Macedonia - 4000 years of Albanian continuance (Video that shocked both Greece & FYROM)

[AVDULAI]

te lumte

[jetaimejt]

I would recommend Greeks and Albanians to work together. About those greeks who think bad about us Albanians, think who helped you vs persians, ottomans, huge crises in the past decades and even now we are helping Greece with its economy by working hard in your country and even Albania with its budget has helped greece with its crisis. If Greece continues to wage racism towards its own relatives, one day we will turn our back, and slavs will slaughter both of us. Greetings from Dardania !!

[jetaimejt]

Illyrians and Greeks are relatives. The blood of Greek and Albanian is the same in genetics, but now we are not talking here silly about Albanians Vs Greeks, because you would not put two relatives on a topic, rather but intruders, who are the slavs. At the moment slavs have Macedonia and they stole Macedonia as well as the whole illyrian land, leaving Albanians with only 10% land. If you look history well and you understand it, you will see globalisation is destroying every civilization.

[MrAlban1912]

Albanians is Illyrian

[shockolanu]

Macedonians were Illyrians?

Why would the ancient Macedonians have fought the Illyrians for hundreds of years, protecting the rest of Greece of Illyrian invasions if they themselves were Illyrians?

Silly.

[Rudaki5]

So far I didnt see any connections with Pamirians

[Rudaki5]

So far I didnt see any connections with Pamirians



[SBarcaS]

Aegean Macedonia was conquered by Greece. It has been a subject of colonized policies in the ground that thousands of Asiatic Greeks were settled after 1913. Prior to that, Macedonia was inhabited chiefly by the Slavs, Vlachs, Turks and Albanians in its western environs.

[SBarcaS]

The Greek nationalist policy sponsored political campaigns to prove the Hellenicity of ancient Macedones. Your policy erected statues and symbols to associate Greeks with the Macedonians. This does not hold any water because the written sources in addition with the amount of archeological discoveries are in our side. Macedonia may it be Greek...only in your fantasies!!!!

[thegreathistorian7]

@SBarcaS the archaeological evidence show they were Hellenic, only the Macedonian dialect, this is what it looked like, very greek indeed: βάσκιοι ἄδραια Ἀέροπες ἐσκόροδος or Attic or Koine Greek (by Alexanders time and the entire Hellenistic period) found in Pella no gjuha shqipe or македонски јазик, only Greek Culture spead by Alexander, not Albanian or Slavic.

Im sorry but reality does you no favors, now please respond with fallacious reasoning, Pseudo-genetics and Demosthenes! hahahahaha

[SBarcaS]

@thegreathistorian7 Are you freaking kidding to me? You seem to be not enough informed about the amount of discoveries in Macedonia. Greek archaeologists found a marble stele where it is obviously written in Greek: η μακεδονια ειναι ελληνικη. According to them, this the brightest proof about the Hellenicity of old Macedonians. While other Greek scientist have found some fosilized dung of Philip. The thorough analysis in the laboratories have reveal the Greek ADN. hhahahahahahahahahaha

[thegreathistorian7]

@SBarcaS and nothing has been found to link Slavs to Ancient Macedonians.

nothing.

[SBarcaS]

@thegreathistorian7 Who gives a shit for Slavs. Of course they have not slightest tie with ancient Macedonians. All what they are actually doing is having pride with something that is not theirs. They may imagine themselves as they wish but its too hard to them to separate themselves from Bulgarian ruts.

[mkosumi]

@SBarcaS o la la, you telling what greeks found????? come on greeks say even for black people that they are greek. come on greeks dont live in this earths life, they live in dreams. they cant be at the same time greeks and macedonians, but for sure they can be gypsies

[thegreathistorian7]

up until very recently the status quo of Hellenic history is what it always has been, Macedon belongs to the Greek's they are the people who have lived there since antiquity the people who are ethnically, linguistically and culturally decedent from them and have lived their continuously since its formation. Only recently has the revisionist Skopians and people like you tried to claim that history and until you substantiate that claim there is no need to take you seriously.

