To Metsdudenj, if you knew track history,you would that the USA sent a very young team that year. Also, in the Olympics the USA has never been less than silver!
i would like to know what is the comment when we see Kratochvilova just overtaking the russian girl pinigina. Thanks for the run. Kratochvilova is impressive !
@jakubpetricek la desesperacion del ultimo relevo de las chicas de la ex-rda-en los metros finales era impresionante si la carrera duraba 10 metros mar krachdotilova la alcanzaba-MARITA KOCH-UN GENIO -ESPECTUCULAR COMO TODA SU CARRERA DEPORTIVA-DE NUEVE-9-AÑOS
they are doped up now...they are just a bit more clever at it. science has moved on. but who is really bothered. we want to see athletes run fast, throw long and jump big
I always loved watching Evelyn Ashford sprinting. She always looked natural and feminine. An awesome talent, who never really realised her full potential because of continuous injury problems. A fit Ashford in 1983 could have won the 100m/200m at the World champonships.
yes you are very correct there my mistake but it has to be noted that Marita Koch was only running the 100m as an after thought as she was more suited over the longer distances at 200m & 400m. remember as well that Marita Koch was the East Germans second string at the 100m with Gohr the first string.
Obviously no North Americans have ever been on performance enhancers have they?
Jones, Hunter, Johnson, Graham, Lewis, Pettigrew, Joyners(?), Gatlin, Greene, Montgomery, Harrison(s). The list is endless. Who knows what they were up to before 1990's.
The last known to be fully clean athlete who won 100m for US - Jim Hines before I was born.
The east germans really put performance enhancement on the map!!! They truly understood the science of drug taking, the best at it. Then came the American's who became are sloppy and greedy. I personally have no problem with people taking drugs to help the performance. Entertain me B*tches!!!!
the GDR women were all on performance enhancers". I'd add that the fact is all US athletes were doped as well in order to be competitive against the Eastern Block, and that includes Evelyn Ashford. The Cold War was at its most. Don't be that naive and chauvinist,wegersfour. Testing was not implemented yet. The big difference is since the East German Comunist government fell, the secret info turned into public.
I agree with your perspective. It is very objective. People point fingers at the Socialist athletes from the 1970s and 1980s and choose to remain oblivious to how much more viable it was for the Western countries to obtain non-detectable performance-enhancing substances.
Also, these same people turn away and pretend like everything was fine when the Australian and US swimmers were setting astonishing records in Beijing. It was all publicity and endorsements for them and no criticisms.
si se habia retirado por que a partir de 1989 volveria a ser la de siempre la 20 del mundo (100) y 20 en (200) hizo bien marita en no ir a SEUL la iban a destruir como hicieron con ben jobson-
Yeah it was a good run. It would have been nicer if Koch would have taken the anchor. That would have been a great scrap between her and kratochvilova.
My god. Kratochvilova run an incredible leg. Good stategy by the east germans putting Koch on the tird leg. She won it for the team. But my god Kratochvilova was remarkable.
En 1989 Florence Griffitth ya estaba retirada, en 1988 ni la misma Marita Koch podría haber hecho mucho contra ella. En cualquier caso no sé quién de las dos se drogó más. Hay reveladores documentos de la Stasi desclasificados después de la caía del muro de Berlín con detalles de las cantidades de esteroides tomadas por sus atletas, entre ellas la propia Koch.
@gorhman SI MARITA SE HUBIERA DROGADO EN LO 14 RECORDS MUDIALES DE LOGRO-EN TRE 1978 Y 1095 -QUE RATO ESTARIA MUERTA-EN CAMBIO FLO-FLO SE TOMO TODO EN 1988-LUEGO SE BORRO Y MIRA COMO TERMINO
@gorhman PERO SI MARITA SE HUBIERA DROGADO EN LOS 14 RECODRS MUNDIALES AL AIRE LIBRE QUE LOGRO A LO LARGO DE -9-NUEVE AÑOS-ENTRE 1978 Y 1985-QUE RATO SE HUBIERA FALLECIDO-EN CAMBIO FLO FLO SE TOMO TODO EN 1988 Y SE RETIRO Y MIRA COMO TERMINO-EL UNICO GUIL EN 1988 FUE BEN JONBSNO-
What an amazing third leg by Marita Koch but Kratochviloba almost chases the east Germans.The comentator is wrong, the first leg is not Sabine Bush who in fact runs the 2nd leg. The first runner for East Germany is Gesine Walther. Thanks for posting all these awesome vodeos from Helsinki 1983 Athetle5399.
