Chris Hamilton on the design of the 2013 Ford Fusion

[SectorNine50]

@ACS607 Sorry, I missed your name. You are a moron as well.

You are all morons.

[ACS607]

@SectorNine50 Yeah well your mum's a moron, but I don't hold that against her do i?

[SectorNine50]

@AndyAEC01 @iDiggMGL You are both morons.

[iDiggMGL]

@SectorNine50 You are a moron.

[ACS607]

@SectorNine50 I've been telling i-DICK SUCK-MGL for a month now. Maybe he'll finally get the picture now! So can AndyAE!

[iDiggMGL]

@ACS607 Lol, I love how you only prove you're a moron. You don't know how to read :D Maybe dyslexic? In any case you have issues.

[nicisdisturbed]

Amazing looking car, complete jaguar xf rip but good looking car. It's made me think about one when it's released in the uk as the mondeo next yr

[glyakk]

I am speachless at the quality this car seems to radiate. Ford really has outdone itself with this. If I had only one complaint, it is the ford logo, it just looks so dated. I have never had a problem with the logo until now... I still want one though!

[Stecbine]

FORD knocked one out of the park with this gorgeous Aston Martin looking Fusion! It won the fan choice award at this years Detroit Auto show and for good reason! I'd buy this in a heartbeat :D

[joaharu]

for some reason the design reminds me of the Schreyer Optima. Which is a Good thing.

The Kia Optima is still the best looking car by far. But this fusion is clearly the second best

looking car there is so far.

[silvaraci]

Sorry but loock like a Aston Martin V8 vantage... can you guys cam be more criative?

[Burnabus]

Chevrolet is the new oldsmobile. Only old people drive them. (Minus the camaro and corvette)

[lffit]

Beautiful design Ford do such great work, frontal, profile, my only slight criticism is the rear end.

[dahgutone]

Looks good. Probably better than a Sonata.

[Revenant7n]

When Chevrolet developed the new Malibu, they are quoted as saying the only car they benchmarked was the previous Malibu. I am so enthusiastic about Ford. Ford is reaching for new levels never found in this segment before. This car is a midsize family sedan, and remains somehow beautiful. Please, Ford, keep this up and never rest.

[omarbigo57]

Look like a luxury car

[gtilover11]

Thank gosh I'm not the only one that realizes that the antenna is ugly...

[flysonek]

beautiful car ,cheap ugly antenna look spoils it..

[TheMainMan318]

you can tell they aimed the front to look like an aston martin, they look pretty damn close. look at that grill and hood and that line on the side. all from the aston. i like it though

[poccha99]

I think Ford has hit the nail in the head this time. This is almost like a hybrid of BMW Aston Martin and Jaguar. I cant wait to test drive this one...

[Taurusboy07]

This not a Aston Martin grill. It resembles one but it is the same look on the current Taurus lower grill but is larger and is higher.

[Taurusboy07]

Simply amazing.

[binhcadillac]

Ford is quality cars, now



[Nelsa123]

Now that it's launched he can get a good night's sleep. He could use it. It's more than earned.

[ACS607]

Wow. I didn't know Ford could make an Aston Martin look ugly and boring! Ford, if i wanted to buy an Aston Martin but couldn't afford one, i'd just save up until i could actually afford it. I'm not impressed at all!

[iDiggMGL]

@ACS607 That's not the point. The point is to have a car designed to 100% at all points for a great price. Aston Martin cars don't offer what this car offers.

[ACS607]

@iDiggMGL Well in Europe the mondeo (which this will be soon) is synonymous with a certain class of people and although it sells decently, it is not car people are proud to own and its name and badge have a poor reputation. So now when i start seeing this new one parked on every corner, it's going to make me forget and ignore just what made aston martins so unique. I'm afraid ford have ripped off a feature that have made astons so recognisable and that for me is wrong.

[iDiggMGL]

@ACS607 Well, I know everybody is saying it, but it's true: Ford used to own a pretty large portion of Aston Martin until recently. I refuse to believe people aren't proud to own the car when they dropped the bills to pay for it. I didn't buy my 2010 Fusion because it had four wheels and an engine. I bought it because I liked it. And maybe it's time for a change for the niche car company. If that look was easily copied, maybe it's not a premium look anymore.

