Tutorial - Chip tracking

[NotAnyOldUsername]

Thanks for this and other tutorials, they are very helpful with the explanations. :-)

[Drutsonomg]

Found everything, just in next your video, thanks!

[Drutsonomg]

Cool man, real fresh. I've been trying to whack out some chiptunes but i'm lacking samples. Can u tell me where'd you got them? Or how'd you made them? Or maybe post them somhere or send them to me? Thanks!

[vincentizghra]

Small question, is it possible to create music in other time signatures than 4/4 in trackers? Like 15/16th 9/8 13/16 7/8 and so on?

[crocz]

@vincentizghra Sure, look at somethins like Venetian Snares. Most music he makes is stuff like 7/8 and 11/7 and alike.

[vincentizghra]

@crocz Maybe I should have been clearer. Most of the music I write is in 15/16 5/4 7/8 9/8 13/16 and so on, is it possible to write in such time signatures in a tracker. Aaron Funk(aka Venetian Snares) adores cubase for some reason and relies heavily and vstis a decent amount of his input comes from piano rolls and his output. But is it possible in a tracker? (just to be extra clear cubase is not a tracker :S)

[crocz]

@vincentizghra Venetian Snares has used Renoise since 2006 to this day almost exclusively. In his early days he also used OctaMED a lot. There is a video of his track Vache playing in it, take a look at it. And yes, it is very possible to make music in any time signature in a tracker.

[vincentizghra]

@crocz Yea rossz is from 2004 I believe in a breakcore documentary from 2007 he says he almost exclusively uses Cubase. After some more research it seems obvious that trackers don't have a clue about time signatures anyway so you can write in any time signature but you will never have any indication of what time signature you're writing in. 1/32 all the way.

[crocz]

@vincentizghra Rossz is from 2005 and it isn't done in Renoise. Cavalcade of glee and his work beyond that is done mainly on Renoise. There are videos on youtube of him where he uses Renoise live. He's also on the Renoise forums, and is mentioned in the site as an artist who uses the software. End of argument.

[crocz]

@vincentizghra I don't understand what you mean by trackers don't have a clue about time signatures. If you mean like you can't just make a new project and select something like 56/-3, then yes. That's just not how it works. But that doesn't mean you can't make music in any signature, it just has to be done manually, just like making 4/4. But whatever, I think most music done in obscure signatures is just pretentious bullshit.

[vincentizghra]

@crocz Ye that's what I mean by "trackers don't have a clue", you can do it, you just do it manually. Respecting your view, I can't find that writing in any kind of time signature would be pretentious, most of that which I hear in my head is not in 4/4, why would I then create anything else? It's not like it's harder to write in any specific time signature, it doesn't require anything. It just another dynamic. Like... velocity mapping... and without that how pale music would be.

[crocz]

@vincentizghra I believe several studies have shown that 4/4 rhythms and such are the most natural for some reason. It sort of is harder because of that reason, and also because we are just so used to it. But there's no reason why you couldn't learn just about any other signature. But who cares about time signatures, let's all just make sweet soothing beatless drone ambient!

[vincentizghra]

@crocz Well yeah of course, there are a lot of studies that show that 4/4 rhythms are easiest to digest among western societies, but also shown that other cultures don't respond the same way to these studies. Some feel that 5/4 is most natural because that's what they've heard all their childhood and previous generations(not that i know if that has anything to do with it). But I don't think our cultural heritage should define what we do with wish to create. Some culture has 7/4 as standard.

[nitromedude99]

can you come home to me and help me?

[legalyzefreed0m]

What software is this? Is there any way to run it on Mac?

[kaveenr1]

@legalyzefreed0m  it is a DOS PROGRAM

[killerbanjo]

@kaveenr1 Its called Milky Tracker and its a xp program

[quigonjinntte]

@legalyzefreed0m You could run this program on Mac by using a virtual machine on your Mac installing windows on it... Or you can use a windows emulator.

But the easiest way is to simply download the Mac version form the Milkytracker homepage. ;)

[Techlur]

crocz, just to make things a bit clearer for you, what all these comments are concerning cracks/keygens are for pirated programs.

The software used to give you a fake key to activate the programs are called keygens.

Most of the time, traditionally, they have chip tunes/other 8bit music playing in the background of the program. So... yea...

[Jostone102]

Finally a video with some form of explanation. Thanks.

[Gladiator2155]

what's the name of this program?

[SiGhast]

Very helpful tutorial. Thank you very much!

[aP0cAl1pSeHacker]

damn its so hard for me !!!

i need some chiptunes for keyGen

[crocz]

@aP0cAl1pSeHacker what's keyGen?

[aP0cAl1pSeHacker]

@crocz

u know ... its generating keys for games .. softwares

[crocz]

@aP0cAl1pSeHacker So...you need chiptunes for generating keys for software? I don't get it...

