A lot of folk talking about Scotland's income coming from oil reserves. I am a geoscientist and our oil will run out this century. What do we do for main income then? We also do not, despite what the SNP say, have enough money for a strong army or MI5 and MI6 type organisations. Our oil is going to start looking very appealing to others as the years go by and oil gets more and more scarce. Who's to stop them taking it? Ridiculous flaws in Salmond's plan. Most people I know will be voting no.
@jmorgan91100 The oil revenue allows us a cash surplus to invest in the create of sustainable employment. We need many home schools and hospitals. Our population is being under used at present this needs changing. The UN protects Independent nations from aggression. I'm not sure who you imagine would try and sieze the oil fields, pipelines and terminals. If most Scots read the McCrone report ( available online )they'll vote YES . We live in an age where misleading facts are easily put to rest.
The english say we wont survive without them. Bull Shit, billons of pounds a year from scottish oil and gas goses to westminster, more like lets see them pay for there war without us.
The whole world is experiencing massive change in wealth,power, resourses: who ends up controlling Middle East. Build up to SinoRussia USA Nato.'trouble' Europes Unity, etc etc So Scotland issue one way or other is very small, but to say if it makes Britain as a whole less effective millitarily, in light of Iraq and Libya it can only be a good thing
England cant say Piss off and walk, there is a debt owed, security issues, and a few years negotiations to be made after the referendum- including issues such as defence - which also are central to English/Welsh national security and NOT JUST SCOTLANDS! Some say the idea of independence is a form of romanticism, but think about how 19 century Scottish determination built the United States?
Hey I know politicians (no names) and there are early discussions about limiting access through England through toll roads,where the lorry tariffs can be very high, we can make Scottish goods to europe expensive. We have geography on our side - we don't need to go North. Europe cannot set the tarriffs either. we can also tap NSO at highest point off North East coast of England. There are many more surprises going to effect how well the Scottish economy fairs post Union
In England we have geography on our side Put a £100 levy on all lorries coming across the new boarder to travel through England to go to Europe. Enough to make somethings unviable. They can do the same to ours heading north into the sea to to trade with Greenland*!
I am pro Scottish independence, but very much anti-EU/Euro. From what I understand, Salmond seems very pro-EU, which leaves me feeling divided. The Scottish people need to start making demands, not just let politicians do the talking for them.
@Midvinterblot542 Hi man, John Swinney stated they would want to stay with sterling for some time. But they would like to stay in the European Economic Area (Google Norway in Europe and read the wiki article) This does not mean full membership of the Europeon union, just that they are allowed to export freely. This is the way Norway functions. Here = watch?v=lEAwSfxu-b0 (I actually recommend watching the whole thing actually)
@Midvinterblot542 im pro union but i could be convinced someday of agreeing wiht Scotland going it alone, BUT... the problem is not with salmond he will sell us out to the EU and that will be worse than london mark my words, look what happened to ireland the EU fucked them over big time, half trade volume and trillions of debt compared to a few billion before it, yes i said trillions.
@Midvinterblot542 Independence is the start of the process not the conclusion. The referendum will only be a step forward. Having the ability to change what we want within Scotland by the the Scottish people.
@Midvinterblot542 Alex Salmond has since made it clear he believes we should have partnerships (in terms of trade and general friendship) with the EU. However, we will keep our currency and stay independent.
My only reservation is that an independent Scotland would just be more of the same.
Salmond is firmly in Brian Souter's pockets and look what effect that's had. Bus deregulation has left thousands of rural people without public transport.
I need convincing that an independent Scotland would have real laws designed to combat political corruption, I don't want to vote for independence and end up living in England-lite.
What will the SNP do to curb lobbying/bribery in Hollyrood and local councils?
@bennlonelyboy - Then Vote Mel Gibson in for the next king of Scotland, cos your response is so pathetic you bring shame to the rest of your fellow Scots
I voted SNP because i liked there ideas for Scotland,but i am not wanting the U.K to break up i like my dual nationality,The SNP hate anything English and any opinions from London is met with criticism.This is making ordinary Scots look bad.Everyone else in Britan must think we are nasty and spiteful.Shut yer tartan cakehole Salmond and get on with running the country before England boots us out the Union before we get a chance tae vote.
@YARROWS9 England boot us out no mate that will never happen and has nothing to do with hating the English, you will get your opportunity to vote for union.
@strathpipe im not backstabbing, i was born British and in a time when the world is about uniting why separate? then when i go to London i get no benefits , making our world smaller? sorry doesnt make sense.
Dont change things that are not broken we live in a great wealthy scotland not fucking North Korea you risk taking faggot.
Id take up arms to defend he union and my right to be British and i will and believe me the first person that will be in the sights of unionist defenders will be YOU.
@strathpipe and you forgot the fact faggot head, that salmond wants to piss off form the UK to sell our souls to brussels and the EU, believe me the terms and conditions for entering the EU will mean that Scotland will NOT be an independent nation but will in many ways fuel the desires of Germany and France.
Id rather trust people i have worked with for 300 years that share the same language and island that some real god damn euro crat foreigners, now who is the real backstabber? ooops its YOU.
@powervr250 'I want Scotland to be independent, not because I think we are better than any other country, but because I know we are just as good as any other country.'Independence will create a new, more modern relationship between the nations of these islands - a partnership of equals.Independence would allow Scotland to become a wealthier and fairer nation, Imagining a country that 'speaks with its own voice, stands taller in the world and takes responsibility for its own future'.
@powervr250 Scotland Can no longer be misrepresented by a westminsters lies and properganda and brainwash of a britishness that supposed to be fair and equal but underneath isnt!!! Where newspapers hack anybody they like and pay the met police enforce and assist in abusing peoples human rights as well as interfering and preventing murder equiries to be brought to justice!!! The british society and way of life is a fucking joke and its the british government who should be accounterble for it!!
@Alastairbell If you say its unfair, then why do people in England pay for NHS prescription medication but in Scotland we dont? we get more than our fair share.
And although the south UK(England) has its issues so does Scotland.
I mean look at Glasgow with all this orange marching,celtic crap, and bigot fenian / hun slurs and seperaed schools, talk about being in the stone ages , how vile, at least England has moved on from all that crap and realized religion is a farce.
@powervr250 At the end of the day religion will always be a matter of different opinions and conflict to follow! The prodestant faith clashes with the catholic faith but please do not say that england are for more superior and above that because england is dominated by the prodestant faith and have played there part in minipulating prodestant occupation in scotland and Ireland too! And still to this day of 2012 No catholic Is allowed to sit on the thrown of england because of there faith
@powervr250 Further more Lets just be aware that the church of england since henry VIII have shown lack of respect for a religion of 2000 years by picking and choicing what THEY feel they agree with and especially henry VIII at the time who was a catholic but turned his back on his religion and start the church of england in order to for him to anul his marriage not just so he could marry once more but again and again and agian
@powervr250 So yes you are right in one aspect that england no longer argue or fight about religion!!!! They just take out bits they dont like and piece together that suits them!!! Catholic and prodestants may be accounterble for the relgious conflicts but at lest we dont change the ten commandment and the holy scriptures of christ so that its suits our own selfish needs!!!
@powervr250 Scots and scotland and her religion and culture can no longer live in a outdated union for the past 300 years!! Time changes and so must countries political and constitutional pathes change as well and even tho people cannot see or except scotland and england no longer being in a union together they should not hold two countries of different ways of thinking and cultures together through fear of change!! To sperate countries with to full antomy parliments will work better as equals
@powervr250 Old mentalities must change just like with people in the fifties only knowing white people walking the streets of england and scotland! The world is constantly changing and so we must with it!
@strathpipe an d forget braveheart shite, back then the way of the world was all about invading other peoples land and shit like that, but at least its better than the fuckin Germans that killed 6 million jews, yeah man go to sell our souls to the Germans and tell the UK that gives us passport and security and that is OUR country that we were BORN into to fuck off.
Take a ""needless" risk, "gamble" the future of our and your children without good reason, i`ll make sure the sniper has ur name!
@powervr250 Go away you Bam I have never read such Pish in all my life as far as a sniper having my name I'm F'n Quaking I am. You Brainless Bigot. Scotland Wull and so will Mr Salmond you fearty.
@powervr250 Independence will give us choices not drag our young servicemen and women dragged into illegal wars like Iraq, and the option not to have nuclear weapons based on Scottish soil!! Scottish Independence will stop us being dragged into conflicts with pathetic reasons like westminsters and the us whitehouse intellegence using illegal invasion on weapons of mass destruction that never existed and was never found to start wars and kill millions on both sides for what? Oil??????