[ACS607]

@iDiggMGL When this comes out specifically in the UK, it will either be bought by families who want a car that's decent and won't cost the earth to run. The Passat and the has gone upmarket so it's price reflects that, the insignia is similar to the ford and the rest are not the main competitors, so many people just go for the Ford. But otherwise, the majority of sales for the Ford come from companies. That's why i said people aren't all that proud to own one. That's why the bmw 3er outsells it.

[iDiggMGL]

@ACS607 Again, people just don't buy cars because they serve a basic purpose. You buy something you like. If you like motorcycles but need a family car, you buy the family car you like the best. U.S. standards have been lower than U.K. standards, but that doesn't mean they were shitboxes; that's your issue. I can appreciate Aston Martin's, just not for the price. It's just no justified to me. The Aston grill is different, which isn't necessarily amazing for many.

[ACS607]

@iDiggMGL My point exactly. Because americans don't really care about Aston Martins, it's fine for them to copy a trademark grill that makes an Aston unique from any other car manufacturer. In Europe and in the UK, Astons are adored which makes it pitty for us. I beg to differ on your first point, that's why Hyundais have sold well in the US and not the UK since it hit its shores. In the UK, the mondeo will just be a company car choice, but in the us its different. I'll stick to European brands.

[iDiggMGL]

@ACS607 You can put words in the mouths of million of people with different ways of thinking. I am one U.S. citizen with a set of experiences that have brought me to the conclusion of Aston Martins. You CAN NOT, then, apply that to Americans, in general. It's no secret that design cues are favored in some areas than others, but that doesn't mean you can predict anything. Most reregistered republicans said they'd never vote for, now, President Obama, yet he won a large portion of their vote.

[ACS607]

@iDiggMGL I can predict things, if i have enough evidence to give me a picture. Comments about the controversial styling of the global ford focus, sales targets and patterns ect. Predictions are basically assumptions. I might be wrong, but even though ford plugged the mondeo in casino royal, why is it selling in less number then before? Because people have decided they no longer want it. It is company car schemes and leasing that has saved it from death. It doesn't appeal to people full stop.

[iDiggMGL]

@ACS607 No, predictions are not assumptions. To estimate something is to look at evidence. To assume something is to take a wild guess having only seen the surface of a situation. Again, comments don't always foretell actions. Because people don't buy cars just because they're in movies?

You've lost yourself in your point. Regardless of what you think everybody thinks, this car's reason for existence is fuel economy and design.

[iDiggMGL]

@ACS607 Yes, you've lost yourself completely, bro, are you even reading what you're saying? I don't argue my opinion because it's a known and excepted fact that opinions change. You assume that the car won't sell because it hasn't sold well in the past. I'm telling you PEOPLE CHANGE. Talk is cheap and doesn't automatically translate to the actions people do.

You don't buy the car because James Bond used it. You buy the car because you found out about it in the movie. Continued...

[iDiggMGL]

@ACS607 Continued... Ads don't SELL you anything, it's what the companies are TRYING to sell you. People aren't robots that respond to the slightest stimulation.

You're just overcomplicating the situation. Everything flows together. High gas prices -> Consumers complain -> Target market -> Fuel economy conscious consumers (i.e. most people, nowadays) -> Product is designed -> Product is purchased.

[iDiggMGL]

@ACS607 Continued... Packaging and technology are one and the same, and aren't a reason for the car's existence. The reason why packages are offered with cars is because one size doesn't fit all. Brand and history also have very little to do with the car's existence. History doesn't foretell what a product will be. A product defines itself. Does the Ford Pinto represent Ford? No. No it doesn't because Ford has made better cars than the Pinto.

[ACS607]

@iDiggMGL Life style is the biggest reason for it's existence. Fuel economy and design set it apart from it's competitors. If people's reasons for buying a car was just design and economy, then there would be no need for manufactures to spend millions of pounds in research and development and lose money on profit for the sake of design and economy. There would be no hybrid, ev vehicle technology family cars, diesel engined performance BMW's etc. There's alot more to car design then you think!

[iDiggMGL]

@ACS607 You're just trying to argue with me. Life style is LITERALLY the reason I gave for it existing: fuel economy and design. Both of these are essential if the car is to fit in someones life style. I never said all cars were built around fuel eco and design. Read what I said: The Ford Fusion was built around that criteria.

On top of that, hybrid, ev's, family cars, and diesel engines are ALL APART OF FUEL ECONOMY. Hybrids, no duh. EV, come on. Diesel, really? All part of fuel economy. Cont.

