What a shitty documentry, they interviewd US veterans and now thats all very well but not a singel German veteran? instead they get this random guy? meh...
these US soldiers were evil bastard!!! how can they killed the german soldiers like an animal?just shoot at them.i rather shoot at them then to kill them with knife.or rather just one knife at their body and let them die.why need to knife so many times??? so evil and yuck!!! i hate these!!!
@mindawareness Tell me then good sir. What are the chances of stopping a well-trained soldier who's been out there weeks fighting for his life against the Germans and the weather pushing his/her limits to beyond what you or me could ever imagine or endure, going into open fire with adrenaline pumping in them like mad and comprehending every action that they are committing and make precise judgments of their kills? Give them some slack. Also do be aware that this is a "re-enactment".
@mindawareness that was only one of the very few charges that America made against the Germans unlike Russia they were like the Japanese in that part of the war plus the Germans acturraly invaded Russia now think about what bayonet charges were like with them besides all the other countries made alot more charges than America did in that war even Britain!
@98vanguard Huh? Seriously, you just posted nonsense really! Did you forget to mention WWI or the Spanish American War? But seriously what does you post matter? Learn how to spell ACTUALLY! Just google it.
@mindawareness they did both,,, as germans did to americans when they had the chance, apperently you are typical euro trash that likes to bad mouth americans, my brother in laws dad served in the eto,, he sad the germans were "tough bastards" .... he would use anything he could to kil as many as he could during the war.
@mindawareness Tell that to the US Soldiers lined up and massacred by the Germans at Malmedy. Better yet, tell that to the jews of Europe. You don't take evil a prisoner at risk of your own life, you kill it like you would a fly.
@mindawareness For one thing if you only stabbed once the german might pull out a p-38 and kill you before he expired. War has always been brutal it's not politicaly correct. sometimes men would have to bash in anothers head with there entrenching shovels.
@TheJuvelir im sorry but have you ever heard how much sound an mg42 makes, the germans would probably only have heard the americans when they were about 20 feet away and when they were not firing, but even then they were too busy shooting in the direction of some other GIs to stop shooting
Thanks for the upload. Curious though, not a word about Bastoyne or german commandos creating confusion by pretending to be americans. Maybe the series is too short for this?
@glutinousmaximus Theres another vid here around the YouTube called the Lost Evidence: Battle of the Bulge, something like that. And I believe they talk about how Germans dressed like Americans, but I am not sure.
@GreyWolfxM16 You are absolutely right. This was headed by Otto Skorzeny. In late October 1944, Hitler put Skorzeny in charge of "Operation Greif." Skorzeny commanded the 150th Panzer Brigade, whose mission was to capture one or more bridges on a stretch of the Meuse River in Belgium, after the First Panzer Division broke through the American defense. Additionally, Skorzeny would command a force of commandos made up of English-speaking soldiers with American equipment and uniforms.
i love youtube a place where people who luv to argue (but dont have the bottle do do it in real life) can come and dish out abuse to absolute strangers.
Hey everyone! If you want to read the greatest book ever written and published on the Battle of the Bulge, then you must check out: THE ARDENNES ON FIRE. It is so phenomenal, you won't be able to put it down!
Allied casualties in the battle were more but with the prisoners the total loses of men is equal 85 000 each - in this hole moove there were 100 killed americans and 18 captured and around 3000 germans killed - this is sith hah. They were crying Jeronimoo while running 100 yards but the germans didn't even turn back - WHAT A FUCKING JOKE
@ChrisGariepy dont get me fucking wrong if i saw some fucking nazi walking by i would beat the shit out of them like i did at school and got i.s.s. for 2 weeks
@jlaturno You beat up an 80 year old man at your school? Or are you talking about neo-nazis? Which literally has nothing to do with WW2 and the original Nazi organization. Not to mention you're denying him his right of freedom of speech and freedom to organize. How unconstitutional of you. So you're an idiot no matter how you answer.
You are aware, that the US Constitution, nor that of any society, grants an unlimited right to Free Speech, or to organize? (Though, I think you meant, Assembly.)
And while I don't advocate violence against those espousing nazi or any other racist ideology, it's certainly the natural, and understandable reaction of decent people to want to beat them to bloody pulps.
Personally, I see a bunch of nazis or Kluxers, and my first thought is, "Darn! A flame-thrower would be handy right now."
@skeilak I'll be honest, I hated neo-nazis at first but then I did a little research on them. They don't really do anything illegal. When they have meetings or rallys they are usually attacked by other parties, such as the Black Panther Party(?). They patrol the boarder to stop illegal immigrants and report them to the proper authorities with no excessive violence. However gangs such as the "bloods" do a number of illegal things. I would much rather you attack them.
There's nothing illegal about being a racist fucktard. But it's still pretty vile, isn't it?
The people I've seen, who've turned out to protest neo-nazis and Klanholes, were almost entirely white.
Criminal organizations, such as street gangs, biker gangs, the Mafia, or terrorists like neo-nazis, the Klan, and hate-crazed Muslims, already have Law Enforcement Agencies looking over their shoulders.
@skeilak I'm not saying it's ok to be racist. Especially in America where the country is literally built on immigrants(not illegals). I'm just saying I was under the impression that they were the basis for several hate crimes. However this is not the case and the destruction that they cause is usually in self-defense. There are worst organizations is what I'm getting at. Why don't you beat up the people who hold up signs saying 'thank god for I.E.D.S" at Military funerals? That would make sense.
Perhaps you could explain how neo-nazi violence, such as assassinations, murder, bombings, bank robberies, illegal arms trafficking, assaults, menacing, intimidation, and desecration of Jewish Synagogues and cemeteries, counts as "self-defense"?
And again, you seem a bit befuddled...
When did I advocate beating anyone?
The idiots of the Westboro Baptist Church perfectly within their rights to inflict pain on families. The Supreme Court says so.
@skeilak My mistake, I was referring to the "National Socialist Movement." A select organization, not unorganized vigilantes. I'm not defending random acts of hatred performed in violent ways. Again, my mistake for saying you attacked people, I was referring to @jlanturno's statement. My comment was mainly directed at that person, I was unaware that the conversation switched to a different person. I apologize for that.
There is no such thing as a "National Socialist Movement".
Just racist fucktards, with a hard-ons for hatred.
And no nazi gang could ever be described as "select", unless you mean they choose from only the most abject losers, at the bottom of society's cesspool.
Also, learn the difference between vigilantism, and cowardly racist bullying.
@skeilak Last time I checked there was a group called the National Socialist Movement. Do not mistake my comment, I do not support them or anyone in their organization. Other than that I can't respond because you ignored the definition of an organization. For instance Charles Manson is not a member of the National Socialist Movement. He is however an insane racist maniac. They do not go together.
Yeah, there's an organization called, "The New Order for World Dominance".
Their headquarters are in my neighbor's garage. They're more of a menace than any "National Socialist Movement." Sometimes they toss empty beer cans over the fence, and I have yell at them to pick them up.
Now, where did you say you could find this National Socialist Movement? Do they meet in a garage, too?
