@Patrickf1916 - Not so sure the people of Ireland are that thankful to the head of the world's largest paedophile ring and the abuse which he brought upon their children. As for the Prods...well, the Provies give it their best shot, but came up well short! The romantic notion of nationalist Ireland is now but a pipe dream. God Save the Queen...and may we be thankful to live under her freedoms & democracy, and not part of the economic & social basket case that is the Republic of Ireland. :)
Say what you like about IRA violence but there was never a battle in which republicans were involved in that resulted in tens of thousands being killed. Pity the Brits or the Free Staters cannot say that in reference to their own military records.
Your right, the IRA done their fightin hiding behind ditches, and leaving bombs. War is different than a terrorist campaign, how can you compare the two?
@loyalprd "the IRA done their fightin hiding behind ditches, and leaving bombs" Did the Brits not fight in trenches in WWI? What's the difference between a trench and a ditch? Did the Brits not leave bombs at enemy targets in WWII? I'm the self righteous scumbag? Coming from a UVF supporter! There is a difference between war and terrorism. The IRA went for military targets. The Brits and UVF didn't. OK the IRA killed too many innocents but are you telling me the Brits and UVF didn't?
WELL THE BRITS DIDNT REALLY CHOOSE THERE TARGETS LIKE DID THEY WHEN THEY MURDERED BRIAN STEWARD IN TURF LODGE 13 YRS OLD JULIE ANN LIVINGSTONE 13 AND MANY MANY OTHER KIDS
The Irish seem to very proud of such attitudes to the point of blowing up a bunch of veteran pensioners back in the 80's. It just makes me sick.
I am not Irish or British. I am an American from Eastern Europe. I don't have any tie to the conflict but the more I listen to such songs, the more favorable I am to the Unionists.
@oz1641 seeing through propanganda is one thing, but picking a side in a fight that he has no real connection to is another. The IRA did kill many civilians but so did the loyalist paramilitaries. Loyalists actually started killing and intimidating innocent people in the mid 60s before the PIRA had even formed. If violence disturbs him so much he shouldnt really be picking sides at all
What is so morally shocking is that there was no reason to kill the pensioners. I can understand the intimidation factor of killing a politician or activist. The pensioners weren't leading a political struggle, they weren't smuggling arms. They were just proud of their service and were murdered for it. I can understand clandestine warfare, I cannot understand why the IRA would choose to do such a thing for any reason other than sadism and hatred of veterans.
@lipovan87 your right the enniskillen bombing was horrific and morally objectionable regardless of your political affiliation It was condemned by everybody even the vast majoirty of IRA leaders and hardline republicans. What im finding hard to understand is why you would side with one group of murderers just because you found a paritcular act by the other to be morally shocking. Did you not find the ballymurphy massacre, bloody sunday, the dublin and monaghan bombings 1974 etc morally shocking?
@thecraighi While the loss of life in the confusion of 1920 was terrible, it was not a deliberate plan to kill pensioners. It was a confused reaction by panicky personnel who thought they were about to be attacked. You are correct that the Dublin & Moaghen bombings were acts of evil. My view is not only based on NI but also the Balkans. The Unionists condemned to actions of the Croats while the IRA praised them. Given the evils they did (ask the Canadians), I find the Unionists more humane.
@lipovan87 i ment bloody sunday 1972 not 1920, but the fact that their have been numerous occassions that the british army slaughtered civilians in my country speaks volumes. The british army/government are probably guilty of more acts of inhumanity than the loyalist groups and the ira/inla put together.
@lipovan87 Also you say that you find the Unionists more humane, because the IRA targetted civilians (pensioners in the case of the remembrance day bombings) but the loyalist paramilitaries targetted civilians almost entirely. Starting with UVF in the 60s who killed civilians before the Provos had formed right up the the LVF in the late 90s and early 2000s who abducted, tortured, set on fire and killed catholics/irish people. They shot women, killed community workers and set fire to churches
@lipovan87 You say Unionists were more humane? They haboured scum like michae stone,billy wright ,johnny adair, not to mention the links with KKK members, combat 18 and othe hategroups? I understand condemnation of the IRA but you have to understand the Provos are a product of violence.
Probably proportionately less than have been killed than would have been had the tyrants they were fighting won. Also probably proportionately less than the internecine warfare among the Irish factions each trying to resurrect the power of the High King. Peace is not won by singing songs and disparaging the brave, it is won by calmly trying to live and fighting sadistic murderers who would prevent it.
