www.drum.com | PAISTE CYMBALS AT 2008 NAMM SHOW

[RunningLego]

all other cymbals just sound like wood on metal. but paiste is a true sound

[Ryannt93]

I thought the twenty series had been discontinued?

[Ryannt93]

I thought the twenty series had been discontinued?

[fritzburon143]

zildjian has alot of cymbal types thats why comparing to other cymbals it has no match.. but when you test the zildjian k's, ha!! pretty much sure you will very much agree with it.. its just very expensive

[xxxnityninexxx]

I am so getting the 15" Twenty hi hats within a week. Can't wait.

[666godofmetal]

Pretty sure if I robbed banks for a living I would change my targets after visiting this booth. Amazing cymbals.

[shakakamooroar]

zildjian and paiste should collaborate to make the greatest cymbals ever!

[glitchhacker101]

@shakakamooroar No. meinl and paiste should join and make the best cymbal series EVER!

[shakakamooroar]

@glitchhacker101 NO. Meinl, paiste, zildjian, and sabian should make them

[chanan1010]

paiste is strait badass. where is this store? amazing

[glitchhacker101]

@chanan1010 its the NAMM show.

[kmksubled]

its paiste or nothin . i dare anyone to show me a non paiste hi hat that can make a more awsome sound then my vintage 3000 series sound edge hi hat . paiste is an industry standard in my book. i got paiste cymbols from both the old swiss shop and the new shop in germany , both are exelence . any serious drummer will prefer paiste.

[CREAMEGGOFDOOM]

I went to test paiste brilliant alpha 18 crash at my music shop, it was no were near as good as stagg furia rock 18 crash which i bout for £40 less and is absoloutly awesome. CHECK EM OUT

[SkidKid21]

i played zildian zxt's 16" and 18" and they're gone after a year, ive been looking to replace them and im thinking paiste is the way to go, just don't know which version. i play rock and do sometimes use the 18" crash as a crash/ride but they're both completely destroyed. anyway, im looking into something that has a nice crash, whether playing a more soft-rock tune or something i can wail on and don't have to worry about cracking for a bit, and on the >$100 side.. any suggestions?

[crazy4milk]

zildjian is way better than paiste. WAY better. paiste crash cymbals sound like garbage can lids to me.

[IsaacParrack95]

@crazy4milk Zildjian is sooooo overated

[MrLinkDay]

@IsaacParrack95 you are just a POSEEEEEEEER, you dont have own opinion.... sucks..

[inimicalODDITY]

@crazy4milk Whaaaaa? That statement is just insane to me. Go to their website and listen to any cymbal from 2oo2 and up. They are so crazy good sounding. I am currently in the middle of converting from Sabian to Paiste and it was a great decision.

[gerdrummer]

i would like to have a 14" paiste rude sound edge hi-hat

[stickbounce]

paiste...sabian and meinl...all those companies get their ideas from zildjian!!!the ONLY LEGENDARY CYMBAL MAKERS!!!zildjians always have a good sound ever!!!how do you say that paiste is legendary??if they are only 15 years in cymbal making business??zildjian is the best>A CUSTOM , K CUSTOM AVEVIS and ARMAND..top em all!!!i have A CUSTOM cymbal pack..sound great.

[PPanzerr]

@stickbounce Paiste is legendary because of their inovation. They made the first sound edge and other stuff

[gerdrummer]

@stickbounce you need to investigate more my friend. turkish invented cymbals from then on every brand developed their on type of sound.

[nick954rr03]

sabian hhx beats all this shit I will tell you, and beleive me Ive had heaps of cymbals to tittu on upwards of 150 , the hhx is the best so chew of that one for a while..tarrrrrr

[daws25z]

what were those hi hats at 5:51? those were my favorite, they were awesome.

[Something101SH]

Might have to ditch my Zildjians now. :D

[NederlandseDuitser]

@Something101SH

I`m busy ditching them too haha :P started with a 14" pst5 china that wasnt expensive and sounds good, 2nd bought a pst5 8" splash, also def nog bad :) and today I`m proud I bought a 10"thin splash and 16" medium crash.... Those last 2 are from the Alpha series :P I like the sound of em, gonna try em out tonight with my band haha (A)

[SoldatSolutrea]

Don't listen to the Zildjian lovers, Paiste certainly has always been in better quality (German) unlike other companies where they mass produce cymbals as if they were toys. Why does it have to be a competition anyway?

