reality changes to an alternate when the enterprise c comes through a warm hole, yar lives, when she finds out through Guinan that she died a meaningless death in the real universe she transfers to the enterprise c, which returns to the past, where yar is captured. She marries a Romulan and has a child, yar tries to escape, but the child realises this and helps her mother get recaptured, yar is executed, and the child grows to hate the federation.
around 5:58 Data: "i'd like to present myself for disciplinary action, though the result of my actions did prove favorable... I didn't lay down the law heavy enough on one of my officers"
Picard: "the saying 'I was just following orders has been used to justify too many mistakes of the past', nicely done"
Data: um.. no no, I would rather just speak to mr. hopsins in person again... to clear up this matter
No Data sadly wasn't able to feel or emit actual emotion at this point. But! He had full knowledge of the human psyche and was a wonderful actor. So it'd make sense that he could at least portray himself as being angry to get results.
@DOWSOE I wouldnt bitch slap him. I'd choose an old school punishment which is technically still on the Starfleet books, though never used: A good old fashioned flogging. A few dozen lashes on the grating on the observation deck would work. I'm sure a cat o nine tails can be replicated.
@atomikus37 If you want to get politically pedantic about it, he didn't destroy them or do serious damage because it would have started an all out confrontation between the Romulans and the Federation. IIRC properly this was during the whole political intrigue in the Klingon empire so they didn't need the Romulans on their ass on top of that.
@msinvincible2000 When Data saw how out of hand his XO was getting, I think he tried to see how Captain Picard would act and imitated it. I imagin Picard would sound very pissed off if Riker acted up on the bridge during a crises.
Klingon Counsellor: "Bah dreams! You have to rip the heart out of those bad dreams and eat them while drinking a whole barrel of bloodwine. Then you have to battle your way through a million enemies and drink the blood of a ferocious beast and wear the head as a trophy. Then you will have no bad dreams then. Be a warrior you puny human!"
I always thought Data was a perfect commander. Simply perfect. Should have become captain years ago. I was always annoyed by people (mostly SF admirals, enlightened as they are) saying he lacks some "human skills" or rather. Well, he is NOT human, he doesn't have to be like human. Why should he? He doesn't have emotions? Neither do Vulcans. Why humnas always want everybody be like them, laugh at their jockes and play football. Data is not human- he is better. Just an opinion..
That said, Data did do one thing wrong. Rather than dismissing Captain Picard with a "Standby Captain" he probably should have said something like, "Captain I believe I have found a way to detect the Romulans and force them to stand down." Undoubtedly, Picard would have agreed to let Data proceed since he well knows Data's abilities. That would have prevented some of the tension created by Dobson questioning Data's disobeying a direct order.
That 1st officer should of been relieved a long time ago after questioning and delaying every order after they were giving. In the real Navy, if that ever happend on a ship, pack your bags
It IS rather strange how meteoric some characters were in their rank climbing than others. It took Data 27 years to become a Lt Cmdr, but Riker was already in the running for his own vessel after only 12 years and Laforge got two promotions from Lt JG to Lt Cmdr in 2-3 years!
(You can look up this movie on youtube. Brent is very young in this movie. He is in the 1st half of the movie. This was right before he started on ST:TNG.)
Unfortunately he's not in a whole lot of movies, because of 7 years on ST and then 4 ST films after that.
@ClipHunter4 actually it's only the US Military and those who take their lead from it who routinely call LTCDR's by 'CDR' or LTCOL's by 'COL'. UK, Australia and NZ use the full rank at all times with a strict distinction between LTCDR and CDR, etc.
The term 'Captain' applies to any ship, regardless of the rank of the CO.
It's funny that Data chastises his first officer for taking the photons and phasers offline without first consulting him, yet he takes action without first consulting Captain Picard.
@tdog652041 Agreed. But he is disobeying Picard's orders without first consulting him, even though Captain Picard is head of the fleet, and therefore Data's commander. That would be like Picard disobeying Admiral Smith's order to go to Vulcan, and he goes to Risa instead. He'd be in the wrong, even though he is the final authority on the Enterprise.
@terminat1 well, Picard did defy his superiors on other ocassions, like entering the fight in Sector 001 against the orders of Admiral Hayes, and when he entered the Briar Patch...
The ship Data is commanding is similar in size and design to the Enterprise-D. Why didn't they just redress the Ent-D bridge set instead of using this tiny bridge set?
Data would have made the perfect captain. There is no one I would have felt more comfortable having in charge if I was on that ship. He could have handled the Enterprise all on his own. In fact, he kinda did once or twice.
That 2nd in command officer is somewhat justified to be skeptical. From everything Ive seen of the show Data lacks several insights into "human" behaviour that could very well prove indispensable to a leader.
@rbairos1 how? data quite literally saved the entire enterprise dozens of times. in measure of a man he even busts out a plaque with all of starfleet's highest honors. which insights would he really be lacking?
@terrasweet The show writers makes sure to hilight the fact he lacks emotions, and is often perplexed by the behaviour of other humanoids. A skill other captains would take for granted, and use to their advantage when trying to internally model the intentions/behaviour of other humanoids.