These anti war songs are usually sung by republican sympathisers who have their hands soaked in the blood of the Northern Irish people protestant and catholic alike. The singer of this song whoever he is wouldnt be fit to lace the boots of the heroes of our armed forces.
as much as i disagree with the sentiments put across in this trashy song,it is ciarans right to sing it & anything else he so chooses,a right that was won in the blood of those who stood up to the kaiser & his huns,hitler & his nazis & in later years facist republicans on the streets of our province,so sing on ciaran safe in the knowledge that your fundamental rights will be upheld by those noble & gallant men who choose to serve queen & country.
Northern Ireland is Not a Province... 'Ulster' Is a Province! "The Kaiser and the Huns"..... Which Huns would those be.... The 'German Huns' or those in Buckingham Palace.... oh indeed Cousin Willie! [Wilhelm11] the Dysfunctional first cousin of King George V of the house hold of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha [later called The House of Windsor!] ......funny people Germans.....
@waynefd what trash...oh that trash about protectin our fundamental rights mate....your right cos the iraqi oil is a fundamental right of mines....and dont be fool WW1 was just as much an imperialistic war are afgan, iraq, palastine, ireland, mexico, cube...i can add a whole lot more to that list if you want....wars arent fought for fundamental or human rights, their fought for land and resources...open your eyes amigo you might learn something
Quote....."Betray your Country serve your Class don't sign up for War my friend!." .....[John McClean Lecturing to a gathering of workers during...... 'Anti Conscription' Rally.... 1914 Glasgow
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in the end there will only be ulster an yes f**k the three counties in the republic yous can have them as the republic goes to waste! no matter what you are we are ulstermen an the world has no better not England not R ireland nor scotland nor usa............FOR GOD AND ULSTER!!
Great song !!!! [" A Bayonot now thats a Weapon with a working man on either end!!! Betray your country serve your class don't sing up for war my friend!!!" ....John Mac Lean, Glasgow 1916.... one of "The Red Clydesiders"]
@Patrickf1916 - Not so sure the people of Ireland are that thankful to the head of the world's largest paedophile ring and the abuse which he brought upon their children. As for the Prods...well, the Provies give it their best shot, but came up well short! The romantic notion of nationalist Ireland is now but a pipe dream. God Save the Queen...and may we be thankful to live under her freedoms & democracy, and not part of the economic & social basket case that is the Republic of Ireland. :)
ArdensSedVirens 3 months ago
for pope and ireland ya prod cunts
Patrickf1916 3 months ago 2
1st world war was the greatest pointless waste of life ever unleashed upon mankind. It spawned hitler and gave us the disaster of the 20th century.
RebelofIreland 4 months ago
Love Ciaran
TheMrseringobragh 5 months ago
1 million British Empire troops died to stop Germany from taking over Europe and establishing a Wilhelmine dictatorship. Mission accomplshed.
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Lacedaemonia 5 months ago
How many thousand did the IRA kill?? Self rightious scumbag
loyalprd 6 months ago 2
@loyalprd How many millions did the fucking brits murder and are still murdering?
cathbhar1 5 months ago
Say what you like about IRA violence but there was never a battle in which republicans were involved in that resulted in tens of thousands being killed. Pity the Brits or the Free Staters cannot say that in reference to their own military records.
Bepold 6 months ago
@Bepold
Your right, the IRA done their fightin hiding behind ditches, and leaving bombs. War is different than a terrorist campaign, how can you compare the two?
loyalprd 5 months ago
@loyalprd "the IRA done their fightin hiding behind ditches, and leaving bombs" Did the Brits not fight in trenches in WWI? What's the difference between a trench and a ditch? Did the Brits not leave bombs at enemy targets in WWII? I'm the self righteous scumbag? Coming from a UVF supporter! There is a difference between war and terrorism. The IRA went for military targets. The Brits and UVF didn't. OK the IRA killed too many innocents but are you telling me the Brits and UVF didn't?
Bepold 5 months ago
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TheSurrealityTest 8 months ago
@TheSurrealityTest
If you're gonna be a fascist at least get your slurs right. It's "fenian" you cunt.
WhimsicalQuandary 8 months ago
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TheSurrealityTest 8 months ago
@TheSurrealityTest learn to spell u dirty manky orange bastard tiocfaidh ar la
20ross11 6 months ago
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Fenian bastards, only supporters are in America. FOR GOD AND ULSTER, BOSTON IS A SHIT HOLE.
HaremKnight 1 year ago
@HaremKnight You're a fool. Stay out of our politics you Yankie Unionist scumbag
Redstar226 10 months ago
WELL THE BRITS DIDNT REALLY CHOOSE THERE TARGETS LIKE DID THEY WHEN THEY MURDERED BRIAN STEWARD IN TURF LODGE 13 YRS OLD JULIE ANN LIVINGSTONE 13 AND MANY MANY OTHER KIDS
kevinc1916 1 year ago
The Irish seem to very proud of such attitudes to the point of blowing up a bunch of veteran pensioners back in the 80's. It just makes me sick.
