Sami Zaatari VS Keith Thompson Debate: Is Christianity a religion of peace? 3/7

[wishingfreedom]

There are place where muslims and christians get along well with eachother. Both quran and bible are full of flaws but lets just get along.

[Taurion4467]

i have never seen so much emotional anger in a debate wow you held your ground well Keith

[MrKillacrash]

wow keiths the fool lol who is sami to condem keith and say he shouldnt be allowed in free society... however sounds to me like sami is being the violent person who wants captivity and suffering.... and yes christians will kill all the evil of the world... not just wonder around killing ppl lol this is funny as hell... hey sami learn of which you speak quit taking scripture out of context.....

[Decenium]

HAHAHA keith is a fool

seriously, you cannot root for him here, rules where set, islam will be discussed BUT SOMEWHERE ELSE!

So sad Keith cant seem to handle those set rules XD

ps, religion should be long gone anno 2011 but hey, lot more wrong with the world today ;)

[prince4king7]

muslims only have double standards and inconsistency! nothing else, thats y without these 2 things, they cannot prove anything!

another coward act by a muslim cuz his double standards r being exposed! and this is wot muslims call an excellent debater???? WOW!

[prince4king7]

Just note how sami ignored sunan abu dawood and ibn e ishaaq!

2 Timothy 3:16???????? where is the mention of violence in this verse??? sami!!!! its u who is playing red herrings here and does not even know wot is going on!

And again! Ibn e ishaq is the earliest muslim commentator, u cannot come and give us present day liberal scholars to prove ur point!!!!

[prince4king7]

Luke 19:11-27, sami, u call this violence???? ur proving urself not only to b stupid but also naive and ignorant!!!! don't u know the difference between violence and judgement of God, like this ur allah is already a stupid murderer when he is also going to throw all the unbeleivers in the hell fire and also going to SUBSTITUTE non beleiver (Christians and Jews) for muslims,throwing them in hell and giving paradise to muslims! a v poor and bad analogy my friend! desperation is evident!!!!

[GSADVANCETV]

Sami is an intellectually dishonest moron. Though Keith, I must point out that Jesus did not "do away" with any old laws. If anything, he amplified them. So now you are guilty of murder if you kill in your heart. The only thing that was nailed to the cross were the rituals relating to sin offerings i.e. lamb and goat sacrifice. The Brit Chadashah is not a new covenent, Its a renewed Covenant. It is a WILL and testament, the "NEW" covenant merely adds gentiles into the original Testament.

[lesterdiamond5]

NOTICE how when you START CRITIQUING their Pedophile Muhammad those Mozzies get Violent and SPITEFUL like the pedophile taught them. This character trait they inherited straight from the Pedophile himself!

[FreeInChrist777]

The verses Sami brings about are verses of War. Now tell me Sam is there killings in times of War? What do you expect the Jews to do in a time of War, wait there so they can be slaughtered? The Quran permits the slaughter of innocents, the only time you'll see the Jews however killed people during the time of War. Sami, have you ever seen a War with no death? There is no such thing, you're claims are illogical and can be easily refuted. Time of war = Slaughter of people and Death.

[lesterdiamond5]

@FreeInChrist777 I can explain away all the war passages in old testament. There is a historical context to it. It was about national defense but there are other reasons. I can't put them all here in this small limited comment box.

[FreeInChrist777]

@lesterdiamond5 Well Muslims will ignore the context of it even when it's right in your face, but hey there Muslims they have weak arguments because they cannot defend the indefenable Quran. Muslims always bring the verse about exterminating the cannities but they forget that GOD LET THE JEWS BE SLAVES IN EGYPT FOR YEARS, UNTIL THE SINS OF THE CANNANITES GOT TO THE LEVEL OF PUNISHMENT! DO YOU NOT CALL THAT ONE OF THE MOST RIGHTEOUS JUDGEMENTS EVER? I WOULD?

[FreeInChrist777]

@lesterdiamond5 ALSO WHEN MUSLIMS SAY THAT THE JEWS KILLED THE BABIES, IT WAS BECAUSE GOD COMMANDED THEM TO. IN CHRISTIANITY IF A BABY DIES IT IMEDIATELY GO TO HEAVEN, GOD WAS SHOWING HIS MERCY ON THE PAGAN CHILDREN BECAUSE IF HE HAD LEFT THEM WITHOUT KILLING THEM THEY WOULD GROW TO BE IDOL WORSHIPPERS AND EVENTUALLY END UP IN HELL, AGAIN WE SEE THE RIGHTEOUS AND HOLY JUDGEMENT OF YAHWEH. YAHWEH'S JUDGEMENTS ARE THE MOST RIGHTEOUS JUDGEMENTS, HE WAITED UNTIL THERE SINS GOT TOO BIG!