[ACS607]

@iDiggMGL I meant lifestyle in terms of eg. a young graduate starting in a business consultancy, has an active lifestyle, has just moved to the city and finds himself wanting to buy Audi a3. Then when he gets promoted at work, decides he wants to upgrade to a4. DUH, ev, diesel, hybrids are part of alternative power sources which relate to lifestyles and image. A 4cy ed BMW can out run a prius on speed, mpg and distances between filling up, but people want to be perceived as green.

[iDiggMGL]

@ACS607 Lol, again, you just repeated what I said. If you have an active lifestyle, wouldn't you want good gas mileage? Kid just graduates and wants a $27,000 car, okay. That doesn't explain anything.

Hybrids are still cleaner than diesel cars, derp, that's why they're seen as greener. Filling up less is no indication, the BMW probably has a bigger gas tank. My car goes 700 miles in between fill up, beats the Prius MPG ESTIMATE and is faster but that doesn't make it greener than a Prius.

[ACS607]

@iDiggMGL Well according to you, lifestyle is design and economy right? What do you do then? Drive around slowly to be economical? Turn off the radio and air conditioning to keep the mpg up? No! An active lifestyle is not good gas mileage! Where did you go to school man? I can't believe some of the things you've come up with. ARE YOU SERIOUS MAN? Do you even know the manufacturing process of a Prius? Green? when you have to use electricity from a power station, when they have to source and cont.

[iDiggMGL]

@ACS607 I don't have to drive slowly. My car can go up to 47mph while only using the car's battery. Turn off the radio? Bro, phones with 1200mAh batteries can access radio and last for hours: it's not going to kill a rechargeable batter. Yes, I don't use A/C. I roll down windows...

No, you sad fool, the Prius has a smaller carbon footprint. Considerably so. I suggest you look some shit up, yo.

[ACS607]

@iDiggMGL No it doesn't. How fuking stupid can you get? A mexican built TDI Jetta sold in your stupid country has a smaller co2 footprint than a prius. Research all the COUNTRIES where parts are sourced and shipped for the electric motor. All that for what? For an mpg that can be found in a VW TDI engine. They've raped your brains with all this marketing bullshit and you just took it up the ass, didn't you.

[iDiggMGL]

@ACS607 No, see, you don't think of the whole picture. The amount of standard car batteries end up in land fills. The amount of waste produced by those batteries. The amount of non-recylable materials those cars are made of, including leather, which isn't biodegradable, the amount of wear the cars gets because of it's gas sole dependency. Where the parts come from for Hybrid/electric batteries don't matter when they last 4x as long as a standard gas guzzling car.

[ACS607]

@iDiggMGL It's you that doesn't see the picture. Research the production process for the Prius. Just fuking research it and then come back 2 me! The lifespan of batteries in a vehicle is unproven in real life situations so you can't use that argument. How many people have complained about battery life spans in a laptop? They're pretty much the same as in electric cars. A car that is kept for more than 10 years has been officially proven to be more environmentally friendly than a new car being ..

[iDiggMGL]

@ACS607 I HAVE DONE THE RESEARCH, NUMBNUTS! WHY THE FUCK DO YOU THINK I'M TELLING YOU TO RESEARCH?! Typical car battery lasts 3-5 years. Tesla's start at 160 miles per charge; go up to 300+ miles per charge. So, a ten year old Hybrid is more eco friendly, still, than a 10 year old gas guzzling car? FACT?

[ACS607]

@iDiggMGL produced, even if the engine produce co2 emissions. FACT! Especially considering the co2 produced by sourcing and shipping parts to make the prius battery (as I've said at least three times but evidently your too stupid to take note). Most cars are upto 80% recyclable including dashboard and seats etc.. You call me ignorant for not going on the audi usa site. why? Do i care about audi prices in the usa? uhmm NO! Because i'm talking about audi's general perception and brand image.

[iDiggMGL]

@ACS607 Oh, no, I read that part, it's just an incredibly retarded thing to say; hence, why it was ignored. Most hybrids and electric cars are not ONLY more recyclable but they are also made OF recycled materials. You ever see an Audi with most of it's interior made of recycled materials? No, no, you don't. You can't generalize perception, dumbass. There are facts about a car, then there is perception which is exclusive to who you ask.

[ACS607]

@iDiggMGL ship parts to different contries to have parts assembled to it. The Prius has a carbon footprint of a regular car or even more. I'll tell you what a prius is. It's a marketing scam designed to draw people into driving it so that they can appear green. The only way a prius could get close to being green is if it gets electricity from solar power, wind power ect. otherwise its a dirty power station. If you wan't to see an example of what a lifestyle designed car is, watch the BMW X3 ad.