I am not Irish or British. I am an American from Eastern Europe. I don't have any tie to the conflict but the more I listen to such songs, the more favorable I am to the Unionists.
lipovan87 1 year ago
@lipovan87
fuck ye then. you dont matter
Cokane1888 1 year ago
@lipovan87 good man...glad to see people can see through this putrid terrorist propaganda!
oz1641 1 year ago
@oz1641 seeing through propanganda is one thing, but picking a side in a fight that he has no real connection to is another. The IRA did kill many civilians but so did the loyalist paramilitaries. Loyalists actually started killing and intimidating innocent people in the mid 60s before the PIRA had even formed. If violence disturbs him so much he shouldnt really be picking sides at all
thecraighi 1 year ago
@thecraighi
What is so morally shocking is that there was no reason to kill the pensioners. I can understand the intimidation factor of killing a politician or activist. The pensioners weren't leading a political struggle, they weren't smuggling arms. They were just proud of their service and were murdered for it. I can understand clandestine warfare, I cannot understand why the IRA would choose to do such a thing for any reason other than sadism and hatred of veterans.
lipovan87 1 year ago
@lipovan87 your right the enniskillen bombing was horrific and morally objectionable regardless of your political affiliation It was condemned by everybody even the vast majoirty of IRA leaders and hardline republicans. What im finding hard to understand is why you would side with one group of murderers just because you found a paritcular act by the other to be morally shocking. Did you not find the ballymurphy massacre, bloody sunday, the dublin and monaghan bombings 1974 etc morally shocking?
thecraighi 1 year ago
@thecraighi While the loss of life in the confusion of 1920 was terrible, it was not a deliberate plan to kill pensioners. It was a confused reaction by panicky personnel who thought they were about to be attacked. You are correct that the Dublin & Moaghen bombings were acts of evil. My view is not only based on NI but also the Balkans. The Unionists condemned to actions of the Croats while the IRA praised them. Given the evils they did (ask the Canadians), I find the Unionists more humane.
lipovan87 1 year ago
@lipovan87 i ment bloody sunday 1972 not 1920, but the fact that their have been numerous occassions that the british army slaughtered civilians in my country speaks volumes. The british army/government are probably guilty of more acts of inhumanity than the loyalist groups and the ira/inla put together.
thecraighi 1 year ago
@lipovan87 Also you say that you find the Unionists more humane, because the IRA targetted civilians (pensioners in the case of the remembrance day bombings) but the loyalist paramilitaries targetted civilians almost entirely. Starting with UVF in the 60s who killed civilians before the Provos had formed right up the the LVF in the late 90s and early 2000s who abducted, tortured, set on fire and killed catholics/irish people. They shot women, killed community workers and set fire to churches
thecraighi 1 year ago
@lipovan87 You say Unionists were more humane? They haboured scum like michae stone,billy wright ,johnny adair, not to mention the links with KKK members, combat 18 and othe hategroups? I understand condemnation of the IRA but you have to understand the Provos are a product of violence.
thecraighi 1 year ago 2
@lipovan87 i wonder how many innocent people britain and america have killed through the years in the name of WAR
kilwinninglad08 1 year ago
@kilwinninglad08
Probably proportionately less than have been killed than would have been had the tyrants they were fighting won. Also probably proportionately less than the internecine warfare among the Irish factions each trying to resurrect the power of the High King. Peace is not won by singing songs and disparaging the brave, it is won by calmly trying to live and fighting sadistic murderers who would prevent it.
lipovan87 1 year ago
These anti war songs are usually sung by republican sympathisers who have their hands soaked in the blood of the Northern Irish people protestant and catholic alike. The singer of this song whoever he is wouldnt be fit to lace the boots of the heroes of our armed forces.