@YARROWS9 i hav tae disagree - iam sick of the way england treat us.. time for a change it will help both countries i think, sick of being the scraps of england
@TheMrmysteryguest1 The way England treat us.The national debt is 1 Trillion,Scotlands share is 100 Billion, plus we owe the British tax payer 80 Billion for Scotlands biggest company going tits up.What a good start to Independence that is.
@YARROWS9 We don't owe anyone tax for the banks going tits up. If this was the case then Scotland would be owed all the tax,plus other money London took from them and also we would be owed all money taken by London from the oil(which would be enough to pay of the full UK debt),because that is a UK resource based in Scotland. Scotland would be in a great financial state when leaving the Union. Unionists are too stubborn to see this.
Edinburgh born, and there is no way i would allow a fat twat who is only doing this for his own selfish interests not out of logic to deny me my birth right of being British and inconvenience my life to the max and create more barriers.
Where u gonna buy your military from with a non existent economy, and non existent export trade?
The world now is about breaking barriers down not creating them and i love being british id rather trust London more than Brussels
@16mes Keeping our oil money and spending it the way we want in its entirety, not being involved in illegal wars, not having have nuclear warheads based only twenty minutes away from out most populous region, not paying for a 'national' tv service that ignores us, having a greater say in the EU (and not facing the threat of being pulled out of it by little Englanders), having a more progressive parliament mirroring our own beliefs.
The case for the 'union' has still to be put forward.
@scotchprofessor You think everyone working in the government is English? Is this some sort of anti-english protest!? Any decisions made by the government are discussed by not just English, but also Scottish, Welsh and Irish people together. I honestly can't even fathom how ignorant some of you are being... If you want to be so patriotic towards being Scottish and ignorant of everybody else in this union then you better stop speaking my language.
@16mes what is your case for union? be precise and positive in your answer please not the usual "we are stronger together crap" a little more sophisticated answer is required.
@16mes You obviously did not understand, I am aware of the negative unionist reasons and the armageddon scenario that is to happen (similar to the time of devolution and wrong) what I was asking for is the positive reasons to how the country will progress in the union you may have noticed that positive message is lacking from unionists, voters will vote with their feet like the elections last may unionist parties fought on a negative campaign.I would like to hear your positive reasons not wiki
@Oder1001 Being part of the UK means for better protection, there would be benefits economically, increased global influence and providing you would want to rejoin the EU again after becoming indipendant then that would mean switching to the Euro as all new members have that as a requirement.
@16mes protection from what ? "benefits" good explain for inside and outside union.
global influence ? we have plenty ask any foreigner about Scotland he tell you we are part of England we are well recognised world wide, deciding whether we are in the Europe is not up to England alone it will concern all of Europe. I have to say your positive answer is no different from the negative reactions of unionist here I did ask you to be specific you weren't would you like to try again?
@Oder1001 I was specific, you're just refusing to understand. If you were hoping for me to write an entire essay for you on this then sadly you won't be getting on but I assure you I probably could ;)
@Oder1001 I am from Sweden thank you very much and I will not change my mind
If people are so fucking proud to be scottish then learn the language already
Other wise Scottland is just another area of England that has kilts and bagpipes
Even Wales is trying to make more people speak Welsh and they are slowly growing by number of Welsh speakers so yes I unless a country has a unique language from its neighbours no point in becoming independent
@akumie2 No I would not expect you to change your mind just curious as to why it appears you think to speak a particular language is a dominant reason for people to have or not have independence,but every one is entitled to their own idea I suppose.
@akumie2 every country in Africa from the South to Egypt has English as a first language so then we take a continent and class it a region? hmm! English is the official language in India so we should just consider India region of what ? England! I don't see any logic in what you are saying India is not a region its and independent state as are many other English speaking countries and republics to imply they are regions and not counties is just nonsense.
@akumie2 No you don`t get it there is 240 languages and dialects in India it makes sense to to have one official language and they do .. .English! walk over the border? when was your last trip to Africa? In South Africa 16 languages and all South Africans one nation the official languages all 16 of them but the language of government English they don't have 16 regions they are a country applying your philosophical logic in this situation is pure bullsh*t.
@Oder1001 Lets make it in terms even you can understand
Every group of people who speak a language gets one country meaning places like Africa, India... will be split up to over 1000 countries
If I spoke a minority language I would not want to have to change language just to be able to speak to the goverment but instead make a small country with own goverment that uses the language I speak
@akumie2 It is a FACT that a country/group of people looses loads of culture when the local language dies out like the native americans, aborigines...and therfore I dont see why Scottland should be a country when it is really no different then England
If anything give the Scottish Gaelic speakers a small country because like I said they are the true people who are proud to be Scottish
@akumie2 Same as NO ONE in my country Sweden who speaks bad Swedish (people born to foreigners) have the right to say they are proud to be Swedish because once again language=culture
@akumie2 its a fact in Scotland today that the drive for independence is not driven by language but the sense of unity ,purpose pride in the country and for it to progress.
and by your reasoning US, Australia, and New Zealand and are all extensions of England I am sure I am not the only one who disagrees with you.
@akumie2 Many countries are multilingual and individuals in these countries speak 2,3,4 and in exceptional cases ten or more languages.Language alone does not define Nationhood if it did no country would exist today. Minority people in India have to learn English to understand their government which is OK by you but minorities in other countries should have their own state? and the several dialects in Scotland today shall we give them a country too? dress it any way you like, it `s nonsense.
@akumie2 Yes languages are an important part of identity but not exclusively,China has 56 ethnic groups that make its national character and therefore one language alone does not make a nationality and consequently a country.Many native cultures make up the Indian nations in the US/Canada but their nationality is American or Canadian most people around the world know Scottish culture when they see it even if they cant find it on a map, looks like a Swedish problem you apply to Scotland
Scotland's right & ability. Can you envisage someone you love?
Most learn that for a child to grow and be at peace it must have something vital: a certain liberty and authenticity. Deny this and something dies. I beg you. Scotland is dying. Will you be brave enough to let her go? Will you have courage to liberate her soul?
I beg you. Look at the reality of broken lives and a self harming place - let her go outside to see the sun and to live a life God willing. To be in full expression.
Scotland: another 30 to 60 years of oil, 25% of Europe's tidal power and wind power capabilities, and 10% of its wave energy capabilities. England takes Scottish gas, Scottish oil, Scottish water, Scottish electricity (and Scottish police should your youth be rioting in the streets...). Flesh out your argument with details or go back quietly to your Daily Mail-informed bigotry.
Independence would be better for Scotland and England. Our relationship would be better as well. No more blaming each other. Time to move forward side by side not being dragged behind our big neighbours.
This one time I went to Scotland. It rained non-stop and was freezing cold. Everyone is overweight and has false teeth. All the men are transvestites and the women look like men. I was attacked by a swarm of midges and thrown out of a pub for saying that the Loch Ness monster didn't exist. Everyone is constantly drunk and there is a very high level of MS due to the horrible weather. I couldn't sleep at night due to the constant bagpipe noise. I am never going back.
Salmond thinks holding the referendum to coincide with the anniversary of a medieval battle is going to is going to make any difference? It's like a call from UKIP to have an Eu rerendum on Churchill's birthday - completely irrelavent to the real issues and completely desperate. And if he's so sure he'd win, what's with the "devo max" option? Can't wait for his excuse to postpone in 2014, "gotta take my wee doggie to vet/wash my hair/don't want to miss Hollyoaks" LOL
3 mins 08 seconds. The voice of a typical Rangers supporting idiot saying "I don't think Scotland could survive without England". There in a nut-shell is the problem with unionist thickos who are perpetually holding Scotland back. Scotland can indeed survive and flourish without England. Scotland should vote for independence and stop filling the coffers of the English who have plundered Scotland's resources for far too long. Go it alone Scotland. Stop living under the thumb of the English.
We NEED to stay together. I know there is shit between all of our countries, but the UK must stay together or it is all over for us and our illustrious history. Do you guys really think you can stand up to the spreading influence of Germany?None of us can if divided. We need to clean up our acts, leave the EU and ally ourselves with Norway. Everything we ever did that was great was done TOGETHER. Heck, the sun never set on our empire! Don't leave, Scotland. We'll lose whatever power remains.
@101momoxoxo Opinions? What, about James VI? That's not an opinion he made, it was historical BS from someone who probably watched Braveheart and thought it was a factual history lesson! James VI was a Scot, not English. How can a Scot be planting insurgents in his own country? Ahh, I seee, are you saying he was a double agent? Paranoid loons as well as a chips on your shoulders the size of a Great Redwoods....
I will be so pissed off if we(scotland) go independent, i so dont want it, im totally happy being the uk, if we go seperate then im moving to berwick upon tweed, what will happen to the BRITISH army?? everything BRITISH? scotland wont have anything. Oil WILL run out.
