If the whales had nothing else to eat other than penguins, why didn't they just go after the camera man? Penguins= swimming 20+ mph.... Camera Man= SITTING DUCK! :D
Has anyone noticed that at 1:18 there is a seagull that doesn't react at all when the orca attacked the penguin ? It like happen literally right beside it LOL
All I want to ask is how the fuck do they get so close without dying? I got to give props to that those cameraman, they freaken have guts to to those things just that we'd like it.
I see it differently, Sara. All sociobiological threory should be shaped by the law of parsimony. What is most likely true, is usually true. So if a shark attacks and consumes a person's limb- the most plausible explanation or "cause" of predation is hunger. To characterize me saying "gee, we can never know" when I point out that the "experts" that attribute shark attacks to "mistaken identity" or "territorial response" are misguided is, well, also misguided. I'm saying they are wrong.
Sorry, that list is a joke. A primate (#11) is listed lower than a spider, birds and dogs? Also, it is widely known that pigs are smarter than dogs...and the aforementioned species. As far as "common" chimps go, never heard of that term- if you mean "non-bonobo" chimps, bonobos are also purportedly smarter than "common" chimps. Notwithstanding the fact the Octopus is the world's smartest invertebrate, it does not have an advanced cerebral cortex like higher order mammals (bears).
Just because you didn't create the list doesn't mean you (1) aren't an idiot for posting on so many threads given its obvious inaccuracy and (2) a simpleton for asking people to "look it up".
Hmm.
Do you get a penny for every "search" to view the "source" of your info? I fancy.
@CrazyTaisy Maybe it would've been 13th. i didn't make the list, or i would've had gorillas on it. Like these other animals, they also use deductive reasoning and creative problem solving AND tools.
@GordonFreeMANness You make very little sense. But anyway, 1) i didn't make up that list 2) Nobody said "in that order" 3) YOU couldn't make it onto this list ☺
On 10/15/2011 GordonFreeMANness said: "MINUS. For the CC bullshit. Because of the cc and kg facts. R&C dumber than dogs? They're smarter than "great" apes!! Google it! E - 4th, but BN D & O - 2nd place? AE - up to 9 kg + thicker cortex than men, BD - 1700-1800 g. Orca - 6 kg. +More convoluted hemispheres. => CC - 1st? WTF?! Are you an idiot?! That's what you've been taught in school? Even O and G are smarter than both bonobos and CC. Oh, wait! Spider is smarter than a monkey?! PC-FACE!! XD"
I don't get why are u ppl going "DON'T KILL THE PENGUINS!" it's not like orcas can go to a shop and buy some meat u know. Predators are only successful in 1 of 10 hunts and if they don't practice of watch they won't survive.
@mrsotter19 There is a video of a pod seperating a baby whale (of another kind, though I forget which) from its mother and drowning it. Then they nibble it a bit and move on, having killed it only for the practice. In fact, I did not see any whales eat the penguin they just killed in the video. I assume they were, again, just practicing. A similar instance shows bottlenose dolphins killing another porpoise just because it was around. Maybe they don't kill for money, but they're little better.
Actually, the pod of Killer Whales drowned the Gray Whale calf and ate its tongue. It was not for practice. As for Killer Whales killing dolphins and porpoises, if they don't eat them (which transients will do), they are killing a competitor.
@kmkfiction2 They WERE practicing and could have eaten the animal if they had chosen to do so. They didn't. They drowned a baby whale while its mother watched and cried. And read my post again. I said a pod of bottlenose dolphins killed A porpoise--not orcas. And this was in a time when food levels were fine. The film is odd for that and because the behavior had never before been seen in dolphins (in general). A group of whale watchers saw/filmed the event and thought it was play at first.
@SaraDiva001 It seems disingenuous for you to infer that "they WERE practicing and could have eaten the animal if they had chosen to do so", as if, in the end, a baby Gray Whale tongue is not a delicacy. As for your other point, "And this is when food levels were fine"...that is a laughable point. And you know the changing marine ecosystem's available resources...how precisely?
@SaraDiva001 Second thing. You incorrectly presuppose that Gray Whale calf tongue is not a delicacy to these highly intelligent creatures. You have no idea what Killer Whales think, much less what these Killer Whales' motives were. Your statement that "they WERE practicing and could have eaten the animal if they had chosen to do so" is a non sequitur. As for the notion you have any insight into when "food levels are fine" in the marine ecosystem is laughable. Says you? Silly speculation, Sara.
@SaraDiva001 Interesting. I imagine these orcas were teaching younger members. Also I have seen orcas hunt sharks for their liver (I imagine it is quite nutritious) but leave the rest of the animal untouched. I don't know about dolphins but maybe they kill other dolphins to protect hunting territories?
@mrsotter19 The whales were practicing and they drowned the calf while it's mother cried for it nearby. They weren't hungry either, so they ate a bit and left it. They could have eaten the calf if they'd desired to. As for the dolphins, the vid was considered amazing because the behaviour had never been seen in them before. Whale watchers were filming the event and thought they were playing at first. There wasn't a shortage of food. They just came across it, chased it down, and killed it.
How do you know that the Killer Whales weren't just being violently aggressive? Why do they drag pinnipeds out to sea off Patagonia and beat them savagely? There is no "explanation" and I find your "practice" theory here to be unpersuasive.
