As far as our keen battle of wits goes, I'll admit your wits are probably a bit sharper than mine, at least as far as relevant quoting goes. I still disagree with you on the costuming/setting thing, but I can definitely see where you're coming from. Sometimes it does hurt a play to update its setting, because that removes some of the original context and meaning. The great thing about theater is, if we mess up, we can always try it a different way later!
@thevampirefrog06: No; it is just that I indulge in quoting far too much; sure but watch the excellent version the BBC made about Henry IV Part I and than imagine the Hotspur wearing modern business clothes when ragging himself senseless against Henry Bolingbroke! So until modern dressing becomes decent and honourable again no ancient plays are to be performed in it! I am glad that you can now understand my rejection of it; and modern theatre is such a mess that I am fed up with it for good!
If you're so dedicated to being faithful to the text, shouldn't you want Julius Caesar to wear Roman robes rather than an Elizabethan collar? The whole point of theater is that it takes you somewhere else. Don't forget that Shakespeare was writing for an Elizabethan audience, not us. If the audience saw ancient Rome as if it were Elizabethan England, it would be like us watching Hamlet in skinny jeans, which you seem to be against.
Fie! Monsieur Branagh! Fie! How could someone who has made a most excellent version of Henry V and a decent version of Hamlet turn a Shakespeare romance into a dumb American nonsense? Musicals are a disgrace: Even Monty Python and the Holy Grails gets boring and stupid as a musical! How could than the works Shakespeare defy them? They are haunted already by dull modern music and boring business clothes! As a punishment you should play the father of Prince Henry in Henry IV Part I & II!
@thevampirefrog06: But the comedies of Shakespeare are not very comical at all! Since Shakespeare does not create a funny core; they are usually romances surrounded with some forged elements of comedy; like officers speaking the wrong words all the time! And I care little about what you like or dislike: The facts remains that Shakespeare has to be placed with fancy renaissance dresses and proper ancient music! Nothing is more horrible than having Shakespeare performed in Business outfits!
@FireEyedMaidOfWar Either you are being very sarcastic or this conversation is lost. At this point, I'm not sure which. Considering how often Shakespeare is done in settings that aren't the Renaissance, even by the RSC, I'm leaning towards the former. Question: How do you feel about Branagh's version of Much Ado, which has more of the tone you seem to be looking for, but doesn't take place in the Renaissance?
@thevampirefrog06: But you do realize that the frequency of a behaviour done does not alter it from being an error? As for the play in question: It is awful; since the Shakespeare play was devised for the very ceremonial court would of Renaissance Europe and the play suffers therefore great harm if the actors behave like American cowboys and apropos Americans: The usage of American actors is another gaffe! Only Monsieur Branagh and his wife playing Beatrice & Benedict make some amends.
@FireEyedMaidOfWar Wow... I personally think you're wrong, and I think most of the modern Shakespearean community would disagree with you, but you're certainly entitled to your own opinion. Please respect the fact that the rest of us have our own opinion and can enjoy Shakespeare set in Elizabethan England, while still enjoying the fact that Shakespeare translates so well to other settings. It's a part of what makes him great. Can we stop clogging the comments and call a truce?
@thevampirefrog06: But that is not the question here! Since Monsieur Shakespeare has made it absolutely clear how his plays have to be performed and how they should not be brought to the stage (read the instructions Hamlet does give the actors for the mouse trap play if you are ignorant about this); and of course how his plays should be watched (stated in the prologue of Henry V); and I have no desire for quarrelling; but if you like Shakespeare in other settings you should watch Akira Kurosawa.
@thevampirefrog06: As he has made a Japanese Macbeth with Throne of Blood and a Japanese King Lear with Ran; though these movies do not use the verses of Shakespeare, the tragic aspect has greatly been improve and Kurosawa was even able to repair the tragic flaw of King Lear and turned it into a real tragedy; as the misunderstanding between Lear and Cordelia works in the formal world of ancient Japan much better.
@FireEyedMaidOfWar Thanks, I'll check those out. Looking at Hamlet, though, he gives them acting advice. He says nothing on whether or not they should play it in an ancient Greek or contemporary Danish setting, which was our original dispute. Shakespeare's stage directions and set descriptions tend to be pretty sparse beyond the basics, but his plays weren't limited to Tudor England. They take place in ancient Rome, or Greece, or Scotland or Denmark.