[iDiggMGL]

@ACS607 Cont. The Prius get's it's power from regenerative braking. The car recaptures the kinetic energy that would have been lost if not for the feature. The standard Prius does not have a power source outside of the car itself.

The entry A3 is $27,000, moron. Fuck, do some goddam research.

You know what car I aspire to own? Not some pitiful Audi lol I'm going to own a Tesla Model S. That's what my aspirations will get me haha.

[ACS607]

@iDiggMGL BTW an Audi costs that much because it's aimed at people who unlike you, have started a decent job, are earning a good wage and for people who have aspirations. Owning a tesla model s is not aspirational because the tesla badge doesn't have kudos like an an Audi badge has. No one will look at you in the same way they look at an Audi driver especially when you break down all the time and struggle to find electricity. We've both established that you know fuk all about cars so FUK OFF!

[iDiggMGL]

@ACS607 Lol Wow, you're so disconnected with society lol. Take a Sociology course for your sake, huh? I'd get more looks in a Tesla Roadster than ANY Audi lol. Tesla is still in infancy and only builds cars based on orders, which means the chances of another Roadster pulling up next to you is, let's say; extremely slim. The Tesla brand is exotic-like to U.S.A, despite being designed AND built in California, U.S.

[ACS607]

@iDiggMGL Yes, evidently, I'm disconnected from your naive, self absorbed and retarded nation you live in called the USA. You'll get more looks from a tesla roadster on the side of a freeway when your waiting for a recovery truck. I'd rather buy a BMW I8. Much better power train solution, engineering from a country that is an expert in that field, much better looking (not something that turns a Lotus Elise into the elephant man) and likely to get more looks it's way.

[iDiggMGL]

@ACS607 I'm self absorbed yet you think Europe is the best at making cars? Yeah, okay, bro. I wouldn't need a recovery truck because I'm not a dumbass, like you: I don't keep on driving if I know I don't have enough fuel to get me to my destination lol.

The I8 is a concept, fucktard. Typical Eurotrash answer to a real production run American vehicle lol. Talk to me if that I8 ever get's out of concept. Before the Lear looked like a turd, I'm sure it looked flashy like that too lol.

[ACS607]

@iDiggMGL Your naive, your arguments are flawed,your fact are incorrect, you make ridiculous statements. I'm wondering what your background is? Because i'm not sure you qualify as 'educated'. On a light note, are you a redneck that still doesn't know how to use a pc or the internet?

[iDiggMGL]

@ACS607 *You're naive, you lack real debate skills, you have no fact (incorrect facts: oxymoron, moron), you make ridiculously biased statements. I'm just wondering why you're even here. If all you care about it thinking that you're right, there's no point in throwing out your opinion. People will see that you're wrong and correct you. You don't ignore the responses, so WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU HERE?! If you want to think you're right, shut the fuck up and keep your opinions to yourself.

[ACS607]

@iDiggMGL I rarely feel the need to slap or punch someone stupid in the face, but you're so stupid that i really want to slap or punch you in the face for my pleasure. It's not as if loosing your single brain cell is going to affect you much. BTW You don't do anything to destroy the world's stereotypes about Americans being unbelievably stupid. Oxymoron doesn't mean incorrect facts or no facts dick head, so look it up in a book that contains words with their meanings, it's called a Dictionary.

[iDiggMGL]

@ACS607 Inbred ninnies result to violence. People who lack the skill to effectively communicate result to violence. Doesn't surprise me one bit that you'd fall victim to the status quo. Congrats!

Oxymoron: a figure of speech in which apparently contradictory terms are used in conjunction. "Incorrect fact" IS A FUCKING OXYMORON, MORON!

Eurotrash mockery voice: Yeah, the Chevy Volt was in concept, but when it went production, the car changed!

Irony: "...as if loosing your single brain cell..."

[ACS607]

@iDiggMGL I am right and opinions and facts are two different things DICK HEAD! BMW I8 is making production in 2013, that's why their advertisements are all over the internet, DICK HEAD! That's why there are spy photos all over the internet, DICK HEAD!

You're not even worth it. You're a typical, stupid, fat american man who opens boxes on youtube for a living, has an unhealthy obsession for apple batteries, can't cut his nails and probably lives with mummy. So why the fuck are you here?