@taberr5 i said kid you prick not a man as in over 18 he said this to my face thoes jews got what they deserved and they deserved to die my grandpa was in a camp ass hole i still have the letters and i never said i took out his vocal coards so he still has the freedom of speech so shut the hell up
@jlaturno So he was a Neo-Nazi, not a Nazi. He probably wasn't even a Neo-Nazi and just racist. Just because people talk shit on the military doesn't mean people in the military run around and start fights. So you're still an idiot for ignoring my first comment's statement but replying anyway.
this so-called documentary stinks somehow. Lots of dubious "facts" and scenarios re-enacted for cheap thrills. Why would anybody, in a wood with perfect camouflage, decide to fix bayonets and charge an enemy fixed position? The Germans were, at that time in the battle, fighting a rearguard action anyway. There was plenty of opportunity to access the situation and circle the threat and report the postion to HQ. At the most, a few handgrenades would have surely eased the "situation"...
lol at this TV show:showing only americans,talking only about americans on a battle which is suppose to be about german initiative,it's so equitable and stuff...wait.
Bayonet charges....rarely occured in th European theatre with American forces......now thats frickn brave. especially to come out as th victor after th charge...frickn amazing and heroic!!!
@kinglijah dont forget in that charge they were very lucky the germans were facing the other way. otherwise the mg42s would of pumped 1200 rounds into them per minute.
@Micklinehan true, but still brave of them to have done that and a great decision also made at th right time.
That was th whole point because they had th chance to utilise th opportunity of fixing bayonets due to th enemy having no clue at all as to what was behind them AND they had their backs faced towards them.
no single country in the world at that time would have stood a chance against germany 1on1 those are facts. the world can thanks canada,usa,england,australia,russia and ordinary citizens turned guerilla fighters for the victory.
@BumJuiceDrinker russia basically did with 70% of the german forces fighting on the eastern front and still where pushing through faster then the other allies and the USA maybe could have if it kept up its massive industrial power.
@BumJuiceDrinker actually mate the russians would have, because they are the main contributing factor for the turning point in the war, they pretty much faced the full force of the german war machine and while they lost heavily in early stages the lack of preperation the germans had for the russian winter is one of the main reasons why they lost. another reason is because russia is to big a country to invade, if u take half the counrty even they would have over extended their recources.
@UnrealAussie1 Very true statements. But that is the reason the germans TRIED TO take one city/section at a time and divide the attacks. Although they had there forces extended, they focused on main offensive attack points. Plus, if Hitler was even a slightly good strategist, he would have listened to his generals and realized what was going on at the eastern front and made the correct decisions. He was too busy worrying about Moscow to think about strategy. A very smart yet dumbass man
@BumJuiceDrinker actually russia can be the one thanked for the turn of the tide. stalingrade is the key turning point in ww2. afta that the russians started roling them back. that main reason the western front was reopened is because stalin was demanding a second front to take the strain off the russian forces. russia is the only counrty to beat the germans 1 on 1 and to counter attack even better.
@UnrealAussie1 thats not true either, other countries fought 1on1 battles and won too, unlike russia they just didnt need to outnumber the germans 10 -1 to do it. russia is no better than america, both sat on the sidelines for the first couple of years while the other countries wore them down. The only difference between russia and the yanks was russia actually helped germany first, pretty slimy of russians if you ask me.
@BumJuiceDrinker where do u even get your logic from, russia is the only 1 to bet the germans 1 on 1 as i said earlier, the allies had multiple countries on the western front. read up on the reason why russia decided to join germany at first to. the west refused to make an alliance with it. and also the germans had the same amount of troops to start with but werent able to recover as easy. russia stands as the sole major reason for the turn of the tide in the war afta stalingrade.
While the Soviet Army took on the brunt of the Wehrmacht, do not forget that the British were fighting the Italians and Germans since 1941 in North Africa joined later by Americans in 1942; a strategically important battlefield which later moved onto Southern Europe.
and While the Western front didn't materialize until 1944, do not forget the often neglected canal front: the strategic bombing campaign by the US and GB which did its part in the systematic destruction of the German war industries.
@Eurofighter19 dont assume i dont know about that mate. the british are the also 1 of the main reasons for the end of ww2, if they had not resisted the germans like they did then there would have been no way for the western front to be reopened
The reason of my assumption is because in the message that I replied to; you more or less insinuated that the Soviet Union defeated Nazi Germany on its own, when in fact every single Allied nation did its part on bringing the Axis powers on its knees and no nation deserves more credit than the other one.
@Eurofighter19 every nation deserves credit on bring th axis to its knees yes, but u also must understand that until stalingrade the germans were undefeated and that russia deserves the credit for turning the tide of the war
While I'm well aware of the turning point of the war for the Wehrmacht on Stalingrad; keep in mind that by the time Nazi Germany invaded the Soviet Union, the Germans were not undefeated.
by not achieving air superiority against the RAF that arguably would have enable the Wehrmacht to conduct an amphibious assault against Great Britain and thus a invasion, the outcome of the Battle of Britain can be considered as the first strategic defeat for Nazi Germany.
@Eurofighter19 yes the battle of britain is still britains finest hour, and yes it is the first strategic defeat, but it wasnt a turning point like stalingrade was, britain was a stronghold after that, a last bastion on the western front, from which an attack could later be lanched
And while the battle of Stalingrad did in fact broke the back of the Wehrmacht as a effective offensive army (as a defensive army it remained deadly until the very end of the war in Europe), keep in mind that the Eastern Front was a battlefield among others on the overall global conflict.
The fighting on the Pacific theatre, the IBC theatre as well as the Western European Theater had their respectively turning points.
@Eurofighter19 yes but the germans did nt win against the russians after stalin grade, they still had victories against the allies on the western front, the battle of the bulge is a key example, if they werent low on recources they would have had a major chance on closeing the western front and the push would have had to start all over again.
Are you suggesting that while Soviet forces didn't receive any counterattack by the Wehrmacht after Stalingrad, the Germans were the victors of Battle of the Bulge?
Just as the German counterattack was crushed by Western Allied forces due to a acute lack of oil -a direct result of the bomber war-. the Soviets too endured a massive German counterattack during the Battle of Kursk during 1943 which also ended in defeat by the Wermacht due to inferior resources against the Red Army.
@Eurofighter19 were are u getting that the germans didnt counter attack on the eastern front, read what i said, and again read what i said about the bulge counter attack, i specifically, mention the fact of their low recources. but yes it is a small victory in a way, due to the fact of how far they were able to punch staight into the western lines, weres as on the eastern front in 1943 they didnt get anywhere
Let me refresh your memory "yes but the germans did nt win against the russians after stalin grade, they still had victories against the allies on the western front"
although the Wermcht did not manage to break into the Soviet lines, they managed to stall the Soviet offensive for some time
If you are willing to put the battle of the Bulge as a little victory for the Wehrmacht; the Battle of Kursk can be placed in the same category. a victory in the form of delaying the offensive.
You may also which to research a little bit more why the Battle of the Bulge happened in the first place.
-From December 16th to 24th Allied Air Forces remained grounded by the weather which enable the Wehrmacht to move quickly with any air resistance that could have stopped the offensive on its tracks.
- By December, Allied logistical supply line were dangerously stretched from the Normandy beaches and hence did not supply the front lines efficiently creating a stalemate.
If the propaganda-filled articles you read suggest that the Aryan and Siberian soldier were much superior to the American and Canadian soldier, I recommend you to start doing some serious unbiased research on the Western front of the ETO.
I can cite numerous reasons of why the Western front was vital for victory the Eastern front and vice-versa But I have the least desire to become your tutor.
@Eurofighter19 fuck u mate. u need more tutoring more than me. i read from fucking books nt the internet which it seems u get your info from. the diference with me is my country doesnt produce bias shit. like yours likes to.
-Faulty Allied intelligence which failed to decipher the build up of German panzer divisions behind the Ardennes coupled with well renowned German ingenuity by attacking on the last place the Allies expected a counterattack.
