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  • Great courage!!!!! Health care is the most important progressive mission of the 21st Century like Medicare was in 1965. It is horrible to see millions with no health insurance. That is wrong. Mr. Moyers thanks for showing us this.

  • NO! NO! NO! to this health care bill; it all sounds good when Obama gets on the air waves blowing smoke up people's ASS! What he isn't saying is under this new Health Care Plan the parents or parent with children has to keep there child on there health care plan until they reach the age 26! I've always been a Democrat and even voted for Obama, but I must agree with the rep on this one there is parts of this bill that really "stinks", and the public is in for a very rude awaking should this pass.

  • Economic Classism is like when some Rich Congress People of the U.S. vote for Billions of Dollars annually for Military Weapons that kill and destroy and Billions and Millions of Dollars to be sent to other Countries, and yet, for the American Middle Economic Classes downward, they fight like Crazed Wild Cats against__ They fight Tooth and Nail against BENEFITS for the People of the United States of America.

  • Economic Classism is like when some Rich Congress People of the U.S. vote for Billions of Dollars annually for Military Weapons that kill and destroy and Billions and Millions of Dollars to be sent to other Countries, and yet, for the American Middle Economic Classes downward, they fight like Crazed Wild Cats against__ They fight Tooth and Nail against BENEFITS for the People of the United States of America.

  • Insurance CEO's should not be allowed to sleep at night. That is their reward that money can't buy.

  • When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for ONE people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and EQUAL station to which the Laws of Nature and of Natures God ENTITLE them, a Decent Respect to the opinions of HUMANKIND requires that they should declare the CAUSES which impel them to the separation.-"from FOR PROFIT CANNIBALS!

    SINGLE PAYER OR DIE BROKE!

    research HR 676...

  • Congress is on solid Constitutional ground in expanding health insurance coverage in essentially any fashion that is politically and socially feasible.

    The individual mandate may well be odious for other reasons without a strong public option, it basically forces everyone to become a customer of a private insurance monopoly. But constitutionality aint one of em.

  • All the Repugs love the Tenth Amendment, which is usually what they are referring to when they call something unconstitutional (except for, of course, gun control). It says, The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." I'm not a constitutional scholar, but I am not aware of any otherwise valid laws being struck down by the Supreme Court on the basis of that Amendment.

  • you want health care but you're gonna get screwed.

  • Watch a new documentary called Money Driven Medicine ...on PBS, August 28th 2009

  • The words "socialism" or "unconstitutional", are bogus. The Medical industry spends $1.4 million A DAY, of YOUR PREMIUMS, to defeat the people's wishes, this health care reform inititive! I was denied coverage for new dentures because it was, "cosmetic". Cosmetic? Do you mind if I eat? I've been paying insurance premiums for over forty years.

    The CEOs think $10 million a year is not too much. Who are these people? The constitution provides for the "people's welfare" and "common good".

  • Bottom line, it is unconstitutional.

  • How so?

  • You won't here the dems breath a word of truth because power is the cure. They want to control the masses, Teddy Roosevelt first proposed national health insurance in 1912, FDR proposed it again in the 1930s. Harry Truman proposed it again in the 1940s. They've been waiting along time for this progressive power holy grail issue, healthcare is the way to pure Socialism, Reagan was warning of this as far back as the 60s. Oh, let's not forget Hillarycare.

    Why are they pushing it so hard?

  • You are delusional....socialized medicine is where both supply and demand is controlled by the government.

    Reagan's propoganda was taken directly from the PR books of corporations.

    In canada, our doctors are private...only the insurance is public.

    They are pushing so hard becuase unless the supply is more competitive and the demand side offers a more affordable, collectivized insurance, healthcare will collapse.

  • Because health care is a right to all Americans. This issue goes beyond democracy or socialism or communism. It's the right to continue to live.

  • Hang the bastards.

  • You only need to look at the economies of Canada or England and ask yourself "how come their economies have not ground to a halt after so many years of this "dangerous socialist" health care system. Or "why do they live an average of three years longer than Americans" with this "socialized" system. Maybe a for-prifit police or fire department would be appealing to these right-wing turds, or a for-profit library? - Because that would make them the mafia & a used book store.

