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  • Sonar x1 sucks ass...

  • @attractivefrenchguy , LOL. I personally don't use Cakewalk but it's just a tool. I know many very successful artists who use it and produce fantastic music. It has all the tools you would expect from any DAW. In fact, it has many features that the other DAW's don't have. Cakewalk has Sys Ex management which, say, Ableton Live does not. And many many other features. So I think you're just talking shit and i guarantee you don't know shit about producing music or DAW's.

  • @TheGrowdaddy So you are speaking from inexperience. You don't use it. I had it and sold it because it is riddled with bugs... and I got tired of using Win 7 on my mac. I went to Logic Pro. Works awesome. Just a tool? You are a tool.

  • can somebody help me? I am having weird problems with a Sonar 4 Producer Project 32 Bit opened in X1 64 and 32 Bit... crackling espacially in the bass etc ... does anybody know something about that? thank you so much!!

  • I need a new music production software. >.<) Sonar X1 is really good as far as i heard but i only use Sonar 3 so far. Anyone wanna help donate so I could get that program?! pm message me (^^)

  • yeah how exactly do you get to hear the metronome

  • This guy somehow reminds me of Reggie Watts... o.O

  • If am USING Sonar X1, would it be necessary to use a 32 track mixer? Can someone chem-in please

  • @aicentre1 It's ussually good to have a 32 track mixer if you are planning to do a lot of unique live recording. If you're aiming for digital, you normally just need a good digital mixer with a lot of mixer track so you could differentiate your sounds when you record.

  • @aicentre1 . No, X1 is your mixer. If you're doing live recordings or group performances then you would need to have an interface to connect your mics/instruments into sonar for a multitrack recording of just the raw audio. Mix it down in Sonar. You could use a mixer for the mixdown if you want..or a multitrack controller to mix it down in Sonar. But you don't need a mixing desk at all.

  • Thank you very much for the video. I can do everything else in sonar x1 but I dont know how to turn on and off the metronome! pLEASE HELP.... Bless.

  • it sucks i've tryed it for some minutes and i was ready to vomit.....too complicated nice interface but too fuckin' hard to use

  • @winnino

    This is a professional music creating software, obviously its not that easy. It took me weeks to understand it, because Its what I wanted to do. But if you already gave up on it then producing music isn´t for you.

  • Everything is messed up, we find nothing which one is used to SONAR 8.5

    It is getting more crowded and complicated.This was a step backwards.

  • Autumn6 can suck fat nuts haha...

  • caan u record on this?

  • you say cakewalk is garbage.but im sure you dont even know how to use it.

    its only probably to most popular daw on the market right now.for those with question about sonar x1 go to the cakewalk forums.were very friendly over there and there endless help.

  • i want to see how intuitive it is.

  • Cakewalk is garbage...

  • @Autumn6

    no more...

  • As long as it doesn't constantly crash like all the other versions it'll be alright...

  • How to enable rewire of sonar x1, my pc not enable see this link youtube.com/watch?v=Pe3-FviS6b­0

  • Good Idea....but this DAW is a buggy mess and can give you even more problems when you try to revert back to 8.5.3. A serious reinstall of 8.5.3 was necessary to get back to production. Nice idea but this release was very premature and needs a lot of work before it can be considered usable.

  • @PheonixRising3 EVERY version of Cakewalk is a buggy mess that constantly crashes....which is why nobody fucking uses it...

  • The interface on Sonar X1 is to die for, however be wary about upgrading now, or if you plan to purchase soon. Sonar X1 is buggy as I'll get out, and the "fix" that's out reeks havak on ASIO drivers. There's another "fix" for the ASIO problem, that I have been unable to get to work.

    Bottom line, once they work out the bugs, this is IMO the most flexible and full featured DAW on the market. The problem is that this is nowhere close to market ready.

  • Why didn't you guys SHOW the actual context driven part of the interface that would show how it works faster and presummably faster? I'm not trying to be overly critical here, but so far just about all DAWs have failed at being truly streamlined in usage compared to hardware work-flows. It basically means software drowns its user in features, but forgets all about the actual work-flow. Things should be hands-on and dedicated, not all over the floor and require months of training to remember. :-)

  • its a beast for me its beter than reason , logic ect.

    simple to use and enour. amount of power

  • I remember taking a cakewalk for dos manual with me to bed at night to study many years ago. While others were working with consoles tiny hardware displays and tons of wires cakewalk was way ahead of the curve. Now that PC's have really come of age with 64 bit chips all those years of learning this software is paying off big time.

  • I've been using Cakewalk products fro some time and the sound you record in is the sound your DAW will plays back. Sonar is a powerful program, priced right and you don't need proprietary hardware to use it. I use an FA101 by Edirol, Fostex Monitors and an XPS 420 quadcore computer which gives me all the juice I need to work my projects. And you're right, you dont want to wait until college to get into modern recording, you'll be behind the pack. Spend the hours learning the basics now.