[martinspoonboy]

ive got the 14'' 2002 sound -edge hats which ive grown to love ! thinking of maybe a 16'' full sig crash and an 18'' sig fast crash - i actually prefer the sound of the 2002 rides to the signature rides so im looking for a beastly 24'' 2002 ride ! only heard it but never tried it - has anyone got either sig crashes or the 24'' ride and think theyre good ?

[johnfee33]

both paiste and sabian suck!!!!!!!! allll zildjian mannnnn. zildjian a custom, a series, and k series

[Joeskateapool]

you are crazy. Paiste is legendary and you cannot deny the crisp amazing sounds just because you are a zildjian fan. 2002s, Signatures, RUDES and the alpha series. all amzing lines plus all the others

[fritzburon143]

yah... but i think zildjian is better than hem

[lokomero]

Helllll no man!! i have Paiste after Zildjian and i Can Tell you, as a professional Drummer that i Am, Paiste its for so much far, Better than Zildjian and Sabian!!

[grimreaper957]

thats alot of cymbals

[helenaki8]

wow! this is heaven!

[cristian2001]

jaja massive

[XDrummerSteve]

Hey Goerge...if you look on the end of that stick you will see a tip...very useful in the playing of cymbals and such. Why would you demo hats and ride cymbals with the shaft of the stick? Hi-hats played properly have on entirely differently sound. With that said, I do think Paiste are probably the best sounding cymbals on the market, just overpriced.

[Chrishaswings]

agreed

[jp60476]

he didnt play them improperly! He just didnt play them every way possible...

[blica1]

the twenty's are paiste's answer to zildjian k constantinoples..only with a brilliant finish..great powerful cymbals with that classic turkish cymbal tone and sound....also , i just went deaf with that 20 inch bell ride and the nicko mcbrain signature ride..OUCH !!

[deegirlshopping]

would neil peart like the paiste does any one know i know he used another brand

[jaygodz99]

neil pearts signature series is the sabian paragon...

[Ramen1020]

i cant read neil peart's mind so i dont know

[deegirlshopping]

good for you

[Kal99]

Sound is horrible but at least this guy actually plays his instruments!...compared to other NAMM booths where they just show 'em and talk about the new looks and finishes.

[guitardude1230]

15" hats! Those are brutal.

[ChuckPaulsen658]

they sound fucking GREAT!! Especially the 2002 sound edge ones, they are loud as shit open and they are actually REALLY versatile, but they dont really do that well in REALLY low volume situations, like light jazz in a really small club

[shumped]

yeah you gotta be beating the hell out of them to get the sound which isn't good if you need to be quiet lol

[TJDFlinn]

MEINL's are better :P

[ronoman88]

Dope.

[RhettSchusta]

GARBAGE

[boblong002]

i love the sound of the crash at 3:41

[ronoman88]

" I have a 20in zil cust K that's perfect for riding AND crashing" Perfectly False.

Any quality crash is better for riding and crashing. Understand me?

Ride Cymbals are extremely ltd. cymbals in application. Variety Crashes are better in general. Young plyrs on ltd $ need not waste time on ride cyms. BUY VERSATILE CRASHES. FORGET RIDES! Ex. If you had to buy 1 cymbal for eternity for every application in the world for all styles it would be a 18-19 zil A med crash.

[SuperChuck3]

18" K Dark Thin Crash from me.

[NewDarkAges13]

i have sabian cymbals, but the thing thats keeping my mind to switch to paiste's, is the alpha series and the 2002

[ronoman88]

Nothing is wrong with me but maybe you.

I just want to say it again for young drummers reading.. When buying cymbals especially if you're on a budget. STAY AWAY FROM ANY SIZE RIDE CYMBALS IN GENERAL. The reason in general is crash cymbals example. 18,19,20 are great crashes and excellent "ride" cym. RIDE CYMBALS ARE AWFUL AT BOTH. Avoid them.

Got it! Cool. Unless you have an idea STFU!!!!!!!