And I want a proffesional border built with armed guard's with order's of shoot to kill any scot that tries to cross the border into England without a passport
@Liam2621 Northern Ireland today is a totally different place it is far stronger today within the UK than it ever was post 1998... A United Kingdom is the best place for the Scots to remain .
It's a grand idea that the SNP has going back to a Nordic model nation, whether the UK (a monarchy union) remains or not, I think Scotland should be rid of the Irish revisionism too that latches onto Scotland.
Scottish independence is inevitable unless there is a huge shift in British politics for some unseen reason. The Scottish parliament has matured the political landscape of the nation and they will seek to guide their own destiny within ten year maximum. Good luck to them. I hope they go for a complete separation of Church and state and so leave behind to religious problems that dog the country. Ban religion in public schools and become a new modern secular nation.
@WillShakespeare2007 True, if it happens though, I don't want links to Ireland that these Irish use to try and latch onto Scotland though, that's the other side of the same coin.
Scotland must be rid of them and their Romanist revisionist history.
More power to Scotland, Independence is coming and about time too...Dont let the english/union controlled media scare any of you in to voting against independence, Scotland can look after itself, and let england crumble, Saor Alba.
@FooCork20 why would we crmble, please explain why our economy would faulter.
oh and if you will prosper and england crumble as you say then why would you seem to wish suc on an entire country, have we offended scotland somehow.
at the end of the day we will still trade and have join financial investments in each other businesses, it is not like we are gonna close down boarders or anything.
reforms great, but independence seems awquard to pull off, so much laws to rewrite
@WmJenkinson Scotland the Brave? That PM with a Scottish surname in Westminster has told you you can have a vote on independence right now, yes or no, if you want to. But all of a sudden big brave Salmond has become quite meek and wants to put it off to a later date. If you wanted FREEEEDOM! so much you'd think you'd do it right now. What do I hear? That's it, the sound of foot dragging from the "brave" Scottish people. Maybe you should call yourselves "Scotland the not so Brave"?
@Bubo25 What you fail to understand is that the Scottish people has told Westminster we can have a vote, through democracy - not other way around. We don't need permission from Cameron, neither do we need his interference. And good luck to Westminster denying a yes result on the referendum, the rest of the world would be appalled as it violates even UN rules and puts the British government in a position of being more undemocratic than Sudan, where independence occurred democratically.
@MSfeller I'm looking forward to a yes vote, then we can kick all the Scots out of Westminster who like voting on English only laws and back north of the border where they belong. I'm looking forward to the Scots having to stand on their own feet with no taxes from Westminster. I'm looking forward to seeing the Scots getting to all their oil in the North Sea without the use of all those expensive London financed rigs. If a no is voted I look forward to Scots trying to blame us for it.
@Bubo25 Ignoring your other attempts of belittling Scotland and her economy, especially the oil revenue which has served your Westminster so well, and also ignoring the fact that despite English allegations Scotland gives more than it takes and that we do pay our way within the United Kingdom, I have to absolutely agree with you on Scottish politicians voting on English matters. It just goes to show how flawed the British government and system is. England would also be better independent
@MSfeller It isn't belittling anyone saying that it may be your oil but the rigs that drill it are both built with money from London and also stand in international waters. You're free to the oil and build your own rigs with your own budget by all means, but if there's any justice then we'd confiscate the rigs that're there now due to them being our property.
@Bubo25 There's no "maybe", the oil is in Scottish territorial waters, simple as that. The rigs were "bought with money from London"? Considering the millions and millions of oil revenue that went straight into your pockets, I would say that the rigs are more than paid for, and you'd still owe us quite a massive amount of money, if you wanna go down that way. Your government has no rights or credential to confiscate a damn thing, after all the Scottish money that went down your way, pal.
The UK doesn't even own the oil in the north sea, it is owned by private business, the tax from it is what the government get and that is what Scotland would get. How much that is and whether Scotland would be better off is still not clear. Scotland would lose huge amounts of jobs when the public sector jobs moved south so you'd have to do all the sums and see what was the result
The SNP are not saying much, they don't seem to even know what currency they could use as £ and € are out
@eurosceptic1 It's the same for the oil in Alaska, Venezuela, etc. Private business own the oil rigs and obviously make their profit, but the respective countries governments get their revenue and are the owners of the territorial waters. So the government does own the oil and can grant/deny the privilege of extracting it and get taxes.
And what makes you think that jobs will move south, and not north? The SNP is clear, the £ will remain till people vote otherwise, which I doubt.
The £ is the UK currency, Scotland would not have the right to use it if they left the UK. Do you think Argentina could just start using the £? No they couldn't, you are not allowed to use the currency of another country.
The public sector jobs, ship building, nhs, military and so on are UK public sector jobs, do you really think they will stay in Scotland if Scotland is not even in the UK? Well no they wouldn't, they would be moved to NI, Wales or England
@eurosceptic1 Didn't realize that the pound was now a copyright issue that we were not "allowed to use". I guess that the Irish pound didn't exist before the Euro, it was nothing but a figment of our imagination, huh?
Please, provide valid arguments or don't bother replying.
Even if your argument was valid, I'd still take the € rather than your £ under subjugation. After all, right now we are subjugated to the UK and the EU. At least an Independent Scotland is under EU only.
As I have already said, you couldn't just 'take' the Euro, you (Scotland) would have to be a member of the EU under Scotland, not as a part of the UK. In order to do that you have to apply to be a member but that takes a long time (10 years usually)
You could have a Scottish £ but it would be very different to the British £, it would need to look different and it would be put on the exchange on it's own merit. The Aussies and the Americans both use the $ but they are very different
@eurosceptic1 That don't bother me. A "new" (I quote new as the Scottish saltire alone is older than England as a state) country, we will need to issue our own currency. US, CN, NZ, AU, yes, all have dollars and they issue it themselves. Yes, all this will take a while. Those should be decisions for an Independent Scotland to make.
As for visas, please... Swiss, Norwegians, etc, are not EU citizens and need no visa here. There's EEA besides the EU (since UK is not Schengen)
@MSfeller it seems to me that Scots know very little about the real issues of independence and most of what they think about independence comes from watching Braveheart 23 times.
@eurosceptic1 You Unionists sound ridiculous and very repetitive by mentioning Braveheart again and again, and Mel Gibson. Don't patronize me, or our country. I doubt you even know how many historical inaccuracies are in that movie, just that there are 'cause you "heard around". Typical condescending, talking down pompous attitude towards us by patronizing Scots as idiots that want independence due a movie. Grow up, man, this is not a football match, it's our country's future.
@MSfeller Of course you can have the pound but not the pound based on the bank of engalnd. Effectivley your own currency. Plus Its stated Scotland will take 30% of british debt and also rbs bank will be your full responsability rather than the english tax payer. All royal navy raf and army bases will be relocated to England, As Scotland will not be a member of the eu all scottish nations working in engand will have to apply for a visa to work here, if not returned to scotland.
@eurosceptic1 The trouble with scotland is that its full of scots. The absoloute cheek. They think they have the right to retain the english pound, and automatic entry to the EU. LOL, a population of 6 million will have no chance. The other thing i hear is the oil revenue. Well how can you put a claim on North sea all without a navy. They also think they have the right to retain the nhs and public sector. What planet are they on.
@steve1mufc English pound laddie? I suggest research the bank of England it was created by a Scot, the Pound Sterling also,since we are 8.9% of the UK population the assets including the navy 8.9% is ours and yes we will take our equal share of the national debt none of us wish to cheat England the NHS in Scotland has nothing to do with you anyway don't believe the crap you are paying for us.if it were true the unionists will not want to hang on to us England keeps nothing if it costs money.
@Oder1001 doesnt matter who created it, the bank of england have already stated they intend not to allow the scots to use pound sterling. It will have to be an indapendent currency. Also Scotland will not be an eu country so you will not even have the euro. I understand oil will be split 50%, although most of the wells have been exhausted now anyway. Its stated scotland can not retain any of the armed forces and will have to start there own indapendent scottish armed forces.
@steve1mufc so an English bank decides we don't have a currency and England decide they will help themselves to 50% Scottish resources,as most of the wells are dry we will have anyway typical English attitude, a new Scottish military would be established the serving men and women can stay or join the Scottish forces at England's pleasure,England mucked up our regiments in the British army and reduced it to bits of regiments thrown all together.English government Scots regiments don`t need
@Oder1001 You forgot to mention RBS debt aswell. Being a scottish bank this will be scotlands responsability. Your living on cloud cookoo land if you think a population of 6 million can support a welfare state. What about the millions of scottish workers in england, without eu staus they will have to return to scotland. Surely breaking away from a country of englands magnitude with a population near on 60 million can only be a bad thing. It's unconstatutional will never happen.