@rbairos1 well the captain isn't the only person aboard a vessel who can size up opponents via the view screen. as for guessing moves/intentions of the enemy, data models those all the time; he's usually the first to make hypotheses in the show, and as picard often says, his hypotheses are rarely wrong.
@terrasweet Ultimately we're discussing a fictional character, but the writers do often make sure to write him ultimately puzzled by things like humour, so again, hes lacking some basic insights other captains would take for granted. That and the fact that hes the only one of his kind, its right to be skeptical.
I like how Data's gaze, complete with anger, is extended slightly more so than it would have been otherwise had he not learned those human emotions, at 03:50.
This is the second of three times Data owns Sela. The third if with Spock on Romulus, and the first was the time they tried to brainwash Geordi, it was her order. So basically if your Romulan stay the hell away from Data.
All Federation ships proced at maximum warp to Gamma Eridon. Not so hot girls there, we hear.
All stop. There has to be a latent hot one around here, somewhere, who is a virgin, yet not a prude. Maybe even a Virgin and a virgin, yet not a prude? Screw going to Gamma Eridon.
Humans are not so much different than Data is. As an analogy for sexual attraction, we all have our own programming sequences in our DNA, as well as different astrological influences. Those things are kind of like computer programs and code. I'm programmed like a supercomputer to like extremely hot girls...extremely hot and extremely inexperienced girls. It's just Basic.
The fact that they never promoted Data to full commander during the series indicates that Starfleet was a more intolerant and close-minded institution than its members choose to believe.
Are you referring to the comic that gave the backstory to the movie from 2009? It was cool seeing him as captain. If there is another comic with Data getting a promotion, I would like to know about it.
I did like Chain of Command though since Data got to wear command red for a while.
@SoulReaperRukia well I think the reason why Data was never promoted to full commander because he's next in line to be first officer after Riker. Since Picard was never promoted to Admiral and Riker turned down his own command to remain the first officer, Data couldn't really move up in rank.
@Borastheantichrist Well it's not like they promoted anyone else in the series (TNG). All started with the same rank they ended with, except for Wesley and Troi (bridge officer). Okay, and Worf too, but that was only after the movie.
@Borastheantichrist While I would of loved to see Data to be promoted during the series, just because he wasn't doesn't mean that Starfleet is close-minded. There were many other members of the crew who were never promoted during the series but may have been promoted at a later date. The same could be said of Data. They may never make him captain of the Enterprise, but his giving him his own ship, definitely a possibility.
@gokuo64 Yeah, but that series had such a severe case of political correctness that its panties were always in a bind. Virtually every admiral was a chick and Deanna and Beverly were promoted, even though they weren't originally command officers. STTNG just had to show how "enlightened" it was. Even Worf got promoted, even though Data, who had served AT LEAST as well, was in the service longer.
@Borastheantichrist No it doesn't. You can't really mess too much with with the main cast. That's like saying Starfleet is racist because Geordi was still chief engineer on the Enterprise after twenty years.
@Borastheantichrist maybe true even in the 24 Century their are preducie's but people or crew members still get transferred. Riker turn down Command mabe Picard could of ask for an early retirement. just a thought. ( its a t.v. show ) but fun to think about
@Borastheantichrist By that same token, that can be considered why Harry Kim remained an ensign for 7 years on voyager. I prefer to think that data, like Riker, turned down promotion opportunities (off screen) in order to stay on the Enterprise (and the show), and wait for the chance for promotion while remaining onboard. Which is what happens as he becomes Picards first officer in nemesis and eventually Captain in the comic.
@NecessaryTruths That was just an acting role though as the captain and first officer were gone at the time. He was still wearing the Lt. Commander insignia, unlike Riker who wore the captain's insignia in Best of Both Worlds Part II.
@pfiberoptik Q fucks with everybody who wears a starfleet commander uniform. First Picard, then Riker, then Sisko, then Janeway. I'd be bored as shit to if I had the boundless and eternal powers of a God, but no one to worship me and pray in my name.
With the host of episodes where the captain and crew get all fucked up with some alien mind control or parasites and he has to bail their shit out, I think Data should have assumed command of the Enterprise on the first episode.
At least Q wasn't always fucking with him like Picard.
@jpmoney184 I'm just saying. Dr. Crusher outranks Data. If the writers wanted to outline a proper chain of command. Data, as second officer, should outrank both Crusher and Troi, but he never did.
I never understood why Data was 3rd officer of the enterprise. He is capable yes. However,Dr. Crusher outranks him, and Councelor Troi was his same rank until she was promoted to Full Commander. Watching this I can see why. In Hobson's defence, I don't think its fair to force a Lieutenant Commander to work under another Lieutenant Commander. The Admiral must have been itching for a testosterone match. Or in Data's case synthetitosterone.
@beaugar22 I think it has to do with qualifications. As I understand it, Data is the third in line thats qualified to command. Troi did take command be default in "Disaster" and didn't know what was going on. Similar to how commanders in the USN's carrier wings don't have operational control over the ship, the XO of the ship does, and how ship's chaplains are officers, but don't perform command duties on the ship. Both are officers, just not command level.