@kmkfiction2 Hm. I was trying to give examples of animals that killed for no reason and almost destroyed my own cause by giving the whales a reason. Then you came with: "How do you know that the Killer Whales weren't just being violently aggressive?" Thank you for the correction. That could have been embarrasing. Secondly, I did not assume that there wasn't a food shortage. Scientist who study marine life and their ecosystems did. They also claimed the orcas were practicing. Like they know!
They know as much as the Dog Whisperer allegedly "knows" the reason your dog isn't house trained.
They know as much as Ralph Collier purportedly "knows" the White shark that attacked and killed our family vet, David Martin, "was pregnant and attacked the swimmer because the shark was ready to give birth."
Say, know an Iraqi bridge that is for sale. You sound like a buyer.
@kmkfiction2 1) Does he not house train the dog for them? Does his method, whatever it is, not work to make the dog behave? I believe in results.
2) What does a pregnant shark have to do with your vet? I wouldn't care if a damned house fell on him or his C.O.D. were a mob hit. A person has died. You're going to be bitter to some guy about a shark? Lives are worth more than words, Fiction.
3) All this you've spouted about whale behavior and I need to buy a bridge? What, one of yours?
No, princess, "experts" in various fields are not conclusive on all points of knowledge, especially when "testifying" for the creatures they "specialize" in. So, just as the Dog Whisperer might posit "your dog peed on the floor because of his diet", it could be retaliatory for leaving to work. Ralph Collier can theorize a White shark ate our vet "because of pre-birthing territorial response", despite the fact White sharks have never even been seen giving birth. It's all BS.
@kmkfiction2 True, experts are not. They study behaviors and findings gathered for years to come to a common sense conclussion made present fact by testing, testing and retesting. That's why the dog no longer pees on the floor when the Dog Whisperer is done. As for your shark, I don't know if the man is right, just as you have no idea if the man is wrong. And that's according to your theory of, "Gee, we can never really know--can we?"
U are trying to add credence to your speculative assertion that the Orcas killed the baby Gray Whale for "practice" because that's what the experts say. Sorry, they ATE the Gray Whale calf's tongue. There was a direct caloric benefit from the energy expended. As such, your speculation that, well, the Orcas killed the Gray Whale calf for "practice" is as shortsighted as saying the one that ate the White shark liver killed it for practice, i.e., b/c it didn't eat the whole item.
I find it humorous that you can understand Orcas are intelligent and refined enough to kill a White shark JUST for its nutritious liver...but not enough to kill a Gray Whale calf for its soft, delicate tongue? Puzzling.
@kmkfiction2 Fine. If I say that in both instances they were just practicing, what could you say then? Who says the liver is nutrutious to the whales. Did the experts? How do you know they weren't practiving? Experts say that? How do you know they never eat the sharks? Experts never tape it for you? Please, enlighten me. What is your source of info? 'I find your"[who could ever really know]" theory here to be unpersuasive.'
Why are you are imputing a "who could ever really know" straw man argument to me? Orcas are well documented for killing prey and eating only one part. I am sayng they are intending to do the act to realize the result. You are saying they are doing the act for some ulterior purpose, i.e., practice. If you are going to debate, at least argue against what I'm saying. Tell me, why can it not be what it seems? Why can't it be that the Orcas killed the calf, at the tongue and left.
@kmkfiction2 *You're saying experts don't know, then turn to their documentation to prove it?* Anyway, I've done a rewind and realized that I should be agreeing with you. Experts are idiots who don't know spit from shit. So the whales killed the baby for nothing, just as humans cut the fins off of sharks and toss them into the sea to drown for nothing. Ergo, my original point that humans are not the only creatures that can kill for nothing is made and I have two prime examples. Thanks buddy.
What is increasingly obvious to me is that each scientist has a natural inclination to proffer complex explanations when the most wasteful part of Nature displays itself. How did that quote go? "God made everything out of Nothing, but the nothingness shines through." Take care.
@SaraDiva001 How sad for the mummy whale. I can tell you that as a mum I would have died defending my baby. However, it is wrong to assign human feeling to wild animals. They are the way they are. They practice hunting, just as the military blows up dummy target to get ready for real combat. Nobody said nature's way was gentle. However harsh all this hunting seems it is not as sad as killing for money, or simply because the killer was drunk or on drugs.
@mrsotter19 Maybe they don't feel as strongly or as wide a range as we, but animals can feel. Wild and domestic. That's why you can sympathize the whale's loss. People can have more kids just as easily as animals can, but we mourn. More is not the same as that one and we linger over them just as animals do theirs. It is harder for us though because we are more intelligent and expect more from our lives. But I feel animals can feel love, sorrow, joy, empathy or even jealousy--at the least.
@SaraDiva001 Animals can and do feel. I wonder. When humans go to the grocery store to buy a chicken to cook most of them are checking the price of it, not mourning its passing. Some people even go to seafood restaurants and pick a live lobster from a tank (I could never this by the way). That lobster will be fished out of the tank and cooked for that client and he/she doesn't feel any remorse about it. I imagine most predators experience the same feeling of detachment towards a prey.