[SBarcaS]

@thegreathistorian7 you can't be serious, dude! Get it through your thick head: from the XV century onwards, historians have constantly claimed Macedonians as non-Greeks, i.e akin to either Illyrians and Thracians. The difference between them were actually very thin and ancients applied to them the term 'barbarian'. The mainstream of historians agreed on non-Greacity of the Macedonians, until some Greek nationalist in 1990 onwards tried to turn them in Greeks

[thegreathistorian7]

@SBarcaS every single university in the west says different.

[thegreathistorian7]

@SBarcaS the macedonians spoke greek, worshiped greek gods, were descendant from proto-greeks, had greek kings, has greek culture, wrote in greek and even alexander declared himself greek, all the evidence of the world shows they were greek, all the opposition has is quotes from Demosthenes and pseudo genetics.

[MrLadrocuori]

pelasgians illirians macedonians epirus dardanians dalmacians albanians etnik illirians

[orionasGR7]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha­hahaha..... Albanian continuance???? Even the name MAcedonia has no meaning in your language (and how could has since you spoke a satem language and Macedonians spoke a Greek dialect which was centum). Also there is no trantion about Macedonian in your people contrary to us that we have legend from generation to generation about Alexander and his family! For the end there is not modern scientist or UNIVERSITY to support a connection between ancient Macedonians and u

[Ferizajcity]

Admin, why you dont use albanian Music? Music me fyellgjat, musik me laut, me klarinet, music kabaze, permetare, shkodrane....

[Ferizajcity]

"The" albaniens hase 1000 Names in the History, thej are the oldest People in Europa end the only one athochthone / Native People.

Its a wonder that the albanian languag and albanian cultur does exist still today, the albanians are the historybook from the last 7000 years in Europe and middlesea.

[GOLDMINE8]

" in their mode of cutting the hair, in their COSTUME, and in their LANGUAGE, the EPIROTES resembled the MACEDONIANS, who were an ILLYRIAN race " [STRABO.327]

[Basazotti]

Greek & Serbian joke propaganda can be destroyed with simple facts. The so called slovadonian language is bulgarian. Written by a Serbian typewriter. Ok modern greek cunt.

[Basazotti]

Dose gay Greeks have some kind of national arvaniti day? So to honor them. If not what a shame.

[Basazotti]

Albanian is a pre Greek language.

[Basazotti]

Albanian is a pre Greek language. You cunt.

[Basazotti]

Albanian is pre greek language you cunt.

[Basazotti]

All Greek mytholoy. Can only be translated through Albanian language. The Slavs of fyrom. Your language names tradition culture music are all Slavic. How pathetic. Lolski.

[Basazotti]

I will explain you some facts with our more powerfull gun the albanian language. Go ask professor this. Is Athena greek? (E- thena) simply means ( speech) this is your greek capital with Albanian correct meaning. Of the word. Now bark like a dog.

[GemistusPletho]

@Basazotti

You retarded? (or even an Albanian?) Most Albanians I know aren't retarded. They tend to be friendly people but like in every nation their are retarded fascists. (including Greece and Albania unfortunately)

Why don't you put your theories to the test and produce physical evidence of a language other than koine or attic Greek on ancient Macedonian artifacts?

[Basazotti]

Albanian oldest Language in europe. Not gay Greek not Latin. And not fucking vampire Slavic.

[Basazotti]

Greek it's not even tribe of ancient hellens. But one thing you can't escape ALBANOI it's illyian tribe. Greek identiy is based off the albanian heritage & culture. Your fakinss betrayes you.

[Basazotti]

Listen up gypsys. Albanian speak a language that dates back to illyian to pellasgians. Etc. Gay Greek is modern. Slavs dont even have a language of their own. One thing they can't steal language.

[GemistusPletho]

@Basazotti

Listen up greek hating racists idiot.. instead of spewing gibberish ..... why not test your theory out and see how well you stack up against a 14 year old Greek girl in reading 2400 year old Macedonians artifacts (all written in either Koine or Attic Greek). Why not try putting your money were you mouth is asshole.

