Mizoguchi ha Itto ryu and Kendo documentary

[kdelacour]

Kendo is not a sport, never has been, never will be.

Yes it has a sporting element but that is not its intent!

[kendosendo]

kendo is a sport...anyone who does kendo knows this...nothing wrong with sport..some of the highest human achievement are sporting....kendo is stll budo if a sport....all is possible...tell me one kendo player greater than Ali,Fraser,foreman etc but they are great sportsmen and could fight better than any kendo player!!!

[Ryokushindo]

Alot of people here don't understand budo at all. Its disapointing.

[rinjimaikeru]

Anyone that labels kendo as "just as sport" is in one of two situations:

1. They don't actually practice kendo.

2. They practice kendo, but do not understand what they're really supposed to be doing.

Both of these are common conditions. Neither are correct.

[jung567]

anyone know where i can learn any branch of itto ryu plz?

[kendoka0girl]

Very nice video! Just a little dark. Beautiful Kendo at the end. :D

[jung567]

anyone know where i can learn this ryuha in california or ono ha?

[jung567]

i want to learn mizoguchi itto ryu T__T

[jung567]

i like this style... it's really smooth...

[jung567]

i can see ittousai made a legacy... (including kendo and other branches of ittoryu)

[Defsolid]

dang i meant to plus rep you.

[AEGS]

Im sorry kendoscot, but OSU, is said ALOT in Kendo Dojo in Japan. Livd there two years. 4th Dan Kendo.

[AEGS]

6th dan Kendo? and never heard OSU in a japanese Kendojo? Never mind, you know what they say about arguing on internet...

[kendoscot]

must have been a different level of club...ossu is for karate clubs and high schools clubs where a teacher shout at you like some little kid...not done in senior clubs where it is expected all are treated like adults. Certainly not done at the dojos these guys run

[Ghettofitness]

Ihr kennt mich gar nicht ihr Hundekinder! 12 Jahre Karate, ich zerfetz euch Kiddis. Zweifel doch dran du Bastard! Oss oder Ous hat mehrere Bedeutungen:

Guten Tag, war Mir eine Ehre, Aufwiedersehen, vielen Dank.

Also labert nix von irgendwelchen Karatekids

Ihr Amateure!

OSS!

[agreyfox]

If you want to use "Japanese" then say arigato or something like that......or thank you or danke or merci!!!..............not "oss"........ that belongs in "the karate kid" . :oP

[Ghettofitness]

maybe I do karate...

[Ghettofitness]

Super Video, danke fürs teilen!

oss

[kendolad]

trouble with MA is you think you know what masters are. I heard one Aikido master (i.e. 8yh dan) give a talk on swordplay and it was wrong depending on what ryu you learn!If you learn kendo you learn kendo,if you learn shinkage ryu you learn that,nothing is written in stone despite what you think.there is no "one way".Enjoy each way but understand another ryu may have a totally different understanding...even amongts japanese ryu

[oysbayucksay]

woah!my bffs last name is mizoguchi!

[kendolad]

good for you!

[lolinternetslol]

There actually are quite a few high ranking kendoka that troll youtube for lulz, believe it or not.

[greyzorro]

bujustu was training for real fighting and kendo is not..training in modern kendo cannot be compared to training for warfare..do fencing masters in the west think they are producing warriors for modern combat..get real...enjoy and learn...otherwise join the army or a full contact art if you want "bujutsu"..so much aggression in people...do kendo and enjoy what it has to offer...the "do" gives a clue...its a way to peaceful self realisation at its most...you learn from years of hard exercise:o)

[javahippo]

I agree, my sensei always talks about that. He also tells us that in order to become truly great at Kendo, you must over come yourself as your first obstacle.

[cody1234567889]

whats the song

[greyzorro]

kendo is a sport and nothing wrong with that..it couldnt be naything else...all those who talk about it as a form od "Kobudo" are living in fantasy...anymore than western fencing is real fencing!These guys(Ozawa and Minowa )show you can do both and keep it real

[MrTvolaCZ]

kendo is a sport and could be be naything else ---- I disagree.