@mrsotter19 I don't eat meat, so I don't know how you really feel when you shop. I imagine you're thinking about cooking that bird or cow for your family the way an animal may see it when it catches prey to feed its family or its pack. I do wonder how the lobsters feel as the tank grows empty of fellow companions, how they feel when they see people approaching and how they feel being boiled alive. But I also don't blame the people that eat them. Where there is life there is death. How I see it.
@SaraDiva001 Some time ago I saw a tv show called "kill it, cook it, eat it". They kill an animal on screen, cook it and serve it to members of the audience. I can tell you that I found I found the program deeply disturbing. My ancestors killed what they hunted and they certainly did not waste anything. I would not choose a lobster out of the tank but I don't think predators have scruples about how they get their meal.
@mrsotter19 That does sound disturbing. I was watching the an ep of the original Iron Chefs and they had some lobsters. The chef separated the heads from the tails with the tip of a knife. He only needed the tails so the heads were momentarily left crawling on the counter as the chef prepared the tails. Then he tossed the still moving heads in the garbage. It was pretty freaky. Anyway, I'm assuming you don't think that because you don't think animals can think on that kind of level?
@SaraDiva001 I don't think predators feel "sorry" for their prey, just as I don't think they are "happy" to kill. It is just something they must do to survive. Personally I couldn't kill anything unless I was on a deserted island and it boils down to either the chicken or me (knowing me I would starve because I don't see myself twisting a poor chicken's neck). I don't know what and if the Iron Chefs were thinking about the lobsters pain and distress but I am amazed the showed that on tv.
@mrsotter19 Wait, I've never said that predators feel sorry for their prey. Nor that they were happy to kill. And I'm not here to accuse you of murdering anything. I think it okay that you eat meat--I swear. When I have to cook I'm neither sad nor happy, but I do enjoy the satisfaction of fulfiling my need. And that makes me happy. I assumed animals were little different. That's what I've been meaning. Then I asked if you thought they didn't think on that level. The Iron Chef thing was chat.
@SaraDiva001 It's OK. We are here to discuss all subjects and exchange ideas. I haven't killed anything myself but so long as I eat meat someone has to do it for me, right? (meaning my local butcher). I bought an free-range chicken for Xmas(so I hope it enjoyed a certain quality of life). A fox will kill every chicken in a coop but only eat one of two. I have no idea why foxes do this. A farmer I know culls rabbits and then throws away the carcasses, doesn't even give away the meat. Crazy...
@mrsotter19 I feel the same on the free-range thing. If I ate meat I'd try for that too. Animals deserve some quality of life (excluding parasites and some insects-- =/). I also feel that if it must die it deserves as quick and painless a death as possible. And on that note, I have done mercy killings. Awful, but I hate to see suffering more. There's so much craziness to regret in the world, but I'm working to be content on considering perspective and encouraging quality of life. Working on...
@alexjovy01 They made fun of that in a movie once! There was this woman who was... I think she said she was a fruitarian? Anyway, she only ate fruits and veggies and only after they had decayed. It was funny because she was only getting drunk off of the alcohol content in the food. XD
@Herimia The creature strugglin in background is an ancient creature which lived 65 million years ago called predatorsaurus and was discovered first in this vid . In this vid you can see him hunting penguins with his incredible speed . Till this it was belived it was extinct .
@jumper1294 I think the other videos were taken from a different scene and they just combined them to the actual video of the orcas attacking in order to create a more dramatic story.
@iamalighthouse1 well if you're planning on working with ones in captivity.. they tend to live about a tenth of the length they should with depressive energy and even "suicidal" brain activity, so have fun at helping these creatures become extinct.
esta bien padre se lucieron a poner esto en animal planet se pasaron
sahayan1983 2 weeks ago
Awesome
Roboshark123 5 months ago
aww they didnt eat the pinguins they just played :D chopping as many pinguins ot half as fast as you can.
kalasbra77 5 months ago
a awesome as this video was, yu wuld not catch me in the water videoing them when that happened.. fuck that
Gaziell 5 months ago
Humans are there as last resort.
Aaaaarrrrrrggghhh 6 months ago
YouTube...oahusquid....check out the HUGE tiger shark my son (15) and I encountered while spearfishing in Hawaii.
oahusquid 6 months ago
This video is crap! They edited in a way to made us believe it was really group of orcas hunting penguins. Bullshit!
tutuvo10 7 months ago
1:30 CONFUSED WHALE
kr0901045 7 months ago
If the whales had nothing else to eat other than penguins, why didn't they just go after the camera man? Penguins= swimming 20+ mph.... Camera Man= SITTING DUCK! :D
paolosding 7 months ago
1.43 looks like a big burb xD
OoMusicFreakyoO 9 months ago
how the fak do they get this good footage
043329549 10 months ago
Has anyone noticed that at 1:18 there is a seagull that doesn't react at all when the orca attacked the penguin ? It like happen literally right beside it LOL
rickraptor1 10 months ago
1:10 RUN Motherfucker, RUN!!!
HyperVegitoDBZ 10 months ago
I went from WTF to WK. So WTF happened to WK. XD
DareDiamond 11 months ago
...the whales proceed to move in on the cornered sea world trainers...i mean penguins.