@steve1mufc I forgot nothing RBS does 90% of its trading England and through London control by a British Government, apart from its name its dubious how Scottish it is but I am sure we will take an equal amount.dozens of countries around the world with population less than six million or are you saying because we are Scots we can`t make it?
unconstitutional? you talk more nonsense the Articles of Union state if the people vote to leave the Union we can do so, suggest you and Cameron read them.
Even unionist journalists for The Guardian have recognized that our independence is inevitable. With that and recent polls showing that -for the first time in Scotland and the UK as a whole- support for Independence is gaining momentum. But with Salmond at the helm and the Tories in London, I don't think we've got much to worry about.
Scotland - the country that led the first industrial revolution and will a make a major contribution to the next one.
Scotland is the best country in the world for investment in infinite renewable energy. Companies all over the world have already invested in the Scottish resources movement.
It's a valuable future asset.
The unionist media will spread as much lies as they can to discourage the Scots from voting for independence as using Scotland for it's resources is what they really want.
@scotchprofessor It's not going to happen. It's well known support in Scotland simply is not big enough. I don't understand why we would want to become like Ireland either! Rule britannia!
@scotchprofessor Criticize news media who don't believe in you. Trust me the BBC is on the same reliability to that of Russia Today. You can't judge media because they don't happen to agree with your insane thoughts of destroying the union. I'm Welsh, and personally I detest the SNP, bunch of nationalist chest pounding gorillas. I know I'm going to get thumbs down on this, but all the SNP represents is the bad part of humanity. Nationalism. Nationalism which causes humanity to go backwards.
@BritzProd There is so much wrong with this statement I don't know where to begin. Let's first say that nationalism is NOT what has caused humanity to go backwards, but the total opposite direction. If you knew anything about the history of invention and discovery in the fields of math and science, you would know that it was all most productive under nationalist governments. Second, there is nothing wrong and certainly not "insane" with the notion of dissolving the union.
@Midvinterblot542 Oh to you there is. And how is it that nationalism helps people go forward? Nationalism by the way, is what started world war one. Doesn't change my opinion, still just a bunch of nationalistic chest pounding gorillas. Not to mention, nationalism gives people the thought that the other countries are
inferior, that they are better, when at the end of the day, they are exactly the same human being. Nationalism is nothing more then a poison for you people to drink. So drink up.
@BritzProd That may be your definition of nationalism, but it's certainly not mine. Many people like yourself have no faith in nationalism due to the idea of ethnocentrism. I believe a people can be proud of their kin and heritage, yet still maintain cultural enlightenment by viewing their neighbors as different and unique, yet respect them as equals.
@scotchprofessor lol the bank of england have stated scotland will not retain sterling and Brussels have announced that you will not automatically gain entry into the E.U as the snp stated. Plus RBS will be taken from our hands and the scots will take 30% of British national debt. With englands population and infastructure we will not see any change really but scotland will end up like Greece begging the English for money just like the Irish on the last bail out. Good riddence.
@steve1mufc 30% of the national debt for 8,9 % of the population? have you ever wondered why people use the term Perfidious Albion? it seems to reach a fair agreement is beyond principle,begging the English for money that we will never do, don`t speak for Europe England/UK are a none event in it. If we leave we save you money you should be happy not angry.
A lot of folk talking about Scotland's income coming from oil reserves. I am a geoscientist and our oil will run out this century. What do we do for main income then? We also do not, despite what the SNP say, have enough money for a strong army or MI5 and MI6 type organisations. Our oil is going to start looking very appealing to others as the years go by and oil gets more and more scarce. Who's to stop them taking it? Ridiculous flaws in Salmond's plan. Most people I know will be voting no.
jmorgan91100 2 weeks ago
@jmorgan91100 The oil revenue allows us a cash surplus to invest in the create of sustainable employment. We need many home schools and hospitals. Our population is being under used at present this needs changing. The UN protects Independent nations from aggression. I'm not sure who you imagine would try and sieze the oil fields, pipelines and terminals. If most Scots read the McCrone report ( available online )they'll vote YES . We live in an age where misleading facts are easily put to rest.
45housty 2 weeks ago
The english say we wont survive without them. Bull Shit, billons of pounds a year from scottish oil and gas goses to westminster, more like lets see them pay for there war without us.
BrodieStewartCKY 2 weeks ago
@BrodieStewartCKY Lol england is a richer country than scotland, even with your oil.
jayc342009 1 day ago
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The whole world is experiencing massive change in wealth,power, resourses: who ends up controlling Middle East. Build up to SinoRussia USA Nato.'trouble' Europes Unity, etc etc So Scotland issue one way or other is very small, but to say if it makes Britain as a whole less effective millitarily, in light of Iraq and Libya it can only be a good thing
20Alanpartridge 3 weeks ago
England cant say Piss off and walk, there is a debt owed, security issues, and a few years negotiations to be made after the referendum- including issues such as defence - which also are central to English/Welsh national security and NOT JUST SCOTLANDS! Some say the idea of independence is a form of romanticism, but think about how 19 century Scottish determination built the United States?
ZOMBIEVONGHOULLIE 3 weeks ago
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Hey I know politicians (no names) and there are early discussions about limiting access through England through toll roads,where the lorry tariffs can be very high, we can make Scottish goods to europe expensive. We have geography on our side - we don't need to go North. Europe cannot set the tarriffs either. we can also tap NSO at highest point off North East coast of England. There are many more surprises going to effect how well the Scottish economy fairs post Union
20Alanpartridge 3 weeks ago
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In England we have geography on our side Put a £100 levy on all lorries coming across the new boarder to travel through England to go to Europe. Enough to make somethings unviable. They can do the same to ours heading north into the sea to to trade with Greenland*!
20Alanpartridge 3 weeks ago
I am pro Scottish independence, but very much anti-EU/Euro. From what I understand, Salmond seems very pro-EU, which leaves me feeling divided. The Scottish people need to start making demands, not just let politicians do the talking for them.
Midvinterblot542 4 weeks ago 2
@Midvinterblot542 Hi man, John Swinney stated they would want to stay with sterling for some time. But they would like to stay in the European Economic Area (Google Norway in Europe and read the wiki article) This does not mean full membership of the Europeon union, just that they are allowed to export freely. This is the way Norway functions. Here = watch?v=lEAwSfxu-b0 (I actually recommend watching the whole thing actually)
Hope that clears it up. peace.
TechReid 4 weeks ago
@Midvinterblot542 im pro union but i could be convinced someday of agreeing wiht Scotland going it alone, BUT... the problem is not with salmond he will sell us out to the EU and that will be worse than london mark my words, look what happened to ireland the EU fucked them over big time, half trade volume and trillions of debt compared to a few billion before it, yes i said trillions.
powervr250 3 weeks ago
@Midvinterblot542 vote no to salmond and wait until a real candidate who can run scotland properly comes along
powervr250 3 weeks ago 2
@Midvinterblot542
Scotland will join the Euro probably, lol.
If Scotland wants economic suicide then i say let it happen.
tcpgblizzard 2 weeks ago
@Midvinterblot542 Independence is the start of the process not the conclusion. The referendum will only be a step forward. Having the ability to change what we want within Scotland by the the Scottish people.
45housty 2 weeks ago
@Midvinterblot542 Well, Join the Nordic Union then? Its mainly a economical and militarly union, We wouldn't ask you too give up your sovreignty ;)
NordenHonor 1 week ago
@Midvinterblot542 Alex Salmond has since made it clear he believes we should have partnerships (in terms of trade and general friendship) with the EU. However, we will keep our currency and stay independent.
NekoDemon11 6 days ago
@Midvinterblot542 how many times can I like your comment? trying for a billion, mate.
ThatBassistKendall 4 days ago
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My only reservation is that an independent Scotland would just be more of the same.
Salmond is firmly in Brian Souter's pockets and look what effect that's had. Bus deregulation has left thousands of rural people without public transport.
I need convincing that an independent Scotland would have real laws designed to combat political corruption, I don't want to vote for independence and end up living in England-lite.
What will the SNP do to curb lobbying/bribery in Hollyrood and local councils?
asubjectiveopinion 1 month ago
always find all the stupidest people to interview they can find basterds
SlipySama 1 month ago
Viva Escocia y su independencia!!!!!!
davonata 1 month ago
FREE SCOTS IM WATCHING BRAVEHEART NOW
bennlonelyboy 1 month ago
@bennlonelyboy - Then Vote Mel Gibson in for the next king of Scotland, cos your response is so pathetic you bring shame to the rest of your fellow Scots
rooters11 1 month ago
I voted SNP because i liked there ideas for Scotland,but i am not wanting the U.K to break up i like my dual nationality,The SNP hate anything English and any opinions from London is met with criticism.This is making ordinary Scots look bad.Everyone else in Britan must think we are nasty and spiteful.Shut yer tartan cakehole Salmond and get on with running the country before England boots us out the Union before we get a chance tae vote.