[iDiggMGL]

@ACS607 Bro, I have more money than you. I buy Ford because I support American cars and because cheaper cars have less leather in them: I'm vegan. I'm not your typical fat, poor American example. As I said, I'm vegan; have been for almost two years. I'm 180lbs, I'm a runner, a full-time student, and an owner of a car that probably costs double of what your car costs. Stop being wrong all of the time and educate yourself. Oh, and I don't "open boxes for a living," but I own 3 Macs, just saying.

[ACS607]

@iDiggMGL 180lbs? Your fingers alone weigh that much by the looks of your video. U sure your not using two weighing scales and using one result to half your weight? Looks like you could do with loosing more weight, just saying BRO. Never new what the fascination with opening boxes on the tube was. Is your life that pathetic? Highlight of your day? WOW, so jealous.

[iDiggMGL]

@ACS607 Oh, and I'll probably be trading in my current Fusion for this 2013 Fusion Hybrid, maybe the Plug-in model being released next year. BTW, did I mention I paid of the Fusion Hybrid outright?

In case this point is lost upon you: you are not right.

[iDiggMGL]

@ACS607 How do I know that? You "aspire" to own a car I can already afford lol. If I wanted a cruddy Audi, I could buy one. I would not like to spend my hard invested money on a joke of a vehicle, so I'm waiting for something better.

No, not everyone in America has owned a ford, dumbass. Again, WHY DON'T YOU RESEARCH?!?! Also, if you could read properly, you'd see that I said a fully loaded Focus, i.e. not the $15,550 Focus that most younger adults get.

[iDiggMGL]

@ACS607 Yeah......that video was put on YouTube how long ago? You should know I'm not affected by your attempts to make me feel bad about being overweight at a point in my life. I ate meat. Simple as that. I went Vegetarian then Vegan, and never been Vegan for almost 2 years. Why don't I make unboxing videos anymore? Why don't I make ANY videos anymore? I don't care anymore lol. My diet is what I care about. You're no judge to be calling anyone pathetic. You can't even spell losing right.

[iDiggMGL]

@ACS607 The new 2013 Fusion is based on the ideals of the Mondeo. That's as easy as saying: yeah, the Mondeo has been a better car than the Fusion (both designed by Ford), so let's go with the better set of ideals. You moron, that doesn't mean shit hahaha. In addition, the 2010 Fusion was/is a good car. Beat plenty of foreign cars in the sales department lol.

[iDiggMGL]

@ACS607 Hahaha, just to clarify: YOU are Eurotrash, AUDI is Eurotrash; not all European car makers lol. Such a feeble, little mind, you have lol. I Love Jaguar designed cars. If it wasn't for the leather I'd want one; but they do have leather and lots of it. Having said that Tesla can have whatever interior, I'd just replace it with eco-material. What's funniest is that you think Europe cares about you haha. Just like Europe cares about Greece lol

[ACS607]

@iDiggMGL BTW, your calling me a moron because i haven't researched prices for an Audi A3 in a country i don't live in? You're even more of a moran than i am!

[iDiggMGL]

@ACS607 You made an ignorant comment about a car in a country you DON'T live in. That's pretty moronic, bro. See, if I was you in that scenario......I would have used the great, wide internet to aid me in finding the truth. For instance, going on Audi's website and changing the location from U.K. to U.S. You are fucking stupid :D

[iDiggMGL]

@ACS607 No, but the interior contains polyurethane-like materials, so faux leather with other soy-based recyclable and biodegradable material. I like how as the conversation continues, you prove more and more to be nothing but Eurotrash lol.

A car with unlimited driving range doesn't exist, moron. Perpetual motion doesn't exist in cars lol.

Leather is for Eurotrash and Rednecks. That's why you like it so much: it's classless.

[iDiggMGL]

@ACS607 You spent a whole paragraph telling me what I already told you: "...FORD OF Europe...a European 'subsidiary' of Ford motor company..." Ford is an American company. The proceeds come over here and Ford invests the money back into Ford Europe. What's that you keep calling yourself? Shit for brains? Yeah, yeah, I can see why you're calling yourself that.

[ACS607]

@iDiggMGL Really? where exactly did you say that? I'm not telepathic SHIT FOR BRAINS! Re-read your comments BRO! That's BASICS in a discussion. Subsidiary = a company controlled by a holding company (oxf dict) in case you wanna argue SHIT FOR BRAINS. I don't care if Ford of Europe is owned by nasa, it's still a EUROPEAN comp who up until the recent Ford Focus was designing, sourcing and manufacturing it's own cars with little more than reinvestment from Ford motor. Licensed in EU, HQ in Germany.