BabyFarkMcGeeZax1969 1 year ago
How the hell did I get here? I went from blowing smoke rings to orcas raping penguins. O_o
mrsims2 1 year ago
go penguins go!
tarmbruster1 1 year ago
Wheres the HD?
nazaxprime 1 year ago
does anyone knows where i can get the ful documentary of a aman among orcas online for streaming please?
mahjabeenadam 1 year ago
Dude, that orca at 1:32 is suchhhh a boss! "Just killed me some penguin, suuup bitches?"
unkommon2001 1 year ago
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Opss56 1 year ago
dang penguins get out of the frickin way
teamangels9 1 year ago
1:33 chill-out orca
dorgasvideos 1 year ago
All I want to ask is how the fuck do they get so close without dying? I got to give props to that those cameraman, they freaken have guts to to those things just that we'd like it.
XxKID1xX 1 year ago
@XxKID1xX That actually a good question...I bet they weren't there. They probably just created that scenario with different shots.
csbob2010 1 year ago
wow orca has chew toy
mdisland 1 year ago
1:10 lol they swim like torpillos :D
ZodiakAsHell 1 year ago
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shielaryobin 1 year ago
man im not gonna lie, thats pretty dope
perrbudd14 1 year ago
i swear to god they set these things up
demoniccheesepuff 1 year ago
Keep Tapping Number 7 :D
CopyCrap 1 year ago
I see it differently, Sara. All sociobiological threory should be shaped by the law of parsimony. What is most likely true, is usually true. So if a shark attacks and consumes a person's limb- the most plausible explanation or "cause" of predation is hunger. To characterize me saying "gee, we can never know" when I point out that the "experts" that attribute shark attacks to "mistaken identity" or "territorial response" are misguided is, well, also misguided. I'm saying they are wrong.
kmkfiction2 1 year ago
orcas make cute sounds
likitty20 1 year ago
1:11 - 1:14 holy shit how fast are they swimming?? like freakn torpedos !!
BeNGALi4LFE 1 year ago
Top 12 Smartest Animals on Earth: 12. Raccoon 11. Rhesus Macaque Monkey 10. Portia Labiata Jumping Spider 9. Rats 8. Ravens & Crows 7. Dogs (The Border Collie) & Cats (The American Shorthair) 6. North Pacific Giant Octopus 5. African Grey Parrot 4. Elephants 3. Capuchin Monkey 2. Dolphins (Bottlenose) & Whales (Orcas) 1. Common Chimpanzee
info145 1 year ago 42
@info145 Humans are Animals to, 1. should be Humans,2.common chimpanzee :-)
power5952 1 year ago
@power5952 OK OK. Maybe so. But they didn't include "humans" when they created that list, and i didn't make it up so...
info145 1 year ago
@info145 Oh ok.
power5952 1 year ago
@power5952
Sorry, that list is a joke. A primate (#11) is listed lower than a spider, birds and dogs? Also, it is widely known that pigs are smarter than dogs...and the aforementioned species. As far as "common" chimps go, never heard of that term- if you mean "non-bonobo" chimps, bonobos are also purportedly smarter than "common" chimps. Notwithstanding the fact the Octopus is the world's smartest invertebrate, it does not have an advanced cerebral cortex like higher order mammals (bears).
kmkfiction2 1 year ago
@info145 Source?
Shinaah 1 year ago
@info145 Pigs are known to be smarter than dogs... where were they on your little chart eh?
IzzySpint 1 year ago
@IzzySpint I DIDN'T WRITE THE LIST. Google it.
Personally, i would've had gorillas on it myself
info145 1 year ago
@info145 that's retarded, no spider is smarter than a pig. you're full of BS
snapper842002 1 year ago
@snapper842002 1) No one ever said the list is in ascending order 2) Look up info on the Portia Labiata Jumping Spider, you'll be amazed 3) Shut up
info145 1 year ago
@info145
Your list is a joke, but more laughable still is that you are asking someone to look on the internet to "prove" that BS is BS.
A jumping spider on a list of smartest animals? Ha ha more like you are on a list for trolls.
kmkfiction2 1 year ago
@kmkfiction2 For the 275,984th time, i didn't create that list.
You retarded bastard. If you don't like it, shut the fuk up and move on.
info145 1 year ago
@info145
Just because you didn't create the list doesn't mean you (1) aren't an idiot for posting on so many threads given its obvious inaccuracy and (2) a simpleton for asking people to "look it up".
Hmm.
Do you get a penny for every "search" to view the "source" of your info? I fancy.
Or you are just a lame troll. So eat that biatch
kmkfiction2 1 year ago
@kmkfiction2 i told your mother what to eat last night too. Oh and remind her to use a lot of ass cream for the damage i did.
info145 1 year ago
@info145
"Oh behave."
/s/ Austin Powers
kmkfiction2 1 year ago
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kmkfiction2 1 year ago
@info145 I believe you missed humans!
KickToStart1 7 months ago
@KickToStart1 OK OK, i give up. Everybody keeps saying that to me about a list i didn't create myself. i Googled it.
Anyway, the way the list should be is:
2. Cetaceans.
1. Apes (namely, Humans and Chimpanzee).
info145 7 months ago
@info145 Orcas are not whales.