[GemistusPletho]

People in every region mix with neighbours. So some Albanians are actually biologically related to ancient Greeks (including macedonians). They don't follow Hellenic culture and language though so in the end that makes them Albanians. This is perfectly fine but Its inaccurate to suggest Albanian culture and language is older than Hellenism (sort of like saying Christians are older than jews) . Even the word "Albanian" itself didn't exist back then.

[GemistusPletho]

If you are "macedonian" as you claim... why the heck wouldn't you want to use some dialect of your own ancestors.... Greek? Why wouldn't you self-identify as Greeks at the Olympics like ancient Macedonians did?

Claiming yourself Macedonians... without adopting Hellenic culture... is sort of like someone Islamic claiming their religion is Jewish.

[SBarcaS]

@GemistusPletho Let straight the things in their own order. To start with, Macedonians did not spoke Greek dialect, but Illyrian one, which is why most of ancient scholars reckoned Macedonian as an unintelligible language (barbarian). Macedonian contains a handful Greek words that were incorporated from either Greek colonies in Macedonia and hellenizing policies of Macedonian kings. Gjergj Kastrioti-Scanderbeg, the national hero of Albanians called himself Macedonian!

[GemistusPletho]

@SBarcaS

Open a book you ignorant Greek-hating jackass.

"The evidence for the language of the Macedonians has been reviewed and discussed by Kalleris and Hammond, Griffith, and many others, all contending that it was a dialect of Greek. The increasing volume of surviving public and private inscriptions makes it quite clear that there was no written language but Greek....."

[GemistusPletho]

@SBarcaS

"...here may be room for argument over spoken forms, or at least over local survivals of earlier occupancy, but it is hard to imagine what kind of authority might sustain that. There is no evidence for a different "Macedonian" language that cannot be as easily explained in terms of dialect or accent." - Cambridge Ancient Histories", Cambridge Univ. Press, 1998

[GemistusPletho]

For the record (for any Albanians reading this) I don't think all Albanians are ignorant Greek-hating racists like SBarcaS. In every country their are haters (including Greece). I am only defending myself against those haters. I have no problem with the vast majority of Albanians (decent people).

[SBarcaS]

@GemistusPletho You have not clue what are you talking about! I never celebrate any kind of racism toward our neighbors. I just protect my point of view, by revealing either ancient and modern sources. Is that racism?

[GemistusPletho]

@SBarcaS

Your POV view is based SOLELY on your racist nationalist desires rather than reality. if you were remotely objective you would first ask yourself what is an "Albanian" before worrying about Greeks. For instance, Do you believe such a thing as an Albanian race exists?

[GemistusPletho]

@SBarcaS

You call others "racist" but you are the racist as you are the one trying to steal someone else identity based on your quack perceptions of ethnic identity equals race. (like many that have a Nazi outlook to identity), This is not backed up by genetic research though. The fact is every ethnic group (no exceptions) is biologically mixed. Ethnic identity is identity attached to culture (language, customs, toponysm, etc,,,). Its not just substituting "Bulgarian" with "macedonian".

[GemistusPletho]

@SBarcaS

You are like an Arab trying to claim "Arabic" is "Hebrew" and pretending ancient Israelites were in the Arabic cultural sphere. This is historical nonsense. To be "Jewish" there has to be an attachment to jewish culture . Jewish is not a race its an identity. (and its the same with every identity) Your problem is you are a racist that thinks there is such a thing as national races.

[SBarcaS]

@GemistusPletho Ignorance at its greatest! You know absolutely nothing about ancient Macedones. How many times should I repeat myself: Macedonians were never Hellenes, which is why they were reckoned by Greeks as 'Barbarians'. This term was applied to describe all non-Greek tribes which live above northern boundaries of Greek world (Ambracia Gulf and Peneus river). The culture of Macedonians did not differ much from Illyrian one!

[GemistusPletho]

@SBarcaS

Don't make me laugh. You read a handful of quote minded out-of-context quotes by Demosthene and few others in times of conflict over a span of centuries (see Obama who according to birthers isn't a "real" American) and ignore the fact ancient Macedonians SELF-IDENTIFED as Greeks at the ancient Olympics? You ignore they spread Koine Greek everywhere they went? You ignore they spread Greek culture during the Hellenistic age?

Go fuck yourself your low life Greek hater.