[skinsandsticks]

Dude, you have no idea what youre talking about. maybe thats the case for some, but youre speaking for all. Ex. I have a 20 inch zildjian k custom dark ride that is perfect for riding AND crashing. You probably only play punk or just straght rock or metal. Riding on the crash is clearly overused in those particular genres, leading me to believ thats what you play. Expand your knowledge my friend.

[ONIherooftime]

True that... Ronoman, what you said is bullshit... man... I have the Paiste Rude Eclipse and no fucking crash gonna sound like it.... Never!

[anarcy7777u]

i play rock and metal, but somtimes iget bored and play some jazz stuff. i would agree wit u, people use rides way to much as crashes. it doesnt even sound right.

[plopenstien]

i think a RIDE CYMBAL will be better for riding than a crash cymbal which is for crashing, not riding. anyway you should encourage them to buy both and just save up

[skinsandsticks]

Im glad you guys agree with me haha

[MiniMint2]

PaIsTe Fukin RuLe!!!

[ExtremeSkippingFan]

diggin those twenties, Ive got one myself

[rigorouswolf]

lol that d00d down there is a retard

cymbals as well as any part of a drummers drumkit, is all personal preference

a kit that sounds like shit to one drummer, may sound god to the next

[TomakaBonzo]

paiste has so much clarity and tone, far superior to any other brand

[lexuspimpin]

are these better cymbals than sabian i play gospel i love sabian but i do have a paiste 13" psc 3 crash not my favor it but very durable i want to try a better paiste crash like the psc 5 mayb 16" fo more power

[TomakaBonzo]

pst3 series are basically the updated version of the 101s, still brass and for beginners, the pst5 series is made similar to the sheet bronze which the 2002 series is made from, there also very cheap. They sound alot better to sabian B8 or zildjians zbt/zht/zxt cymbals.If you want the next level then go for the alphas, but 2002s and sigs for me

[cedrickgian]

Helll yeaah! hahahaha.

[Videkiazene]

I wanna have a cymbal shop xD

this is the paradise...

[plopenstien]

um why are you trying to dictate what cymbals people use. splashes are used for accents and for riding on some occasions everybody knows this. ride cymbals shouldent be used to crash anyway there for riding. if its your kit then do what you want but i dont think anyone is goig to take the advice of a randomer on youtube

[deathdrummer196]

Man...is useles because the rides first of all are for RIDING buy thin if you want crash the rides in Paiste has some specifications that any other brand has like a big bell ride,the Zildjian sound like a piece of metall being hit and not pingy at all...the Meinl is almost the same thing..almost,the Sabian is good but to small for the vibration to go throught he cymbal to make the full tone 22"and Paiste has a 24inch and pingy so,and splashes are in preference too,but my main point is the rides.

[dayoman7]

lol yea i have a question..what the fuck is wrong with you dude?

ATTENTION YOUNG READERS: do NOT listen to this ronoman88 guy. he clearly does not know a thing about drumming.

[matthewwong107]

if i were to get paiste cymbals which ones should i get (two crashes and ride)? like the which series (2002, pst5, rude)

[DrummerGS]

Im more of a Zildjian guy but when it comes to Paiste, the 2002 series is by far the best.

[phatphace]

2002's, twenty's, alphas, giant beats and signatures are pretty versatile lines so look into them. If your into jazz, afro cuban or dry and trashy sounds then new signatures and traditionals are perfect. Check the paiste site if you want to hear the individual cymbal sounds.

[Mahavishnu80]

The big crashes and thin hats beautiful. Im on a budget and alpha hats and rides work very well for me and if i need a jazz sound i use sticks with the tip cut off.

[outlaw6066]

I wish he'd quit hitting all the cymbals with the shaft of the drumstick. He's hitting everything like they're all crashes. We wanna hear what all the cymbals really produce, especially rides that need to be hit proper with the tips. I couldn't hear the difference in any of them cause this clown from Paiste was hitting everything with the shaft of the drumstick.

[paulwall1981]

Yes they are twenty cymbals. I don't use these cause I am a rock player. I use Alphas and Rudes.

[Strayfender]

i want a paiste powerslave ride cymbal =D

[paulwall1981]

What do you think of the new black Alphas and RUDES that Joey from Slipknott uses and helped make. I think they look amazing. Dose any body esle have an opinon. Let me know.