RealCity3 5 months ago
@RealCity3
So even if the wording is the problem here, it's simply rectified: 2. Cetaceans. They're all aquatic mammals! i didn't make up that list. ☺
info145 5 months ago
@info145 i think the pig is missing, I've heard that it's also a very smart one, ;DD
CrazyTaisy 4 months ago
@CrazyTaisy Maybe it would've been 13th. i didn't make the list, or i would've had gorillas on it. Like these other animals, they also use deductive reasoning and creative problem solving AND tools.
info145 4 months ago
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GordonFreeMANness 4 months ago
@GordonFreeMANness You make very little sense. But anyway, 1) i didn't make up that list 2) Nobody said "in that order" 3) YOU couldn't make it onto this list ☺
info145 4 months ago
@info145 Into the list? I didn't try anything, really.
GordonFreeMANness 4 months ago
@GordonFreeMANness Try to not smoke any crack before you get on YouTube to speak your mind
info145 4 months ago
On 10/15/2011 GordonFreeMANness said: "MINUS. For the CC bullshit. Because of the cc and kg facts. R&C dumber than dogs? They're smarter than "great" apes!! Google it! E - 4th, but BN D & O - 2nd place? AE - up to 9 kg + thicker cortex than men, BD - 1700-1800 g. Orca - 6 kg. +More convoluted hemispheres. => CC - 1st? WTF?! Are you an idiot?! That's what you've been taught in school? Even O and G are smarter than both bonobos and CC. Oh, wait! Spider is smarter than a monkey?! PC-FACE!! XD"
info145 4 months ago
I would like to taste an orca I bet their tasty.
downy62 1 year ago
@downy62
They are actually the most toxic animals on earth due to industrial pollution, i.e., based on their diet. So, I would stick to ordering sushi.
Wait.
I guess we're all fucked.
kmkfiction2 1 year ago
I don't get why are u ppl going "DON'T KILL THE PENGUINS!" it's not like orcas can go to a shop and buy some meat u know. Predators are only successful in 1 of 10 hunts and if they don't practice of watch they won't survive.
GoDLiKeKakashi 1 year ago 2
DAAMMM THESE PINGUINS ARE FAST AS HELL
yaronalmo 1 year ago 11
Aww I couldn't bring myself to watch it. Penguins are my favourite animals... but the circle of life and all that...
MarkHajdukSplit 1 year ago
not so happy feet
MegaSam1992 1 year ago 2
The penguins look like torpedo's
SuperSmashShaman 1 year ago
Penguins go fast by farting.. Right?
oElectrifyHD 1 year ago
STOP KILLING PENGUINS!
THEY ARE TOO CUTE!
Muxezzz 1 year ago
rofl
myvidspwn 1 year ago
mmmm. michael phelps Vs. King Penguins , i Wonder . ..
gonna but my bets on the King-puins : They R like Fucking missiles !!!
chicoflo1993 1 year ago
i bet penguins taste excellent
phalluman 1 year ago
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racehellish 1 year ago
Orcas hunt to eat. They don't kill each other for money like humans do.
mrsotter19 1 year ago 2
@mrsotter19 Well, some humans hunt humans for food XD
vallaznoll 1 year ago
@mrsotter19 There is a video of a pod seperating a baby whale (of another kind, though I forget which) from its mother and drowning it. Then they nibble it a bit and move on, having killed it only for the practice. In fact, I did not see any whales eat the penguin they just killed in the video. I assume they were, again, just practicing. A similar instance shows bottlenose dolphins killing another porpoise just because it was around. Maybe they don't kill for money, but they're little better.
SaraDiva001 1 year ago
@SaraDiva001
Actually, the pod of Killer Whales drowned the Gray Whale calf and ate its tongue. It was not for practice. As for Killer Whales killing dolphins and porpoises, if they don't eat them (which transients will do), they are killing a competitor.
kmkfiction2 1 year ago
@kmkfiction2 They WERE practicing and could have eaten the animal if they had chosen to do so. They didn't. They drowned a baby whale while its mother watched and cried. And read my post again. I said a pod of bottlenose dolphins killed A porpoise--not orcas. And this was in a time when food levels were fine. The film is odd for that and because the behavior had never before been seen in dolphins (in general). A group of whale watchers saw/filmed the event and thought it was play at first.
SaraDiva001 1 year ago
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@SaraDiva001 It seems disingenuous for you to infer that "they WERE practicing and could have eaten the animal if they had chosen to do so", as if, in the end, a baby Gray Whale tongue is not a delicacy. As for your other point, "And this is when food levels were fine"...that is a laughable point. And you know the changing marine ecosystem's available resources...how precisely?
kmkfiction2 1 year ago
@SaraDiva001 Second thing. You incorrectly presuppose that Gray Whale calf tongue is not a delicacy to these highly intelligent creatures. You have no idea what Killer Whales think, much less what these Killer Whales' motives were. Your statement that "they WERE practicing and could have eaten the animal if they had chosen to do so" is a non sequitur. As for the notion you have any insight into when "food levels are fine" in the marine ecosystem is laughable. Says you? Silly speculation, Sara.
kmkfiction2 1 year ago
@SaraDiva001 Interesting. I imagine these orcas were teaching younger members. Also I have seen orcas hunt sharks for their liver (I imagine it is quite nutritious) but leave the rest of the animal untouched. I don't know about dolphins but maybe they kill other dolphins to protect hunting territories?
mrsotter19 1 year ago
@mrsotter19 The whales were practicing and they drowned the calf while it's mother cried for it nearby. They weren't hungry either, so they ate a bit and left it. They could have eaten the calf if they'd desired to. As for the dolphins, the vid was considered amazing because the behaviour had never been seen in them before. Whale watchers were filming the event and thought they were playing at first. There wasn't a shortage of food. They just came across it, chased it down, and killed it.