In the military today an officer of one rank can have a subordinate of the same rank. Usually, it's a matter of seniority, but sometimes it's a matter of specialized training.
Crusher and Troi weren't command officers, their ranks indicated greater training/experience within their fields and therefore they wouldn't ordinarily be put into a situation requiring Command style training and experience.
In my opinion, I don't think Hobbson felt to keen on the idea of serving under a peer (same rank) I think he uses Data's artificial intelligence as a pretext to serve under a full Commander or Captain, as opposed to a Lieutenant Commander wearing an operations uniform. I would have felt slighted too.
Data is enormously sexy in command. I love when he barks "Do it!" and "Fire!". Emotion? or just a programmed variance taking into consideration an increased auditory command can create a more pronouced point for a desired reaction? Trek & Data rule.
Pure quality. This is what Star Trek is about. You'll find a similar attempt at "insubordination" or challenge to the chain of command in the "Star Trek" 2009 abomination. It failed to make an impact. Just like the movie. Unless you consider the impact of the Big Explosions(TM). There were plenty of those. Sadly, that's about all there was.
@bellerophon602 oh no they also had Chris Pine in his underwear and Quinto making out with the hot chick and some kid going insane in his stepfather's car! Those things were always missing from the Star Trek movies ya know. ***huge load of sarcasm***
The only reason I like this ep is because of theses scene right here. Dates taking command is the most priceless jewel in the ST:TNG universe. That crap-head needed to be put in his place so bad!! >:|
Not sure if someone mentioned this but... Hobson's elbow is on the terminal.. Wouldn't he idk accidently overload the secondary gyrodyne propulsion matrix or something.. I mean its a big elbow.. Or do terminals have a keypad lock like phones do ? =P
It seems as if the elbow itself is leaning on an intersection between two panels.
BTW: we obviously suggest here that a certain impulse and pressure are the activating forces with those terminals like the touch-screens we know from our mobile phones. What if these terminals are activated by finger-pressure only ? (i.e.: focussed/local pressure-surge plus electric field of the skin)
wow, he pissed him off twice...oh wait, wait, nope, make that three times....you are a talented man, Mr. Hobson
irishoorah 1 week ago
OMGaryOldman, i think Hobson is the only person who can take credit for getting on Data's 'last nerve'
irishoorah 1 week ago
Data was not supposed to get angry...he has no feelings....
Exosquad11 1 week ago in playlist Favorite videos
@Exosquad11 - He was taking after Picard, who does have emotions. Data considers him to be like a father figure/mentor to him.
Sparrow9612 4 days ago
"I understand your concerns. Request denied." Hah, I love that!
andyt1313 2 weeks ago
All you saying shit about Hobson can never be fit to lead as captain.
AliTubelog 1 month ago
If I ever served in starfleet, I'd gladly serve under the command of Captain Data.
AliTubelog 1 month ago 3
he he he he who's yer daddy!
cptfunkstar 1 month ago
That first officer should feel lucky to find himself under Data's command. I wonder how things would have turned out if someone like Worf were sent to command USS Sutherland instead. By the time the mission is over, there is not going to be much remaining pieces left over from Mr. Hobson. :P
Waterflux 1 month ago 3
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AliTubelog 1 month ago
"Mr. Hobson, it is inappropriate for you to determine a course of action without consulting your Commanding Officer." Data should remind Riker of that ...
Uridien 2 months ago
Request denied! PWND
bregolingo 2 months ago 3
Lt. Cmdr Hobson is an asshole!
garyda1 2 months ago 2
"request denied"
aleksisofevil 2 months ago
Data, you were awesome!
enterprise160 2 months ago
..... FIRE!!!
aussiebattler85 3 months ago
Around 1:15 Data: "I understand your concern sir... request denied"... (then after this he no longer refers to hopsins by his last name, but instead by the term... b***)
around 1:44 Data: "you've taken the tourpedo and phaser control units offline"... "b***, it is innapropriate to take any actions without consulting your commanding officer"
jaymorpheus11 3 months ago
Super Awesome Data(Spiner) Coolness!! Wish they had more moments like this! Data should have had more moments of prejudice overcome.
240ups 3 months ago
Is it just me or did Data sound VERY odd when he said "all stop".
CynicalVision 4 months ago
Why does LtCmdr Hobson have 3 pips and Data only has 2? Doesn't that mean Hobson out ranks Data? Why are they both Lt Commanders?
daveenterpriseptyltd 4 months ago
@daveenterpriseptyltd Both Hobson and Data have to full pips and one black one, indicating both are lt. commanders. Data outranks Hobson in this episode because he's the captain and Hobson is the first officer. Once the episode is over, Data doesn't outrank Hobson anymore when he goes back to the Enterprise to resume his duties as operations officer.
ryhoyarbie 3 months ago
@ryhoyarbie Yeah I realize the pips are identical now, it's just that in one brief moment in the scene it looked like as if Hobson had 3 pips due to lighting issues. It seems as if the one pip that is ment to be just a holow pip with a gold outline and a dark center was momentarilly a full pip reflecting light. Either the make up artist stuffed up the uniform in one brief scene take before editing, or it was lighting... watch the clip closely youll see what i mean.
daveenterpriseptyltd 3 months ago
5:23 she is back from the dead as a romulan
samueldavs 4 months ago
@samueldavs Nope, she is yar's daughter. Reality changes to an alternate when the enterprise c comes through a warm hole, yar lives, when she finds out through Guinan that she died a meaningless death in the real universe she transfers to the enterprise c, which returns to the past, where yar is captured. She marries a Romulan and has a child, yar tries to escape, but the child realises this and helps her mother get recaptured, yar is executed, and the child grows to hate the federation.