[aP0cAl1pSeHacker]

@crocz

xD ... no but i need a music to put on keygen .. backround music .. can you make for me one pls ? im nub on making chiptunes

[crocz]

@aP0cAl1pSeHacker No, I don't want to be involved in illegal activity.

[jomaster56]

What programm is this?

[NioNPLaNeT]

milky tracker its easy to find google it and look for a download i think the second one works

[sh1monn]

got an idea why my bass column sounds on the left in my headphones and hi-hat column on the right? i didnt change any settings whatsoever

[sh1monn]

never mind i got it, set playback mode to protracker instead of fasttracker

[waggabiggadoo]

NOSTALGIA

[lookoutamouse]

this is not a good tutorial

[waggabiggadoo]

lol

[Zedazih]

I don't get any sound from my notes :S

[Doyubi]

How to learn: 1. It is essential that you know the effects. For starters 0XX, 9XX, AXX, FXX and RXX are most important if you ask me. 2. You need to understand the hexadecimal system. Where decimal is a 10-base system, hex is base-16. 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F. F equals 15. 10 equals 16. 3. Now use these together; These examples I've used a lot. samp R03 - R02 - R01 Samp AFF LoopSamp 940 LoopSamp 980 Play around and you will get it :)

[yourmumblowsgoats]

milky tracker is a rather easy program to use and well theres plenty of tut videos on the official site along with a whole host of links to other site full of lovely people to help... just ask, we're not that scary

[crocz]

You can't learn a tracker program in weeks. For me it took over 2 years.

[xxmago]

Many thanks for this :D Now I'm making my own chiptunes

[Sepirothkai]

Omg that's awesome! :O

So that's where video game music comes from..

[vegardertilbake1]

not really

[dancefloorattack]

:/

Can Some Send Me The Download Link?

I Can't Seem To Find It

:[

[djtoxicz0r]

what are the character keys?!

[paralasalud]

your keyboard

[Vyzer]

Awesomenessness.

[djtwinflower]

A good tutorial by a newcommer, keep it up

[smiljanicn]

I am not that good in editing notes, that this software supports MIDI input?

[rudmad00]

im not an expert but i think the whole point is that it isnt a MIDI program at all

[rudmad00]

nevermind.

[badsectoracula]

Yes, when you run it click on the program's icon at the top left corner of the window. From there click on "Preferences...", select your MIDI device from the combo box and check the Enable MIDI device checkbox. I have a USB M-Audio MIDI keyboard and i can use it to enter notes with Milkytracker.

Note that if you want to test the samples it would be a nice idea to enable "Jam channels" from the options because

[smiljanicn]

thanks man, that worked! i connected my kurzweil and now am ready to rock!

[djExprice]

Reminds me of that little game in Gameboy Camera.

[Axlzero451]

I still use that :)

[MrBarcode]

Good tut but man why cant you fucking speak up and explain wtf you're doing in more detail?

[crocz]

Because i didn't have a mic at the time.

[milkycrap]

kewl. :)

[broaff2]

Nice tutorial, i learned much from this thanks!

[1337Pwnag3]

How the fuck do I even ass notes or sounds or whatever I am supposed to call it >:(

[crocz]

To ass notes, you need to have the recording option on. Pressing spacebar should work. Other than that it's hard to say what's wrong.

[pianokid100]

where the ass are the samples i have to add to it ? what file do i open when i wan to open a sample

[DISCORLY]

Thanks! Best newbie tutorial I've seen so far :)!

[daleroflrofl]

i have typed out notes ie. a c and e. but when i click play sng it doesnt make any noise. why is this?

[crocz]

Did you create and instrument and load a sample to it?

[daleroflrofl]

meh it doesnt matter anymore i just use ejay now. its a whole lot easier. but you are pretty sick at this.

[TheSirCommunity]

god like

[LaurentVKeulen]

Anyway, I've learned a lot, as in where to put your volume commands for an effective result. Great video, but how does this 'sweeping' thing work?

[yahags]

Awesome video. ;)

It's amazing how different trackers (as in people who use trackers) all have their own ways of doing things. I know most of the stuff you showed here but I was doing it in different order sometimes, different ways. Trough only LOOKING at yourself putting in notes and effects I've learned a lot.

Thanks a lot for this vid and upload some more. ;) Maybe with some stuff like echo, octave +1 -1 combo notes (the very characteristic "blump" sound) and other haxxery. greetz

[crocz]

YAY! I made a commentary with the new youtube annotation feature : )

[AllThatStuffVids]

how do you ad songs to the channels

[crocz]

You type the notes with your character-keys : )

[Dudelsarg]

I got a question. What did that number mean? The white are the notes, the bue is the instrument. but what about the green and the pink/yellow numbers?

[crocz]

Green is volume column, pink is effect number and yellow is effect parametres.