SaraDiva001 1 year ago
@SaraDiva001
How do you know that the Killer Whales weren't just being violently aggressive? Why do they drag pinnipeds out to sea off Patagonia and beat them savagely? There is no "explanation" and I find your "practice" theory here to be unpersuasive.
kmkfiction2 1 year ago
@kmkfiction2 Hm. I was trying to give examples of animals that killed for no reason and almost destroyed my own cause by giving the whales a reason. Then you came with: "How do you know that the Killer Whales weren't just being violently aggressive?" Thank you for the correction. That could have been embarrasing. Secondly, I did not assume that there wasn't a food shortage. Scientist who study marine life and their ecosystems did. They also claimed the orcas were practicing. Like they know!
SaraDiva001 1 year ago
@SaraDiva001
They know as much as the Dog Whisperer allegedly "knows" the reason your dog isn't house trained.
They know as much as Ralph Collier purportedly "knows" the White shark that attacked and killed our family vet, David Martin, "was pregnant and attacked the swimmer because the shark was ready to give birth."
Say, know an Iraqi bridge that is for sale. You sound like a buyer.
kmkfiction2 1 year ago
@kmkfiction2 1) Does he not house train the dog for them? Does his method, whatever it is, not work to make the dog behave? I believe in results.
2) What does a pregnant shark have to do with your vet? I wouldn't care if a damned house fell on him or his C.O.D. were a mob hit. A person has died. You're going to be bitter to some guy about a shark? Lives are worth more than words, Fiction.
3) All this you've spouted about whale behavior and I need to buy a bridge? What, one of yours?
SaraDiva001 1 year ago
@SaraDiva001
No, princess, "experts" in various fields are not conclusive on all points of knowledge, especially when "testifying" for the creatures they "specialize" in. So, just as the Dog Whisperer might posit "your dog peed on the floor because of his diet", it could be retaliatory for leaving to work. Ralph Collier can theorize a White shark ate our vet "because of pre-birthing territorial response", despite the fact White sharks have never even been seen giving birth. It's all BS.
kmkfiction2 1 year ago
@kmkfiction2 True, experts are not. They study behaviors and findings gathered for years to come to a common sense conclussion made present fact by testing, testing and retesting. That's why the dog no longer pees on the floor when the Dog Whisperer is done. As for your shark, I don't know if the man is right, just as you have no idea if the man is wrong. And that's according to your theory of, "Gee, we can never really know--can we?"
SaraDiva001 1 year ago
@SaraDiva001
U are trying to add credence to your speculative assertion that the Orcas killed the baby Gray Whale for "practice" because that's what the experts say. Sorry, they ATE the Gray Whale calf's tongue. There was a direct caloric benefit from the energy expended. As such, your speculation that, well, the Orcas killed the Gray Whale calf for "practice" is as shortsighted as saying the one that ate the White shark liver killed it for practice, i.e., b/c it didn't eat the whole item.
kmkfiction2 1 year ago
@SaraDiva001
I find it humorous that you can understand Orcas are intelligent and refined enough to kill a White shark JUST for its nutritious liver...but not enough to kill a Gray Whale calf for its soft, delicate tongue? Puzzling.
kmkfiction2 1 year ago
@kmkfiction2 Fine. If I say that in both instances they were just practicing, what could you say then? Who says the liver is nutrutious to the whales. Did the experts? How do you know they weren't practiving? Experts say that? How do you know they never eat the sharks? Experts never tape it for you? Please, enlighten me. What is your source of info? 'I find your"[who could ever really know]" theory here to be unpersuasive.'
SaraDiva001 1 year ago
@SaraDiva001
Why are you are imputing a "who could ever really know" straw man argument to me? Orcas are well documented for killing prey and eating only one part. I am sayng they are intending to do the act to realize the result. You are saying they are doing the act for some ulterior purpose, i.e., practice. If you are going to debate, at least argue against what I'm saying. Tell me, why can it not be what it seems? Why can't it be that the Orcas killed the calf, at the tongue and left.
kmkfiction2 1 year ago
@kmkfiction2 *You're saying experts don't know, then turn to their documentation to prove it?* Anyway, I've done a rewind and realized that I should be agreeing with you. Experts are idiots who don't know spit from shit. So the whales killed the baby for nothing, just as humans cut the fins off of sharks and toss them into the sea to drown for nothing. Ergo, my original point that humans are not the only creatures that can kill for nothing is made and I have two prime examples. Thanks buddy.