TheAtheistFuture 3 months ago in playlist Lt. Commander Data
Great scene and great episode!
leehole 5 months ago
5 People got their Request Denied
theflash438 5 months ago 2
This has been flagged as spam show
I understand your concerns...request denied hahahahahahaahaha!!!
honotron 5 months ago
Wow, for an "emotionless" android, data displayed anger at that bitchy commander hopsins!
magykal101 5 months ago
around 5:58 Data: "i'd like to present myself for disciplinary action, though the result of my actions did prove favorable... I didn't lay down the law heavy enough on one of my officers"
Picard: "the saying 'I was just following orders has been used to justify too many mistakes of the past', nicely done"
Data: um.. no no, I would rather just speak to mr. hopsins in person again... to clear up this matter
Picard: by all means
minutes lator
hopsins:i'm so sorry sir i...
Data: it's time 2die
jaymorpheus11 5 months ago in playlist Star Trek TNG
You know Data is TOO Cool. And you say his emotion chip is not installed. :)
VONNAIR 5 months ago
I always enjoyed the character of Data. This is one of the more memorable episodes I remember.
SamusDrake 6 months ago 4
No Data sadly wasn't able to feel or emit actual emotion at this point. But! He had full knowledge of the human psyche and was a wonderful actor. So it'd make sense that he could at least portray himself as being angry to get results.
JaguarCats 6 months ago 4
Who here wants to bitch-slap Lt. Cmdr Chris Hobson ?
DOWSOE 6 months ago 23
@DOWSOE I wouldnt bitch slap him. I'd choose an old school punishment which is technically still on the Starfleet books, though never used: A good old fashioned flogging. A few dozen lashes on the grating on the observation deck would work. I'm sure a cat o nine tails can be replicated.
chrismc410 1 month ago
@DOWSOE-- I feel the same, only cause he resembles so much like ..David Miscavige the commanding leader of the church of Scientology.
INFLEXIBLY 1 month ago
Everywhere I have worked whether it be a boss or a junior there has always been a person just like this guy!
2490debrick 6 months ago 3
I Would Have Bitch Slapped His Ass
Clat2o 6 months ago
Captain Data for the win.
kakashi76767 6 months ago 5
@kakashi76767 Right!!!!
VONNAIR 5 months ago
After this event i think they should have at least one android serving on every starship just like aliens and one full emh hologram doctor...
lordmerlin10 7 months ago
5 people got their request denied!
NYPlayerT2 7 months ago
DATA: "Shut the ---- up and get your ass back in line or you will be summarily executed!"
robapr1 7 months ago 2
5 people had their request denied.
wijayapala 7 months ago 3
@atomikus37 If you want to get politically pedantic about it, he didn't destroy them or do serious damage because it would have started an all out confrontation between the Romulans and the Federation. IIRC properly this was during the whole political intrigue in the Klingon empire so they didn't need the Romulans on their ass on top of that.
phuturephunk 8 months ago
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elijahdavidsmom 9 months ago
wow, Data has his emotion chip in this episode or what? (I don't remember very well)
msinvincible2000 9 months ago
@msinvincible2000 When Data saw how out of hand his XO was getting, I think he tried to see how Captain Picard would act and imitated it. I imagin Picard would sound very pissed off if Riker acted up on the bridge during a crises.
Squibblings 9 months ago
@Squibblings agreed.....
stampede122 9 months ago
@msinvincible2000
No. I think he is simulating anger. He says many times that he doesn't have emotions in these two episodes. I think.
Zoiros85 8 months ago 3
@Zoiros85
He wasn't angry. he was stern. His mannerism reminded me more of Picard. No doubt Data has taken much influence on Command from watching Picard.
mngentry 8 months ago 5
I'd like to see a Klingon ship counselor.
Mayokitty7 9 months ago 25
@Mayokitty7 I can just hear that too:
Patient: "Counsellor, I have these bad dreams..."
Klingon Counsellor: "Bah dreams! You have to rip the heart out of those bad dreams and eat them while drinking a whole barrel of bloodwine. Then you have to battle your way through a million enemies and drink the blood of a ferocious beast and wear the head as a trophy. Then you will have no bad dreams then. Be a warrior you puny human!"
csgrambauer 3 months ago
@Mayokitty7 they slap you around and throw you out. you know a helpfull hand
travkeyes 2 months ago
Data maybe an android with no emotions but you can clearly see his first officer was pissing him off.
