oh please, even God himself wasnt able to resist his ego and then you want us to let go of it? ego is a part of us, you can hide it or pretend that you dont have it but deep inside us ego will remain till the end of our days
Every emotion we have is either expressed or suppressed fairly quickly unless we act consciously on it. I think the key is expressing emotions such as anger in a healthy way.
There is a difference between attaching to your anger and expressing it. Does that make sense?
Anger can be made conscious by accepting it rather than mirroring it and becoming the anger.
This is a tough question - but what does your anger feel like when there is no agenda to react to it, what does it look like without the presence of an ego or observer?
When we see anger as it is rather than through the lens of the ego, we liberate it.
I can't respond more specifically without knowing the reason you feel your anger is damaging. Do you feel you are suppressing anger on some level?
I usually find jumping to focus on "why am I (hurtful thing said)" is the ego response.
"What is the motive this person has for saying (hurtful thing)" is a more conscious response.
Reacting to things is often a harmful approach. Can you see that you are allowing others to define your sense of power? Once you define it yourself you won't need to jump to defend it in that way.
When you see the reason behind the hurtful behavior, it is usually never an attack.
If someone is being hurtful they are looking for something, acknowledgment, a way to hide their fear, there is always something. The ego perceives it as being hurtful, but it's never that simple.
It comes back to generalizing a person's actions to their whole-self. Victims of hurtful words are often as responsible as the person 'attacking' for identifying with the pain.
Understanding an emotional reaction is definitely much healthier than defending yourself arbitrarily against all actions of anger, if this is what you asked.
Yes, this is right. I mean, theres a guy a work who likes to shoot his mouth of and say stuff thats rude. I took offence before, but after talking about it I realized he was simply looking for respect and felt I was not giving it to him. Its like what you said, "someone is being hurtful they are looking for something, acknowledgment, a way to hide their fear, there is always something" What he was looking for was respect. Thanks Alex.
I'm glad you looked at it from that perspective to find out what this person was looking for. If he does not get respect through anger he will be forced to find a healthier method of obtaining it. Negative behaviours like this are learned - through 'positive' re-enforcement.
Looking to the source, rather than the surface-emotion, always reveals something about ourselves and others that we were not conscious of before.
@cosmanthony21 There's a way of accepting that you are angry & not be attached to it. Covering up or or suppressing anger will only give it strength. So, notice the anger. Be aware of it. You can even say to the self, ok. anger is in me now. It can be felt. This ego feels that it has a good reason to be angry, it was assaulted. That puts you outside of those feelings as an observer, into your true self, which is your essence. Only your true nature is capable of noticing thoughts & feelings.
Yes, Jung himself was said to have the natural ability to move beyond the bounds of his own conscious ego. This ability is something I personally believe anyone can develop.
oh please, even God himself wasnt able to resist his ego and then you want us to let go of it? ego is a part of us, you can hide it or pretend that you dont have it but deep inside us ego will remain till the end of our days
mynameistoshort 8 months ago
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Arashau 10 months ago
My attention perked up when you were you speaking about anger. I have this problem, making my anger conscious. What do you suggest?
cosmanthony21 3 years ago
Hi
Every emotion we have is either expressed or suppressed fairly quickly unless we act consciously on it. I think the key is expressing emotions such as anger in a healthy way.
There is a difference between attaching to your anger and expressing it. Does that make sense?
alexd181 3 years ago
Yes, I think. How to express it when it comes, but in an acceptable and non-damaging way?
cosmanthony21 3 years ago
Anger can be made conscious by accepting it rather than mirroring it and becoming the anger.
This is a tough question - but what does your anger feel like when there is no agenda to react to it, what does it look like without the presence of an ego or observer?
When we see anger as it is rather than through the lens of the ego, we liberate it.
I can't respond more specifically without knowing the reason you feel your anger is damaging. Do you feel you are suppressing anger on some level?
alexd181 3 years ago
Well, for example. When someone says something hurtful, it hurts. Then comes the reaction of pride to give me a sense of power when I feel powerless.
cosmanthony21 3 years ago
I usually find jumping to focus on "why am I (hurtful thing said)" is the ego response.
"What is the motive this person has for saying (hurtful thing)" is a more conscious response.
Reacting to things is often a harmful approach. Can you see that you are allowing others to define your sense of power? Once you define it yourself you won't need to jump to defend it in that way.
alexd181 3 years ago
Ok, so understanding why someone has said something harmful is more healthy than what had actually been said that was hurtful. Is that right?
cosmanthony21 3 years ago
When you see the reason behind the hurtful behavior, it is usually never an attack.
If someone is being hurtful they are looking for something, acknowledgment, a way to hide their fear, there is always something. The ego perceives it as being hurtful, but it's never that simple.
It comes back to generalizing a person's actions to their whole-self. Victims of hurtful words are often as responsible as the person 'attacking' for identifying with the pain.
alexd181 3 years ago
Understanding an emotional reaction is definitely much healthier than defending yourself arbitrarily against all actions of anger, if this is what you asked.
alexd181 3 years ago
Yes, this is right. I mean, theres a guy a work who likes to shoot his mouth of and say stuff thats rude. I took offence before, but after talking about it I realized he was simply looking for respect and felt I was not giving it to him. Its like what you said, "someone is being hurtful they are looking for something, acknowledgment, a way to hide their fear, there is always something" What he was looking for was respect. Thanks Alex.
cosmanthony21 3 years ago
I'm glad you looked at it from that perspective to find out what this person was looking for. If he does not get respect through anger he will be forced to find a healthier method of obtaining it. Negative behaviours like this are learned - through 'positive' re-enforcement.
Looking to the source, rather than the surface-emotion, always reveals something about ourselves and others that we were not conscious of before.
alexd181 3 years ago
@cosmanthony21 There's a way of accepting that you are angry & not be attached to it. Covering up or or suppressing anger will only give it strength. So, notice the anger. Be aware of it. You can even say to the self, ok. anger is in me now. It can be felt. This ego feels that it has a good reason to be angry, it was assaulted. That puts you outside of those feelings as an observer, into your true self, which is your essence. Only your true nature is capable of noticing thoughts & feelings.
elbanydaer 1 year ago
you are very self actualized and enlightened.
qualisarx 3 years ago
letting go of the ego? according to Freudian psychoanalysis and Jung you cant " let go of your ego" it is ( The Concious Mind)
so if we had no ego's we would be zombies.
LimpLoser 3 years ago
Letting go of the ego in terms of Gnosticism, it is described as a process of self-awareness in the 3 centers.
From a Freudian psychoanalysis perspective, if the ego is in fact fixed, then what is the function of the superego in your opinion?
alexd181 3 years ago
alex all i know is the mind has 2 parts the unconcious and concious. some people believe the unconcious contains the Id and Super-ego.
the only part of the mind we have any awareness of is the ego. the id and Super-ego and also the ego are largely unconcious happenings.
their contents and workings can be revealed by Psychoanalysis.
LimpLoser 3 years ago
I believe the goal of Jungian psychoanalysis is to make that which is unconscious, conscious. Wholeness.
cosmanthony21 3 years ago
Yes, Jung himself was said to have the natural ability to move beyond the bounds of his own conscious ego. This ability is something I personally believe anyone can develop.
alexd181 3 years ago
great question, great answers and examples. One component of Alex is great wisdom esp for young person.
moooingcow 3 years ago