[QuantumUni]

Keith was not running at all just using the Quran to point out his inconsistencies and Sami theologically contradicting himself by his logic regarding the OT. You cant believe the OT is false when Mohammad said it's true, You can't damn the so called "genocides" when the Quran pulls the same stories from the OT/Tanakh. These are contradictions and inconsistencies, all fallacies in debates must be exposed and opponents ground tumbled and cracked.

[jaatsf1]

Sami is a turd. . .

[MrGhettown]

please take a look at his hand gesture in that picture...

[followerofjesus1984]

luke 19 :27......... ia parable discribes the last days when w go to heaven, nothing to with us now, read it carefully it depicting if was Christian don't do things we should like bring people to jesus we wont enter heaven for this, read matt 7:13 - 23 and then realise the truth

[FollowingChrist44]

how come sami doesn't allow christians to refer to the quran/islam on debates, but he always refers to the bible in his debates. Even if the debate topic is for example is about muhammad being a prophet or not, he will still refer to the Bible.

[sonofmyfather12]

i dont think the police needs to watch him cause he belives in the old testiment, thats crazy

[sonofmyfather12]

sammi really doesnt like christians

[darkodamir]

Massacres, genocides etc. that what muslims are doing since Muhammad!

[IslamAyaat]

I do not understand why these christians keep talking about the Quran and islam in a debate about christianity.

[followerofjesus1984]

@IslamAyaat he is showing the double standards of sami, u gotta condemn the voilence of the God in the old testament, when allah took responsability

[irhabi0]

So let's all hope & pray for a Europe & Muslim world where we can have straight & gay Muslim & non-Muslim people building as many GIANT, HUGE minarets, church towers & Hindu Temples wherever they want in each others countries! How about it Sami? Ex-Christian88? Ali? Gay Muslims praying in a Hindu temple in the heart of Makkah? Shame, the hypocrisy must really hurt...

[B1gape]

my ppls? nah America... i just have to live here. Christian are about Love, Care for others, think of others. not to Murder. Read what Christ Said and Did and we should follow Him...i bet youll never find him to hurt but Heal the Sick. we try to spread peace but the People Running things the Evil men do this Not Christians.

[edog5005]

Sami just goes to personal attacks instead of just answering the question.

[ThingsThatVexMe]

Great use of the Torah. Mohamed and his new religion Islam is just a different distorted version of the Torah + the bible. This Osama guy gets worked up after you made this great point. It is apparent that this Osama guy despises Christians no matter what. "Don't you dare!!!" or what? You will attack Keith with you bad breath? Stop trying to sound tough. Then the moderators come on and threaten Keith. This is how Muslims act. We can talk about your religion but you cant talk about ours. BS

[8Thirst]

That was a pretty good debate move sami just did. He goes and says DONT YOU DARE talk aoout this and that. He knows hes gonna say it and its true. Hes priming his audience to react as if its a ridiculous arguemnt. I wonder if Sami doubles as a 9/11 truther.

[havock89]

If Jesus IS God, as God ordering the death of the enemies of God is not genocide. Genocide is a mortal law. God give all people their being, and sustains all life. All life actually comes from God, when someone dies, it is God who does not murder them, but reclaims the living spirit that makes them alive.

God through Christ Jesus made humanity with a purpose, that purpose required the protection of Jewish culture and religion from contamination by other religions.

[toocumbersome]

The response to Sami's arguments is pretty obvious re the OT. Those peoples who were judged by God and slaughtered by the Israelites were heavily engaged in the practice of (amongst other seriously aberrant behaviour) ritualistic human sacrifice to demonic entities which they worshipped as gods.

[kris01987]

SAmi is so stupid.

[prince4king7]

@kris01987 agreed!

[dilawer321]

haha standard muslims man, trying to bully their way through, the funniest bit is were they say no debating on islam.. hahahaha so its a 1 way debate lolzz

[B1gape]

hey sami what about this has their ever been one christian to put on a 5 pound c4 bomb exploding humans to pieces killing lifes, as MUSLIMS DO! or Car bombs or IEDS killing soldiers or haven young kids trained to kill innocence, oh yea what about 9\11 that is the violence SO DONT YOU DARE say its not true

[funfsinn14]

just the tone of voices used by the debaters indicates who is more correct. Sami shouting "YOU are not a man of peace" its pretty ridiculous.