SaraDiva001 1 year ago
@SaraDiva001
What is increasingly obvious to me is that each scientist has a natural inclination to proffer complex explanations when the most wasteful part of Nature displays itself. How did that quote go? "God made everything out of Nothing, but the nothingness shines through." Take care.
kmkfiction2 1 year ago
@SaraDiva001 How sad for the mummy whale. I can tell you that as a mum I would have died defending my baby. However, it is wrong to assign human feeling to wild animals. They are the way they are. They practice hunting, just as the military blows up dummy target to get ready for real combat. Nobody said nature's way was gentle. However harsh all this hunting seems it is not as sad as killing for money, or simply because the killer was drunk or on drugs.
mrsotter19 1 year ago
@mrsotter19 Maybe they don't feel as strongly or as wide a range as we, but animals can feel. Wild and domestic. That's why you can sympathize the whale's loss. People can have more kids just as easily as animals can, but we mourn. More is not the same as that one and we linger over them just as animals do theirs. It is harder for us though because we are more intelligent and expect more from our lives. But I feel animals can feel love, sorrow, joy, empathy or even jealousy--at the least.
SaraDiva001 1 year ago
@SaraDiva001
To impute empathy to animals to silly. Unless kin selection, there is arguably no such thing.
kmkfiction2 1 year ago
@SaraDiva001 Animals can and do feel. I wonder. When humans go to the grocery store to buy a chicken to cook most of them are checking the price of it, not mourning its passing. Some people even go to seafood restaurants and pick a live lobster from a tank (I could never this by the way). That lobster will be fished out of the tank and cooked for that client and he/she doesn't feel any remorse about it. I imagine most predators experience the same feeling of detachment towards a prey.
mrsotter19 1 year ago
@mrsotter19 I don't eat meat, so I don't know how you really feel when you shop. I imagine you're thinking about cooking that bird or cow for your family the way an animal may see it when it catches prey to feed its family or its pack. I do wonder how the lobsters feel as the tank grows empty of fellow companions, how they feel when they see people approaching and how they feel being boiled alive. But I also don't blame the people that eat them. Where there is life there is death. How I see it.
SaraDiva001 1 year ago
@SaraDiva001 Some time ago I saw a tv show called "kill it, cook it, eat it". They kill an animal on screen, cook it and serve it to members of the audience. I can tell you that I found I found the program deeply disturbing. My ancestors killed what they hunted and they certainly did not waste anything. I would not choose a lobster out of the tank but I don't think predators have scruples about how they get their meal.
mrsotter19 1 year ago
@mrsotter19 That does sound disturbing. I was watching the an ep of the original Iron Chefs and they had some lobsters. The chef separated the heads from the tails with the tip of a knife. He only needed the tails so the heads were momentarily left crawling on the counter as the chef prepared the tails. Then he tossed the still moving heads in the garbage. It was pretty freaky. Anyway, I'm assuming you don't think that because you don't think animals can think on that kind of level?
SaraDiva001 1 year ago
@SaraDiva001 I don't think predators feel "sorry" for their prey, just as I don't think they are "happy" to kill. It is just something they must do to survive. Personally I couldn't kill anything unless I was on a deserted island and it boils down to either the chicken or me (knowing me I would starve because I don't see myself twisting a poor chicken's neck). I don't know what and if the Iron Chefs were thinking about the lobsters pain and distress but I am amazed the showed that on tv.
mrsotter19 1 year ago
@mrsotter19 Wait, I've never said that predators feel sorry for their prey. Nor that they were happy to kill. And I'm not here to accuse you of murdering anything. I think it okay that you eat meat--I swear. When I have to cook I'm neither sad nor happy, but I do enjoy the satisfaction of fulfiling my need. And that makes me happy. I assumed animals were little different. That's what I've been meaning. Then I asked if you thought they didn't think on that level. The Iron Chef thing was chat.
SaraDiva001 1 year ago
@SaraDiva001 It's OK. We are here to discuss all subjects and exchange ideas. I haven't killed anything myself but so long as I eat meat someone has to do it for me, right? (meaning my local butcher). I bought an free-range chicken for Xmas(so I hope it enjoyed a certain quality of life). A fox will kill every chicken in a coop but only eat one of two. I have no idea why foxes do this. A farmer I know culls rabbits and then throws away the carcasses, doesn't even give away the meat. Crazy...
mrsotter19 1 year ago
@mrsotter19 I feel the same on the free-range thing. If I ate meat I'd try for that too. Animals deserve some quality of life (excluding parasites and some insects-- =/). I also feel that if it must die it deserves as quick and painless a death as possible. And on that note, I have done mercy killings. Awful, but I hate to see suffering more. There's so much craziness to regret in the world, but I'm working to be content on considering perspective and encouraging quality of life. Working on...
SaraDiva001 1 year ago
@SaraDiva001 You've said it...!
mrsotter19 1 year ago
@mrsotter19 this is why we will never understand vegetarians! think of the live fruits and vegetables you are eating! it is still live!
alexjovy01 1 year ago
@alexjovy01 They made fun of that in a movie once! There was this woman who was... I think she said she was a fruitarian? Anyway, she only ate fruits and veggies and only after they had decayed. It was funny because she was only getting drunk off of the alcohol content in the food. XD
SaraDiva001 1 year ago
@SaraDiva001 That's the skin you're seeing floating down. Apparently, killers don't really care for eating feathers.
critterfreek82 11 months ago
Is it just me or did that Orca just do a monster burp near the end of the video?
Gefnir 1 year ago
All through this song i can hear the song Jamrock by Damien Marley in my head.. it suits it for some reason xD
EliteQ80 1 year ago
nitrO-speeD..poor penguie....:(
lina2301 1 year ago
Willy vs Pingu
TheZochor 1 year ago 9
0:05 LOL that fat seal is so funny!