@luftwaffe789456123 - Maybe the fact that their bayonet charge were rare but usually successful. Take Korean war for instance were Americans charged a larger Chinese red army with bayonets.
@emmthreejonny if bayonet charges were successful every military in the world would use that tatic mate. and i wouldnt use the korean war as an example of a successful boyonet charge, due to the fact that 700 australians held back over 10,000 chinese soldiers doing a bayonet charge in one night
@UnrealAussie1 Very true again! I can tell u love ur history as much as i do. The australians have always been an underestimated/unrecognized force if you ask me. They deserve more fame and respect than they recieve. The Japs and Chinese have always made the mistake of charges, as allied forces would just mow them down until they were all dead. A very meaningless way to go out if you ask me. Only time it is respected is when it is a success. Do u collect ww2 by any chance?
@luftwaffe789456123 Yeah, but Japs were using the bonzai attack like assholes. The Allies and any other Axis, besides the Japanese, were using it correctly. ALL the time, bonzai attacks unnessesarily in situations.
Thanks to the American forces for defending us. Fuck, they went all out savage on those fucking square-head Germans. I would have done the same. Imagine the rage/adrenaline pumping through their bodies as they fucking sliced them with bayonets.
great videos thank you, once again lesson not taught in history books these are and were great soldiers thank you for your heroism and sacrifice you are not forgotten!!
@kutulu6 this isnt history mate this is bias shit to make the americans look heroic. this is nt history here. this is more a war movie than a documentry
I don't know why God allowed this to happen, but in the end, good did triumphant over evil. Maybe he was looking ahead at what lay in store today, the evil, child killings, murders, all the things we see on the news everyday. We just don't have justice like we used to. Too many slaps on the wrist.
I would rather have the bad memories than being dead. R u that fuckin stupid? Be sweet & be nice & die, or kill a few & live. Darwin called it "Natural Selection" or "Survival of the fittest'. I have killed a couple n Afghanistan, and guess what? I sleep very good at night. U need a reality check. Life is not sweet little people that u can talk 2 & work out your problems on the battlefield, but then again, what would someone from Finland know about that?
wtf how can u confuse me with some1 who from finland especially. wen i hav the name unreal aussie. no n i think u need a reality check, if u think its alright to do wat they did shown in this clip then u deserve that kind of death, n i hope it comes n gets u. in war also u should always show respect to yor enemy n in return they usually will do the same, n if they dont then u still show it, because then it shows u deserve to win n that u r not willing to sink down to ther level.
What ever death comes my way, So be it. There is only 1 way 2 win, & that is 2 live. Dying for a cause is why they call it "the ultimate price". Warfare is not a TV sport, even though that is how the TV wants 2 portray it. No one ever won a war by dying for his country. He won a war by making the other poor son of bitch die for his cause.
@democratichypocrit Try and Google "Simo Häyä" or "The Winter War". Finland has faced and survived in the face of odds you would never dream off. Finns know more of war than most.
Thanks and respect for risking your neck in Afghanistan, but get some enlightenment please.
Well I guess who needs enlightenment since we have Finland right? Please I dont want your respect. I dont need it. It doesnt matter what you think of me, it only matters what I think.
This is about the "battle of the bulge"not Finland's war with Russia,so why do you feel the need to try to enlighten us Americans on a video that has to do with Americas role in WW2 and not the Finnish Russian war?I'm sure their are other youtube videos on that subject,this is not one of them
Because, as is evident if you check what I reply to, some unenlightned countryman of yours is badmouthing Finns for knowing nothing of war. Apart from the fact that the fellow he adressed was an Aussie, which was evident from his name, I point out that Finns know more of war than most. And off fighting very bad odds.
That is why, if you are an enlightened American and knows that there are people outside your borders with competence and experience- good on you, but that fellow obviously did not.
Finns know more about war because they fought well against the Russians?well in that case the Greeks are masters of war because they have been invaded for thousands of years,what about former Yugoslavia don't you thing they would know more about war? Israel!! they were attacked by many invaders at once they know some things on war almost every country in Europe has had its share of invasions and very bad odds America a very young age had some really bad odds in two wars with the British.
In theory you are right, but military historians- even professionals (including me)- and military men (which I once was) all over the world consider the Finnish experience and doctrine something special and study both it and Finnish doctrine today as something unique. I advice anyone with an interest in military matters to do so. Ex-Yugoslavians have lots of experience as well, but more with banditry and slaughter than war, and are indeed used as hired killers by many criminals in Europe today.
something special? well maybe but their are countless times in history were smaller forces have fought off larger forces it always is special and unique, I don't have to give you examples because Im sure you already know,as interesting as the Finnish Russian war was I wouldn't say the Finns know more about war based on that,it shows that finland had a small but very capable armed forces that maybe something that most of you can be proud of.
I am not Finnish, I am Danish and we surrendered when germany came knocking- not something I am proud off, but it did allow us to retain self-rule and not become "North Germania" as some nazis wanted.
In a sense I agree, but the force inequality in the Winter War has actually rarely been matched. We do actually consider it special, and it is. Add to that the conclusions it made Hitler draw and the fact that the Finns fought the USSR, for many years our main enemy, and thus also merits study.
Denmark didn't have a strong armed forces in the 40's it never really had a strong military tradition like France or Germany so they didn't have much of a choice in surrendering it was the smart thing to do at the time,fighting back would of caused many civilian deaths I could be wrong but I don't think Denmark had any jewish population so I think the civilian population was left alone by the Germans.
I've been to Denmark, everyone was very nice,one of the few places I would like to live at
BTW, Denmark had a population of 7000 Jews during WWII 6700 of these escaped due to the Danish resistance, normal Danes not accepting deportation and... cooperation from the German authorities. The game played in Denmark was "if we are not too harsh, you will not misbehave". So a German basically leaked the info on the coming roundup and the Danes acted.
Finland was Germany's ally, then when Germany was losing they weren't. They were also the first country to pay off their war debt. And you should actaully know what you talk about.
-The Field Gray M35 was the main combat uniform, completed with older field grays and home-clothes.
Some White Guards also wore their own field gear.
Helmets came from half-a-dozen different places, Hungarian and German WW1 stock being the most numerous. Although, usually Finns went on without any helmets.
Thanks for trying to enlighten the unenlightened with me. However, I fear that one is a lost case, quite unfortunately thus reinforcing Europeans' view of the state of enlightenment of his people.
I have no idea how the USA of 1944, which I <3 and largely admire became the place it is today...
In WW II The US stood for freedom and light, a beacon of hope. Its politicians were humane and enlightened and the average farmboy was taught to think for himself and stand up for what he believed in.
Tody, since you ask directly, it seems that US society has polarised into a few enlightened people and a large, dumb, grey mass growing more and more ignorant and caring less and less about anything real. And with a feeling of superiority towards the rest of the world that is unjustified.
Further, the dumb mass more and more seeks refuge in religion, and I happen to not be too keen on people who are ardently and fanatically religious. Whatever faith they follow.
And no, I am not amongst those hating the US for its foreign policy. Very few have the right to, most countries have thrown around their weight when they could.
I admire the few, pity the many. But that is what I believe is wrong with the US today, it is the most extreme example of what Giddens calls "Vagabond Society".
@PalleRasmussen And what may i ask is your source for these claims? have you ever been to the states? How can you so readilly generalize such a large country with such a big population without siing a source
@Jaywalk721 You think one learns anything by visiting a large and diverse country? Not unless one lives for years there and pays attention.