[Superapeaholic]

sammys hair sux!

[villaessaouira]

THOMSON HE'S FULL OF SHIT

[rmcc0002]

Are you going to debate this guy on Islam?

[villaessaouira]

HE CAN'T DEBAT MUSLIM

[insanezenmistress]

lol. Sammi said " what do we do with people who condone genicide, rape and torture?" Simple.... we ELECT them into high office.

[darpachief]

loool

[greywing81]

Seems like they are both hating on Keith.

[YoungLion1980]

i do not condem the old testament. and i do not condem gods judgement.

however harsh and cruel the wrath of god may seem, his judgement is just. everyone, and all those who have, and will suffer the wrath of god have, and have had freewill.

as christians we should pray for them that are in danger of gods wrath, that they may avoid his punishment, and turn away from provoking his wrath.

but as christians we should never condem the wrath of god. it is fair and just punishment.

[draconusrex33]

the destruction of the tribes of Canaanites was ordered by God because they had become evil and turned away from justice and did things like sacrifice children to idols.this is why they were ordered destroyed .the same will happen to those who practice evil and turn people from good.

if those tribes existed today even Islamic nations would order there destruction.

[YoungLion1980]

amen

[soapboxearth]

sammy you ooze hatred . get a life

[truthfreedom4all]

I just noticed Sami is making Satan's El Diablo hand sign in the picture.

[JP12akacoil]

Yup that's the befometh sign, goat of mendes.

[Superapeaholic]

no kidding..i was thinking the same thing...whats up with that

[truthfreedom4all]

Sami is unstable and pathetic. It's painful to listen to him.

[GompCelticPL]

That Sami guy should start to talk on the subject instead of attaking Keith personally. I mean that guy's great he makes damn great movies but I don't care if he knows how to debate, that's not the goddamn reason I'm watching that film :/

[johnhenrymc]

The people who condone mass murder and genocide are not True Christians. Period. Read in context. Islam was created with the influence of the catholic church around 300 years after Christ's resurrection to control the population which was becoming influenced by New testament teachings in all surrounding areas. Why would you debate religion and theology and deny any real debate of your own beliefs? That is very weak. Look up the Catholic/Islam connection..

[777alexandro]

jezus dont give us the order to slay non christians and moslims or evry other religion . he is doing it self to evry one who hates him and dont want to repent for the sins because the dont know the father neither the know jezus but evrybody who repent and stays in love in mercy as whe must do .. and if those persons accept jezus in there live,s he will not slay you .. so sami your wrong my friend

[777alexandro]

hahaha . oh my lord this guy sami dont no what it means . luke vers 27 .. slay my enemys before me said jezus . its just symbolic . it means dont talk to them dont hang around my enemys .. but if there repent its another story ... but when jezus come,s back he will destroy evry nation who wants to fight against him .. revelation 19 and 20 .. christ vs antichrist armeggedon meggido .. so sami dont no what he is talking about

[advil0069]

google allah is satan

[CreationistsWON]

?????? SAMI IS EVIL ITSELF, IF YOU SPEAK THAT WAY, no points at all !!

[mark727111]

A debate should concern any issues of either side. This is a biast debate to attack the bible, if they believed they where right, they would have to scrutenize their book at the same time, because you can't attack one side when the points can be used against the other in exactly the same manner!

[CBALLEN]

I sure looks like everytime that Sami attacks the old testament,he cuts the throat of Islam in doing so

[CBALLEN]

Sami calls Jesus a murderer,he's just another Muslim that trys to tell the CREATOR what he can or can't do.The Potter can do what ever He wants with His creation.

[Hebrews11and1]

I had to really laugh 4:37

Keith...the FBI is on to you! LOL

[amanda366]

haha, the second coming makes christianity about violence LOL.

Seriously keith just sealed the deal if christianity is not the truth then christians are no threat to anyone. The only time violence will happen is if Jesus really is God and sin really is a serious offence. In that case ther is no arguement.

But if it isn't true..... christians wont randomly act out Jesus' second coming.

THERE IS NO THREAT. What is this sami dude on about!?!