  • So i Know nothing about recording software but have been in need to record and im very picky about my bass guitar tone and my guitarists are exremely picky about their tone. So does this software stand well with very heavy distorted guitars as such a guitar sound as a band called "Animals As Leaders" or styles like Djent. Also is there any lesson courses on using any software in general? I dont want to wait for college to get such courses.

  • Hey, have you guys seen the new Windows 7 equipped StudioBLADE keyboard production center? Its perfect for running all of your Windows compatible software and plugins! Check out the videos on our chanel by clicking the link below!

  • @musiccomputing Thats a great question and I too would like to know.

  • @blrrr23 - What's the question?

  • @musiccomputing Will it blend? That is the question!

  • @naz10000 - We've seen those videos and we have come to the conclusion that if there was a big enough blender...it WILL in fact, blend.

  • @musiccomputing : Perfect answer :)

  • Can you import video in Sonar Eseential?

  • No, its not brandon.. it's john, john petrucci.. nice new version. good work cakewalk..

  • I really hope they got V-Vocal to be less buggy this time around. I'm a dedicated Sonar user and I LOVE what V-Vocal can do but I hate 1) Unfreezing a track to find all the V-Vocal tracks within it to be bypassed sometimes and 2) Unfreezing a track to find that a V-Vocal clip is receiving no signal at all, and I have to re-create the clip from the muted original.

    And right now in 8.5 and prior Audiosnap is kind of a mess, both in how you control it and in its sonic results when used.

  • Great I'm getting away from logics paper sound I think theirs something to sonar no other daw has sound-wise any way or it might be me

  • does Sonik Synth 2 work with it?

  • @Joeteck It should if it's a plug in. or direct x

  • nice an 1176 and ssl (if I'm not mistaken) inspired compressors that looks really interesting

  • It looks like some interface improvements were inspired by other DAWs, but I think it was needed. Sonar is great and seeing these improvements might get people who use other DAWs to switch to Sonar. Sonar has V-Vocal, a step sequencer, great sounds and great effects. This is the icing on the CAKE right now.

  • Yeah, yeah, but does Audiosnap actually work yet??????????????

  • It's emo Riker from Star Trek. Just kidding love Sonar and have used it since Sonar 2.

  • sonar is the most complete and mature DAW in the market.

  • Does anyone know how to upload a video without loosing quality on youtube? I'm referring to audio quality.

  • @BJJcovers Yeah. Record it with your phone.

  • Great so they copied the digital user interface of logic

  • I still have doubts about only focusing on the UI and not on the real features of the software...

  • @Fantasma25 then what exactly are the "real features"?

  • @cheapspace For example, I would like to rout channels in any way I want (as I do with ProTools). When I try to rout the audio of a midi track that has a very heavy virtual instrument (so that I can have more RAM available for more virtual instruments), it automatically transforms the audio track to another MIDI track. If there is a way for that not to happen, I havn't discover it yet. What I tried to say here is that for a new name, they should have done more than just upgrading the UI.

  • How does it sound? is it Phat sounding now being thaT it got a new channel and bus compressor,is it musical? like to see a video of it in action. I have Logic 9 and this looks Hot!

  • I'd stick with logic dude.. It seems like this sonar ripped off logic's user interface.. I make awesome sounding recordings with logic and editing is a breeze.

  • This would be perfect if there was an audio for video feature *hint hint*

  • finally a more ergonomic environment. can't wait to check out the demo!

  • Great review, Sonar X1 looks awesome!

    

  • Also ProTools 8 was redesigned with many picks on Sonar's flexibility and interface. I love ProTools and Sonar as well, way better than Cubase etc... Live and Fruity Loops are great softwares but the purpose is slightly different.

  • It's an amazing release no doubt, people who used to work on consoles in real studios knows how cool some of these new features are, the console is redesigned on classic Solid State Logic channels which is something I always dreamed in a DAW: a compressor/eq/tube saturator by default on every single channel. Yes the browser and plugs drag n drop feature reminds to PreSonus Studio One but so what? It's a good feature.

  • It does look way better than previous releases, but there is no way I will replace Cubase by this.

  • Those workflow enhances will definately speed mixing for me for sure looks great!

  • You have a browser on the side where you can drag things into the main window. You can put the windows wherever you like. You can change around the transport bar at the top.

    So its finally able to do what Fruity Loops has been doing for the last decade. Well done. I'll stick to Live thanks. Seriously did they do focus groups where peoples most requested feature was the ability to move windows around and dock them?

  • Do you have any information for video? Any new features and additions?

  • did he say he "have to be here" or "happy to be here" :D Yeah, based on that presentation it seems that you really have to focus on the interface - and not the music. Go Ableton Live with its clean interface.

  • @kb1629

    happy to be here.

  • good review, new sonar looks good.... :-)

  • They are Genelec 1029A active monitors, quite old, the new ones have a more rounded look.

  • Excellent first look! Sonar keeps amazing me! I would like to know which Studio Monitors are conected to the laptop! Thank you very much!!

  • Lots of good stuff i especially like the way things are movable but I can't help seeing the influence of ableton. Not that that's a bad thing.

  • actually looks like presonus studio one. a bit. ;) thanx for review

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