To Metsdudenj, if you knew track history,you would that the USA sent a very young team that year. Also, in the Olympics the USA has never been less than silver!
1980fhhs 2 months ago
just checked kerstin walter ran 1st leg here. gesine walter ran t 1st leg in their WR following year! sorry 2 bore u.
markguest36 5 months ago
the first east german runner was kerstin walter , marita koch saved the day!
markguest36 5 months ago
good 2 see americans so well down!
markguest36 6 months ago
eastern europe were on the juice then
skankingjoe 7 months ago
@metsdudenj Yes, they were, and how miractulously there were so invinsible a year later a the LA games !
karrtt1234 1 year ago
I cant believe how weak the US team was
metsdudenj 1 year ago
i would like to know what is the comment when we see Kratochvilova just overtaking the russian girl pinigina. Thanks for the run. Kratochvilova is impressive !
BOOMSLANG85 1 year ago
47,7 by kratochvilova in the last leg is JUST INCREDIBLE
diegoribasx 1 year ago
Jarmil Kratochvíl - our national hero! (S)he was great
jakubpetricek 2 years ago
@jakubpetricek Your "National Hero" was not only a fraudulent athlete, but probably secretly a man.
beebeechitown 1 year ago
@beebeechitown (S)he´s a sexy woman, what are you talking about:-) ?
jakubpetricek 1 year ago
@jakubpetricek la desesperacion del ultimo relevo de las chicas de la ex-rda-en los metros finales era impresionante si la carrera duraba 10 metros mar krachdotilova la alcanzaba-MARITA KOCH-UN GENIO -ESPECTUCULAR COMO TODA SU CARRERA DEPORTIVA-DE NUEVE-9-AÑOS
camberra1985 1 year ago
GDR were clever not to announce Koch until the final. Otherwise they would have suffered the wrath of Kratochvilova. Great team stratedgy
Branded1978 2 years ago 3
drugs drugs drugs
How the world was cheated
bluewhale18 2 years ago
@bluewhale18 DRUGS.DURGS.DURGS.1988-FLORENCE GRIFFITT JOINER-DRUGS.DRUGS.-1988-FLORENCE GRIFFIT JOINER-DRUGS.DRUGS.
camberra1985 1 year ago
@camberra1985 You are selectively pathetic.
beebeechitown 1 year ago
Kratochvilova is a MAN! almost like Miss Trunchball in Matilda
Aarontlondon 2 years ago
Maria Mutola of Mozambique is DEFINATELY a man!!!!
aquamarineeyes 2 years ago
I can't believe athletics world championships used to fill stadiums! Things have changed so much since then.
Aarontlondon 2 years ago 3
@Aarontlondon
It is worth bearing in mind that this is Helsinki & Athletics is probably more popular in Finland than in any other country.
trickygoose2 1 year ago
Yeah, garyoak 300, chinese team made a great effort in this race... and americans- as always- are pure as angels.
amupala 2 years ago 4
東ドイツの強かった時代
MrMasahan 2 years ago
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you can tell that all the europeans and chinese at this time were totally doped. Now all the sprinters look like actual women not men.
garyoak300 2 years ago
they are doped up now...they are just a bit more clever at it. science has moved on. but who is really bothered. we want to see athletes run fast, throw long and jump big
greggles1902 3 years ago 6
It's amazing how times have changed.I didn't even realize that America was in this race until at the end.
rhoomsy 3 years ago
47.7 sec for Jim in the last leg. amazing. Doped but amazing to see.
sequiaonda78 3 years ago 2
I always loved watching Evelyn Ashford sprinting. She always looked natural and feminine. An awesome talent, who never really realised her full potential because of continuous injury problems. A fit Ashford in 1983 could have won the 100m/200m at the World champonships.
fjknm 3 years ago
should the east germans have been disqualified, the last change over was way out of the exchange area. or was there a different rule back then.
AB5309 3 years ago
Yes, Ashford did beat Gohr after the Olympics and in so doing broke the world record! (10.76)
athlete5399 3 years ago
As amazing as this relay was, the fact is/was
the GDR women were all on performance enhancers. Thank God, the USA had great
sprinters like Evelyn Ashford who could beat
runners like Gohr and Koch. She may not have
done it at these world championships, but
she did be beat Marlies Gohr at an international meet just weeks after the
L.A. Olympics.
wegersfour 3 years ago
Ashford never beat the great Marita Koch as Koch never ran 100m. Where ae you getting your information from wegersfour?
aquamarineeyes 3 years ago
ashford beat marita koch at the 1983 world championship 100 meter semi final!!!!
butler372 3 years ago
yes you are very correct there my mistake but it has to be noted that Marita Koch was only running the 100m as an after thought as she was more suited over the longer distances at 200m & 400m. remember as well that Marita Koch was the East Germans second string at the 100m with Gohr the first string.
aquamarineeyes 3 years ago
Obviously no North Americans have ever been on performance enhancers have they?