[sucambo]

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[EGITAYE]

There is no debate

[mantancan]

AHHAHAHAha this sami guy has nothing didnt make his point

[EGITAYE]

Keith: + 2

Sami: - 1

[PhoenixChampion]

Woooooh, woooooh!!! DO NOT attempt to use Luke 19:27, as you have stated that it is concerning the Day of the Lord, the second coming. In every scripture concerning that Day divides those who wicked and are of the world and many different doctrines of men, from the righteous, those that truly serve the Living God through Christ Jesus. You do it everytime...choppin' up scripture for your benefit. Your argument is blindly worded and directed...and noone HAS to follow a scholar...only God's Word.

[PhoenixChampion]

Jesusrules2012, don't curse another because they believe in the ways of men...if you know what is right by God, teach them and bless them. As for Sami Son, you debate to satisfy the depths of your own belly, shawtay. Only a weak mind will take account the lie you speak. If you know doctrine of the OT so well, you would know that every commandment God gave was promised to be done by His people, but the people turned each time they sinned against that promise...Speak ONLY what you know, Sami Son.

[PhoenixTears25]

Sami doesn't know what he's talking about, go Keith you won this one for sure!!

[DeathRattleShakes]

You guys see how rude Sami is? See how angry he gets? How sarcastic. He obviously has something to hide.

[lommylom]

its becuz islam is an angry religion,accept allah or be beheaded

[someguy6481]

@ jesusrules2012

"Go crawl back into that fantasy goo muck slime you claim to evolved from!!!!!!!! "

did Jesus teach you to say that? you're obviously a not very good christian. what happened to the kindness and mercy Jesus taught you to say and preach? what happened to "Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with GENTLENESS and RESPECT"? obviously you have none of these.

[trusleuthhound]

the moderator is very biased towards "sami" and sami came across as very aggresive and personal towards keith yet when the moderator came in he gives crap to keith but makes no mention of sami's behaviour. what a joke. Keith, good for you in keeping your patience. Its one thing i need to improve on cuz that otehr guy is asking for some serious reprocussions.

[xwaffles54]

Wrong.

[jesusrules2012]

Sami said people like this, referring to Christians should not be allowed in free society's and you know we have to do with people like that i don't have to answer that. No sami you don't have to answer that Sami because we see in the news every day what you do with Christians, your religion tortures and kills them! That is happening today and as I speak and you with your owns words condones it! YOU HYPOCRITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[trusleuthhound]

for real!

[lesterdiamond5]

@jesusrules2012 Listen to me. I'm a christian arab. ask any christian arab why they immigrate to western christian countries? they all say the same thing. TO GET AWAY FROM MUSLIM PERSECUTION against christians. It is the MOZZIES that should be BANNED from free societies. You give a muslim your pinky finger and they take the whole hand. They're the biggest liars & hypocrites like Muhammad. That pedophile stirs those gullible zombies to persecute Christians We opened our doors for them mistakenly!

[prince4king7]

@jesusrules2012 sami perhaps has closed eyes and ears when islam and muslims kills and tortures Christians in each and every single muslim country!!!

[Decenium]

@jesusrules2012

here is an enlightened idea, scrape religion ;)

[jesusrules2012]

Of course Mohammad permits the Torah, because he stole from it! He just changed some of it to fit his own agenda. God curses those that takes away or adds to his words. Muslims are following Satan and don't even realize it!

[xwaffles54]

HAHAHA That's funny that you said that. Who made the new testament? "God curses those that takes away or adds to his words."

The new testament is new scripture not written by god.

[jesusrules2012]

So are you admitting that the old testament is the word of God?

[xwaffles54]

No, but that's what most christian's believe. I myself am not christian.

[jesusrules2012]

I know you are not a Christian, you are a atheist. That is why I asked you. So your opinion on this matter does not apply here!

[xwaffles54]

Explain, i do not understand. Are you saying that because i am not christian, that my input in a christian debate about the old/new testament holds no weight?

[jesusrules2012]

This is a debate against a Muslim and a Christian, atheism does not apply here. Go crawl back into that fantasy goo muck slime you claim to evolved from!!!!!!!!

[xwaffles54]

You are a fool to think that because I dont belong to a religion that i cannot debate about it. You are a waste of my time.

[jesusrules2012]

And you are a waste of mine, so don't start something with me, because I will finnish it!!!!!!!!

[lommylom]

dont worry, cuz one day you and every unbeliever will bow down to Jesus and confess He is King. it is written. B O O Y A H !!!!

[superstudjock]

Well Jesus is God. So it would be Gods word. It says that in the new testament at the end of revelations. Rev. 22:18.

[xchampx]

You should have mentioned "Eye for an Eye tooth for a tooth" Scripture with turning the cheek. Thats the best one you left out.