I totally support cleaning up the "public discourse" and I thin your right on in trying to get both sides to the table to "do the right thing for the nation". What I don't agree with is using this forum or any other political forum using this tragedy of some poor mentally deranged individual in saying that anything other than his mental condition was to blame. Politics, school, parents, socio economic enviroment , religion, and god only knows what else maybe!!!!!!!
A message to our Politicians: I am sick and tired of seeing you publicly speak, campaign and legislate as if your political party is a sports team, as if you are representing a party and not individual Americans. The audacity and shame! If you want to treat the problems in our lives and our nation as your personal competitive sports team get out of politics and sign up for a triathlon. Grow up and act like an honorable adult not some high school teenager who wants to "score."
I am uncomfortable with the partisan and anti partisan posturing seeking to leveraging of the actions of a mentally ill man to a platform of discourse. The left accuses the right of contributing to the act. Palin is vilified for targeting. All such discussion contributes to our separation.
I am particularly uncomfortable with the fact the our liberties will be challenged further as he will branded as a domestic terrorist.
I think that No Labels represents the best possible chance that we have to restore a truly functioning government where there is a serious debate on the issues, a bipartisan attitude where people will work with each other in good faith, and where there will be reasonable compromises at the end of the day just like how there were back in the 1980's under Ronald Reagan and Tip O'Neill. Please support No Labels and share this YouTube video with people who you know!
Sadly, some of the reactions here serve only to amplify Ms. McLean's point. If you listen carefully -- which shouldn't be hard, the video is only a minute long -- she does not blame anybody for the shooting in Tuscon, nor does she attempt to politicize it. She merely states, factually, that the shooting has "sparked a conversation in America," which it most certainly has done. No Labels did not make this connection, it is merely saying the conversation is a good one to have. Isn't it?
@Okenville Amen. Please stop arguing semantics and start trying to prevent similar tragedies from occuring again. There is no one answer, but hate or prejudice are certainly not aimed in the direction we need.
To those commenters who say this video just politicizes the shooting, watch again. At no time does she say anything about politics. What she is saying is that we, as Americans, need to start engaging each other in a civil way. How can you say that that is political or exploitive?
We cannot pretend that the words we use do not matter, while simultaneously believing them to be more potent than those of anyone else's. That belief covers two definitions: it's sociopathic and narcissistic...and dangerous.
I think this is just politicizing this tragedy, which is what I thought NO LABELS was NOT going to do.
I'm disappointed that No Labels is using a sick, derranged individual in this political way and trying to exploit this situation to gain exposure.. Very disappointed.
"No law can replace personal responsibility. The more power one has, the more influence one has...thus the more responsibility one has." Words that I spoke at a rally in late-Summer/early-Fall. Who would have guessed that those would prove so immediately necessary? It's tragic.
"The words we use really do matter, because there's this vast echo chamber, and they go across space and they fall on the serious and the delirious; they fall on the connected and the unhinged alike." - Bill Clinton
I disagree with this video clip. Go ahead and make a statement about the discourse but don't connect it to this shooting. Sadly NoLabels seems go just be playing politics. I had really hoped this organization was for real.
I have been accused of being a right wing puppet by AnushAAA. I block all cable news channels at my house. I get my news from NPR, the News Hour on PBS and The Daily Show. But that does not matter because, I am able to make my own decisions on what I think is right and wrong and this to me this was way wrong. No Labels if it was for real could have rose above the politics but it couldn't . We should be talking about mental illness not about political commentators.
As long as our political system is all about what "my party" says, and not about what is best for most Americans, we will have this anger and hatred shown on the internet and in the media. It is time to work as a team, and stop encouraging people to act against "opponents".
Wowwwwww
Shocked!!!I have to admit
There is still some people thinking with their own brain
I'm deeply sorry for my accusation, Glad I was wrong
AnushkAAA 1 year ago
I totally support cleaning up the "public discourse" and I thin your right on in trying to get both sides to the table to "do the right thing for the nation". What I don't agree with is using this forum or any other political forum using this tragedy of some poor mentally deranged individual in saying that anything other than his mental condition was to blame. Politics, school, parents, socio economic enviroment , religion, and god only knows what else maybe!!!!!!!
pasitolobo 1 year ago
A message to our Politicians: I am sick and tired of seeing you publicly speak, campaign and legislate as if your political party is a sports team, as if you are representing a party and not individual Americans. The audacity and shame! If you want to treat the problems in our lives and our nation as your personal competitive sports team get out of politics and sign up for a triathlon. Grow up and act like an honorable adult not some high school teenager who wants to "score."