[SBarcaS]

@GemistusPletho You're idiot with capital letters! You seem to pay no attention to the Herodotus's passage I brought up here. It's fine...it doesn't suit to your childish dream about Macedonians being Greeks :) When Irish emigrants went to 'America' they spread English language, but no one has suggested ever that they were English.Greeks didn't consider Macedonians as genuine Greeks.There are a plethora of information that point out the same thing: Greeks share nothing in common with Macedones

[thegreathistorian7]

@SBarcaS apart from language, culture, religion, names, alphabet, systems of government, lineage, myths and the list goes on

But then it would do when Macedon was Hellenic state just like Sparta and Athens or Epirus, stop trying to make out that the Macedonians were not Greek via a handful of snobbish quotes from Athenian orators and just look at the Archaeology- only Ancient Greek in Pella no gjuha shqipe or македонски јазик haha!

Macedon was blatantly Hellenic as all the evidence shows.

[thegreathistorian7]

@GemistusPletho yeah and Demosthenes was an orator who lived DURING Phillip II occupation of Athens (bias much?) and yes they ignore the fact that Alexander himself declared he was Hellenic.

These people are more of an embarrassment that the Skopjians!

[katsaprokos1]

YOU MONKEYS NEVER GOING TO BE MACEDONIANS THIEVS OF GREEK HISTORY.THE GREEK SPEECH IS THE SPEECH OF THE GODS.YOU HEARD LIKE ''CHA CHU CHE''WHEN YOU SPEEK BARBARIANS BARBARIANS.

[Basazotti]

Monkey you dont have history,culture,glory,pride,br­ain........

[Lupodemare]

facist idiot video, with a lie of history

[PETROS4PAP]

de tha gineis Ellinas pote....albaneeeee....albaneee­ee!!!!

[Basazotti]

Albanian oldest language in europe. Not gay Greek. Not Latin. And not fucking vampire Slavic.

[Lupodemare]

@Basazotti you are only a idiot. you know nothing over history. 

[GemistusPletho]

@Basazotti

If so then you should be able to read the Greek writing on ancient Macedonian artifacts.

[da1freak88]

this video is kinda wright but its vice verse, illiryans came from greek-makedonians and thracians not the other way round....but interesting video

[ALBPelasgian]

@alex007919 For example one of most famous of these bulshits is the stupid claim of Macedonians being Greeks!!!! hahahahahahah

[Arabastai]

@ALBPelasgian Well, they spoke Greek didn't they?

[YAUJTAwarrior]

@Arabastai GREEK was spoke everywhere cuz it was like english today,albanians spoke to greeks or other people in greek so they could understand each other,BUT i can proove you that macedonia the country was albanian and the macedonia greece is talking about is another thing,i can also explain you why greece does it

[GemistusPletho]

@ALBPelasgian

Open a book once and awhile that doesn't suit your nationalist propaganda..

"Men of Athens... In truth I would not tell it to you if I did not care so much for all Hellas (Greece); I myself am by ancient descent a Greek, and I would not willingly see Hellas change her freedom for slavery. " - Speech of Alexander I of Macedonia upon being admitted to the Olympic games as a self-identifying Greek, Herodotus, " Histories", 9.45, ed. A. D. Godley

[SBarcaS]

@GemistusPletho You cannot be that ignorant! Quoting pieces out of their content doesn't give any credit to you. Herodotus asserts that: "...when Alexander wished to contend in the games and had descended for this purpose into the arena, the Hellenes who were to run against him tried to exclude him, saying that the contest was not for Barbarians to contend in but for Hellenes" (V.22).

In order to be accepted in Olympic games, Alexander showed a fictive genealogy about his 'greekness'!!!

[GemistusPletho]

@SBarcaS

He wasn't the only one who competed clown. Do you grasp ancient Macedonians competed for CENTURIES. To compete in the ancient Olympic games one had to be accepted as a fellow Greek by other Greeks AND SELF-IDENTIFY as a Greek. (then of course there is that whole Hellenistic age that should be a :slight" clue)

Furthermore Instead of trying to disprove they were Greeks... why not for once produce a single quote where anyone in antiquity claims they are "Albanians"?