CantFeelMe 9 months ago 2
Its a Nebula class ship, u can see it at 2:46 and 4:12
Mrtrekkie156 9 months ago
Its a Nebula class ship, u can see it at 2:46
Mrtrekkie156 9 months ago
I always thought Data was a perfect commander. Simply perfect. Should have become captain years ago. I was always annoyed by people (mostly SF admirals, enlightened as they are) saying he lacks some "human skills" or rather. Well, he is NOT human, he doesn't have to be like human. Why should he? He doesn't have emotions? Neither do Vulcans. Why humnas always want everybody be like them, laugh at their jockes and play football. Data is not human- he is better. Just an opinion..
inesxenia 10 months ago 5
@inesxenia Vulcans DO have emotions, it's just that they're so volatile they have to be self-trained from a young age to suppress them.
ShadowSonic2 9 months ago
@inesxenia
I imagine Data would do very well on a Vulcan ship.
rkyeun 3 months ago
@rkyeun He's even better than the Vulcans.
LordHannigan 3 months ago
I understand your concerns. Attempting to give a damn..................process timed out.
hectiky 10 months ago 4
Mr. Data Should have beamed that insubordinate fuck into outter space!
happymax1 10 months ago 2
man data just is so.....so.....AWESOME!!! dang he just takes control.
peepzstar 10 months ago 3
Data rocks and Hobson is a insubordinate punk...
That said, Data did do one thing wrong. Rather than dismissing Captain Picard with a "Standby Captain" he probably should have said something like, "Captain I believe I have found a way to detect the Romulans and force them to stand down." Undoubtedly, Picard would have agreed to let Data proceed since he well knows Data's abilities. That would have prevented some of the tension created by Dobson questioning Data's disobeying a direct order.
yeehaw1981 11 months ago
That 1st officer should of been relieved a long time ago after questioning and delaying every order after they were giving. In the real Navy, if that ever happend on a ship, pack your bags
Ben1977820 11 months ago 2
Data is THE BEST!
jpope125 1 year ago
It IS rather strange how meteoric some characters were in their rank climbing than others. It took Data 27 years to become a Lt Cmdr, but Riker was already in the running for his own vessel after only 12 years and Laforge got two promotions from Lt JG to Lt Cmdr in 2-3 years!
ShadowSonic2 1 year ago 3
@ShadowSonic2 lol true!
GUAlliance 11 months ago
1:16 Data: "Oh, it's on bitch..."
stsars13 1 year ago 2
LOT OF ODD TENSION ON THIS SHIP !
ART1975CZ 1 year ago
1:20 his way of saying "SILENCE MEATBAG!"
HereticDuo 1 year ago
The Romulan fixed that . Tackion signature.
HarPlayer 1 year ago
Ladies and Gentlemen, Ellis Dewald!
liquid49286 1 year ago
@rmsolympic1
Here are 3 movies that Brent Spiner is in:
1. Out To Sea
2. Introducing Dorothy Dandridge
3. Master Of Disguise
4. Manhunt For Claude Dallas*
(You can look up this movie on youtube. Brent is very young in this movie. He is in the 1st half of the movie. This was right before he started on ST:TNG.)
Unfortunately he's not in a whole lot of movies, because of 7 years on ST and then 4 ST films after that.
That's about all I can recommend. Hope it helps!
Happy New Year!!!
datalorelover 1 year ago
@datalorelover You forgot about Independence Day and Dude Where's my Car? :D
Reptoyd 1 year ago
I imagine 7 minutes is literally the amount of time it would take to complete a mission if Data was put in charge
Dedokai32 1 year ago
Data would make an awesome Captain. Why he was never made Captain before now is beyond me.
Data rules.
Brent Spiner was born to play the role of Data. No one else could have played this role any better than him.
If it wasn't for the character of Data, Star Trek: TNG would not have been as popular as it was. End of story.
datalorelover 1 year ago 2
@datalorelover Yes, data is awesome, can u recommend great videos or movies with him in it?
rmsolympic1 1 year ago
This was an awesome episode.
majors77 1 year ago
4.44 DO IT BITCH!
Alexplus20 1 year ago 4
"I understand your concerns...request denied." - PWNED!
mordanai 1 year ago 47
@mordanai one of the best moments in all of STNG!
eyescandeceive 1 year ago
I understand your concerns. But since you are full of yourself and I am awesome your request is DENIED! :P
Altairograph 1 year ago 29
@ClipHunter4 actually it's only the US Military and those who take their lead from it who routinely call LTCDR's by 'CDR' or LTCOL's by 'COL'. UK, Australia and NZ use the full rank at all times with a strict distinction between LTCDR and CDR, etc.
The term 'Captain' applies to any ship, regardless of the rank of the CO.
blakjaknz 1 year ago
fuck u crew fuck u
data is fully ready for the authority
buggyboo81 1 year ago 2
@ClipHunter4 Weren't the limitations overcome thanks to the emotion chip in Star Trek: Generations?
SPeacock 1 year ago
I really belive Data is one of my all-time favorite characters from any show!
TheJesterGirl 1 year ago
I'm blind or at 1:56 Hobson wears Commander insignia :-)
Skabiczewski 1 year ago
@Skabiczewski Reflection of the light perhaps? I thought the same thing. That's why I don't particularly care for the intermediate rank pips.
ajcusn 1 year ago
@Skabiczewski You're blind. It's clearly two solid pips and one hollow pip.