VanGoghLipstick 1 year ago
I am uncomfortable with the partisan and anti partisan posturing seeking to leveraging of the actions of a mentally ill man to a platform of discourse. The left accuses the right of contributing to the act. Palin is vilified for targeting. All such discussion contributes to our separation.
I am particularly uncomfortable with the fact the our liberties will be challenged further as he will branded as a domestic terrorist.
The fact is that this is a mentally ill man.
pdcarey 1 year ago
I think that No Labels represents the best possible chance that we have to restore a truly functioning government where there is a serious debate on the issues, a bipartisan attitude where people will work with each other in good faith, and where there will be reasonable compromises at the end of the day just like how there were back in the 1980's under Ronald Reagan and Tip O'Neill. Please support No Labels and share this YouTube video with people who you know!
Mitch Dworkin
Dallas, Texas
md6920 1 year ago
Sadly, some of the reactions here serve only to amplify Ms. McLean's point. If you listen carefully -- which shouldn't be hard, the video is only a minute long -- she does not blame anybody for the shooting in Tuscon, nor does she attempt to politicize it. She merely states, factually, that the shooting has "sparked a conversation in America," which it most certainly has done. No Labels did not make this connection, it is merely saying the conversation is a good one to have. Isn't it?
Okenville 1 year ago 4
@Okenville Amen. Please stop arguing semantics and start trying to prevent similar tragedies from occuring again. There is no one answer, but hate or prejudice are certainly not aimed in the direction we need.
irongiant224 1 year ago
To those commenters who say this video just politicizes the shooting, watch again. At no time does she say anything about politics. What she is saying is that we, as Americans, need to start engaging each other in a civil way. How can you say that that is political or exploitive?
schvig 1 year ago 3
Four words: "Jeremiah Alvesta Wright, Jr."
How come I have a harder time imagining Ms. McLean speaking out so movingly against certain other kinds of intemperate rhetoric?
TooCloseToHome 1 year ago
A discussion of cooling our discourse is not political, it's common sense.
vistaridgefarm 1 year ago
We cannot pretend that the words we use do not matter, while simultaneously believing them to be more potent than those of anyone else's. That belief covers two definitions: it's sociopathic and narcissistic...and dangerous.
limolnar 1 year ago
I think this is just politicizing this tragedy, which is what I thought NO LABELS was NOT going to do.
I'm disappointed that No Labels is using a sick, derranged individual in this political way and trying to exploit this situation to gain exposure.. Very disappointed.
mfdaly1 1 year ago
"No law can replace personal responsibility. The more power one has, the more influence one has...thus the more responsibility one has." Words that I spoke at a rally in late-Summer/early-Fall. Who would have guessed that those would prove so immediately necessary? It's tragic.
"The words we use really do matter, because there's this vast echo chamber, and they go across space and they fall on the serious and the delirious; they fall on the connected and the unhinged alike." - Bill Clinton
limolnar 1 year ago
I disagree with this video clip. Go ahead and make a statement about the discourse but don't connect it to this shooting. Sadly NoLabels seems go just be playing politics. I had really hoped this organization was for real.
seanvanleuven 1 year ago
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AnushkAAA 1 year ago
@AnushkAAA
I have been accused of being a right wing puppet by AnushAAA. I block all cable news channels at my house. I get my news from NPR, the News Hour on PBS and The Daily Show. But that does not matter because, I am able to make my own decisions on what I think is right and wrong and this to me this was way wrong. No Labels if it was for real could have rose above the politics but it couldn't . We should be talking about mental illness not about political commentators.
seanvanleuven 1 year ago
As long as our political system is all about what "my party" says, and not about what is best for most Americans, we will have this anger and hatred shown on the internet and in the media. It is time to work as a team, and stop encouraging people to act against "opponents".
brooklandsspeedway 1 year ago
Blaming anyone but the nut job who did this is dishonest. This shooting had NOTHING to do with our political discourse, and you know it.
dontwc 1 year ago