[iDiggMGL]

@ACS607 You dumb bitch, Ford of Europe can't break away from Ford. Ford of Europe is indefinitely owned by Ford because it was created by Ford. Ford of Europe is an american company. It's just a brand name representing American presence in Europe. The sad part is that I know you know I'm right lol. You know how ridiculously stupid you sound.

[ACS607]

@iDiggMGL Ford of Europe could theoretically break from Ford, that's if Ford decided to sell it and license the use of it's brand to the new company, or if Ford of Europe were allowed to buy a majority stake in shares of Ford in which they would have full blown rights to the company and Ford would only be a shareholders. They wouldn't obviously, unless they wanted to or needed to sell it for financial reasons. Think McDonalds franchises SHIT FOR BRAINS! Brand is owned, restaurant is not!

[iDiggMGL]

@ACS607 That's not Ford EU breaking from Ford, dumbs, that's Ford scrapping their UK division. You've no clue what the hell you're saying; that's the worst fucking part.

[ACS607]

@iDiggMGL BTW I say like, because it's a little more complicated in terms of Ford of Europe being directly associated with Ford motor because of the brand (name/logo etc.). However, it was CREATED, LICENSED AS A COMPANY in Europe to design cars to appeal to European markets, which Ford US had no expertise in. With your IDIOTIC logic, Mazda and Jaguar were once American. THAT'S WHY I CALL U SHIT FOR BRAINS. U GENUINELY ARE. I'm being cruel to be kind. Maybe u could go to school and get educated.

[iDiggMGL]

@ACS607 Ford US OWNS THE DAMN COMPANY. You know how Apple OWNS companies that make technology? Yeah, APPLE MADE THOSE PRODUCTS BECAUSE THEY OWN THE COMPANY THAT MADE THE PRODUCTS. Just because cars are made or designed some place doesn't make them American, dumbass. IT'S WHERE THE FUCKING MONEY IS GOING. Toyota has assembly plants in America, THEY'RE NOT AMERICAN BECAUSE THE MONEY DOESN'T STAY HERE, DUMBASS.

[iDiggMGL]

@ACS607 To shreds? Let's first direct how you're communicating to me: Google. Google is an American company. What OS are you using to access the internet? Windows? Microsoft is an American company. Use Facebook? Facebook is an American company. Best consumer computers are made by AMerican companies. Best cellphone in the world is made by an American company. Hell, best EV cars are made by American Companies. Best Actors live in Hollywood, Ca, USA. America isn't the best; but we do great enough.

[ACS607]

@iDiggMGL Yeah to shreds! America designed these systems, but who builds them? Oh yeah China and when China officially become a superpower, you can guarantee they'll start raping Windows, Apple etc of their profits. Not before long, they'll nick or 'suss out' the technologies behind them and start building their own for cheaper which will probably be bought by cheap americans. Best ev cars in america? Nissan leaf is the best ev car since it's won awards around the world and when BMW, Mercedes ..

[iDiggMGL]

@ACS607 Yeah, nobody's this stupid, not even Eurotrash or rednecks; although it's a game the unintelligent play: when you're wrong, keep fighting the truth until you believe it to be true enough to teach.

100 billion dollar company ain't going to be raped by China when China receives their money from the company already -_- I love the logic hole too. If Microsoft and Apple are gone, you'll be left buying the cheap china products too lol Oh and China already makes iPhone ripoff products XD

[iDiggMGL]

@ACS607 In fact, until recently, Chinese citizens weren't allowed to buy the iPhone, so all they could buy were the ripoffs.

Nissan Leaf is a great car, but every Tesla model is better than the Leaf lol. Awards mean nothing; what matters are the facts. All Tesla cars get 160 miles plus on a charge, have better power trains, better options - 17" touchscreen - HELLO!, better....everything. The Leaf is Cheap. It's not the best but it does;t have to be because it's cheap. Get schooled.

[ACS607]

@iDiggMGL As for the Tesla, fair enough it looks much better and is more luxurious but that's all is got on the Leaf. The leaf has a established and trusted name behind it, is more practical, cheaper, prob more efficient and hell of a lot cheaper. Why would anyone spend $50k on an ev car that has a similar limited range to one that is about $20k cheaper. If you're buying an ev your making sacrifices in order to save the planet. HELLO! NOT BETTER!