FuckYouLetMeLogIn 1 year ago
Id trust data more than humans to be quiet honest
FrukSkoFcsae 1 year ago 5
The Romulans appear to be utterly stupid and senseless with Sela in command.
QuarkMesons 1 year ago
Data should have his own command.
janhammerrules 1 year ago 2
"Request denied."
OWNED
Milordvega 1 year ago 5
It's funny that Data chastises his first officer for taking the photons and phasers offline without first consulting him, yet he takes action without first consulting Captain Picard.
terminat1 1 year ago
@terminat1
That is because being captain of a ship is pretty close to being god. Everything on the ship must go through the captain.
GymnastNumberOne 1 year ago
@terminat1 He's Captain of that vessel. He is the supreme and ultimate authority on board.
tdog652041 10 months ago
@tdog652041 Agreed. But he is disobeying Picard's orders without first consulting him, even though Captain Picard is head of the fleet, and therefore Data's commander. That would be like Picard disobeying Admiral Smith's order to go to Vulcan, and he goes to Risa instead. He'd be in the wrong, even though he is the final authority on the Enterprise.
terminat1 10 months ago
@terminat1 well, Picard did defy his superiors on other ocassions, like entering the fight in Sector 001 against the orders of Admiral Hayes, and when he entered the Briar Patch...
jadephyre 10 months ago
@jadephyre Certainly he did. But he was wrong on those occasions, and could have been punished, had the admirals found it fit to do so.
terminat1 10 months ago
LIke Picard said. Nicely done! Thank you for posting. : )
spishack12 1 year ago
The ship Data is commanding is similar in size and design to the Enterprise-D. Why didn't they just redress the Ent-D bridge set instead of using this tiny bridge set?
Frost3784 1 year ago
Lt. Commander Hobson is Data's Bitch!
GroovieBuff 1 year ago 3
"Your service record shows that you would perform that job adequately."
YES, YES, YES, YES.
Also, the angry "DO IT!" is magnificent.
UpWithTerps 1 year ago
Data is so my moms fav lol... I am more a picard girl myself ;)
GUAlliance 1 year ago 10
@GUAlliance Hahaha, well both of them are my top fav characters! You both have good taste. XD
SoulReaperRukia 1 year ago 10
@GUAlliance Data and Riker are my favorites.
bendavis83 11 months ago
I understand you concen, REQUEST DENIED.lol I love Data. lol
JSpearman4 1 year ago 2
Data would have made the perfect captain. There is no one I would have felt more comfortable having in charge if I was on that ship. He could have handled the Enterprise all on his own. In fact, he kinda did once or twice.
Raea714 1 year ago 3
That 2nd in command officer is somewhat justified to be skeptical. From everything Ive seen of the show Data lacks several insights into "human" behaviour that could very well prove indispensable to a leader.
rbairos1 1 year ago
@rbairos1 how? data quite literally saved the entire enterprise dozens of times. in measure of a man he even busts out a plaque with all of starfleet's highest honors. which insights would he really be lacking?
terrasweet 1 year ago 2
@terrasweet The show writers makes sure to hilight the fact he lacks emotions, and is often perplexed by the behaviour of other humanoids. A skill other captains would take for granted, and use to their advantage when trying to internally model the intentions/behaviour of other humanoids.
rbairos1 1 year ago
@rbairos1 well the captain isn't the only person aboard a vessel who can size up opponents via the view screen. as for guessing moves/intentions of the enemy, data models those all the time; he's usually the first to make hypotheses in the show, and as picard often says, his hypotheses are rarely wrong.
terrasweet 1 year ago
@terrasweet Ultimately we're discussing a fictional character, but the writers do often make sure to write him ultimately puzzled by things like humour, so again, hes lacking some basic insights other captains would take for granted. That and the fact that hes the only one of his kind, its right to be skeptical.
rbairos1 1 year ago
Why is the first officer doing all this stuff? He's doing the jobs of everyonebut the helmsman.
aperson22222 1 year ago
I like how Data's gaze, complete with anger, is extended slightly more so than it would have been otherwise had he not learned those human emotions, at 03:50.
brianwesley28 1 year ago
This is the second of three times Data owns Sela. The third if with Spock on Romulus, and the first was the time they tried to brainwash Geordi, it was her order. So basically if your Romulan stay the hell away from Data.
mushroomshrub 1 year ago 3
"I understand your concerns. Request denied." Owned that white nigger.
mordanai 1 year ago 2
"highlight any tachyon signatures which show subspace inertial displacement"
antmlova1 1 year ago
All Federation ships proced at maximum warp to Gamma Eridon. Not so hot girls there, we hear.
All stop. There has to be a latent hot one around here, somewhere, who is a virgin, yet not a prude. Maybe even a Virgin and a virgin, yet not a prude? Screw going to Gamma Eridon.
brianwesley28 1 year ago
I've been searching for the daughter of the Devil himself
I've been searching for an angel in white
I've been waiting for a woman who's a little of both
And I can feel her but she's nowhere in sight
brianwesley28 1 year ago
@brianwesley28
Humans are not so much different than Data is. As an analogy for sexual attraction, we all have our own programming sequences in our DNA, as well as different astrological influences. Those things are kind of like computer programs and code. I'm programmed like a supercomputer to like extremely hot girls...extremely hot and extremely inexperienced girls. It's just Basic.
brianwesley28 1 year ago
Data is the best!
antmlova1 1 year ago
getting tears in my eyes from this! Data's the best!