@thevampirefrog06: You should not try to limit this keen encounter of our wits! The question was: If Shakespeare should be played in ancient costumes (not exceeding the Renaissance, since Roman an Medieval costumes are fine with me as well, though the Renaissance Coriolanus of the BBC is better than the proper Roman dress Julius Caesar for example) or not; and Shakespeare is of course a timeless poet as you may learn from the verses Cassius spoke over dead Caesar:
no part 4 ? curious - ya, work in progress?
123ZAC4567890 3 months ago
um part 4 please?
Breanna19921 6 months ago
@Breanna19921 Right?? Haha! Are you going to watch Shakespeare in the Park tomorrow night too? Haha!
dicquiloan 6 months ago
HEY! You with the face! I demand part 4! Snap Snap!!!
SpiderXxPirate 9 months ago 2
As far as our keen battle of wits goes, I'll admit your wits are probably a bit sharper than mine, at least as far as relevant quoting goes. I still disagree with you on the costuming/setting thing, but I can definitely see where you're coming from. Sometimes it does hurt a play to update its setting, because that removes some of the original context and meaning. The great thing about theater is, if we mess up, we can always try it a different way later!
thevampirefrog06 10 months ago
@thevampirefrog06: No; it is just that I indulge in quoting far too much; sure but watch the excellent version the BBC made about Henry IV Part I and than imagine the Hotspur wearing modern business clothes when ragging himself senseless against Henry Bolingbroke! So until modern dressing becomes decent and honourable again no ancient plays are to be performed in it! I am glad that you can now understand my rejection of it; and modern theatre is such a mess that I am fed up with it for good!
FireEyedMaidOfWar 10 months ago
If you're so dedicated to being faithful to the text, shouldn't you want Julius Caesar to wear Roman robes rather than an Elizabethan collar? The whole point of theater is that it takes you somewhere else. Don't forget that Shakespeare was writing for an Elizabethan audience, not us. If the audience saw ancient Rome as if it were Elizabethan England, it would be like us watching Hamlet in skinny jeans, which you seem to be against.
thevampirefrog06 11 months ago
0 dislikes? Aww yeah
Onami3 11 months ago
I love her "yippee!!" as she walks away.
thevampirefrog06 11 months ago
such terrible synchronized swimming! they're all standing on the bottom! urgh i hate how movies always make synchro look stupid.. :( its hardcore!
pearlearring17 11 months ago
You promised 5 months ago!
Hinzmana 1 year ago
aaah nathan lane!!!!! <3
Guesswho43110 1 year ago
Seriously!?! This is killing me, I can't find this movie anywhere. They don't even have it on Amazon... :(
echoate 1 year ago
I love this movie! Nathan Lane and Kenneth Branagh together?! Priceless!
Titaniacy 1 year ago 4
@Titaniacy I agree, you should watch the out takes ken and Nathan burst out laughing..it so so funny
rosalindhulse 1 year ago
Fie! Monsieur Branagh! Fie! How could someone who has made a most excellent version of Henry V and a decent version of Hamlet turn a Shakespeare romance into a dumb American nonsense? Musicals are a disgrace: Even Monty Python and the Holy Grails gets boring and stupid as a musical! How could than the works Shakespeare defy them? They are haunted already by dull modern music and boring business clothes! As a punishment you should play the father of Prince Henry in Henry IV Part I & II!
FireEyedMaidOfWar 1 year ago
@FireEyedMaidOfWar It's a comedy. It doesn't have to be serious. And some of us like Cole Porter and Irving Berlin, thank you very much.
thevampirefrog06 11 months ago
@thevampirefrog06: But the comedies of Shakespeare are not very comical at all! Since Shakespeare does not create a funny core; they are usually romances surrounded with some forged elements of comedy; like officers speaking the wrong words all the time! And I care little about what you like or dislike: The facts remains that Shakespeare has to be placed with fancy renaissance dresses and proper ancient music! Nothing is more horrible than having Shakespeare performed in Business outfits!
FireEyedMaidOfWar 11 months ago
@FireEyedMaidOfWar Either you are being very sarcastic or this conversation is lost. At this point, I'm not sure which. Considering how often Shakespeare is done in settings that aren't the Renaissance, even by the RSC, I'm leaning towards the former. Question: How do you feel about Branagh's version of Much Ado, which has more of the tone you seem to be looking for, but doesn't take place in the Renaissance?
thevampirefrog06 11 months ago
@thevampirefrog06: But you do realize that the frequency of a behaviour done does not alter it from being an error? As for the play in question: It is awful; since the Shakespeare play was devised for the very ceremonial court would of Renaissance Europe and the play suffers therefore great harm if the actors behave like American cowboys and apropos Americans: The usage of American actors is another gaffe! Only Monsieur Branagh and his wife playing Beatrice & Benedict make some amends.