[GemistusPletho]

@SBarcaS

The reality is you are a fucking Greek hating racist. Your perceptions of identity revolve around quack racial theories (rather than also history, culture, language, geography, identity, education).

[GemistusPletho]

@SBarcaS

For instance, if you claim to be related to ancient Macedonians... why don't you want to speak some dialect of Greek like they did? Don't you want to "preserve" you proud culture by giving your cities Greek names like they did? Why don't you proudly call yourself Greek as they did?

You don't though. What you want to say is your "blood" is important because you are an insecure racist SOB. (that disrespects your own Albanian heritage by trying to take on our identity)

[GiannicTheGod]

@ALBPelasgian ΓΑΜΩ ΤΗΝ ΑΛΒΑΝΙΑ ΣΑΣ ΔΩΣΑΜΕ ΦΑΪ ΚΑΙ ΕΛΛΗΝΙΚΗ ΠΑΙΔΕΙΑ ΤΩΡΑ ΤΑ ΑΛΒΑΝΑΚΙΑ ΠΙΑΝΟΥΝ ΧΩΡΟ ΣΤΑ ΘΡΑΝΙΑ! ΠΕΙΤΕ ΣΤΙΣ ΜΑΝΕΣ ΣΑΣ ΝΑ ΚΑΘΑΡΙΖΟΥΝ ΚΑΙ ΚΑΜΙΑ ΠΟΥΤΣΑ ΠΕΡΑ ΑΠΟ ΣΠΙΤΙΑ ΜΗΠΩΣ ΒΓΑΛΟΥΝ 5 ΕΥΡΩ ΠΑΡΑ ΠΑΝΩ ΓΙΑ ΝΑ ΣΑΣ ΠΑΡΟΥΝ ΚΑΠΟΤΕΣ! ΘΕΛΟΥΝ ΝΑ ΒΓΟΥΝ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΕΣ ΟΙ ΑΛΒΑΝΕΣ! Ο ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ ΜΙΛΟΥΣΕ ΕΛΛΗΝΙΚΑ ΚΑΙ ΔΑΣΚΑΛΟΣ ΤΟΥ ΗΤΑΝ Ο ΕΛΛΗΝΑΣ ΦΙΛΟΣΟΦΟΣ ΑΡΙΣΤΟΤΕΛΗΣ. ΜΙΑ ΦΟΡΑ ΕΙΠΕ: ΕΥΧΑΡΙΣΤΩ ΤΟΥΣ ΘΕΟΥΣ ΠΟΥ ΓΕΝΝΗΘΗΚΑ ΕΛΛΗΝΑΣ. ΜΕΧΡΙ ΚΑΙ ΤΟ ΑΡΧΑΙΟ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΚΟ ΝΟΜΙΣΜΑ ΛΕΕΙ ΣΤΑ ΕΛΛΗΝΙΚΑ ΠΑΝΩ ΤΟΥ:ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΥ

[XxXJuLiAnOxXx19]

@GiannicTheGod Nai twra pane glupse ton putso ths germanias,agglias,voulgarias mpas kai bgalete kana xrhma na ksexreosetai gt 8a einai h mana s auth p 8a ka8arizei kapotes stous alvanous se ligo kairo.Me 6% auksish oikonomias ka8e xrono 8a er8eis esy metanasths alla 8a s biazoume thn mana ekei tsigane gamw to muni p se glistrage putanogennhma h mana s exw akousei kanei kales pipes ferthn apo edw kamia bolta

[GiannicTheGod]

@XxXJuLiAnOxXx19 esu pos ksereis ellinika ? ego dn exo logo na ma8o tn glossa sou AYTO SIMAINEI POS ZEIS ELLADA. an dn saresei pigaine stn xora sou. ke epeidi zeis ellada ksereis oti den ftaine oi ellines gia tin krisi FTAINE AYTI POU MAS KIVERNANE emas den mas edose kanenas lefta.. ola ta pernoun oi vouleutes. kai na sou po kati, i alvanida pou ka8arizei to spiti mou ein plu kali diavaze tin efimerida albania press kai mu eipe pos leei oti i alvniki ikonomia strizetai stn ELLADA gt edo douleute