No- in short-, I read American newspapers, debate with Americans, read American books (with pleasure), read US sociology, political theory and economic theory, watch the political system, and is subjected to the mass culture produced in America. All this leaves me with the impression I expressed. Do not worry, I am not too happy with any society these days.
this is wat u call savages. this is not bravery its showing how inhumanity towards other ppl. they deserve these bad memories, i hope they remember wat they did to others every day fro the rest of their lives. same goes for the germans.
@democratichypocrit no mate this is how the world talks, u yanks on the other hand dont have a clue about anything, u treat your president like a god, u are that stupid that you can mix me up with some1 from finland even wen i hav aussie in my name, and i dount you could point to any country out side america
So what you're saying is that all Aussies were savages in WW2 too, who deserve bad memories for killing innocent Japanese soldiers wanting to torture them to death.
@gutstheberserker war was differnet on the european front mate, the germans usually showed respect on the western front, they werent like the japanezse
@WarJunkieAndExpert That is BS. A banzai charge is originally called "Gyokusai" which simply means honorable suicide. A banzai charge is synonymous with a kamikaze because they both mean suicide.
@HaggenPagan26 Banzai attack in this situation was not meant to be a sucicide attack. When the Japs did this, they knew they were ultimately sacrificing themselves for there country/emporer. Banzai USUALLY means suicide attack. U might wanna recheck ur wikipedia definition. This was most certainly a bonzai style attack if ive ever seen one, which fortunately didnt end in death. AKA a successful bonzai attack!!!!!!
@bradleytreseler The word " Banzai" was used. When an intelligent person sees " Banzai" the only connotation is suicide. Read the comment I responded to asshole.
But why do you think that Historians associate a bayonet charge with a banzai, and a suicide attack a kamikaze so specifically? Because, banzai = charge (charging may not always result in death) kamikaze = suicide.
What a shitty documentry, they interviewd US veterans and now thats all very well but not a singel German veteran? instead they get this random guy? meh...
Falloutcookingshow 3 weeks ago
if the germans did the beyonet charge they would of said the mercilousy germans take no POWS all are bad.
pickmeplz100 1 month ago
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geoff630 2 months ago
GERONIMO!!!!!
Nemisish 2 months ago
@Nemisish Serious balls!!
1998disco72 2 months ago
Why didn't they get interviews and perspectives from the German side?
fixdeluxe1 4 months ago
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because they were all dead........
etornel79 3 months ago
@fixdeluxe1 American Show, but that would be awesome. They had a Vietnam documentary where they covered both sides, but i haven't ran into a ww2 one.
mendoza0725 3 months ago
@fixdeluxe1 Chek out the "biggest tank battles in history" series. there is veterans from both sides sharing their stories.
d6ud9e 1 month ago
LERRRRRRROOOYY JEENKKKKINSSS
jnevins1234 5 months ago
ill never forget the first baby i bayoneted
slyrader1 5 months ago
these US soldiers were evil bastard!!! how can they killed the german soldiers like an animal?just shoot at them.i rather shoot at them then to kill them with knife.or rather just one knife at their body and let them die.why need to knife so many times??? so evil and yuck!!! i hate these!!!
mindawareness 5 months ago
@mindawareness Tell me then good sir. What are the chances of stopping a well-trained soldier who's been out there weeks fighting for his life against the Germans and the weather pushing his/her limits to beyond what you or me could ever imagine or endure, going into open fire with adrenaline pumping in them like mad and comprehending every action that they are committing and make precise judgments of their kills? Give them some slack. Also do be aware that this is a "re-enactment".
DeathKnightNanaya 5 months ago
@mindawareness that was only one of the very few charges that America made against the Germans unlike Russia they were like the Japanese in that part of the war plus the Germans acturraly invaded Russia now think about what bayonet charges were like with them besides all the other countries made alot more charges than America did in that war even Britain!
98vanguard 4 months ago
@98vanguard Huh? Seriously, you just posted nonsense really! Did you forget to mention WWI or the Spanish American War? But seriously what does you post matter? Learn how to spell ACTUALLY! Just google it.
1998disco72 2 months ago
@mindawareness War is hell.
morethanever100 4 months ago
@morethanever100 You could type that againnn
mendoza0725 3 months ago
@mindawareness they did both,,, as germans did to americans when they had the chance, apperently you are typical euro trash that likes to bad mouth americans, my brother in laws dad served in the eto,, he sad the germans were "tough bastards" .... he would use anything he could to kil as many as he could during the war.
SuperGetitgotitgood 2 months ago
@mindawareness Tell that to the US Soldiers lined up and massacred by the Germans at Malmedy. Better yet, tell that to the jews of Europe. You don't take evil a prisoner at risk of your own life, you kill it like you would a fly.
TheUncleDougger 1 month ago
@mindawareness For one thing if you only stabbed once the german might pull out a p-38 and kill you before he expired. War has always been brutal it's not politicaly correct. sometimes men would have to bash in anothers head with there entrenching shovels.
sass225 1 month ago
@mindawareness Who'd have thought? In war, people die brutally and violently...here I always thought war consisted of lollipops and kisses
ZarathustrasCrown 1 week ago
@TheJuvelir im sorry but have you ever heard how much sound an mg42 makes, the germans would probably only have heard the americans when they were about 20 feet away and when they were not firing, but even then they were too busy shooting in the direction of some other GIs to stop shooting
GoldenEagle520 5 months ago
Thanks for the upload. Curious though, not a word about Bastoyne or german commandos creating confusion by pretending to be americans. Maybe the series is too short for this?
glutinousmaximus 6 months ago
@glutinousmaximus Theres another vid here around the YouTube called the Lost Evidence: Battle of the Bulge, something like that. And I believe they talk about how Germans dressed like Americans, but I am not sure.
GreyWolfxM16 6 months ago
@GreyWolfxM16 You are absolutely right. This was headed by Otto Skorzeny. In late October 1944, Hitler put Skorzeny in charge of "Operation Greif." Skorzeny commanded the 150th Panzer Brigade, whose mission was to capture one or more bridges on a stretch of the Meuse River in Belgium, after the First Panzer Division broke through the American defense. Additionally, Skorzeny would command a force of commandos made up of English-speaking soldiers with American equipment and uniforms.
glutinousmaximus 6 months ago
i love youtube a place where people who luv to argue (but dont have the bottle do do it in real life) can come and dish out abuse to absolute strangers.
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SWALE1984 8 months ago
Allied casualties in the battle were more but with the prisoners the total loses of men is equal 85 000 each - in this hole moove there were 100 killed americans and 18 captured and around 3000 germans killed - this is sith hah. They were crying Jeronimoo while running 100 yards but the germans didn't even turn back - WHAT A FUCKING JOKE
TheJuvelir 10 months ago
@TheJuvelir
Just like your grammar.
idk2say 10 months ago
war is war you shoot at them they shoot at you
i hate that sentence
war is 1 reason to murder some one enemy or not that person has a family that loves them just like you
jlaturno 10 months ago
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ChrisGariepy 10 months ago
@ChrisGariepy dont get me fucking wrong if i saw some fucking nazi walking by i would beat the shit out of them like i did at school and got i.s.s. for 2 weeks
jlaturno 10 months ago
@jlaturno
lol you had a nazi at your school?
ChrisGariepy 10 months ago
@ChrisGariepy idk if you would call him a nazi but he said hitler is awsome and gews needed to die
so i said fuck you and beat the shit out of him and my teacher pulled me off him
jlaturno 10 months ago
@jlaturno good, I'm glad you beat him up. We don't need people like that in this world.