TheMacciz 1 year ago
@TheMacciz I know how you feel as silly as it is. I FULLY understand!
CmdrTobs 1 year ago
The fact that they never promoted Data to full commander during the series indicates that Starfleet was a more intolerant and close-minded institution than its members choose to believe.
Borastheantichrist 1 year ago 15
@Borastheantichrist Unfortunately, yeah... but at least he got promoted in one of the comics. :) That's at least an improvement...
SoulReaperRukia 1 year ago 12
Are you referring to the comic that gave the backstory to the movie from 2009? It was cool seeing him as captain. If there is another comic with Data getting a promotion, I would like to know about it.
I did like Chain of Command though since Data got to wear command red for a while.
Borastheantichrist 1 year ago
@SoulReaperRukia Yeah, but it took him dying to make captain!
williamskidfears 1 year ago
@SoulReaperRukia well I think the reason why Data was never promoted to full commander because he's next in line to be first officer after Riker. Since Picard was never promoted to Admiral and Riker turned down his own command to remain the first officer, Data couldn't really move up in rank.
thiacanadian 1 year ago
@Borastheantichrist Well it's not like they promoted anyone else in the series (TNG). All started with the same rank they ended with, except for Wesley and Troi (bridge officer). Okay, and Worf too, but that was only after the movie.
JackMcPhee 1 year ago
@JackMcPhee
Worf started as a Lieutenant Junior Grade and received promotion to Lieutenant around season 3 and then to Lt. Commander in Generations.
Geordi went from Lieutenant Junior Grade to Lieutenant to Lt. Commander during the series
Borastheantichrist 1 year ago
@Borastheantichrist no it shows the makers of the series were more intolerant than starfleet ever could be.
intermender 1 year ago
@Borastheantichrist While I would of loved to see Data to be promoted during the series, just because he wasn't doesn't mean that Starfleet is close-minded. There were many other members of the crew who were never promoted during the series but may have been promoted at a later date. The same could be said of Data. They may never make him captain of the Enterprise, but his giving him his own ship, definitely a possibility.
gokuo64 1 year ago
@gokuo64 Yeah, but that series had such a severe case of political correctness that its panties were always in a bind. Virtually every admiral was a chick and Deanna and Beverly were promoted, even though they weren't originally command officers. STTNG just had to show how "enlightened" it was. Even Worf got promoted, even though Data, who had served AT LEAST as well, was in the service longer.
sickphil71 1 year ago
@Borastheantichrist In the future Data is the captain of the enterprise.
ScardTurtl 1 year ago
@ScardTurtl
Before or after he was blown up in Nemesis?
Hate that movie :)
mortensjoegren 1 year ago
@Borastheantichrist
voyager (ack!) explores that issue with the doctor
stubert311 1 year ago
@Borastheantichrist He got a posthumous two rank promotion after he "died" in the last movie, although I'm not sure if that's cannon or not.
kmcquiggin1 1 year ago
@kmcquiggin1 No, he was already commander in Nemesis, he was actually going to be Picard's new First Officer after Riker left.
JasonvonEvil83 1 year ago
@Borastheantichrist I agree. He should've been promoted a long time ago.
Feathers317 1 year ago
@Borastheantichrist No it doesn't. You can't really mess too much with with the main cast. That's like saying Starfleet is racist because Geordi was still chief engineer on the Enterprise after twenty years.
IronHawk 1 year ago
@Borastheantichrist maybe true even in the 24 Century their are preducie's but people or crew members still get transferred. Riker turn down Command mabe Picard could of ask for an early retirement. just a thought. ( its a t.v. show ) but fun to think about
HarPlayer 1 year ago
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@Borastheantichrist Or, maybe they were as sick of Brent Spiner as I was, and hoping he'd die.
williamskidfears 11 months ago
@Borastheantichrist By that same token, that can be considered why Harry Kim remained an ensign for 7 years on voyager. I prefer to think that data, like Riker, turned down promotion opportunities (off screen) in order to stay on the Enterprise (and the show), and wait for the chance for promotion while remaining onboard. Which is what happens as he becomes Picards first officer in nemesis and eventually Captain in the comic.
curzon176 11 months ago
@Borastheantichrist He was temporarily promoted in a few episodes. "Gambit" comes to mind.
NecessaryTruths 11 months ago 2
@NecessaryTruths That was just an acting role though as the captain and first officer were gone at the time. He was still wearing the Lt. Commander insignia, unlike Riker who wore the captain's insignia in Best of Both Worlds Part II.
Borastheantichrist 11 months ago
@pfiberoptik Q fucks with everybody who wears a starfleet commander uniform. First Picard, then Riker, then Sisko, then Janeway. I'd be bored as shit to if I had the boundless and eternal powers of a God, but no one to worship me and pray in my name.
beaugar22 1 year ago
@feralbigdog yup. That's the only reason why he was so pissy. The whole android drama was just a disguise for him to circumvent Data's authority.
beaugar22 1 year ago
With the host of episodes where the captain and crew get all fucked up with some alien mind control or parasites and he has to bail their shit out, I think Data should have assumed command of the Enterprise on the first episode.