WARISHELL09 1 year ago
UP THE RA'
calBHA1 1 year ago
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rayjt17 1 year ago
YOU NEVER OPEN A HISTORY BOOK
PacificPredator10 1 year ago
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rayjt17 1 year ago
as much as i disagree with the sentiments put across in this trashy song,it is ciarans right to sing it & anything else he so chooses,a right that was won in the blood of those who stood up to the kaiser & his huns,hitler & his nazis & in later years facist republicans on the streets of our province,so sing on ciaran safe in the knowledge that your fundamental rights will be upheld by those noble & gallant men who choose to serve queen & country.
waynefd 1 year ago
Northern Ireland is Not a Province... 'Ulster' Is a Province! "The Kaiser and the Huns"..... Which Huns would those be.... The 'German Huns' or those in Buckingham Palace.... oh indeed Cousin Willie! [Wilhelm11] the Dysfunctional first cousin of King George V of the house hold of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha [later called The House of Windsor!] ......funny people Germans.....
malachy1847 1 year ago
@waynefd what trash...oh that trash about protectin our fundamental rights mate....your right cos the iraqi oil is a fundamental right of mines....and dont be fool WW1 was just as much an imperialistic war are afgan, iraq, palastine, ireland, mexico, cube...i can add a whole lot more to that list if you want....wars arent fought for fundamental or human rights, their fought for land and resources...open your eyes amigo you might learn something
DDAWGtheredrevo 1 year ago
Can't support the overall sentiment, but good to see acknowledgment of bravery in a real war.
chowmobe 2 years ago
Quote....."Betray your Country serve your Class don't sign up for War my friend!." .....[John McClean Lecturing to a gathering of workers during...... 'Anti Conscription' Rally.... 1914 Glasgow
malachy1847 1 year ago
And that is Newry, Down, IRELAND
sainglain 2 years ago
Forkhill is NOT in Co. Down. - Forkhill is in South Armagh. - Most of Newry town is in South Down but the west part of Newry is in SOUTH ARMAGH
sainglain 2 years ago
This song is worded so well.
This man knows his stuff!
IGotDot 2 years ago
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in the end there will only be ulster an yes f**k the three counties in the republic yous can have them as the republic goes to waste! no matter what you are we are ulstermen an the world has no better not England not R ireland nor scotland nor usa............FOR GOD AND ULSTER!!
daleislash 2 years ago
Does anyone know if he's Northern Irish, if he supports the thought of a united Ireland or if he's impartial?
ragnatoad 2 years ago
listen to a few of his songs a chara....
specialed05 2 years ago 3
He's from Forkhill, Co. Down in the north of Ireland, and he supports a 32 county Socialist republic.
MrZonko 2 years ago 2
I dnt think he would appreciate the 'northern' irish comment
irishrebel92 2 years ago
What comment?
It was a question.
ragnatoad 2 years ago
hes an Irish singer frm west belfast an is very much in favour of a united ireland
irishrebel92 2 years ago 4
@irishrebel92 he an irish singer from SOUTH ARMAGH actually
SplashboxRocker 1 year ago
absolutely brilliant. just stumbled onto ciaran`s tunes and im hooked.
weephil 2 years ago 7
See Ciaran at
ROCK AGAINST LISBON
The Cobblestone, Smithfield, Baile Átha Cliath
26th September, 8 p.m
Táile €3
Yukina, The Group, Barra and the lads, DJ Shifty and our special guest CIARAN MURPHY
This is a non party political event
Spread the word. Bí ann
larrycake1981 2 years ago
if he has any cd on sale how would i get 1 live in west belfast no1 seems to have them
kevinc1916 2 years ago 2
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bullshit from another bitter paddy
peter1886 2 years ago
iontach maith
emmetkah06 2 years ago
class fucking magic how did u think this one up
kevinc1916 2 years ago
F'ing brilliant.
GaryCheevers 2 years ago
if you have the song airstrip handy it wud be appretiated if you cud upload it
thanks
fiacre 2 years ago
listened to him in mcgraths on saturday night, he was brilliant
beanz443 2 years ago
Nice work.
blunt1984 2 years ago
Great song !!!! [" A Bayonot now thats a Weapon with a working man on either end!!! Betray your country serve your class don't sing up for war my friend!!!" ....John Mac Lean, Glasgow 1916.... one of "The Red Clydesiders"]
malachy1847 2 years ago
great lyrics
uglybadger1 2 years ago
The man is a bloody genius.
Excellent songs.
DubRepublicanMedia 2 years ago 3
ciaran murphy is awesome i love his songs specially "the day they hung saddam"....
furiousfahreza 3 years ago 2
Any lyrics to be found on the net?
sobr21azzaro 3 years ago
buy this mans CD ,support his music or itll stop and we'll have lost a much needed voice .
kbcmighty 3 years ago
where can i buy this cd ive tried a few pklaces ....(not the internet)
tanx
acjc666 3 years ago
Ciaran is going somewhere...
I've been a big fan from I heard "the day they hung Saddam"
xeinkolt 3 years ago 2
hope you've got his cd.
96cambridge 3 years ago
i like how this ciaran sings, someones been listening to bob.
billsurlatete 3 years ago 4
IMO Sounds nothing like Geldof :)
villagaeilgeoir 3 years ago