[Felipe080991]

i have a few of the black alphas... two crashes, hats, two rides, two chinas, two splashes....... and a zildjian zil bel, lol....

[m0vi3man2]

nice to know. xD haha^^ what a stupid comment..

[zeppelinrules69]

are these all from the Twenty series?

[Wolfparade51]

He really sucks at presenting cymbals..

[outlaw6066]

No shit.

[peterson719]

paiste ftl

[1pick2sticks]

If you want a nice sound, but not too loud, would those thin crashes be correct?

[MaxBS]

I tried a 15 inch thin 2002 last sunday. It must beautiful. Seriously stunning. Obviously being more af an effects cymbal at 15 inch i wouldnt use it as a main cymbal. But the sound is superb. Sounded far better than any of the A customs or avedis i tried.

Go try them out, but you wont be dissapointed.

[skiddlecrumms]

it looks like he has a copy of "rise of the ogre" in his hand.

[danlc95]

I dont like any cymbal sound more than what Paiste offers. I use a lot of the 2000, and 3000 series cymbals, and they always capture the sound in my head.

[underscoreisnotvalid]

omg! was that big black dude eric moore??

[abhay108]

i plan on getting paiste twenty 15 inch hi hats. i hope theyre good

[Benjomatic]

They're incredible, I just bought a set and they're by far the best hats I've ever owned and I've worked in a drum store so I've tried literally hundreds.

[audiophile55]

Correction: Carl Palmer begins playing the 24" China Type at 6:16/17. It is the big cymbal, facing the screen, on the right side of the screen. He plays it upside right--which, to me is a better sound than playing it upside down. I play my 2002 22" upside right, and I love it!

[audiophile55]

I can't live w/o my 2002 Paiste's. I am fortunate to have one of the 1970's 22" 2002 Rides, and the sound is absolutely awesome. Also, the 13" Sound Edge high hats really cut through. I also use a 22" 2002 Medium crash, 24" 2002 Ride(which I use as a crash)a 22" china type, 17" crash/ride, 4,5, and 7 "cup chimes and 4,6, and 8" accent cymbals. All these metals are like a gold mine, in my opinion. Paiste's never crack. I've had them for years. Treat them with kid gloves--you wont be sorry.

[Fedenobx]

paiste rocks!!! and paiste signature my favorite... maybe 18' crash for me. i play heavy metal heheh

[DennyAJD]

Paiste, every strokes are music for my ears.

[shanman14]

i want the bonham 15' 2002 sound edge hii-hats, absolutely AMAzing hi-hats!~!!!

[stickyriver87]

i just bought an paiste 2002 18" crash and man that is sweeeeet!

[shanman14]

your lucky

[Goron593]

I love Paiste. Especially the Alpha and 2002 lines.

[COLUMBINE1818]

I can't wait for the Paiste Black Alpha series.

[scorpionfromhell]

have no shame on switching cymbals dude. its all you, just follow your ears. if you like pAisTe better then stop thinking it and do it. im about to change from K zildjian to 2002 and signature from pAisTe.

[TheMakyoura]

Does anybody knows how to order a custom cymbal, dude I think a huge china, like 24" or maybe 30" would be like amazing

[beaverboyor]

get sponsored, nobody that i know makes them that big.

[munichmunich]

stagg!

[audiophile55]

Yup. All you do is call Paiste America. They will make a 24", but you have to buy it through your local(favorite ) music store.

[audiophile55]

If you'd like to hear the sound of a 2002 24" China, type in "CaliforniaJammer1974".Click on Emerson, Lake and Palmer Karn Evil 9 1st Impression Part 2, and listen/watch Carl Palmer's drum solo. He used a 24" there, which he starts playing on at 6:10 into the clip. That drum set weighs 1.5 tons, by the way. Made of stainless steel. No drum stands, he invented the idea for drum racks,and clawless bass drum hoops, clear back in 1973!

[wolfy18]

god i love those brilliant finish crashes. I'm getting more and more persuaded to switch from sabian to paiste if i'm being honest.