[sanitysama]

MilkyTracker

[Draik8293]

how do i make notes? i can't do it :/ what are the character keys? it isn't working :o

[sanitysama]

He made all the instruments before shooting the video. They are on the top section labeled "INS" but none of them have names, just memory locations (01, 02, 03, etc.) If you want to know how to make the samples, watch ?v=0F5PrQvkS0U

[xbacksteinx]

press space first

[CHR1STK1LLER]

this is a really stupid question, but i just want to know

what buttons do you press to make the notes?

[crocz]

the character keys.

[nadmenniyi]

Ah, very cool to see other people's thought process on this stuff. I don't see why people expect tutorials to serve them everything on a silver platter (without even reading into it at all), but I did learn a few things by watching this, so thank you for sharing. :]

[krissdeelux]

whatever you fuckers, if you want a tutor, go buy yourself one, and leave the man alone. nice vids, crocz, I actually learned a few things from watching them : )

(unlike those other fuktards...)

[crocz]

Always happy to assist ;)

[600FPT]

good work !!!

[crocz]

thx

[Beck436]

so this is milky, huh? sounds pretty good, i'll look into it, i'm usually choosey about which trackers i use

[Craptron2000]

crocz, you got served by esquivel100. It's on! Dance off time.

[Teemuo]

Lol, esquivel100. You just don't know anything about trackers!

[crocz]

right on my good man :)

[esquivel100]

and you know what? you can find those videos here in youtube lol!

then tell me that you can compose anything with the drums! and you know what dude? fuck off, go ahead with the games and with your hand jacking off, see you like to use your hands lol lol, the shit program you're using is like playing fucking guitar hero, only in your dreams!!! lol lol or in the software or game

[crocz]

You can't find those videos. I know there are chiptune tutorials and milkytracker videos here, but these are made by me. Rest of your comment is just bunch of unintelligent insults. Try to be reasonable or you'll get the whole demoscene folks on your back.

[esquivel100]

so this how you spend your time? no wonder why you can download the video, get a life, not everything in life is jerk off and video games, bitch

[crocz]

Making music makes you 'no life' people? I made three tutorials for helping people and i spent time like 20mins. Yea that is sooooo nolife. I see that you probably also are a muscian, well least i compose my own tunes.

[esquivel100]

I'm not going to post my compositions, I'm not stupid, playing all day makes you no life, and pick up a fucking instrument and compose some shit, a fucking program where you just look some beats and that's it?? fuck you dude, what about your videos about games?? no life accept it, probably you're just a lazy fat fucker

[crocz]

All day? I make music when i hane an inspiration. You can't compose new music or create any kind of art with out it. Otherwise it's bad. I also play drums, but it's not really an instrument to compose anything. That tune you heard (i assume you listened it) just came into my mind as i made it. And I don't spend all day playing games. I have friends and most certainly im not fat.

[esquivel100]

yeah you gather together, buy some extra large meat pizzas, 3 liter soda for each one somo twinkies, some doritos, and yall stay at your friend's basement, lol, and dude, learn the diference this is not a tutorial, is just you "making" a song... if you play drums, why do you put the rythym wrong? it's a basic rythym and it's wrong

[crocz]

yous it's a tutorial. I'm showing how to use simple tricks when making simple chiptune. And i assume you mean by saying "yall stay at your friend's basement," a LAN party. Just for ya know, i've NEVER been any. ;)

[LiquidChem]

DUDE THIS IS NOT A FUCKING TUTORIAL NO ONE IS EXPLAINING ANYTHING AT ALL!! I MIGHT AS WELL BE WATCHING WHAT YOURE DOING THROUGH BINOCULARS OVER YOUR SHOULDER, AND CALL THAT A TUTORIAL?!!

go to the propellerheads site.. THOSE are tutorials. youre supposed to explain what the fuck youre doing

[crocz]

If you need me explaining what i'm doing in that, you should first look up some less advanced tutorials. Those who have used tracker and know the basics of it, should see what's happening.

[LiquidChem]

ok but dude, a tutorial explains what is going on, like ok, even if its advanced, you should still say SOMETHING!!! so can you point me in the right direction as to a beginning tutorial? i cant get milky to do the things you do!!!

[inthefade]

I agree. none of these tutorials make any sense. You can't make a tutorial where you are not explaining what you are doing. like, what buttons are you pressing to do all that shit!? I'm so lost.

[esquivel100]

inspiration? so you were inspired when making that shit? how fucked up you are, sorry to tell you but it's the truth

[crocz]

Yes, i get inspiration when making chiptunes. I find them very enjoyable. And what's the truth, you just asked a bunch of questions. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with the rhythm

[esquivel100]

the truth is that sucks and you were inspired

[esquivel100]

of course you can compose things, listen to yyz live version from rush, to moby dick in madison square garden from led zeppelin, listen to in a gadda da vida from iron butterfly the 17 minute song, steve gadd, dave weckl and vinnie colauita a 9 min composition and tony royster jr when he was 12 an many many more

[KanbeiWarrior]

Nice video dude

Let's see if this maybe can help me :P