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  • I am assuming the making the EM starter is the same thing as making compost tea. (Rain) water plus a nutrient source (kelp + molasses) and some finished compost. (reminds me of a story about papa mole, mama mole and baby mole). Set it in sun, infusing lots of air into it and in about a little while the aerobic critters have multiplied by lots. So if one is making anaerobic critters multiply then one woooood leave out the air - and of course start with anaerobic critters.

  • @t1l1m Check out the videos about producing methane gas. This is the same concept and I'm fairly certain the same anaerobic creatures in a 55 gallon drum.

  • Where do you live? It looks amazing.

  • Although not so quick, think it is much easier just to chuck your compost into the compost pit! However, we use up our two compost bins extremely quickly so that's it until the next year. This seems to be a solution for keeping a continual supply of compost on the go...

  • good info...thanks!

  • Wouldn't the VERY hot water kill the micro organisms? Did your mixture work?

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  • is it possible to make bokashi out of bullshit? i just ask because EM IS bullshit!

  • @tommy186

    can you be more specific? are you saying lacto bacillus doesn't exist? or are you saying em has no benefits for plants or soil?  Do you know what a septic tank is.

  • @johndela1

    "We conclude from our results that ‘Effective microorganisms’ did not improve yields and soil quality during 4 years of application in this field experiment under the temperate climatic conditions of Central Europe."

    Mayer J, Scheid S, Widmer F, Fließbach A, Oberholzer H. How effective are 'Effective microorganisms® (EM)'? Results from a field study in temperate climate. Applied Soil Ecology. 2010;46(2):230-239

  • forgive me is this was already addressed but you said your water was very hot when you added your molasses. wouldnt adding your EM to the very hot water kill them? wouldnt it be best to wait till it cools down?

  • Yes please maks another visit using your homemade microbial tea. Would love to have the recipe. At home I make compost tea, kombucha, fermented sauerkruat. kvass, yogurt, lacto fermented pickles and they all go into the compost pile. I would like to try a home made version so my compost doesn't stink. Come to mention it, I would like to have a larger for my compostables.

  • you can buy a premade EM mixture from Effective Microbes. You can also grow it from bokashi, if you have some bokashi.

  • In my city, there is no wheat /rice brans. Is saw (wood) dust ok as a substitute?

  • How do you make the microbial innocculant? Or is it a case of having to buy it.

  • How do you make the microbial innocculant?

  • Question: In your video you add the EM solution to the hot water. Doesn't the excessive heat kill many of the microbes? Would you be better to add the EM solution to a cooler water/molasses mix (say at blood temperature)... ?? Please advise!

  • Hi. I made some Bokashi a couple of weeks ago using ratios similar to yours. I read somewhere that it's ready when there's a layer of white mycelium on the surface. So far, it hasn't appeared. Is this feature essential in order for Bokashi to be "ready"? Also, you don't mention a drying step. Is it essential?

  • I keep hearing about how compost smells. Obviously, if it smells, you are not burying scraps. My compost bin never smells because the scraps are buried. I save up scraps till I have a couple pounds that I first freeze, then bury them into the center of the compost pile. It never smells or attracts rodents...and I live by a wooded area where wildlife is very prevalent.

  • (EM) is called effective microbes which you can google search it and will find it is made by frementing soft white wheatberriesor rye. This is commonly known as rejuvelac drink. Make some for yourself, it is very good for you to drink.

  • is rice bran can be use for making bokashi?

  • What if you don't have 17lbs of bran and want to make a much smaller amount? Where do you get the other ingredients from? It was such a small amount for that amount of bran do you still need it when mixing smaller amounts? The feed store in my area doesn't carry wheat bran ...

  • I found a smaller recipe, not tried it tho, but its 500g wheat bran, 250ml water, 1tbs molasses, 1 tsp EM...am not sure so much water is necessary, maybe just add a little at a time until its similar consistency to the batch in the video

  • Thanks ... where do I get the "EM" from?

  • I think this is nice but I have watched my sister inlaw and she has an outdoor area where she just buries the scraps and covers it with dirt. Been doing it for thirty years without a problem. But this looks interesting. Just not necessary

  • I am very intrested in seeing how you make your EM starter, I have looked and haven't seen the vid you talked about. Did you ever get around to making it? Could I get you to divulge the recipe? Thanks for the Info.

  • Ditto, you just saved me typing the same thing..a video on making the EM would be much appreciated

  • @myasunshine the EM starter seem to be compost tea. Just Google "compost tea" and you'll get plenty of info.

  • @damontoney

    hi... EM starter comes only from Dr Teruo Higa. He' s the one who accidentally discovered EM-1. Most country buy from Him and made local brand name.

  • @khalil103084 I see. That makes sense.