[XxXJuLiAnOxXx19]

@GiannicTheGod Na kses kati oti stirizotan sthn ellhnikh oikonomia gt twra poia exei allous karpous oikonomias kai auth p diavaze thn efimerida gia na douleuei se spitia ti mualo exei pes m

[GiannicTheGod]

@XxXJuLiAnOxXx19 ti les re file??? oi misoi alvanoi eiste metanastes.... to nomisma to alvaniko, lek nomizo legetai, einai ena apo ta pio upotimimena nomismata. auta pou evgazan edo oi alvanoi stis oikodomes prin mas xreokopisoun oi ipourgoi, itan xrisa lefta gia tous siggeneis sas stin alvania pou tous ta stelnate.. mn mou les mlkies emena.. anastisame tn alvaniki oikonomia, stin italia otan pigan alvanoi me karavia oi italoi ta vouliaksan kai tous eipan na gurisoun kolimpodas, psakse to ligo.

[XxXJuLiAnOxXx19]

@GiannicTheGod Mporei na zoun merikoi alvanoi sthn ellada alla auto dn shmainei oti basizomaste se esas gt sthn ella 700 xiliades zoun eno sthn amerikh zoun 1,2 ekatommuria h sthn germania kai elvetia mazi zoun 700 xiliades opote thn exei blapsei elaxista...

[GiannicTheGod]

@XxXJuLiAnOxXx19 akou oi alvanoi proerxodai apo tus ilirious mia apo tis kales files stin arxaiotita alla o ka8enas me tn istoria tou.o megas aleksandros milouse ellinika kai oi arxaioi makedones to idio. o irodotos pu itn makedonas ts epoxis tu aleksandru egrapse ta pada st ellinika kai didaskontai pleon st ellinika sxoleia.i pella o topos gennisis tou alexandrou vrisketai stin ellada. oi makedones pisteuan stous ellines 12 8eous k o alexandros polemise tous perses gia na diadwsei ton ellinismo

[XxXJuLiAnOxXx19]

@GiannicTheGod O megas aleksandros dn eipa oti einai illyrios alla h mhtera t htan o pateras t htan makaidonas twra gia tous makaidones ean einai ellhnes dn kserw.Alla dn exei na kanei h grafh gt se ola ta valkania ellhnika grafotan einai opws twra me ta agglika.Ta ellhnika htan apo tis liges glwsses p grafontan

[GiannicTheGod]

@XxXJuLiAnOxXx19 nai omos o alexandros i8ele na diadosei ton ellinismo.. exo dei dokimanter sto history channel st agglika opou o alexandros eixe ftiakse ellinika 8eatra stin asia.. episis didaxtike elliniki polemiki texni to pagkratio ke o daskalos tou o aristotelis itan ellinas.. pisteue sto 128eo opou mono oi ellines pisteuan. episis mia fora eixe pei: "euxaristo tous 8eous pou genni8ika ellinas". an den me pisteueis psaksto... ego eimai dikaios se tetoia 8emata..

[Tolisakis97]

@ALBPelasgian hahaha they said so.:!!

i think they knew better than we do what they were..

and where the came from,right?dont you agree?

[unfukkkmee]

@No1zY93 WANNABE ALBO

[unfukkkmee]

MACEDONIA IS GREEK

ONLY

PARANOIA IS ALBANIA

[unfukkkmee]

PELASGIANS ARE GREEKS

@No1zY93 HEY ALBANIAN IF U CATCH U UR DEAD I FUCK UR ALBANIA TO DEATH

[SMYRNAfreedom]

Upon the conquest of Persia, The Greek King Alexander the Great sent to Athens 300 suits of Persian armour to the Athenian Parthenon, one of the most sacred Temples in all of Greece - the with the inscription: "Alexander, son of Philip and all Greeks except the Spartans, give these offerings taken from the foreigners who live in Asia." After returning from Asia, he restored the statues in Athens that were removed by the Persians.

"Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece". - Strabo

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[SMYRNAfreedom]

ISMAIL KEMAL 1901-2, About Makedonia, "Greeks do not want to violate the rights of the other nations, their attitude is just defensive. But the Bulgarian element is inspired by other intentions. It wants to be expanded in order to harm the Greek element in every means." ""Greeks just want to be protected from every violation of their historical and ethnological rights." ".. it is necessary the Greek element be supported in order to keep what they want to steal form the Greeks."

[SMYRNAfreedom]

EPIROS IS A FAMOUS GREEK HOMELAND - IT WAS CALLED VALLEY OF THE GREEKS BECAUSE OF ITS IMPORTANCE IN THE ORIGINS OF THE GREEKS

ILLYRIA IS A VERY OLD GREEK NAME FOR A REGION RULED BY GREEKS, FROM ILLYRIOS. THE ORIGINAL TRIBES HAD GREEK NAMES. AN ACTUAL ORIGINAL "ILLYRIAN" WOULD BE A GREEK -- LATER PEOPLES AND INVADERS CHANGED THE "ILLYRIAN" REGION AND MEANING.

MAKEDON IS A VERY OLD NAME FROM THE ORIGINS OF BEING GREEK.

GRKS ARE VERY OLD, MANY TRY TO DISTORT GREEK PLACES, NAMES HISTORY

[SMYRNAfreedom]

ALEXANDER I OF MAKEDON RULER OF MAKEDON PARTICIPATED IN THE OLYMPIC GAMES IN 504BC - AN HONOR RESERVED ONLY FOR GREEKS. HE WAS SON OF THE GREEKS NAMED AMYNTAS I KING OF MAKEDON AND EURYDICE.

ONLY A GREEK CAN BE A MACEDONIAN - MAKEDON FROM THE ORIGINS OF BEING GREEK AND HELLAS

[SMYRNAfreedom]

Makedonia is a Greek name and Greek homeland. Illyria is a Greek name for a region named and ruled by Greeks. Albanians were not in the region. 

Many radical Albanians try to make a false history using others' history, culture, lands. Albanians are very jealous of Greeks.

[dylanpodd]

Hahahahaha another parody of history:-)

No bad feelings

[zubero23]

[359-336 BC] Philip II (359-336 BC) raises Macedonia into the greatest European Power after subduing all of Macedonia's neighbors - Illyrians, Thracians, and Greeks. The Battle of Chaeronea where the Macedonians defeat the Greeks on August 2, 338 BC, marks an end of Greek history and the beginning of the Macedonian Era. The ancient Greek writer Theopompus declares Philip “the greatest man that Europe had ever given.”

[Ferizajcity]

@zubero23 read the writings of the ancient Greece authors.

[zenSk28]

let me put it like this: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA­HAHAHAHAHHAHHHAHHHAHHHAHHHAHHH­AHHHAHHHAHHHAHHHAHHHAHHHAH !

[hoplitespao]

When you talk about the macedonian you talked about the slavs of Fyrom?

I invite you to read "pella katadesmos" and try to translate also the inscripted stone that I gave you.

[benburi9]

@hoplitespao

If the statement transmited through the book of Tit Livius is correct, than I assure you that Macedonian was unintelligible, or not-understandable for the Greeks, since Thucydides In his book 3.94.4 claims the Aetolian language ἀγνωστότατοι, and thus as the result the same way should be Macedonian.

[ALBPelasgian]

Keep calm my Greek friends!

I said that Macedonian was an 'Illyrian' creole that contain Greek words, but in essence wasn't Greek, but Illyrian-Thracian. That's why ancients labeled Macedonian as uninteligible language that Greeks weren't able to understood. 'Barbarian' was the term which ancient writers used to mark the language of Macedonians. There are a considerable number of Macedonian toponymes and glossary that can be explain in Albanian. I'll present them in an another video!

[najdenov]

@ALBPelasgian so my friend if it is like u say, WHY CAN'T YOU UNDERSTAND THE ROZETA STONE 3RD LANGUAGE? you are ilirian i respect that! but is it necessary to do this. you want to be ancent macedonian? if you do, dont say you are ilirian. be satisfied with ilirian tribes. and if you dont like the IGENEA-s results you should think about it much more. i dont have anything against you, i dont know you, dont get me wrong. but greeks macedonians albanians and serbs are diferent people.. best regards

[najdenov]

@ALBPelasgian btw Nicola Chetta can not be albanian because of his name and surname ;) and BOGDANUS? is there a name BOGDAN in albanian?