AwesomeTheCoolLol 1 year ago 42
@AwesomeTheCoolLol
lol can't believe u spotted that
GOD 1 year ago
@AwesomeTheCoolLol dont be mean it was trying to lose some weight
jh007x 1 year ago
@AwesomeTheCoolLol LOOLLLL, I didn't even notice it!!! Thanks! ^__________^
TranceAnime333 1 year ago
@AwesomeTheCoolLol
"Bucket! I'm coming for you!"
bonechiller0 1 year ago
@AwesomeTheCoolLol HAHAHA I CANT STOP REPLAYING IT NOW
breadandbutterr 1 year ago
Damn those penguins are like rockets!
Aldind2x 1 year ago 2
who films this kina things that close to the orcas?!?!?
299vasilis 1 year ago
@299vasilis thats the thing if you dont look like prey then you arn't prey ;)
bmxconnor09 1 year ago
@bmxconnor09 haha! i'll have to agree with that!
299vasilis 1 year ago
TAKE THAT LIL PENGUIN FROM HAPPY FEET!
shadowangle75 1 year ago
the most beautiful animals
schmodda34 1 year ago 2
i hate claud already....
JD2005 1 year ago
scary
gogoutube 1 year ago
aren't they emperor penguins?!
gaaralover00 1 year ago
awww cute orcas xDD
hyuend 1 year ago 2
0:04 wtf is that struggling in background
Herimia 1 year ago
@Herimia The creature strugglin in background is an ancient creature which lived 65 million years ago called predatorsaurus and was discovered first in this vid . In this vid you can see him hunting penguins with his incredible speed . Till this it was belived it was extinct .
garioldwin 1 year ago 2
@garioldwin its just a seal
rollercoasterfreak36 1 year ago
@garioldwin exactly!
kiko4685 1 year ago
@Herimia Elephant seal! Blubber, blubber blubber....they have funny noses.
shortstuph123 1 year ago
1:11 look how fast they're swimming, unbelievable!
killerbiller35 1 year ago
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@1:19 That bird didn't even move...
Speeddude1 1 year ago
the whales just let the divers hang out with them ?
jumper1294 1 year ago
@jumper1294 I think the other videos were taken from a different scene and they just combined them to the actual video of the orcas attacking in order to create a more dramatic story.
kiko4685 1 year ago
wow that is some amazing filming...
nezzy14 1 year ago
honestly i dont know about you guys but nature can sometimes be scary.
TheDarkSinner11 1 year ago
dam nature! you're cwazzzyyyyy!!!
llx2o1 1 year ago
wow.
boxerini 1 year ago
okay nobody let a retard child go swimming where orcas are hunting
KCAstudios 1 year ago
poor penguins:(
but i love orcas, haha u gotta love the food chain dont cha ya?
hotpinkcrayon99 1 year ago
cute orcas
LookyPeter 1 year ago 2
People forget that Free Willie's favorite meal is shark liver! Badass!
Foreverclever87 1 year ago
damn I wonder how they got those camera angles.
MNSv2 1 year ago
a meal fit for a king.
SHA-ZAM!
skatekoh 1 year ago
Predators on land and sea.
No3Patriot 1 year ago
DAMN at 1:13 they look like torpedoes.....
buwaneka66 1 year ago
save the whales
ruumpleteaser 1 year ago 2
so sneaky :|
tonikabadass 1 year ago
lol at 1:46 he's saying ima lil sheep ba ba ba ba ba ba ba lol hahah
Ishmaellllllllllllll 1 year ago
i feel sorry for the penguins...i wonder if it escaped or is it inside the stomach alive waiting to come out..
BOGZASV8MA 1 year ago
King Penguins...I always knew them as Emperor Penguins.
Timothy2035 1 year ago
@Timothy2035 They're a different species, they're slightly smaller than Emperors!
jayhayes2007 1 year ago
@jayhayes2007 okay thanks for clearing that up. :)
Timothy2035 1 year ago
its funny because the little penguins have to grow up without a dad/mom......
NViES 1 year ago
.........nice? so they kill bird/fish thingies called penguins., orcas u pplz are true hustlers lol
TigerAlbino1800 1 year ago
¥T
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AlphaMistafiedOmega 1 year ago 2
poor orca's :C
kanutastar 1 year ago
Comon!!! Not penguins!!!! D:
HlynurOskar557 1 year ago
And to think.. I could be working with these majestic creatures in a few years. :D
This is another example of their power. Awesome! :D
iamalighthouse1 1 year ago
@iamalighthouse1 well if you're planning on working with ones in captivity.. they tend to live about a tenth of the length they should with depressive energy and even "suicidal" brain activity, so have fun at helping these creatures become extinct.
BubbleParadox 1 year ago
@BubbleParadox
Hey how about we stop with the assumptions. Perhaps I'm planning on going out to open sea to study them, hmm? Stop assuming things.
iamalighthouse1 1 year ago
@iamalighthouse1 didn't assume, just said if you are
BubbleParadox 1 year ago
2th!!
kanutastar 1 year ago
@kanutastar Its 2nd dumbass
Ericg0h 1 year ago
@Ericg0h well sorry :/
kanutastar 1 year ago