  • that is so cool!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • put it in the bag then vacume all the air out

  • If you use Celcius instead of Fahrenheit to measure temperature 120 F is about 47 C. You don't want to bake your beneficial bugs.

  • well that clered that up

  • Thanks for the Video. What was name of the Intro Music?

  • aloha!! there were a few things i thought would b good to add to the Bokashi prep demo.EX: emphasis on fermentation enviroment,(anarobic,aerobic) uses etc. ....the ceramic em is not required for a great high quality Bokashi> thanks for doing the good works! S

  • Thank you so much for sharing this with us. Please keep the faith!!!

    snatorr

    Australia

  • The starter culture can be made with FREE natural occurring beneficial bacteria, there's no need expensive mixes, starters or fancy buckets.

    bokaskicomposting(dot)com

    I'll be adding detailed instructions within the next few days.

  • I've finally added instructions at the above website.

    Thanks.

  • @WoodchuckinPA

    hi!

    yes u can make starter culture with local free natural beneficial microorganisms (IMO "indigenous Microorganism") but the problem with that is quality. it might be contaminated with pathogens bacteria if u don't prepare it in a laboratory environment. laboratory equipments (microscope,etc.) are necessary to identify that your starter bacteria are all beneficial. so, therefore bokashi making can sometimes be dangerous done at home. it might be the source of disease.

    thank you.

  • @khalil103084

    That's akin to saying that you can't safely make yogurt, kefir, sourdough, sauerkraut or wine, etc., at home!!! It's simply not true that it needs to be cultured in a laboratory.

    Humans have been making beneficial bacteria starters at home for thousands of years!!!!!!

    Thanks you!!!!

  • @WoodchuckinPA

    all yogurt, sourdough, wine, etc. which taste good and has the highest quality are prepared at laboratory like conditions. i heard local yogurt which is "not well" (poorly) prepared to be the source of salmonella (food poisoning pathogen).

    peace...

  • @khalil103084

    LOL!

    When you extend your expensive EM with water and molasses or add the activated EM to expensive bran, do you do so in a laboratory environment???

    Peace!!

  • @WoodchuckinPA

    lols.

    we don't extend our EM because it will become "LESS" effective at 2nd generation.we only activate it. and we do it in laboratory alike conditions. therefore, we get consistent and positive results. its "QUALITY" .to add more,when making bokashi it should have a smell of "sweet sour" when harvesting.it is an indication that beneficial bacteria are dominant.if rotting or undesirable smell occurs, throw your bokashi right away. means pathogenic bacteria are dominant.

  • @WoodchuckinPA

    dont get me wrong. all im trying to say was to be careful when preparing your culture. i did'nt say it was impossible...

    lols

  • EM-multi-SHOP

  • you need to buy a 'starter culture' - kida like sourdough, and then you can brew up your own 'tea' from the concentrate. $12 for a small bottle from EM America.

  • Thank you. Awesome video, very well done. Can you use this to make humanure? The birds paid for the feed w/ droppings. (win win ;) How long will the liquid inoculant last in a sealed 1 gallon container w/o feeding?

  • i'll add my voice to those requesting a video on how to make the starter culture please.

  • Yes, another request for showing how to make the starter culture, please!!

  • What is powdered ceramic and where can one get it??

  • feed animals with that? is the powderd ceramic you included edibal? seems harmfull..ish...

  • I have the same question takadi, because you cant really do anything with these instructions without that. I would love to know how to make it too

  • I messaged the guy and he hasn't answered back. I'm thinking the method is similar to making compost tea, but his starter might be more complex. I'm thinking in order to get optimal results, you have to buy the cultures (they are called EM)

  • The main difference between EM (effective microorganism) and the microorganisms found in compost tea is that EM contains anaerobes that allow the Bokashi to ferment and pickle, as opposed to compost tea organisms which are aerobic creatures.

  • Can you tell us how to make the starter culture?

  • thanks for posting this. a vendor list for the ceramic particles would be helpful.

    i would think that it would be smart to wear a superfine particle mask as you add the ceramic particles and to continue to wear it until you have finished adding and mixing in the liquid. It can't be healthy to breath in ceramic particles!

  • This would otherwise be great, but is pretty useless without knowing how to make the microbe mixture.

  • So true....!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • What a brilliant idea am definitley going to get myself a Bokashi Bucket. Please tellus how to make the Activated Effective Microbe.

    Thanks for the brilliant ideas

  • This bokashi preparation is remarkably similar to fermented cow manure in biodynamics.I'd like to make a starter for my compost bins and would love to see how to make the microbial inocuant.Many thanks for this post!

  • yes, please show how to make em!

  • music is way too loud in contrast to the audio in the video, i had to turn my sound way down at the credits.

  • I'm hopeful that you'll do an EM brewing video soon. Keep 'em coming, please!

  • i'm digging your videos, more please. Thanks.

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