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  • I had a dream where I suddenly realised it was a dream but this didn't cause me to wake. I tried to control everything about the dream, and I could. It didn't last long and, I believe, I forgot about it being a dream and it went back to being a normal dream where I couldn't control everything. True story.

    One of my favourites piece of logic is this:

    Speculation alone equals zero on a scale of probability.

    Good vid btw. Subbed

  • @2Jax

    Funny. :) Think I might quote you on that sometime.

  • @CMrace Be my guest

  • @2Jax What you experienced is known as a lucid dream. There are communities and resources for cultivating this as a hobby, but it is a very young practice and it is very hard to document much of what goes on around dream or sleep so the methods and theory is very open and ineffective as a result. Still, you should look it up if it sounds interesting.

  • @Teitaine It happened ages ago and I'm not too fussed about recreating it but thanks for the info all the same.

    I work as a cleaner and I had a dream a few days ago that I was moving a sharps bin when the lid came off and a needle flew out and stuck in my forehead! I started to panic about going for an HIV test and all the worry that was in store for me. I was so glad to wake up.

  • so if we move into space no planet, your ball logic will fail! :P cus the ball would have nowhere to fall, so as long as gravity is true, and that can only be a state if there is a mass around wich is large enough to support true gravity, and then that mass would actualy have to exist .., but since the mass is there and there is gravity that would all be true :P.. have no idea where im going whit this but it sounds so einsteinish :P

  • @FusionNinjin

    I disagree. The statement was assuming here on earth. Do I really need to specify all the variables to make the point? If you really want to get carried away you could say in another dimension I would be wrong also. Our expectations change on our observation of agents behaving in different environments.

    The ball itself has mass and thus gravity. I don't see how this relates to the point of my video.

    Proving gravity wasn't really the point I was trying to make.

  • @CMrace yes

  • I'm glad that you are following through with the series..

    I find it very odd, though, that you claim that there cannot be evidence for the existence of existence. Isn't literally everything / anything evidence demonstrating that existence exists?

    I'm looking forward to seeing where you are going with this.

    Do you ever do stickam or blogtv?

  • @AdamLore

    It's one of those rather odd philosophical stumbling blocks.

    You could be imagining all there is. You would never be able to tell the difference. Like dreaming for example. We really don't have any way to prove this isn't all some elaborate dream and the only thing that exists is our perception of that dream. It's dumb and unrealistic, but philosophically problematic.

    "Do you ever do stickam or blogtv?" No but I am interested, what do you think they could offer?

  • @CMrace

    That makes sense. I guess I would consider even a dream being part of "existence", though. I totally agree that it is pretty much impossible to prove that what we perceive is not an illusion, but even if it were an illusion, an illusion is still something.

    I think that you have a lot of offer in regards to doing stickam or a blogtv session. You can present your points in real time and often times can have a much faster and richer exchange.

  • @AdamLore

    Sounds cool. I'll have to check it out. Of the two which one do you think would best suit me blogtv or stickam?

    Your dreams are part of existence. They are a product of neurons firing in your brain. The only thing I would say is that you are not conscious by my definition.

    When dreaming rour brain is creating reality rather than perceiving it. To be conscious you must be percieving reality. This is why we must axiomatically claim existence exists. Or literally "life is but a dream"

  • @CMrace

    I can't say for sure, but I'd say stickam would probably suit you best.

    I'm not a big fan of Ayn Rand.

    Wikipedia has the following definition for Moral Realism, what do you think of it?

    Moral realism is the meta-ethical view which claims that: 1. Ethical sentences express propositions. 2. Some such propositions are true. 3. Those propositions are made true by objective features of the world, independent of subjective opinion.

  • @AdamLore

    I see your point about illusions. It depends on how we define them. some illusions are not percieving anything real others like magicians are. I am not to concerned about illusions being something.

    Here's what raw objectivism holds: "That which has no nature or attributes does not and cannot exist."

    If you like objectivism Wiki it. I think Rand got a little crazy when she became an "idol" (like Elrond Hubbard) but her views on metaphysics are good. IDK about capitalism & morality.

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