Jones, Hunter, Johnson, Graham, Lewis, Pettigrew, Joyners(?), Gatlin, Greene, Montgomery, Harrison(s). The list is endless. Who knows what they were up to before 1990's.
The last known to be fully clean athlete who won 100m for US - Jim Hines before I was born.
rc2869 3 years ago 3
The east germans really put performance enhancement on the map!!! They truly understood the science of drug taking, the best at it. Then came the American's who became are sloppy and greedy. I personally have no problem with people taking drugs to help the performance. Entertain me B*tches!!!!
butler372 3 years ago
"As amazing as this relay was, the fact is/was
the GDR women were all on performance enhancers". I'd add that the fact is all US athletes were doped as well in order to be competitive against the Eastern Block, and that includes Evelyn Ashford. The Cold War was at its most. Don't be that naive and chauvinist,wegersfour. Testing was not implemented yet. The big difference is since the East German Comunist government fell, the secret info turned into public.
SerchWagnerianBear 3 years ago
I agree with your perspective. It is very objective. People point fingers at the Socialist athletes from the 1970s and 1980s and choose to remain oblivious to how much more viable it was for the Western countries to obtain non-detectable performance-enhancing substances.
Also, these same people turn away and pretend like everything was fine when the Australian and US swimmers were setting astonishing records in Beijing. It was all publicity and endorsements for them and no criticisms.
VictoriaAbrilenAtame 2 years ago 3
si se habia retirado por que a partir de 1989 volveria a ser la de siempre la 20 del mundo (100) y 20 en (200) hizo bien marita en no ir a SEUL la iban a destruir como hicieron con ben jobson-
camberra1985 3 years ago
Yeah it was a good run. It would have been nicer if Koch would have taken the anchor. That would have been a great scrap between her and kratochvilova.
Branded1978 3 years ago
My god. Kratochvilova run an incredible leg. Good stategy by the east germans putting Koch on the tird leg. She won it for the team. But my god Kratochvilova was remarkable.
CHUNKEY70 3 years ago
que decir mas de vos marita esta todo dichoLA MEJOR LA MEJOR LA MEJOR
.me hubiera gustado verla correr EN 1989 a la drogada de flo flo haber que hacia
camberra1985 3 years ago
En 1989 Florence Griffitth ya estaba retirada, en 1988 ni la misma Marita Koch podría haber hecho mucho contra ella. En cualquier caso no sé quién de las dos se drogó más. Hay reveladores documentos de la Stasi desclasificados después de la caía del muro de Berlín con detalles de las cantidades de esteroides tomadas por sus atletas, entre ellas la propia Koch.
gorhman 3 years ago
Correcto, y ademas de Gohr, tambien Silke y Heike.
sequiaonda78 3 years ago
@gorhman SI MARITA SE HUBIERA DROGADO EN LO 14 RECORDS MUDIALES DE LOGRO-EN TRE 1978 Y 1095 -QUE RATO ESTARIA MUERTA-EN CAMBIO FLO-FLO SE TOMO TODO EN 1988-LUEGO SE BORRO Y MIRA COMO TERMINO
camberra1985 1 year ago
@gorhman PERO SI MARITA SE HUBIERA DROGADO EN LOS 14 RECODRS MUNDIALES AL AIRE LIBRE QUE LOGRO A LO LARGO DE -9-NUEVE AÑOS-ENTRE 1978 Y 1985-QUE RATO SE HUBIERA FALLECIDO-EN CAMBIO FLO FLO SE TOMO TODO EN 1988 Y SE RETIRO Y MIRA COMO TERMINO-EL UNICO GUIL EN 1988 FUE BEN JONBSNO-
camberra1985 1 year ago
Jeez koch and Kratochvilova's legs...
paulouk83 3 years ago
What an amazing third leg by Marita Koch but Kratochviloba almost chases the east Germans.The comentator is wrong, the first leg is not Sabine Bush who in fact runs the 2nd leg. The first runner for East Germany is Gesine Walther. Thanks for posting all these awesome vodeos from Helsinki 1983 Athetle5399.
gorhman 3 years ago