YARROWS9 1 month ago
@YARROWS9 England boot us out no mate that will never happen and has nothing to do with hating the English, you will get your opportunity to vote for union.
Oder1001 1 month ago
@YARROWS9 fantastic!! well said united we stand strong and i am scottish! Salmond is a selfish twat
powervr250 1 month ago
@powervr250 Scotland Wull and so will Mr Salmond you brainless back stabbing Fuck.
strathpipe 1 month ago
@strathpipe im not backstabbing, i was born British and in a time when the world is about uniting why separate? then when i go to London i get no benefits , making our world smaller? sorry doesnt make sense.
Dont change things that are not broken we live in a great wealthy scotland not fucking North Korea you risk taking faggot.
Id take up arms to defend he union and my right to be British and i will and believe me the first person that will be in the sights of unionist defenders will be YOU.
powervr250 1 month ago
@strathpipe and you forgot the fact faggot head, that salmond wants to piss off form the UK to sell our souls to brussels and the EU, believe me the terms and conditions for entering the EU will mean that Scotland will NOT be an independent nation but will in many ways fuel the desires of Germany and France.
Id rather trust people i have worked with for 300 years that share the same language and island that some real god damn euro crat foreigners, now who is the real backstabber? ooops its YOU.
powervr250 1 month ago
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@powervr250 'I want Scotland to be independent, not because I think we are better than any other country, but because I know we are just as good as any other country.'Independence will create a new, more modern relationship between the nations of these islands - a partnership of equals.Independence would allow Scotland to become a wealthier and fairer nation, Imagining a country that 'speaks with its own voice, stands taller in the world and takes responsibility for its own future'.
Alastairbell 4 weeks ago
@powervr250 Scotland Can no longer be misrepresented by a westminsters lies and properganda and brainwash of a britishness that supposed to be fair and equal but underneath isnt!!! Where newspapers hack anybody they like and pay the met police enforce and assist in abusing peoples human rights as well as interfering and preventing murder equiries to be brought to justice!!! The british society and way of life is a fucking joke and its the british government who should be accounterble for it!!
Alastairbell 4 weeks ago 2
@Alastairbell If you say its unfair, then why do people in England pay for NHS prescription medication but in Scotland we dont? we get more than our fair share.
And although the south UK(England) has its issues so does Scotland.
I mean look at Glasgow with all this orange marching,celtic crap, and bigot fenian / hun slurs and seperaed schools, talk about being in the stone ages , how vile, at least England has moved on from all that crap and realized religion is a farce.
powervr250 3 weeks ago
@powervr250 At the end of the day religion will always be a matter of different opinions and conflict to follow! The prodestant faith clashes with the catholic faith but please do not say that england are for more superior and above that because england is dominated by the prodestant faith and have played there part in minipulating prodestant occupation in scotland and Ireland too! And still to this day of 2012 No catholic Is allowed to sit on the thrown of england because of there faith
Alastairbell 3 weeks ago
@powervr250 Further more Lets just be aware that the church of england since henry VIII have shown lack of respect for a religion of 2000 years by picking and choicing what THEY feel they agree with and especially henry VIII at the time who was a catholic but turned his back on his religion and start the church of england in order to for him to anul his marriage not just so he could marry once more but again and again and agian
Alastairbell 3 weeks ago
@powervr250 So yes you are right in one aspect that england no longer argue or fight about religion!!!! They just take out bits they dont like and piece together that suits them!!! Catholic and prodestants may be accounterble for the relgious conflicts but at lest we dont change the ten commandment and the holy scriptures of christ so that its suits our own selfish needs!!!
Alastairbell 3 weeks ago
@powervr250 The church of england is a man made faith by Henry VIII and now the governor is none else than elizabeth II! I rest my case!!!
Alastairbell 3 weeks ago
@powervr250 Scots and scotland and her religion and culture can no longer live in a outdated union for the past 300 years!! Time changes and so must countries political and constitutional pathes change as well and even tho people cannot see or except scotland and england no longer being in a union together they should not hold two countries of different ways of thinking and cultures together through fear of change!! To sperate countries with to full antomy parliments will work better as equals
Alastairbell 3 weeks ago
@powervr250 Old mentalities must change just like with people in the fifties only knowing white people walking the streets of england and scotland! The world is constantly changing and so we must with it!
Alastairbell 3 weeks ago
@strathpipe an d forget braveheart shite, back then the way of the world was all about invading other peoples land and shit like that, but at least its better than the fuckin Germans that killed 6 million jews, yeah man go to sell our souls to the Germans and tell the UK that gives us passport and security and that is OUR country that we were BORN into to fuck off.
Take a ""needless" risk, "gamble" the future of our and your children without good reason, i`ll make sure the sniper has ur name!
powervr250 1 month ago
@powervr250 Go away you Bam I have never read such Pish in all my life as far as a sniper having my name I'm F'n Quaking I am. You Brainless Bigot. Scotland Wull and so will Mr Salmond you fearty.
strathpipe 1 month ago
@powervr250 Independence will give us choices not drag our young servicemen and women dragged into illegal wars like Iraq, and the option not to have nuclear weapons based on Scottish soil!! Scottish Independence will stop us being dragged into conflicts with pathetic reasons like westminsters and the us whitehouse intellegence using illegal invasion on weapons of mass destruction that never existed and was never found to start wars and kill millions on both sides for what? Oil??????
Alastairbell 4 weeks ago
@Alastairbell i agree on keeping out of war stuff and to stop the us anus licking.
powervr250 3 weeks ago
@YARROWS9 I agree :-)
lilmissfoxygirl 1 month ago
@YARROWS9 What dual nationality?
iamlilyy 1 month ago
@YARROWS9 i hav tae disagree - iam sick of the way england treat us.. time for a change it will help both countries i think, sick of being the scraps of england
TheMrmysteryguest1 1 month ago
@TheMrmysteryguest1 The way England treat us.The national debt is 1 Trillion,Scotlands share is 100 Billion, plus we owe the British tax payer 80 Billion for Scotlands biggest company going tits up.What a good start to Independence that is.
YARROWS9 1 month ago
@YARROWS9 We don't owe anyone tax for the banks going tits up. If this was the case then Scotland would be owed all the tax,plus other money London took from them and also we would be owed all money taken by London from the oil(which would be enough to pay of the full UK debt),because that is a UK resource based in Scotland. Scotland would be in a great financial state when leaving the Union. Unionists are too stubborn to see this.
aggromanandy 1 month ago
@YARROWS9 We wouldn't owe tax*,I meant to type.
aggromanandy 1 month ago
Free Scotland!
watch?v=unNkOoTQaNI
yacarecito 1 month ago
Edinburgh born, and there is no way i would allow a fat twat who is only doing this for his own selfish interests not out of logic to deny me my birth right of being British and inconvenience my life to the max and create more barriers.
Where u gonna buy your military from with a non existent economy, and non existent export trade?
The world now is about breaking barriers down not creating them and i love being british id rather trust London more than Brussels
powervr250 1 month ago
Death to England. Saor Alba.
redphoenix5100 1 month ago
@redphoenix5100 - loser, what a disgrace you are.
rooters11 1 month ago
United we stand if devided we fall
OGZxH4CKZOR1 1 month ago
@OGZxH4CKZOR1 Devided england fall don't you mean?
kamakaziRider88 1 month ago
not my day essay not eassy typing too fast!
Oder1001 1 month ago
Freedom for my Celtic brothers...
WmJenkinson 1 month ago
Scots be smart.Vote for independence.The English will never give you this chance again.
Paintballerfromhell1 1 month ago
Fucking retarded, what is the benefit of breaking away from the Union!?
16mes 1 month ago
@16mes Keeping our oil money and spending it the way we want in its entirety, not being involved in illegal wars, not having have nuclear warheads based only twenty minutes away from out most populous region, not paying for a 'national' tv service that ignores us, having a greater say in the EU (and not facing the threat of being pulled out of it by little Englanders), having a more progressive parliament mirroring our own beliefs.
The case for the 'union' has still to be put forward.
scotchprofessor 1 month ago
@scotchprofessor You think everyone working in the government is English? Is this some sort of anti-english protest!? Any decisions made by the government are discussed by not just English, but also Scottish, Welsh and Irish people together. I honestly can't even fathom how ignorant some of you are being... If you want to be so patriotic towards being Scottish and ignorant of everybody else in this union then you better stop speaking my language.
16mes 1 month ago
@16mes what is your case for union? be precise and positive in your answer please not the usual "we are stronger together crap" a little more sophisticated answer is required.
Oder1001 1 month ago
Lookup United Kingdom on Wikipedia and do some research on Scotlands overall GDP etc. Not sure why I should have to explain it.