ChrisGariepy 9 months ago
@jlaturno You beat up an 80 year old man at your school? Or are you talking about neo-nazis? Which literally has nothing to do with WW2 and the original Nazi organization. Not to mention you're denying him his right of freedom of speech and freedom to organize. How unconstitutional of you. So you're an idiot no matter how you answer.
taberr5 9 months ago
@taberr5
You are aware, that the US Constitution, nor that of any society, grants an unlimited right to Free Speech, or to organize? (Though, I think you meant, Assembly.)
And while I don't advocate violence against those espousing nazi or any other racist ideology, it's certainly the natural, and understandable reaction of decent people to want to beat them to bloody pulps.
Personally, I see a bunch of nazis or Kluxers, and my first thought is, "Darn! A flame-thrower would be handy right now."
skeilak 9 months ago
@skeilak I'll be honest, I hated neo-nazis at first but then I did a little research on them. They don't really do anything illegal. When they have meetings or rallys they are usually attacked by other parties, such as the Black Panther Party(?). They patrol the boarder to stop illegal immigrants and report them to the proper authorities with no excessive violence. However gangs such as the "bloods" do a number of illegal things. I would much rather you attack them.
taberr5 9 months ago
@taberr5
There's nothing illegal about being a racist fucktard. But it's still pretty vile, isn't it?
The people I've seen, who've turned out to protest neo-nazis and Klanholes, were almost entirely white.
Criminal organizations, such as street gangs, biker gangs, the Mafia, or terrorists like neo-nazis, the Klan, and hate-crazed Muslims, already have Law Enforcement Agencies looking over their shoulders.
So your point is?
skeilak 9 months ago
@skeilak I'm not saying it's ok to be racist. Especially in America where the country is literally built on immigrants(not illegals). I'm just saying I was under the impression that they were the basis for several hate crimes. However this is not the case and the destruction that they cause is usually in self-defense. There are worst organizations is what I'm getting at. Why don't you beat up the people who hold up signs saying 'thank god for I.E.D.S" at Military funerals? That would make sense.
taberr5 9 months ago
@taberr5
You're a rather confused person...
Perhaps you could explain how neo-nazi violence, such as assassinations, murder, bombings, bank robberies, illegal arms trafficking, assaults, menacing, intimidation, and desecration of Jewish Synagogues and cemeteries, counts as "self-defense"?
And again, you seem a bit befuddled...
When did I advocate beating anyone?
The idiots of the Westboro Baptist Church perfectly within their rights to inflict pain on families. The Supreme Court says so.
skeilak 9 months ago
@skeilak My mistake, I was referring to the "National Socialist Movement." A select organization, not unorganized vigilantes. I'm not defending random acts of hatred performed in violent ways. Again, my mistake for saying you attacked people, I was referring to @jlanturno's statement. My comment was mainly directed at that person, I was unaware that the conversation switched to a different person. I apologize for that.
taberr5 9 months ago
@taberr5
There is no such thing as a "National Socialist Movement".
Just racist fucktards, with a hard-ons for hatred.
And no nazi gang could ever be described as "select", unless you mean they choose from only the most abject losers, at the bottom of society's cesspool.
Also, learn the difference between vigilantism, and cowardly racist bullying.
skeilak 9 months ago
@skeilak Last time I checked there was a group called the National Socialist Movement. Do not mistake my comment, I do not support them or anyone in their organization. Other than that I can't respond because you ignored the definition of an organization. For instance Charles Manson is not a member of the National Socialist Movement. He is however an insane racist maniac. They do not go together.
taberr5 9 months ago
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@taberr5
Yeah, there's an organization called, "The New Order for World Dominance".
Their headquarters are in my neighbor's garage. They're more of a menace than any "National Socialist Movement." Sometimes they toss empty beer cans over the fence, and I have yell at them to pick them up.
Now, where did you say you could find this National Socialist Movement? Do they meet in a garage, too?
skeilak 9 months ago
@taberr5 i said kid you prick not a man as in over 18 he said this to my face thoes jews got what they deserved and they deserved to die my grandpa was in a camp ass hole i still have the letters and i never said i took out his vocal coards so he still has the freedom of speech so shut the hell up
jlaturno 9 months ago
@jlaturno So he was a Neo-Nazi, not a Nazi. He probably wasn't even a Neo-Nazi and just racist. Just because people talk shit on the military doesn't mean people in the military run around and start fights. So you're still an idiot for ignoring my first comment's statement but replying anyway.
taberr5 9 months ago
@taberr5 what the fuck are you talking about
jlaturno 9 months ago
@ChrisGariepy
Funny thing, don't you think? We allow people to murder other people in war with no consequences.
spindle12 6 months ago
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DRAGONKINGOFTIBET 11 months ago
2 german not likr it
abdirahman900 1 year ago
Never seen such a shit!!!!
IXXXJackSparrowXXXI 1 year ago
this so-called documentary stinks somehow. Lots of dubious "facts" and scenarios re-enacted for cheap thrills. Why would anybody, in a wood with perfect camouflage, decide to fix bayonets and charge an enemy fixed position? The Germans were, at that time in the battle, fighting a rearguard action anyway. There was plenty of opportunity to access the situation and circle the threat and report the postion to HQ. At the most, a few handgrenades would have surely eased the "situation"...
SuperQuiller 1 year ago
@SuperQuiller you can hardly call this a documentary anyway. its way to bais, and to patriotic.
UnrealAussie1 1 year ago
@UnrealAussie1
Very true mate
SuperQuiller 1 year ago
lol at this TV show:showing only americans,talking only about americans on a battle which is suppose to be about german initiative,it's so equitable and stuff...wait.
unurautare 1 year ago
A banzai charge IS suicide.
HaggenPagan26 1 year ago
Bayonet charges....rarely occured in th European theatre with American forces......now thats frickn brave. especially to come out as th victor after th charge...frickn amazing and heroic!!!
kinglijah 1 year ago
@kinglijah dont forget in that charge they were very lucky the germans were facing the other way. otherwise the mg42s would of pumped 1200 rounds into them per minute.
Micklinehan 1 year ago
@Micklinehan true, but still brave of them to have done that and a great decision also made at th right time.
That was th whole point because they had th chance to utilise th opportunity of fixing bayonets due to th enemy having no clue at all as to what was behind them AND they had their backs faced towards them.
Th element of surprise, th advantage, th victory.
kinglijah 1 year ago
@kinglijah or stupid.
UnrealAussie1 1 year ago
@UnrealAussie1 yeh true, but it turned out it wasn't.
Was a very strategic decision, well played at th right time.
kinglijah 1 year ago
BONZAI ATTACK AMERICAN STYLE EPIC XD "GERONIMO!"
Luvannaxo 1 year ago
no single country in the world at that time would have stood a chance against germany 1on1 those are facts. the world can thanks canada,usa,england,australia,russia and ordinary citizens turned guerilla fighters for the victory.
BumJuiceDrinker 1 year ago
@BumJuiceDrinker russia basically did with 70% of the german forces fighting on the eastern front and still where pushing through faster then the other allies and the USA maybe could have if it kept up its massive industrial power.
ahnilator123 1 year ago
@BumJuiceDrinker actually mate the russians would have, because they are the main contributing factor for the turning point in the war, they pretty much faced the full force of the german war machine and while they lost heavily in early stages the lack of preperation the germans had for the russian winter is one of the main reasons why they lost. another reason is because russia is to big a country to invade, if u take half the counrty even they would have over extended their recources.