FireEyedMaidOfWar 11 months ago
@FireEyedMaidOfWar Wow... I personally think you're wrong, and I think most of the modern Shakespearean community would disagree with you, but you're certainly entitled to your own opinion. Please respect the fact that the rest of us have our own opinion and can enjoy Shakespeare set in Elizabethan England, while still enjoying the fact that Shakespeare translates so well to other settings. It's a part of what makes him great. Can we stop clogging the comments and call a truce?
thevampirefrog06 11 months ago
@thevampirefrog06: But that is not the question here! Since Monsieur Shakespeare has made it absolutely clear how his plays have to be performed and how they should not be brought to the stage (read the instructions Hamlet does give the actors for the mouse trap play if you are ignorant about this); and of course how his plays should be watched (stated in the prologue of Henry V); and I have no desire for quarrelling; but if you like Shakespeare in other settings you should watch Akira Kurosawa.
FireEyedMaidOfWar 11 months ago
@thevampirefrog06: As he has made a Japanese Macbeth with Throne of Blood and a Japanese King Lear with Ran; though these movies do not use the verses of Shakespeare, the tragic aspect has greatly been improve and Kurosawa was even able to repair the tragic flaw of King Lear and turned it into a real tragedy; as the misunderstanding between Lear and Cordelia works in the formal world of ancient Japan much better.
FireEyedMaidOfWar 11 months ago
@FireEyedMaidOfWar Thanks, I'll check those out. Looking at Hamlet, though, he gives them acting advice. He says nothing on whether or not they should play it in an ancient Greek or contemporary Danish setting, which was our original dispute. Shakespeare's stage directions and set descriptions tend to be pretty sparse beyond the basics, but his plays weren't limited to Tudor England. They take place in ancient Rome, or Greece, or Scotland or Denmark.
thevampirefrog06 11 months ago
@thevampirefrog06: You should not try to limit this keen encounter of our wits! The question was: If Shakespeare should be played in ancient costumes (not exceeding the Renaissance, since Roman an Medieval costumes are fine with me as well, though the Renaissance Coriolanus of the BBC is better than the proper Roman dress Julius Caesar for example) or not; and Shakespeare is of course a timeless poet as you may learn from the verses Cassius spoke over dead Caesar:
FireEyedMaidOfWar 10 months ago
Cassius: Stoop then, and wash. How many ages hence Shall this our lofty scene be acted o'er In States unborn and accents yet unknown!
Brutus: How many times shall Caesar bleed in sport, That now on Pompey's basis lies along No worthier than the dust!
Cassius: So oft as that shall be, So often shall the knot of us be call'd The men that gave their country liberty.
[though the real problem with modern dress is that they look so terribly non-heroic and boring]
FireEyedMaidOfWar 10 months ago
@FireEyedMaidOfWar Ha! Now that's a reason against modern costuming that I can get behind!
thevampirefrog06 10 months ago
gosh why is he walking like that LOL 3.17 ?
deviki 1 year ago
@deviki maby he'sgot somethin down his pants,
rosalindhulse 1 year ago
More More More!!!!! Where is the rest of it????
Sessy15 1 year ago 2
@Sessy15 it will be on soon i promis
rosalindhulse 1 year ago
@rosalindhulse soon?? pleaaase!!!!
moonlitgirl25 9 months ago
I need to rent this. Looks good.
TheCrypticPie 1 year ago
@TheCrypticPie yea it is. infact its on amoz for a really cheap price.
rosalindhulse 1 year ago
This is a really, really charming movie:)
magicpony9 1 year ago
Who just puts three parts of something on YouTube? Honestly.
Nopperabou 1 year ago 20
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, tell me, where I can find part 4 on youtube:)
Alcisko 1 year ago 13
do you have part 4?
pentime6 1 year ago 2
Timothy spall has good legs for such a body. It can't surprise me that he is in a musical for he was in "Sweeney Todd".
pentime6 1 year ago
Timothy spall has good legs for such a body.
pentime6 1 year ago 3
It's Wormtail!!! :P
RealCheeseOnly 2 years ago 2
@RealCheeseOnly And Lockhart! XD
AkiraChan24 3 months ago