[iDiggMGL]

@ACS607 IGNORANCE IS NOT BLISS. Seriously, you your self a favor and take a fatass break from this conversation. This is clearly not a rationalized point of view from a human being. You're just scratching at anything that you think is noteworthy.....AND IT'S ALL MADE UP.

1. Leaf is a $30K car. 2. Leaf is smaller ≠ practical. 3. EV is a new game, bitch; name doesn't mean much. 4. Model S is DOUBLE the range of the leaf. 5. Leaf isn't nearly as efficient lol, fucking moron.

[ACS607]

@iDiggMGL Anyway, awards make all the difference, that's why there are award ceremonies for everything IDIOT. Once you win, people take you more seriously, they trust you. BTW who needs a large infotainment screen when they're likely to go wrong? Ford mytouch has had it's fair share of glitches so I consider it a gimmick to suck in a wider audience to buy it. As for the China argument, see how much power they have to produce products/components.

[iDiggMGL]

@ACS607 Yeah, how many awards does Toyota have? Oh, and what happened to their cars last year? Recall? On how many unique models? Also, the Leaf has no mainstream competition? There's no winning with no competitors. To this day, only the Leaf has been released. Focus EV: not out, Volt: Extended Ranged EV, not the same as a standard EV. The Model is still in the preorder stage. Go wrong? MyFord Touch isn't the same thing HAHAHAHA you're so fucking moronic, just stop XD

[ACS607]

@iDiggMGL Look how Kia and Hyundai have become the the 3rd or 4th largest car manufacturer group in the world from nearly nothing 20 years ago. The same with the Japanese before them. That's why Americans (AND YOU) are so naive, they think they're unstoppable and the best and then they get dominated and ACT SURPRISED? When China come upto speed with the market, they'll take over because they will be producing theirs cheaper and charging more to produce Apples products. SHIT FOR BRAINS!

[iDiggMGL]

@ACS607 Who's #1 and #2? Just curious because you seemed to have mentioned 3 and 4 only. You think Europe is the best you shit licking hypocrite! For fucks sake be a hypocrite, BUT DON'T RAT YOURSELF OUT LIKE AN UTTER MORON! You're quite stupid if you think there's a scenario where cheap ripoff iPods make more money than the real thing. I don't see Nokia join out of business even though their phones are constantly copied. Fucking moron.....

[ACS607]

@iDiggMGL It's called market competition. China is the biggest car market in the world, are now making more cars than all of Europe combined. Have they're own sports brands, which dominate in their country, are making about 2/3 of products in the world, have the second largest number of billionaires and there's more. U KNOW FUK ALL ABOUT ANYTHING! BRO. SOMEONE NEEDED TO TELL YOU THIS. AND IT'S ME.

[iDiggMGL]

@ACS607 I didn't need to have you tell me shit, fucktard. You just assume shit. BUT, AGAIN, WHO'S NUMBER ONE IN BILLIONARES????? Not ONLY is it the US, but we outnumber China 3 to 1. I'm not even saying that's a good thing either, you're just so focused on saying America sucks, you forget that we're number one in almost everything entertainment related; which is everything, btw.

Oh, and the US does all this without authoritative rule, thankyouverymuch. Gaddamn fuckhead haha. Sit down, shut up.

[ACS607]

@iDiggMGL HA HA HA HA HA HA HA. Re-read my comments cock sucker! I think you'll find that your half of what you think i've said, is actually what your stupid, tiny, little brain has processed from my comments. Prius was recalled because stupid americans kept pressing the accelerator instead of the brakes. In Europe there were very few cases. The same thing with Mclaren pushchairs. BTW the Wii out sells both PS3 and Xbox. Every entertainment? Don't think so.

[ACS607]

@iDiggMGL BTW, Apple's success is down to British designer Jonathan Ives. Were it not for him, Apple might still be selling computers with blue plastic. That's why he gets 2 million a year. Just to let you know. I will take your advise though, cos I'm wasting my time arguing with someone who has the intelligence of a 10 year old in Europe. Your a 18+ year old american? I'm going to ASSUME that for this point. You can go back now to getting fuked annaly as you did in your pic.

[ACS607]

@iDiggMGL Audi come into the mix, they'll make the best ev vehicles. The ev R8, ev SLS AMG will hit production soon and they'll wipe the floor with any ev vehicle america makes. Oh, i know that Tesla have made losses with the roadster and they'll only make a profit once they actually produce and deliver the model s tesla (which is rather good looking) to their customers. BTW 'FAUX' leather, ISN'T leather. FACT! SHIT FOR BRAINS! Leather for rednecks? Why is that ROLLS ROYCE and Bentley have them?