[yoruketseki]

Kendo is meant to be a sport. That doesn't mean that it can't be formed or altered while retaining the integral fundamentals into an art form. I've never considered kendo anything more than a sport, personally, but I do recognize it as something that can be formed into an efficient martial art.

[MrTvolaCZ]

Well if you say "it is just a sport" or "meant to be a sport" - this means it is being done solely on the training -> competition basis, like other sports. In other words, you practice it so you can compete in tournaments. And this is very different from the way most people do Kendo (inner self development, way of diciplining mind and body). That is why I think Kendo is not really a sport. Maybe partially, but there are MA elements as well. Let's call it "budo" :-)

[yoruketseki]

Cool. That actually answers a couple of questions, though I'm still not as knowledged about Kendo as I'd like to be. I think nowadays, especially in America, Kendo is very commercialized and in those programs it is regarded as little more than a sport or an activity used to dabble with an ancient art. Some schools, I'm sure, are truly zealous about "the way of the sword" and it's easier to see that Kendo isn't just a sport to them. For the most part, though, I agree with you.

[greyzorro]

kendo is a sport,so is cricket and yet both can have deeper meaning i agree but nothing wrong with either being a sport.Kendo should be enjoyed and has little to do with killing etc!Practice with these guys( as i have done and yes they are awesome but also real gentlemen with a great sense of humour).Because things are martial arts they get laden with "mystical" meaning that even most Japanese find amusing!Enjoy Kendo (or Judo or Aikido or Golf!)..it's all there.Practice hard but keep smiling :)

[yoruketseki]

I take Shinkendo (which is way way different than standard kendo) and though it isn't used in competitions, it's portrayed as a killing art (which is why it's not used in competitions) and is more elegant and efficient in bringing someone down than kendo. I still love to watch Kendo and I think it looks like a lot of fun. But I still recognize it as something very different than most martial arts.

[lolinternetslol]

I'd say its a martial art with sporting aspects. People tend to forget the kendo kata and seitei iai parts of kendo when they're talking about it, and only think of shiai.

[greyzorro]

how is it a martial art with sproting aspects? everything about kendo has been changed to make it sport...no way can it be considered"self Defence". Get over it...its a sport with martial art origins...like fencing.I once asked a 9 dan if he did zen..he looked at me and said no i do kendo...thats it!

[lolinternetslol]

What exactly do you mean by doing "Zen"? If by "zen" you mean zen meditation or some other such thing, you don't need to do that to do any koryu or kendo. And as far as the kata goes, I do koryu iai and naginatajutsu, and they're much, much more similar than you think. I've seen 8 dan who had very nice kata and did very good shiai as well. Just because a lot of people focus on shiai doesn't mean there aren't more "budo" oriented kendo dojos out there.

[greyzorro]

kendo kata is far,far removed from koryu kata and is but a reminder of kendo's origins but to be honest it doesnt feature much in everyday kendo...i have seen 8 dans who's kata was poor compared with shiai!!!

[lolinternetslol]

I sincerely doubt that.

[kendoscot]

why....never been to Japan...they dont say "oss"..............unless in bad karate classes

[OmteZero]

@greyzorro

Kendo originated as a fencing exercise. Created by actual Samurai. As it developed it created a unique new approach to swordfighting that stresses direct action. The simple approach throws off many people who obsess about trick moves, steel swords and cutting tests.The sport side of Kendo is only one aspect of Kendo. The ZKNR has links with Japanese Koryu with its Kata, Iaido, Jodo and Naginata programs so I'm not sure what your on about saying Kendos not budo.

[chainz30]

The introduction of bamboo practice swords (shinai) and armour (bogu) to kendo training is attributed to Naganuma Sirōzaemon Kunisato (長沼 四郎左衛門 国郷, 1688--1767).

[karatefella]

Im sure I had this on video years ago - it was part of a multi - part documentary series - Does anyone know the tilte of the complete video and from where it can be obtained ?

[chainz30]

itto ryu was develop in 1800 and that time tokugawa shogunate gave the order to use bogu in practice so every koryu use bogu in training.