UnrealAussie1 1 year ago
@UnrealAussie1 Very true statements. But that is the reason the germans TRIED TO take one city/section at a time and divide the attacks. Although they had there forces extended, they focused on main offensive attack points. Plus, if Hitler was even a slightly good strategist, he would have listened to his generals and realized what was going on at the eastern front and made the correct decisions. He was too busy worrying about Moscow to think about strategy. A very smart yet dumbass man
bradleytreseler 1 year ago
@bradleytreseler mate history is the best subject there is, if u dont know your past then the mistakes of the past are continuously repeated
UnrealAussie1 1 year ago
@BumJuiceDrinker actually russia can be the one thanked for the turn of the tide. stalingrade is the key turning point in ww2. afta that the russians started roling them back. that main reason the western front was reopened is because stalin was demanding a second front to take the strain off the russian forces. russia is the only counrty to beat the germans 1 on 1 and to counter attack even better.
UnrealAussie1 1 year ago
@UnrealAussie1 thats not true either, other countries fought 1on1 battles and won too, unlike russia they just didnt need to outnumber the germans 10 -1 to do it. russia is no better than america, both sat on the sidelines for the first couple of years while the other countries wore them down. The only difference between russia and the yanks was russia actually helped germany first, pretty slimy of russians if you ask me.
BumJuiceDrinker 1 year ago
@BumJuiceDrinker where do u even get your logic from, russia is the only 1 to bet the germans 1 on 1 as i said earlier, the allies had multiple countries on the western front. read up on the reason why russia decided to join germany at first to. the west refused to make an alliance with it. and also the germans had the same amount of troops to start with but werent able to recover as easy. russia stands as the sole major reason for the turn of the tide in the war afta stalingrade.
UnrealAussie1 1 year ago
While the Soviet Army took on the brunt of the Wehrmacht, do not forget that the British were fighting the Italians and Germans since 1941 in North Africa joined later by Americans in 1942; a strategically important battlefield which later moved onto Southern Europe.
and While the Western front didn't materialize until 1944, do not forget the often neglected canal front: the strategic bombing campaign by the US and GB which did its part in the systematic destruction of the German war industries.
Eurofighter19 1 year ago
@Eurofighter19 dont assume i dont know about that mate. the british are the also 1 of the main reasons for the end of ww2, if they had not resisted the germans like they did then there would have been no way for the western front to be reopened
UnrealAussie1 1 year ago
@UnrealAussie1
The reason of my assumption is because in the message that I replied to; you more or less insinuated that the Soviet Union defeated Nazi Germany on its own, when in fact every single Allied nation did its part on bringing the Axis powers on its knees and no nation deserves more credit than the other one.
If I misunderstood your statement, my mistake.
Eurofighter19 1 year ago
@Eurofighter19 every nation deserves credit on bring th axis to its knees yes, but u also must understand that until stalingrade the germans were undefeated and that russia deserves the credit for turning the tide of the war
UnrealAussie1 1 year ago
@UnrealAussie1
While I'm well aware of the turning point of the war for the Wehrmacht on Stalingrad; keep in mind that by the time Nazi Germany invaded the Soviet Union, the Germans were not undefeated.
by not achieving air superiority against the RAF that arguably would have enable the Wehrmacht to conduct an amphibious assault against Great Britain and thus a invasion, the outcome of the Battle of Britain can be considered as the first strategic defeat for Nazi Germany.
Eurofighter19 1 year ago
@Eurofighter19 yes the battle of britain is still britains finest hour, and yes it is the first strategic defeat, but it wasnt a turning point like stalingrade was, britain was a stronghold after that, a last bastion on the western front, from which an attack could later be lanched
UnrealAussie1 1 year ago
@UnrealAussie1
That pretty much makes my point.
Nazi Germany was not undefeated by the time of Operation Barbarossa.
Eurofighter19 1 year ago
@UnrealAussie1
And while the battle of Stalingrad did in fact broke the back of the Wehrmacht as a effective offensive army (as a defensive army it remained deadly until the very end of the war in Europe), keep in mind that the Eastern Front was a battlefield among others on the overall global conflict.
The fighting on the Pacific theatre, the IBC theatre as well as the Western European Theater had their respectively turning points.
Eurofighter19 1 year ago
@Eurofighter19 yes but the germans did nt win against the russians after stalin grade, they still had victories against the allies on the western front, the battle of the bulge is a key example, if they werent low on recources they would have had a major chance on closeing the western front and the push would have had to start all over again.
UnrealAussie1 1 year ago
@UnrealAussie1
Are you suggesting that while Soviet forces didn't receive any counterattack by the Wehrmacht after Stalingrad, the Germans were the victors of Battle of the Bulge?
Just as the German counterattack was crushed by Western Allied forces due to a acute lack of oil -a direct result of the bomber war-. the Soviets too endured a massive German counterattack during the Battle of Kursk during 1943 which also ended in defeat by the Wermacht due to inferior resources against the Red Army.
Eurofighter19 1 year ago
@Eurofighter19 were are u getting that the germans didnt counter attack on the eastern front, read what i said, and again read what i said about the bulge counter attack, i specifically, mention the fact of their low recources. but yes it is a small victory in a way, due to the fact of how far they were able to punch staight into the western lines, weres as on the eastern front in 1943 they didnt get anywhere
UnrealAussie1 1 year ago
@UnrealAussie1
Let me refresh your memory "yes but the germans did nt win against the russians after stalin grade, they still had victories against the allies on the western front"
although the Wermcht did not manage to break into the Soviet lines, they managed to stall the Soviet offensive for some time
If you are willing to put the battle of the Bulge as a little victory for the Wehrmacht; the Battle of Kursk can be placed in the same category. a victory in the form of delaying the offensive.
Eurofighter19 1 year ago
@UnrealAussie1
You may also which to research a little bit more why the Battle of the Bulge happened in the first place.
-From December 16th to 24th Allied Air Forces remained grounded by the weather which enable the Wehrmacht to move quickly with any air resistance that could have stopped the offensive on its tracks.
- By December, Allied logistical supply line were dangerously stretched from the Normandy beaches and hence did not supply the front lines efficiently creating a stalemate.
Eurofighter19 1 year ago
@Eurofighter19 i know enough about the bulge mate, the counter attack in the east didnt stall the russains for some time, it was quickly driven back
UnrealAussie1 1 year ago
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Eurofighter19 1 year ago
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Eurofighter19 1 year ago
@UnrealAussie1
that's it, I'm trough with you.
If the propaganda-filled articles you read suggest that the Aryan and Siberian soldier were much superior to the American and Canadian soldier, I recommend you to start doing some serious unbiased research on the Western front of the ETO.
I can cite numerous reasons of why the Western front was vital for victory the Eastern front and vice-versa But I have the least desire to become your tutor.
Eurofighter19 1 year ago
@Eurofighter19 fuck u mate. u need more tutoring more than me. i read from fucking books nt the internet which it seems u get your info from. the diference with me is my country doesnt produce bias shit. like yours likes to.
UnrealAussie1 1 year ago
@UnrealAussie1
And finally:
-Faulty Allied intelligence which failed to decipher the build up of German panzer divisions behind the Ardennes coupled with well renowned German ingenuity by attacking on the last place the Allies expected a counterattack.
Eurofighter19 1 year ago
its funny how Americans so boast this while in fact the Japanese are using Suicide Tactics full-scale.
luftwaffe789456123 1 year ago
@luftwaffe789456123 You don't think Americans know that? We had to fight the Japs. Americans know all too well.