[123Baggies]

i would definately get paiste over sabian, in my opinion i found sabian to be a bit ear piercing eg AAXplosion crashes, paiste give away a nice sound to em, i use the alphas and they are absolutely amazing are a really good price, even thought there supposedly mid-range cymbals loads of professionals still use em for all sorts of music, jazz to heavy metal etc, but my opinion maybe different to other people, its all down to ur personal preference but if i was u i would get paiste over sabian

[wolfy18]

yeah i know what you mean. I've got sensitive ears so finding the right cymbals has always been a problem :S I'm currently using AAX dark crashes which i still find harsh on the ear. I've been thinking about trying some paiste or zildjian k hybrids, though they're fucking expensive lol.

[123Baggies]

lol i dont mind zildjian, they r nice cymbals but the prices of the best zildjians i.e A customs, Z customs r way too high, but the paiste signatures r alot aswell, in my opinion the paiste alphs r the best cymbals i have ever heard but thats just my opinion tho

[TheMakyoura]

Look Zildjian is amazing but I just prefer pAisTe.

[akosijimmy]

20" crash omg

[TheMakyoura]

Paiste rocks I mean you can actually buy the cymbals (unlike zildjian) and you get a lot of quality. Even low line paiste cymbals are good not just for live playing but for recording too.

[Barbosa123]

Watch Zildjian videos of how they are made, theyput as much love and care into their cymbals, just like paiste.

[treharner]

i play alphas

[nosocks4life]

i've honestly never heard of paiste before, but now that i've done a little research i realize their cymbals sound amazing

[mouthforwar1]

yea dude i have a full set of those cymbals their same quality as zildjian and sabian, no doubt

[tommathytorrent]

yeah they really are, they're over looked quite a bit because zildjian seem so popular, particularly the A custom series but I really like the warmth and sustain you get with some paiste crash and rides =]

[VittorioPetrina]

This video have a bad audio quality. Maybe is the audio encoding. Very beautiful cymbals sounds. The sounds of the most Paiste is very clear, warmh and sweet.;-)

[phatphace]

paiste is class. I love their cymbal sound and quality as well as their versatility. I'm not a massive fan of the rudes but all their other lines are incredible

[McBc666]

y dont u like rudes?

[phatphace]

I don't play heavy metal. I have no use for the sound

[TonyBono]

Their Giant Beat reissues are the best cymbals I've ever played.

[iqhdwgblkwhvnb]

awsome, cheers dude. been looking at the prices of them and all i can say is whoa... haha still might get one though lol take it easy

[t1bmxfbm]

paiste does rock but im in love with the 2002's best sounding cymbals ever.

[iqhdwgblkwhvnb]

can anyone please please tell me what model of cymbal that is what hes hitting at 3:38. im trying to find out cos it sounds soo nice. thanks to anyone that can help

[dwdrums200]

those were paiste signature reflection i think they are really really nice but alittle expensive but if i had the money id buy some

[owaaaa984]

man i want sum RUDE's and sum Alpha's so badly. He shud hav said wat series those were in cuz they soundd pretty good. i herd paiste's break easily though.

[CheezeyWeezey]

If you play any cymbal incorrectly, it will break. If you play any cymbal correctly, it won't break.

;)

[Sacryfyx]

Who the hell plays on TOP of the HH with the shaft of a drumstick?

[chickenticken]

are pst 5 universal better then the zildjian K custom and A custom? i wanna buy cymbals but i dunno T_T

[Schlomoasdf]

You can´t compare pst5s with K Customs or A Customs...

They´re a different class take highclass Paiste cymbals 2002 or signature

[metallifukinca]

a and k customs are 10000x better than pst 5.

pst5 are the lowest b8 serie of paiste

[ferbizzle101]

it really shows how crappy your cymbals are when you hear these. man i want a whole set.

[mrsiix]

paiste fukin rocks

[BrianMcGooch]

I don't know, I just don't like the sound. On most rides anyway, not all.

[TomakaBonzo]

love paistes

[BrianMcGooch]

i hate crashing rides

[drumsnbass]

go to the paiste website & they have sounds for all their cymbals there...

[drum789]

awesome! you got to go namm! thanks for posting this!!the cymbals sound awesome even though the sound quality isnt that good. paiste rocks!!!