[bleachfan80]

the first itto ryu was actually created before the 17th century. i think what you are talking about is hokushin itto ryu.

[SashaInChina]

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[JohnLennon100]

Simply Brilliant and Impeccable .. It seems that Kendo has its roots in Itto Ryu

[chainz30]

itto ryu it's a koryu like shikage , kashima and other kenjutsu ryu, ken do it's diferent it's more like sport

[JohnLennon100]

Kendo it's the modern version of kenjutsu. Instead of focusing on killing an opponent or war startegies, Kendo will focus on duels based on personal growth. Given the fact that there's no point in using a sword to defend ourselves, nontheless kill anybody in war, kendo adapts better to our times and circumstances.

[chainz30]

after wwII they tried to aboliced martial arts that way the change the name jutsu for do in any martials and became a sport, nowdays many sports retuned tothe all ways

[chainz30]

i don't know what if you practice kendo, the interpretacion of kendo it's different for any person , when you take your shodan writting exam you have to define whats kendo for you.

[JohnLennon100]

I do practice Kendo, and for me it's not a sport, nor I engage in winning tournaments. I just to develop good posture, reflexes, clean cuts, self control, strategy, meditation ... a totally different approach from people who just do it as playing soccer or baseball on weekends. I don't critize it, but I just disagree on that.

[chainz30]

i do kendo and iaido , the whole concept of martials arts is to develop yourself, fisically, spiritually and mentally, in kendo it's dificult to decide the whole concept many people think as a sport other not, as a tournamet you could see as a battlefield where you need to win(survive)

[chainz30]

tennen rishin ryu kenjutu, was the style for Kondo Izami the leader of shinsengumi and that time they pracited with bokken and also with bogu. You may said kendo had its roots in Tennen Rishin Ryu

[bleachfan80]

kendo originated in the sengoku jidai or warring states era.

[chainz30]

could you refer any book or link about that!!plz??

'cause at that time it was kenjutsu and iaijutsu and many other martial arts

[chainz30]

introduction of bamboo practice swords (shinai) and armour (bogu) to kendo training is attributed to Naganuma Sirōzaemon Kunisato (長沼 四郎左衛門 国郷, 1688--1767).

[chainz30]

The introduction of bamboo practice swords (shinai) and armour (bogu) to kendo training is attributed to Naganuma Sirōzaemon Kunisato (長沼 四郎左衛門 国郷, 1688--1767).

[five2niner]

Some of the best examples of Kenjutsu Ive ever seen

[sobukaidojo]

Perfect!! thank you for video.

[nihil1]

:O great precision. One cannot expect less from Mizoguchi-ha indeed. :)

[savenomadojo]

Kodansha publishing company wants to tear down Noma Dojo, a historically important dojo on their grounds. Before the war, Noma Dojo was one of the four great dojo of the eastern capital. Now it is the only remaining one. It was the site of the last kendo competition that was attended by the Emperor, and the dojo of the most famous sensei of the 20th century Mochida Moriji sensei.

Please support the movement to save Noma dojo. Come to our page and sign the petition.

[DEFsamurai]

awesome vid...XD i love it.

[MANBEAVER]

A couple of cracking videos you've posted MrTvolaCZ. Ozawa Sensei does look really young here! I didn't recognise him at first.

[Ittosai]

The documentary is called "Budosai" and features Karate(Goju ryu with Higaonna sensei and Shotokai with Harada sensei), Aikido(With Yamada sensei and Tomita sensei), Kendo, Ryukyu Kobujutsu and Capoeira.

[sbishop1]

Minowa sensei is with Ozawa sensei

[Hugonis]

Thanks! Ozawa-sensei looks quite young here...maybe it's the distance and the lighting.

[Hugonis]

I don't mind at all. Thanks for posting this. It's interesting to see the strong influence these kata had on present kendo kata. You wouldn't happen to know who the two kata performers are, would you?

[MrTvolaCZ]

The man with glasess should be Hiroshi Ozawa sensei, but I don't know the second sensei. If anyone knows please let us know.

[blackbeltste]

is that terry oneill narrating? thats a perfect job for terry. he likes to talk.