HaggenPagan26 1 year ago
@luftwaffe789456123 - Maybe the fact that their bayonet charge were rare but usually successful. Take Korean war for instance were Americans charged a larger Chinese red army with bayonets.
emmthreejonny 1 year ago
@emmthreejonny if bayonet charges were successful every military in the world would use that tatic mate. and i wouldnt use the korean war as an example of a successful boyonet charge, due to the fact that 700 australians held back over 10,000 chinese soldiers doing a bayonet charge in one night
UnrealAussie1 1 year ago
@UnrealAussie1 -The bayonet charge I was refering to were Lewis Milett's 27th Infantry, and the 65th Infantry regiments.
emmthreejonny 1 year ago
@UnrealAussie1 Very true again! I can tell u love ur history as much as i do. The australians have always been an underestimated/unrecognized force if you ask me. They deserve more fame and respect than they recieve. The Japs and Chinese have always made the mistake of charges, as allied forces would just mow them down until they were all dead. A very meaningless way to go out if you ask me. Only time it is respected is when it is a success. Do u collect ww2 by any chance?
bradleytreseler 1 year ago
@luftwaffe789456123 Yeah, but Japs were using the bonzai attack like assholes. The Allies and any other Axis, besides the Japanese, were using it correctly. ALL the time, bonzai attacks unnessesarily in situations.
Hikarilover123 1 year ago
@Hikarilover123 i think its banzai attack.bonzai is a type of midget plants.hahahaha
marudi84 1 year ago
@marudi84 That's right. Sorry!
Hikarilover123 1 year ago
Thanks to the American forces for defending us. Fuck, they went all out savage on those fucking square-head Germans. I would have done the same. Imagine the rage/adrenaline pumping through their bodies as they fucking sliced them with bayonets.
StuntKing909 1 year ago 2
great videos thank you, once again lesson not taught in history books these are and were great soldiers thank you for your heroism and sacrifice you are not forgotten!!
kutulu6 1 year ago
@kutulu6 this isnt history mate this is bias shit to make the americans look heroic. this is nt history here. this is more a war movie than a documentry
UnrealAussie1 1 year ago
I don't know why God allowed this to happen, but in the end, good did triumphant over evil. Maybe he was looking ahead at what lay in store today, the evil, child killings, murders, all the things we see on the news everyday. We just don't have justice like we used to. Too many slaps on the wrist.
debzeppeliniv 1 year ago
@debzeppeliniv dont bring god into this mate. god is a fictional character made up by ppl to explain things that they didnt understand
UnrealAussie1 1 year ago
Bonzai American Style LOL
mastermike95 2 years ago
I would rather have the bad memories than being dead. R u that fuckin stupid? Be sweet & be nice & die, or kill a few & live. Darwin called it "Natural Selection" or "Survival of the fittest'. I have killed a couple n Afghanistan, and guess what? I sleep very good at night. U need a reality check. Life is not sweet little people that u can talk 2 & work out your problems on the battlefield, but then again, what would someone from Finland know about that?
democratichypocrit 2 years ago
wtf how can u confuse me with some1 who from finland especially. wen i hav the name unreal aussie. no n i think u need a reality check, if u think its alright to do wat they did shown in this clip then u deserve that kind of death, n i hope it comes n gets u. in war also u should always show respect to yor enemy n in return they usually will do the same, n if they dont then u still show it, because then it shows u deserve to win n that u r not willing to sink down to ther level.
UnrealAussie1 2 years ago 2
What ever death comes my way, So be it. There is only 1 way 2 win, & that is 2 live. Dying for a cause is why they call it "the ultimate price". Warfare is not a TV sport, even though that is how the TV wants 2 portray it. No one ever won a war by dying for his country. He won a war by making the other poor son of bitch die for his cause.
democratichypocrit 2 years ago
u just basically summerized wat General George S. Patton said once
P51F86F4F15F22 2 years ago
agreed
P51F86F4F15F22 2 years ago
ive killed my fair share in iraq didnt count though and killed also in afghanastan also war is dirty u fight until u r dead r the other guy is
P51F86F4F15F22 2 years ago
@democratichypocrit Try and Google "Simo Häyä" or "The Winter War". Finland has faced and survived in the face of odds you would never dream off. Finns know more of war than most.
Thanks and respect for risking your neck in Afghanistan, but get some enlightenment please.
PalleRasmussen 2 years ago 2
Well I guess who needs enlightenment since we have Finland right? Please I dont want your respect. I dont need it. It doesnt matter what you think of me, it only matters what I think.
democratichypocrit 2 years ago
This is about the "battle of the bulge"not Finland's war with Russia,so why do you feel the need to try to enlighten us Americans on a video that has to do with Americas role in WW2 and not the Finnish Russian war?I'm sure their are other youtube videos on that subject,this is not one of them
GOODFELLAS74 2 years ago
Because, as is evident if you check what I reply to, some unenlightned countryman of yours is badmouthing Finns for knowing nothing of war. Apart from the fact that the fellow he adressed was an Aussie, which was evident from his name, I point out that Finns know more of war than most. And off fighting very bad odds.
That is why, if you are an enlightened American and knows that there are people outside your borders with competence and experience- good on you, but that fellow obviously did not.
PalleRasmussen 2 years ago 2
Finns know more about war because they fought well against the Russians?well in that case the Greeks are masters of war because they have been invaded for thousands of years,what about former Yugoslavia don't you thing they would know more about war? Israel!! they were attacked by many invaders at once they know some things on war almost every country in Europe has had its share of invasions and very bad odds America a very young age had some really bad odds in two wars with the British.
GOODFELLAS74 2 years ago
In theory you are right, but military historians- even professionals (including me)- and military men (which I once was) all over the world consider the Finnish experience and doctrine something special and study both it and Finnish doctrine today as something unique. I advice anyone with an interest in military matters to do so. Ex-Yugoslavians have lots of experience as well, but more with banditry and slaughter than war, and are indeed used as hired killers by many criminals in Europe today.
PalleRasmussen 2 years ago 2
something special? well maybe but their are countless times in history were smaller forces have fought off larger forces it always is special and unique, I don't have to give you examples because Im sure you already know,as interesting as the Finnish Russian war was I wouldn't say the Finns know more about war based on that,it shows that finland had a small but very capable armed forces that maybe something that most of you can be proud of.
GOODFELLAS74 2 years ago
I am not Finnish, I am Danish and we surrendered when germany came knocking- not something I am proud off, but it did allow us to retain self-rule and not become "North Germania" as some nazis wanted.
In a sense I agree, but the force inequality in the Winter War has actually rarely been matched. We do actually consider it special, and it is. Add to that the conclusions it made Hitler draw and the fact that the Finns fought the USSR, for many years our main enemy, and thus also merits study.
PalleRasmussen 2 years ago 2
Denmark didn't have a strong armed forces in the 40's it never really had a strong military tradition like France or Germany so they didn't have much of a choice in surrendering it was the smart thing to do at the time,fighting back would of caused many civilian deaths I could be wrong but I don't think Denmark had any jewish population so I think the civilian population was left alone by the Germans.
I've been to Denmark, everyone was very nice,one of the few places I would like to live at
GOODFELLAS74 2 years ago
BTW, Denmark had a population of 7000 Jews during WWII 6700 of these escaped due to the Danish resistance, normal Danes not accepting deportation and... cooperation from the German authorities. The game played in Denmark was "if we are not too harsh, you will not misbehave". So a German basically leaked the info on the coming roundup and the Danes acted.