  • You're right kipptumor. The British and Canadians are more civilized than Americans. Americans are barbarians.

  • No, their media is more truthful. Americans are stupid because their media outlets host liars and lunatics.

  • Wow way to stereotype.

  • this may all be true, but I still don't want a single-payer option which will eventually happen with the incentives now in the bill.

  • wow, way to give lip service to the other side of the debate.

  • Watching this debate play out from Canada is sad. The blatant lies that Americans have been told about our health care system would be funny if they weren't so full of evil intent.

    Sadly, there is no hope that Obama will have the courage to confront and shame the many members of congress who have been bought and paid for by the health care industry.

    Meanwhile, Canada (along with most civilized countries) will continue to enjoy the competitive advantage of universal health care.

  • Repeat after me, people are not a commodity! However, the insurance companies have done a fabulous job convincing people that they are nothing but a commodity. It is hard to believe that people are still concerned with the pennies in their own pockets rather than saving a lives.

    Medicare needs to be available to all who want it as a public option, thereby reducing the rates seniors pay and give access to millions who want an affordable no nonsense insurance plan.

  • Obama will ruin the United States in ways that George Bush won't even dream of.

    Obama will consolidate banks under the privately-run Federal Reserve.

    Then, to justify tax hikes that will erode middle class and to help pay off his extravagant bailout bills for corrupt bankers, he will sugar coat it with "free health care!"

    Obama has rock-star qualities, but he is no scientist, intellectual, scholar, or visionary.

    What a shame!

  • You have as much credibility as your nickname, that is, none

  • When the USA was founded, it was a Republic. Now it is a Fascist regime. Corporations control DC. We enter wars with false flag attacks so our corporations can prosper. Our elected officials keep health insurance corps. in place because they spend $1.4 million a day in lobbying efforts and line their pockets with blood money. The $1.4 million comes from denying care to a patient who paid premiums for care. Elected officials who take this payoff are just as guilty as those who pay it out.

  • Please google William McGuire, former CEO of United Health. He received a $1.1 billion golden parachute. The reason he was let go was because of a back dating option scandal that ,if not found out, would have netted him $1.6 billion. Guess William couldn't live on the hundreds of millions he made each year. While he was CEO, William was a large contributor to many eleceted officials. Many elected officials line their pockets by choosing not to understand the health care problem.

  • Thanks for this report.

  • Mr. Moyers, Thank you very much for this report and the theme.

    The case of Robin Beaton in this video is more common than you might think. Even Republican representative Barton would be denied coverage by the health insurance companies if he were to look for an individual plan.

    If the health insurance companies and hospital associations invested the $1.4 million a day in giving better care, then they would be making a better statement than just by buying expensive ads and paying lobbyists.

  • This issue echoes the haunting truth revealed in the film "The Obama Deception" available to view on YouTube.

  • I think they best system will be health saving accounts that employers and government pay into for citizens. The systems should be built to take advantage of the fact that people are healthy more than sick. For example, that woman looked about 40, she probably had 20 years of relatively good health. She would have had 30,000 for her surgery if that insurance premium money had been paid into a HSA instead of a insurance policy for 20 years.

  • The problem I have with this whole debate is people are not talking about paying for healthcare. They are talking about paying for insurance. Insurance and healthcare is not the same thing. Socialize healthcare drives health providers out of the the system over time. Privatize healthcare drives patients out of systems through cost. Either way less people get the care they need.

  • Human beings ARE NOT numbers. You cannot calculate the value of a human life some kind of speculative arithmetic.

  • Employers paying for health care makes sense when everybody works. But what if the bankers did wanted to make slaves and kill anybody not brainwashed ?

    What if the economic depression was artificial ? And done by the same shareholders profiting from your sickness ?

    What if the same guys owned medias, the FED and drove the government ?

    What if the same guys created all wars for profit ?

    What if the Bible was true ? Or The Protocols of Zion a reality ?

    What if you suddenly woke up ?

  • thanks Bill Moyers for another great report.

  • Amen. Thank God for Bill Moyers.

  • RECISSION, RECISSION RECISSION

    "PRE-EXISTING CONDITION"  the scariest word in the language of health care !!

    A lot scarier than the boogeyman's "socialized" medicine.

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