[iDiggMGL]

@ACS607 I never said faux leather was leather, SHIT FOR BRAINS. I said I'm vegan; hence, why faux leather is better. It feels the same, but is better for the environment and didn't cost any lives in the process. If you saw the people who drive those cars..... is there any way you can de-ignorant yourself? If it takes money or whatever DO IT.

[ACS607]

@iDiggMGL Rednecks like you dream of owning such a vehicle. God has blessed you even if you've seen one for a second around the crack dens you live at. Unlimited range if you fill a car up at a PETROL STATION SHIT FOR BRAINS! Everyone knows that! An EV car can only go a distance until it runs out of power and then you have to charge it for hours. If you just stopped only getting fuked up the arse, like it's clear from your photo, you might learn a little to stop being a SHIT FOR BRAINS!

[iDiggMGL]

@ACS607 God is a fat and flat joke that never lands on me. There is no God, there are only bad people who think walking into an old building with preachers will save them from condemnation. Oh and those bad people are pretty much the people who made up God in the first place.

So you're effectively saying that EV's have unlimited driving range as well. All I need to do is charge up the car at a charging station and then I'm on my way! You're original comment mentioned no length of time, dumbass.

[AndyAEC01]

@iDiggMGL It's exactly why everyone hates on us lol. We make the best shit.

[ACS607]

@iDiggMGL BTW, Do you think the world cares about you? No. I for one am super glad your world no1 status is being ripped to shreds by no other than China! I'm glad all your industry is moving to China to be made more cheaply. I'm glad that as a consequence, alot of americans have lost their jobs. I'm glad you owe so many trillions. I'm enjoying watching you squirm because you're all thick, obese, self absorbed, inbred red neck morans who think they're the best in the world. YOUR NOT. FACT!

[ACS607]

@iDiggMGL and i forgot to say, a prius can only be close to being green if the driver choses to drive on electric power everywhere sourced from nature. Seeing as the battery charge only lasts 30 miles or whatever, i doubt anyone will be able to use battery power alone, i mean what happens if they need to travel on a motorway? An a3 costs $27,000? Really? Haven't you heard of an entry level model? COME ON MAN! What type of american would buy an audi? One with a degree and aspirations and a career

[iDiggMGL]

@ACS607 Cont.. You think a family car that got 12 miles to the gallon would sell in today's world? Why the hell do you think Hummer went out of business? Nobody bought them because fuel economy sucked. Right now, people want cars that will have gas in the tank after the work week is over. That could change in the future, but that's the state of things right now.

By the way, you ever wonder why V6 engines are getting better mileage ratings? R&D, bro. The V6, 5Cly gap is closing because of R&D.

[ACS607]

@iDiggMGL Exactly, hence why people are turning to BMW 3er over Mondeos/Fusion in the UK like i said before. Hence why in Europe there has been a massive trend for crossovers and people are buying them over traditional hatchbacks. You buy the brand because it has been in a James Bond film and therefore it's cool. Sorry mate, buy you know nothing at all. You see things in 1D when you should really be seeing things in 3D.

[iDiggMGL]

@ACS607 What you're saying makes no sense. You have no idea what goes on in the mind of another person.

Nobody who's considering a $30,000+ car is considering a $20,000 car, doofus. You're more likely comparing similar $30,000+ cars. Again, I said the Fusions were what? Stylish, eco efficient and AFFORDABLE: "The point is to have a car designed to 100% at all points for a great price." The only issue is your ability to understand what you read. You're ignoring facts left and right.

[ACS607]

@iDiggMGL Not to mention that sales figures for the mondeo are coming down every year. People who would of bought mondeos in the past are buying 3 series and they're proud to own one. In the states, ford, gm and the rest have been feeding you crap shitboxes for years, so i understand your point. However in Europe, we have higher expectations so we get better. Aston grill for a US ford is amazing, but in Europe we'll see, especially as Astons are adored here.

[Filmbert]

Why does it have an antenna ??

The MK4 facelift modell doesn't have one and this is good.

A step backwards in my opinion.

[georgemachinghao]

In Europe, Africa & Asia Pacific, it's call Mondeo.

[ihooman]

This is the nicest Ford I've ever seen... I might just want one ... it looks like an Aston Martin combined with a Jaguar

[slimshady7559]

@ihooman thats true