16mes 1 month ago
@16mes You obviously did not understand, I am aware of the negative unionist reasons and the armageddon scenario that is to happen (similar to the time of devolution and wrong) what I was asking for is the positive reasons to how the country will progress in the union you may have noticed that positive message is lacking from unionists, voters will vote with their feet like the elections last may unionist parties fought on a negative campaign.I would like to hear your positive reasons not wiki
Oder1001 1 month ago
@Oder1001 Being part of the UK means for better protection, there would be benefits economically, increased global influence and providing you would want to rejoin the EU again after becoming indipendant then that would mean switching to the Euro as all new members have that as a requirement.
16mes 1 month ago
@16mes protection from what ? "benefits" good explain for inside and outside union.
global influence ? we have plenty ask any foreigner about Scotland he tell you we are part of England we are well recognised world wide, deciding whether we are in the Europe is not up to England alone it will concern all of Europe. I have to say your positive answer is no different from the negative reactions of unionist here I did ask you to be specific you weren't would you like to try again?
Oder1001 1 month ago
@Oder1001 I was specific, you're just refusing to understand. If you were hoping for me to write an entire essay for you on this then sadly you won't be getting on but I assure you I probably could ;)
16mes 1 month ago
@16mes No I dont need and eassy and there is not the space here but you proved me correct on what I suspected ... thanks!
Oder1001 1 month ago
I say when 50%+ of the population can speak gaelic then they may have Independence
akumie2 1 month ago
@akumie2 Another Englishman who knows whats better for Scots, you related to Cameron by any chance?
Oder1001 1 month ago
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akumie2 1 month ago
@Oder1001 I am from Sweden thank you very much and I will not change my mind
If people are so fucking proud to be scottish then learn the language already
Other wise Scottland is just another area of England that has kilts and bagpipes
Even Wales is trying to make more people speak Welsh and they are slowly growing by number of Welsh speakers so yes I unless a country has a unique language from its neighbours no point in becoming independent
akumie2 1 month ago
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@akumie2
Same as I dont see a point in South America to have so many countries when they all speak spanish
Just make all spanish countries 1 big country and give each native tribe its own country
akumie2 1 month ago
@akumie2 No I would not expect you to change your mind just curious as to why it appears you think to speak a particular language is a dominant reason for people to have or not have independence,but every one is entitled to their own idea I suppose.
Oder1001 1 month ago
@Oder1001 Yes because if they dont have unique language then we can as well make every region a country
akumie2 1 month ago
@akumie2 every country in Africa from the South to Egypt has English as a first language so then we take a continent and class it a region? hmm! English is the official language in India so we should just consider India region of what ? England! I don't see any logic in what you are saying India is not a region its and independent state as are many other English speaking countries and republics to imply they are regions and not counties is just nonsense.
Oder1001 1 month ago
@Oder1001 should read countries not counties sticky fingers!
Oder1001 1 month ago
@Oder1001 You dont get it, I am saying as first language obviously and most indians dont speak English as first language
Africa doesnt really count seening as many tribes with unique languages just walk over boarders and dont care
I will say it one last time, if you are so fucking proud to be Scottish then learn the language already
akumie2 1 month ago
@akumie2 No you don`t get it there is 240 languages and dialects in India it makes sense to to have one official language and they do .. .English! walk over the border? when was your last trip to Africa? In South Africa 16 languages and all South Africans one nation the official languages all 16 of them but the language of government English they don't have 16 regions they are a country applying your philosophical logic in this situation is pure bullsh*t.
Oder1001 1 month ago
@Oder1001 Lets make it in terms even you can understand
Every group of people who speak a language gets one country meaning places like Africa, India... will be split up to over 1000 countries
If I spoke a minority language I would not want to have to change language just to be able to speak to the goverment but instead make a small country with own goverment that uses the language I speak
akumie2 1 month ago
@akumie2 It is a FACT that a country/group of people looses loads of culture when the local language dies out like the native americans, aborigines...and therfore I dont see why Scottland should be a country when it is really no different then England
If anything give the Scottish Gaelic speakers a small country because like I said they are the true people who are proud to be Scottish
akumie2 1 month ago
@akumie2 Same as NO ONE in my country Sweden who speaks bad Swedish (people born to foreigners) have the right to say they are proud to be Swedish because once again language=culture
akumie2 1 month ago
@akumie2 rather a petty and discriminatory view that . No one it Sweden to teach them properly? doesn't say much for Sweden does it?
Oder1001 1 month ago
@akumie2 its a fact in Scotland today that the drive for independence is not driven by language but the sense of unity ,purpose pride in the country and for it to progress.
and by your reasoning US, Australia, and New Zealand and are all extensions of England I am sure I am not the only one who disagrees with you.
Oder1001 1 month ago
@akumie2 Many countries are multilingual and individuals in these countries speak 2,3,4 and in exceptional cases ten or more languages.Language alone does not define Nationhood if it did no country would exist today. Minority people in India have to learn English to understand their government which is OK by you but minorities in other countries should have their own state? and the several dialects in Scotland today shall we give them a country too? dress it any way you like, it `s nonsense.
Oder1001 1 month ago
@Oder1001 Dialekts is not languages but you believe what you want
I just hope that Scottland only becomes a country when people actually care for the language becaue no matter what you say I think a language=culture
Sweden for example would lose loads of culture if we started using English
akumie2 1 month ago
@akumie2 Yes languages are an important part of identity but not exclusively,China has 56 ethnic groups that make its national character and therefore one language alone does not make a nationality and consequently a country.Many native cultures make up the Indian nations in the US/Canada but their nationality is American or Canadian most people around the world know Scottish culture when they see it even if they cant find it on a map, looks like a Swedish problem you apply to Scotland
Oder1001 1 month ago
Scotland's right & ability. Can you envisage someone you love?
Most learn that for a child to grow and be at peace it must have something vital: a certain liberty and authenticity. Deny this and something dies. I beg you. Scotland is dying. Will you be brave enough to let her go? Will you have courage to liberate her soul?
I beg you. Look at the reality of broken lives and a self harming place - let her go outside to see the sun and to live a life God willing. To be in full expression.
telemetry9 1 month ago
Stupid Scottish bastards, you wouldnt last 10 minutes without English
ScouserLegend 1 month ago
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@ScouserLegend
Scotland: another 30 to 60 years of oil, 25% of Europe's tidal power and wind power capabilities, and 10% of its wave energy capabilities. England takes Scottish gas, Scottish oil, Scottish water, Scottish electricity (and Scottish police should your youth be rioting in the streets...). Flesh out your argument with details or go back quietly to your Daily Mail-informed bigotry.
scotchprofessor 1 month ago
Well seen the Rangers fan is pro union! lol :)
Independence would be better for Scotland and England. Our relationship would be better as well. No more blaming each other. Time to move forward side by side not being dragged behind our big neighbours.
albabhoy81 1 month ago
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This one time I went to Scotland. It rained non-stop and was freezing cold. Everyone is overweight and has false teeth. All the men are transvestites and the women look like men. I was attacked by a swarm of midges and thrown out of a pub for saying that the Loch Ness monster didn't exist. Everyone is constantly drunk and there is a very high level of MS due to the horrible weather. I couldn't sleep at night due to the constant bagpipe noise. I am never going back.
karezza6 1 month ago
@karezza6 Midges? In freezing cold weather?
scotchprofessor 1 month ago
Salmond thinks holding the referendum to coincide with the anniversary of a medieval battle is going to is going to make any difference? It's like a call from UKIP to have an Eu rerendum on Churchill's birthday - completely irrelavent to the real issues and completely desperate. And if he's so sure he'd win, what's with the "devo max" option? Can't wait for his excuse to postpone in 2014, "gotta take my wee doggie to vet/wash my hair/don't want to miss Hollyoaks" LOL
barnbersonol 1 month ago
i hope scotland will be FREE and indepetend from britain.
itachiitachi1946 1 month ago
Anyone who thinks that Scotland couldn't be prosperous as an independent country is proof that brainwashing from the media and Westminster works.
Scotland would be better off, there is no doubt, the real question is whether we want to leave the UK.
chancergordy 1 month ago
3 mins 08 seconds. The voice of a typical Rangers supporting idiot saying "I don't think Scotland could survive without England". There in a nut-shell is the problem with unionist thickos who are perpetually holding Scotland back. Scotland can indeed survive and flourish without England. Scotland should vote for independence and stop filling the coffers of the English who have plundered Scotland's resources for far too long. Go it alone Scotland. Stop living under the thumb of the English.