PalleRasmussen 2 years ago
And thanks, as long as outsiders behave, we are pretty nice- if a bit introverted.
PalleRasmussen 2 years ago
@GOODFELLAS74 let use remind u that the 13 colinies didnt actually win decisive battles, the american war of independence was a stalemate
UnrealAussie1 1 year ago
Finland were allies to the Nazis, so they could reclaim land from the Russians. I didnt risk my neck in Afghanistan. I actually enjoyed it
democratichypocrit 2 years ago
@democratichypocrit
And should you actually know what you talk about, you'd know that Finland was not an ally to the Reich.
-Matter in fact are very complex in that event of history, but if we talk in crude manner, I can safely refute the allience-claim.
Good for you that you enjoyed your stay in Afganistan.
As a trooper you are not allowed to question the real motives or reasons for U.S. presence in that region, but nice to see someone loving his work.
ArmaFennica 2 years ago
Thanks
democratichypocrit 2 years ago
Finland was Germany's ally, then when Germany was losing they weren't. They were also the first country to pay off their war debt. And you should actaully know what you talk about.
gutstheberserker 2 years ago
@gutstheberserker
...Do read again that part of History, 500 characters is not enough to counter that.
-Allies, we were not. Co-belligent, we were.
I am Karelian, our lands were the ones which the Soviets stole, our kin is the one to habit other areas.
This also means that I know fully well how much and how long we paid to the aggressor.
-We paid to your Ally, the Soviet Union for the war they started, twice.
ArmaFennica 2 years ago
The Finns sure did look good in German uniforms though...
gutstheberserker 2 years ago
@gutstheberserker
Only, they wore no German uniform.
-The Field Gray M35 was the main combat uniform, completed with older field grays and home-clothes.
Some White Guards also wore their own field gear.
Helmets came from half-a-dozen different places, Hungarian and German WW1 stock being the most numerous. Although, usually Finns went on without any helmets.
Happy to reply.
ArmaFennica 2 years ago
Sissu.
Thanks for trying to enlighten the unenlightened with me. However, I fear that one is a lost case, quite unfortunately thus reinforcing Europeans' view of the state of enlightenment of his people.
I have no idea how the USA of 1944, which I <3 and largely admire became the place it is today...
PalleRasmussen 2 years ago
@PalleRasmussen Why whats wrong with the states today? what are you trying to say?
Jaywalk721 1 year ago
In WW II The US stood for freedom and light, a beacon of hope. Its politicians were humane and enlightened and the average farmboy was taught to think for himself and stand up for what he believed in.
Tody, since you ask directly, it seems that US society has polarised into a few enlightened people and a large, dumb, grey mass growing more and more ignorant and caring less and less about anything real. And with a feeling of superiority towards the rest of the world that is unjustified.
PalleRasmussen 1 year ago
Further, the dumb mass more and more seeks refuge in religion, and I happen to not be too keen on people who are ardently and fanatically religious. Whatever faith they follow.
And no, I am not amongst those hating the US for its foreign policy. Very few have the right to, most countries have thrown around their weight when they could.
I admire the few, pity the many. But that is what I believe is wrong with the US today, it is the most extreme example of what Giddens calls "Vagabond Society".
PalleRasmussen 1 year ago
@PalleRasmussen And what may i ask is your source for these claims? have you ever been to the states? How can you so readilly generalize such a large country with such a big population without siing a source
Jaywalk721 1 year ago
@Jaywalk721 You think one learns anything by visiting a large and diverse country? Not unless one lives for years there and pays attention.
No- in short-, I read American newspapers, debate with Americans, read American books (with pleasure), read US sociology, political theory and economic theory, watch the political system, and is subjected to the mass culture produced in America. All this leaves me with the impression I expressed. Do not worry, I am not too happy with any society these days.
PalleRasmussen 1 year ago
this is wat u call savages. this is not bravery its showing how inhumanity towards other ppl. they deserve these bad memories, i hope they remember wat they did to others every day fro the rest of their lives. same goes for the germans.
UnrealAussie1 2 years ago
Im sorry. I confused you with the ignorant mother fucker from Finland. You both write so much the same. Fuck off
democratichypocrit 2 years ago
Here I am, democratichypocrit.
-Though, I am neither motherfucker not ignorant. I'd say you on the other hand have one of the said two qualities.
Speak your mind, then. See just how ignorant I am.
ArmaFennica 2 years ago
Why should I say something when you do it for me?
democratichypocrit 2 years ago
@democratichypocrit
So, you bash and taunt, until you are called upon to back yourself up. Interesting.
-You can't offer a piece where I was ignorant, but I can point out where you were.
ArmaFennica 2 years ago
Like I said, I dont have to point out where you were ignorant. You did that yourself.
democratichypocrit 2 years ago
@democratichypocrit no mate this is how the world talks, u yanks on the other hand dont have a clue about anything, u treat your president like a god, u are that stupid that you can mix me up with some1 from finland even wen i hav aussie in my name, and i dount you could point to any country out side america
UnrealAussie1 1 year ago
its war its not inhuman to become inraged and kill the guy thats trying to kill u and ur buddies its kill r be killed
P51F86F4F15F22 2 years ago
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gutstheberserker 2 years ago
So what you're saying is that all Aussies were savages in WW2 too, who deserve bad memories for killing innocent Japanese soldiers wanting to torture them to death.
gutstheberserker 2 years ago
never said that both sides most likely have bad memories its just part of human nature
P51F86F4F15F22 2 years ago
@gutstheberserker war was differnet on the european front mate, the germans usually showed respect on the western front, they werent like the japanezse
UnrealAussie1 1 year ago
@UnrealAussie1 war is hell mate u gonna kill them or let them kill you uh?
benny704 1 year ago
@benny704 true that mate
UnrealAussie1 1 year ago
No, they were not suiciding, they were charging at the enemy, so it was a banzai not a kamikaze...........................
WarJunkieAndExpert 2 years ago 16
@WarJunkieAndExpert That is BS. A banzai charge is originally called "Gyokusai" which simply means honorable suicide. A banzai charge is synonymous with a kamikaze because they both mean suicide.
HaggenPagan26 1 year ago
@HaggenPagan26 Banzai attack in this situation was not meant to be a sucicide attack. When the Japs did this, they knew they were ultimately sacrificing themselves for there country/emporer. Banzai USUALLY means suicide attack. U might wanna recheck ur wikipedia definition. This was most certainly a bonzai style attack if ive ever seen one, which fortunately didnt end in death. AKA a successful bonzai attack!!!!!!
bradleytreseler 1 year ago
@bradleytreseler The word " Banzai" was used. When an intelligent person sees " Banzai" the only connotation is suicide. Read the comment I responded to asshole.
HaggenPagan26 1 year ago
@HaggenPagan26
But why do you think that Historians associate a bayonet charge with a banzai, and a suicide attack a kamikaze so specifically? Because, banzai = charge (charging may not always result in death) kamikaze = suicide.
WarJunkieAndExpert 1 year ago
@WarJunkieAndExpert
so... what everybody is saying is that wasn't a holy wind, but an honor to the emperor??
hevehoc 1 year ago
LOL American Kamikaze???
nguyenkhan202 2 years ago
no jack ass they went from behind and its not called kamikaze if its on the ground thats only in the air and ocean
P51F86F4F15F22 2 years ago
once fix bayonets is issued, its all balls to the walls from there
sandythebear 2 years ago 17