NOOOOO!!!! BOG - GOD DAN- GAVEN (GODGIVEN) so please dont talk rubbish...

[ALBPelasgian]

@najdenov

Just make some research who was Pjeter Bogdani and Nikolle Keta. they were Albanian, they wrote in albanian...that's why all historical books present them as albanian. as for Rosseta Stone no serious foreign scholar has establish any link with present slavo-Macedonian. i know that some macedonian heritage is inherited by slavomacedonians of aegean macedonia, but "macedonians" of skopje, Veles and other eastern cities have nothing to do with ancient macedonians. do you get the point!

[YAUJTAwarrior]

@najdenov ur fucking crazy man bogdan was albanian!there are people whos names are RUSI,does this mean theyre russian????they were albanian!

[hoplitespao]

Totally ridiculous

Ancient Macedonians were Greeks and spoke Greeks.

Here is an exemple of writing used by ancient macedonians :

μακεδονιαρχων των ναων τη πατριδι συν παντι τω κοσμω τω θκτ' ετει

I m sure it will be esay for you (Albanians or Skopians) to translate the language of your suposed ancestors.

[benburi9]

@hoplitespao

Who told you that the above writing is ine the everyday language of a common Macedonian? And then who told you that the above language os Greek and only Greek?

[hoplitespao]

@benburi9

All populations (romans, phoeniciansn egyptians,...) who used greek as "lingua franca" had their (and we found it) own language and writtings. Now if you can explain to me why 0 inscriptions in slavic and albanian were found?

[ALBPelasgian]

@hoplitespao

Be patient for some time because I am preparing a new video that shows similarities between Macedonian and Albanian. Since you claim that no inscription has been found in Macedonia, tell me why glossary of Macedonian can be etymologized in Albanian. For instance, the word "βάσκιοι" has no meaning in modern Greek, while in Albanian is one of most used words in our language.

[benburi9]

@hoplitespao

Because what you call "Greek' is just a vehicular language, and not the language of the common people which was an old form of Albanian. Every single root of the ""Greek"", has a meaning in Albanian, which means that "Greek"" is a language created for writing purpose and based on Albanian.

[hoplitespao]

@benburi9 I think you take your dream for reality....

[hoplitespao]

here is an exemple about Alexander (according to your theory was half albanian) :

" There are Greek troops, to be sure, in Persian service but how different is their cause from ours ! They will be fighting for pay and not much of it at that; WE on the contrary shall fight for GREECE, and our hearts will be in it.

As for our FOREIGN troops Thracians, Paeonians, ILLYRIANS..."

(Arrian)

[benburi9]

@hoplitespao

since we have no proper tools to do quotes and to show all the information, we offer you to have the discussion in this forum arberiaonline. com

We think the topic is very intelectual, and deserves better display.

[hoplitespao]

@benburi9 Thanks...

[BlizzardRoach]

@hoplitespao dude .. you haven't got any knowledge in these things ... pelasgic, illyrian, etruscian = albanian

there are lots and lots of scripts found ... some of them even 6000 years old .. and we albanians can translate all of them ;) ... maybe not directly but within 20 minutes or so we can .. and i mean everybody who can speak good albanian ! not only scientists ! ...

[BlizzardRoach]

@hoplitespao And there are also word in your 'greek' which you can't translate .. but we can ;)

for example in ancient times alexanders ( who was macedonian-illyrian/greek ) soldiers used the 'sarrysa' to build the phalanx ... the sarrysa was a long spear .. can you translate it ?

NO !

but i can ;)

s' = prefix of 'nuk' which means 'not'

arrij = arrive, reach

sarrijsa = the not arrivable

that explains the length of the spear u ugly damn idiot :)

[benburi9]

@hoplitespao

And what about you, are you that kind of Greek that the Ancients used to be and why?

[manuso1]

Ancient Macedonia was French!