RFCWEARETHEPE0PLE 1 month ago
We NEED to stay together. I know there is shit between all of our countries, but the UK must stay together or it is all over for us and our illustrious history. Do you guys really think you can stand up to the spreading influence of Germany?None of us can if divided. We need to clean up our acts, leave the EU and ally ourselves with Norway. Everything we ever did that was great was done TOGETHER. Heck, the sun never set on our empire! Don't leave, Scotland. We'll lose whatever power remains.
22ndWave 1 month ago
@Bubo25 respect other peoples opinions right?! If you don't like it then go away.
101momoxoxo 1 month ago
@101momoxoxo Opinions? What, about James VI? That's not an opinion he made, it was historical BS from someone who probably watched Braveheart and thought it was a factual history lesson! James VI was a Scot, not English. How can a Scot be planting insurgents in his own country? Ahh, I seee, are you saying he was a double agent? Paranoid loons as well as a chips on your shoulders the size of a Great Redwoods....
Bubo25 1 month ago
Woop woop!!! Independence for scotland !!!!!!! FREDOOOMMM!
101momoxoxo 1 month ago
@RichardElden Planted by James VI? What, you mean that king who was born in Edinburgh on 19th June 1566?
Bubo25 1 month ago
Fuck kingdom.. Scotland will be independent..
dengeyoook 1 month ago
can someone tell me if it's true the s.n.p will legalise cannabis if they win Independence?
Bdiddly1 1 month ago
A United Kingdom is the only way forward...
sinnfeinmurderers 1 month ago
UK oil and gas has declined since 1999 and will be insignificant in the future.
sangolt88 1 month ago
I will be so pissed off if we(scotland) go independent, i so dont want it, im totally happy being the uk, if we go seperate then im moving to berwick upon tweed, what will happen to the BRITISH army?? everything BRITISH? scotland wont have anything. Oil WILL run out.
forkihalei 1 month ago
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And I want a proffesional border built with armed guard's with order's of shoot to kill any scot that tries to cross the border into England without a passport
viewfinder777 1 month ago
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Personaly being an ENGLISHMEN i cant wait to see the back of Scotland.
1.All national lottery machine's taken out of Scotland,Scot's never allowed to play England's lottery.
2.Both Scot's and English need a passport to enter and exit both countries.
3.An English parliament for the English.
4.Im all in favour of a complete breakup of the UK.
5.No more English tax payer's money to go to Scotland forever.
P.S.North sea oil isnt owned by Scotland and you'll have no defence.
GOOD BYE SCOTLAND. RIP.
viewfinder777 1 month ago
It should be about pride and freedom rather than money and oil
Liam2621 1 month ago
Just hope we can get rid of northern Ireland as well, it would be embarrassing if they were clinging on to us after the scots have gone.
Liam2621 1 month ago
@Liam2621 Northern Ireland today is a totally different place it is far stronger today within the UK than it ever was post 1998... A United Kingdom is the best place for the Scots to remain .
sinnfeinmurderers 1 month ago
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It's a grand idea that the SNP has going back to a Nordic model nation, whether the UK (a monarchy union) remains or not, I think Scotland should be rid of the Irish revisionism too that latches onto Scotland.
segano1 2 months ago
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ScottishRepublican 2 months ago
The SNP are not a true nationalist party, They are a pro european federalist party and we all know where the EU is going.
Independance yes Europe NO
TheCrannTara 2 months ago
Scottish independence is inevitable unless there is a huge shift in British politics for some unseen reason. The Scottish parliament has matured the political landscape of the nation and they will seek to guide their own destiny within ten year maximum. Good luck to them. I hope they go for a complete separation of Church and state and so leave behind to religious problems that dog the country. Ban religion in public schools and become a new modern secular nation.
WillShakespeare2007 2 months ago
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@WillShakespeare2007 True, if it happens though, I don't want links to Ireland that these Irish use to try and latch onto Scotland though, that's the other side of the same coin.
Scotland must be rid of them and their Romanist revisionist history.
segano1 2 months ago
@RichardElden
What they do is up to them. Of course, you don't seem to be able to comprehend that.
EqualityScotland 2 months ago
3:13 is what Unionists look like.
truefalse 2 months ago
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@RichardElden
Last thing I say before I ignore you like everyone else does:
Some of us are attempting to have a mature debate. RichardElden: troll.
scotchprofessor 2 months ago
@RichardElden Some of us are attempting to have a mature debate. RichardElden: troll.
scotchprofessor 2 months ago
More power to Scotland, Independence is coming and about time too...Dont let the english/union controlled media scare any of you in to voting against independence, Scotland can look after itself, and let england crumble, Saor Alba.
FooCork20 3 months ago
@FooCork20
England would crumble? The SNP likes to put a lot of the spotlight on the oil, but the majority of your economy is public sector.
MrValzen 2 months ago
@FooCork20 why would we crmble, please explain why our economy would faulter.
oh and if you will prosper and england crumble as you say then why would you seem to wish suc on an entire country, have we offended scotland somehow.
at the end of the day we will still trade and have join financial investments in each other businesses, it is not like we are gonna close down boarders or anything.
reforms great, but independence seems awquard to pull off, so much laws to rewrite
Tommonius 2 months ago
Scotland the Brave!
WmJenkinson 3 months ago
@WmJenkinson Scotland the Brave? That PM with a Scottish surname in Westminster has told you you can have a vote on independence right now, yes or no, if you want to. But all of a sudden big brave Salmond has become quite meek and wants to put it off to a later date. If you wanted FREEEEDOM! so much you'd think you'd do it right now. What do I hear? That's it, the sound of foot dragging from the "brave" Scottish people. Maybe you should call yourselves "Scotland the not so Brave"?
Bubo25 1 month ago
@Bubo25 What you fail to understand is that the Scottish people has told Westminster we can have a vote, through democracy - not other way around. We don't need permission from Cameron, neither do we need his interference. And good luck to Westminster denying a yes result on the referendum, the rest of the world would be appalled as it violates even UN rules and puts the British government in a position of being more undemocratic than Sudan, where independence occurred democratically.
MSfeller 1 month ago
@MSfeller I'm looking forward to a yes vote, then we can kick all the Scots out of Westminster who like voting on English only laws and back north of the border where they belong. I'm looking forward to the Scots having to stand on their own feet with no taxes from Westminster. I'm looking forward to seeing the Scots getting to all their oil in the North Sea without the use of all those expensive London financed rigs. If a no is voted I look forward to Scots trying to blame us for it.
Bubo25 1 month ago
@Bubo25 Ignoring your other attempts of belittling Scotland and her economy, especially the oil revenue which has served your Westminster so well, and also ignoring the fact that despite English allegations Scotland gives more than it takes and that we do pay our way within the United Kingdom, I have to absolutely agree with you on Scottish politicians voting on English matters. It just goes to show how flawed the British government and system is. England would also be better independent
MSfeller 1 month ago
@MSfeller It isn't belittling anyone saying that it may be your oil but the rigs that drill it are both built with money from London and also stand in international waters. You're free to the oil and build your own rigs with your own budget by all means, but if there's any justice then we'd confiscate the rigs that're there now due to them being our property.
Bubo25 1 month ago
@Bubo25 There's no "maybe", the oil is in Scottish territorial waters, simple as that. The rigs were "bought with money from London"? Considering the millions and millions of oil revenue that went straight into your pockets, I would say that the rigs are more than paid for, and you'd still owe us quite a massive amount of money, if you wanna go down that way. Your government has no rights or credential to confiscate a damn thing, after all the Scottish money that went down your way, pal.
MSfeller 1 month ago
@MSfeller
The UK doesn't even own the oil in the north sea, it is owned by private business, the tax from it is what the government get and that is what Scotland would get. How much that is and whether Scotland would be better off is still not clear. Scotland would lose huge amounts of jobs when the public sector jobs moved south so you'd have to do all the sums and see what was the result
The SNP are not saying much, they don't seem to even know what currency they could use as £ and € are out
eurosceptic1 1 month ago
@eurosceptic1 It's the same for the oil in Alaska, Venezuela, etc. Private business own the oil rigs and obviously make their profit, but the respective countries governments get their revenue and are the owners of the territorial waters. So the government does own the oil and can grant/deny the privilege of extracting it and get taxes.
And what makes you think that jobs will move south, and not north? The SNP is clear, the £ will remain till people vote otherwise, which I doubt.
MSfeller 1 month ago
@MSfeller
The £ is the UK currency, Scotland would not have the right to use it if they left the UK. Do you think Argentina could just start using the £? No they couldn't, you are not allowed to use the currency of another country.
The public sector jobs, ship building, nhs, military and so on are UK public sector jobs, do you really think they will stay in Scotland if Scotland is not even in the UK? Well no they wouldn't, they would be moved to NI, Wales or England
Why do Scots not know this?
eurosceptic1 1 month ago
@eurosceptic1 Didn't realize that the pound was now a copyright issue that we were not "allowed to use". I guess that the Irish pound didn't exist before the Euro, it was nothing but a figment of our imagination, huh?