At least Q wasn't always fucking with him like Picard.
pfiberoptik 1 year ago
Data lays down so much ownage in this episode.
kagetoh 1 year ago 8
@jpmoney184 I'm just saying. Dr. Crusher outranks Data. If the writers wanted to outline a proper chain of command. Data, as second officer, should outrank both Crusher and Troi, but he never did.
beaugar22 1 year ago
data showed anger when he threatened to relieve mr. hobson of his duties. he should have kicked his arse.
jamiirali1 1 year ago
I miss TNG and the great performances from Mr Stewart and Mr Spiner**==
linebackertwo 1 year ago 3
I never understood why Data was 3rd officer of the enterprise. He is capable yes. However,Dr. Crusher outranks him, and Councelor Troi was his same rank until she was promoted to Full Commander. Watching this I can see why. In Hobson's defence, I don't think its fair to force a Lieutenant Commander to work under another Lieutenant Commander. The Admiral must have been itching for a testosterone match. Or in Data's case synthetitosterone.
beaugar22 1 year ago
@beaugar22 I think it has to do with qualifications. As I understand it, Data is the third in line thats qualified to command. Troi did take command be default in "Disaster" and didn't know what was going on. Similar to how commanders in the USN's carrier wings don't have operational control over the ship, the XO of the ship does, and how ship's chaplains are officers, but don't perform command duties on the ship. Both are officers, just not command level.
jpmoney384 1 year ago
In the military today an officer of one rank can have a subordinate of the same rank. Usually, it's a matter of seniority, but sometimes it's a matter of specialized training.
Crusher and Troi weren't command officers, their ranks indicated greater training/experience within their fields and therefore they wouldn't ordinarily be put into a situation requiring Command style training and experience.
NecessaryTruths 1 year ago
In my opinion, I don't think Hobbson felt to keen on the idea of serving under a peer (same rank) I think he uses Data's artificial intelligence as a pretext to serve under a full Commander or Captain, as opposed to a Lieutenant Commander wearing an operations uniform. I would have felt slighted too.
beaugar22 1 year ago
it seems to me that hobson was just mad that HE didnt get to command the ship
feralbigdog 1 year ago
In the Star Trek Online Era, Data is the commander of the Enterprise-E.
Guess he had the stuff.
CrystalBearer20 2 years ago 3
I would love to see a Klingon counselor :P
Chillidan24 2 years ago 6
Data is enormously sexy in command. I love when he barks "Do it!" and "Fire!". Emotion? or just a programmed variance taking into consideration an increased auditory command can create a more pronouced point for a desired reaction? Trek & Data rule.
Thanks for sharing this.
MetalKittyOTF 2 years ago 41
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superrc 1 year ago
@MetalKittyOTF Or, maybe Data was suppressing an anomalous urge to hang his foot up Hopson's ass.
williamskidfears 1 year ago
@MetalKittyOTF Agreed. Data is soo teh sexy in a position of authority :D
primasylph 1 year ago
@primasylph Remember....he is fully funtional...in multiple techniques....rofl
warbird1786 1 year ago
Thanks for posting. I just love that Data gets to be in command. :D Plus seeing Sela is bonus. :D
orientcelts 2 years ago 3
Pure quality. This is what Star Trek is about. You'll find a similar attempt at "insubordination" or challenge to the chain of command in the "Star Trek" 2009 abomination. It failed to make an impact. Just like the movie. Unless you consider the impact of the Big Explosions(TM). There were plenty of those. Sadly, that's about all there was.
bellerophon602 2 years ago 7
@bellerophon602 oh no they also had Chris Pine in his underwear and Quinto making out with the hot chick and some kid going insane in his stepfather's car! Those things were always missing from the Star Trek movies ya know. ***huge load of sarcasm***
sondano 2 years ago
Possibly the best scene of TNG.
42underscore 2 years ago 4
The only reason I like this ep is because of theses scene right here. Dates taking command is the most priceless jewel in the ST:TNG universe. That crap-head needed to be put in his place so bad!! >:|
Thanks for putting these up, SRU. :)
mtrekdata42 2 years ago 24
@mtrekdata42 who? picard and riker are both cool
buggyboo81 1 year ago
@buggyboo81 LOL, oh no, I meant the fing-ding "first officer" on Data's ship. XD
mtrekdata42 1 year ago
Not sure if someone mentioned this but... Hobson's elbow is on the terminal.. Wouldn't he idk accidently overload the secondary gyrodyne propulsion matrix or something.. I mean its a big elbow.. Or do terminals have a keypad lock like phones do ? =P
ussanzac 2 years ago 4
It seems as if the elbow itself is leaning on an intersection between two panels.
BTW: we obviously suggest here that a certain impulse and pressure are the activating forces with those terminals like the touch-screens we know from our mobile phones. What if these terminals are activated by finger-pressure only ? (i.e.: focussed/local pressure-surge plus electric field of the skin)
In that case, an