Please, provide valid arguments or don't bother replying.
Even if your argument was valid, I'd still take the € rather than your £ under subjugation. After all, right now we are subjugated to the UK and the EU. At least an Independent Scotland is under EU only.
MSfeller 1 month ago
@MSfeller
As I have already said, you couldn't just 'take' the Euro, you (Scotland) would have to be a member of the EU under Scotland, not as a part of the UK. In order to do that you have to apply to be a member but that takes a long time (10 years usually)
You could have a Scottish £ but it would be very different to the British £, it would need to look different and it would be put on the exchange on it's own merit. The Aussies and the Americans both use the $ but they are very different
eurosceptic1 1 month ago
@eurosceptic1 That don't bother me. A "new" (I quote new as the Scottish saltire alone is older than England as a state) country, we will need to issue our own currency. US, CN, NZ, AU, yes, all have dollars and they issue it themselves. Yes, all this will take a while. Those should be decisions for an Independent Scotland to make.
As for visas, please... Swiss, Norwegians, etc, are not EU citizens and need no visa here. There's EEA besides the EU (since UK is not Schengen)
MSfeller 1 month ago
@MSfeller it seems to me that Scots know very little about the real issues of independence and most of what they think about independence comes from watching Braveheart 23 times.
Sad but true,
eurosceptic1 1 month ago
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Oder1001 1 month ago
@eurosceptic1 You Unionists sound ridiculous and very repetitive by mentioning Braveheart again and again, and Mel Gibson. Don't patronize me, or our country. I doubt you even know how many historical inaccuracies are in that movie, just that there are 'cause you "heard around". Typical condescending, talking down pompous attitude towards us by patronizing Scots as idiots that want independence due a movie. Grow up, man, this is not a football match, it's our country's future.
MSfeller 1 month ago
@MSfeller Of course you can have the pound but not the pound based on the bank of engalnd. Effectivley your own currency. Plus Its stated Scotland will take 30% of british debt and also rbs bank will be your full responsability rather than the english tax payer. All royal navy raf and army bases will be relocated to England, As Scotland will not be a member of the eu all scottish nations working in engand will have to apply for a visa to work here, if not returned to scotland.
steve1mufc 1 month ago
@eurosceptic1 The trouble with scotland is that its full of scots. The absoloute cheek. They think they have the right to retain the english pound, and automatic entry to the EU. LOL, a population of 6 million will have no chance. The other thing i hear is the oil revenue. Well how can you put a claim on North sea all without a navy. They also think they have the right to retain the nhs and public sector. What planet are they on.
steve1mufc 1 month ago
@steve1mufc English pound laddie? I suggest research the bank of England it was created by a Scot, the Pound Sterling also,since we are 8.9% of the UK population the assets including the navy 8.9% is ours and yes we will take our equal share of the national debt none of us wish to cheat England the NHS in Scotland has nothing to do with you anyway don't believe the crap you are paying for us.if it were true the unionists will not want to hang on to us England keeps nothing if it costs money.
Oder1001 1 month ago
@Oder1001 doesnt matter who created it, the bank of england have already stated they intend not to allow the scots to use pound sterling. It will have to be an indapendent currency. Also Scotland will not be an eu country so you will not even have the euro. I understand oil will be split 50%, although most of the wells have been exhausted now anyway. Its stated scotland can not retain any of the armed forces and will have to start there own indapendent scottish armed forces.
steve1mufc 1 month ago
@steve1mufc so an English bank decides we don't have a currency and England decide they will help themselves to 50% Scottish resources,as most of the wells are dry we will have anyway typical English attitude, a new Scottish military would be established the serving men and women can stay or join the Scottish forces at England's pleasure,England mucked up our regiments in the British army and reduced it to bits of regiments thrown all together.English government Scots regiments don`t need
Oder1001 1 month ago
@Oder1001 You forgot to mention RBS debt aswell. Being a scottish bank this will be scotlands responsability. Your living on cloud cookoo land if you think a population of 6 million can support a welfare state. What about the millions of scottish workers in england, without eu staus they will have to return to scotland. Surely breaking away from a country of englands magnitude with a population near on 60 million can only be a bad thing. It's unconstatutional will never happen.
steve1mufc 1 month ago
@steve1mufc I forgot nothing RBS does 90% of its trading England and through London control by a British Government, apart from its name its dubious how Scottish it is but I am sure we will take an equal amount.dozens of countries around the world with population less than six million or are you saying because we are Scots we can`t make it?
unconstitutional? you talk more nonsense the Articles of Union state if the people vote to leave the Union we can do so, suggest you and Cameron read them.
Oder1001 1 month ago
Even unionist journalists for The Guardian have recognized that our independence is inevitable. With that and recent polls showing that -for the first time in Scotland and the UK as a whole- support for Independence is gaining momentum. But with Salmond at the helm and the Tories in London, I don't think we've got much to worry about.
EqualityScotland 4 months ago
Scotland - the country that led the first industrial revolution and will a make a major contribution to the next one.
Scotland is the best country in the world for investment in infinite renewable energy. Companies all over the world have already invested in the Scottish resources movement.
It's a valuable future asset.
The unionist media will spread as much lies as they can to discourage the Scots from voting for independence as using Scotland for it's resources is what they really want.
segano1 4 months ago 3
Thank you Russia Today for displaying a balance that the BBC is incapable of, regarding this issue.
Scotland's independence, and its right to existence, is coming.
scotchprofessor 4 months ago 16
@scotchprofessor
I hope England is free from Scotland.
mwillis1000 3 months ago
@mwillis1000 Maybe you could explain or at least expand on your comment...
scotchprofessor 3 months ago
@scotchprofessor
Well, the country this union is least fair on is England. Also, this union was made by Scotland, you started it and now want out, LOL
mwillis1000 3 months ago
@scotchprofessor It's not going to happen. It's well known support in Scotland simply is not big enough. I don't understand why we would want to become like Ireland either! Rule britannia!
ConConzz 2 months ago
@ConConzz We will not be like Ireland, we will be Scotland.
YES FOR INDEPENDENCE.
SCO190 2 months ago
@scotchprofessor Criticize news media who don't believe in you. Trust me the BBC is on the same reliability to that of Russia Today. You can't judge media because they don't happen to agree with your insane thoughts of destroying the union. I'm Welsh, and personally I detest the SNP, bunch of nationalist chest pounding gorillas. I know I'm going to get thumbs down on this, but all the SNP represents is the bad part of humanity. Nationalism. Nationalism which causes humanity to go backwards.
BritzProd 2 months ago
@BritzProd There is so much wrong with this statement I don't know where to begin. Let's first say that nationalism is NOT what has caused humanity to go backwards, but the total opposite direction. If you knew anything about the history of invention and discovery in the fields of math and science, you would know that it was all most productive under nationalist governments. Second, there is nothing wrong and certainly not "insane" with the notion of dissolving the union.
Midvinterblot542 1 month ago
@Midvinterblot542 Oh to you there is. And how is it that nationalism helps people go forward? Nationalism by the way, is what started world war one. Doesn't change my opinion, still just a bunch of nationalistic chest pounding gorillas. Not to mention, nationalism gives people the thought that the other countries are
inferior, that they are better, when at the end of the day, they are exactly the same human being. Nationalism is nothing more then a poison for you people to drink. So drink up.
BritzProd 1 month ago
@BritzProd That may be your definition of nationalism, but it's certainly not mine. Many people like yourself have no faith in nationalism due to the idea of ethnocentrism. I believe a people can be proud of their kin and heritage, yet still maintain cultural enlightenment by viewing their neighbors as different and unique, yet respect them as equals.
Midvinterblot542 1 month ago
Okay that seems reasonable to me. But I still rather much see the next century, Britain United, not divided.
BritzProd 1 month ago
@BritzProd but britain is much older than the english culture forced on it......we are all brothers but under foriegn cultures
3tangle3 1 month ago
@BritzProd The only thing that seems "insane" here is your immense fear of change.
Midvinterblot542 1 month ago
@scotchprofessor lol the bank of england have stated scotland will not retain sterling and Brussels have announced that you will not automatically gain entry into the E.U as the snp stated. Plus RBS will be taken from our hands and the scots will take 30% of British national debt. With englands population and infastructure we will not see any change really but scotland will end up like Greece begging the English for money just like the Irish on the last bail out. Good riddence.
steve1mufc 1 month ago
@steve1mufc 30% of the national debt for 8,9 % of the population? have you ever wondered why people use the term Perfidious Albion? it seems to reach a fair agreement is beyond principle,begging the English for money that we will never do, don`t speak for Europe England/UK are a none event in it. If we leave we save you money you should be happy not angry.
Oder1001 1 month ago