What exactly is Mr. Paisley is supposed to say here, that's spiteful, bigoted or sectarian?
Must have missed it, but seems to this oul taig, that he's just asking some pertinent questions about the RC church's behaviour in investigating their own filthy corruption & abuse, and whether they should maybe be concentrating on that, rather than distractions like this visit to Protestant Scotland, (rather than face their victims in Catholic Ireland, maybe!)
After the English had finished their genocidal ethnic cleansing of the north of Ireland they had to move in many people from Scotland to live on and work the land. The thing most northerners are unaware of is many of these Scots planters came from blood lines going back to when Ireland Ruled much of Scotland under the Dal Riada a kingdom that influenced most of Scotland. In Fact this is why many Scots can still speak Gaelic. Also the term Scotti means Irishman. So Welcome home my Irish Brethren
Eh up IrishBilly. What "English" genocide would that be then? Consider that the English haven't been in control of their country since 1066. When exactly did this happen?
And your blaming that on the English? Watch my videos Billy. No the English population wasn't replaced(although three quarters was wiped out by 'em) however the ruling class from that day to this is Norman.
English working class soldiers were in Ireland for work if they didn't do as the Norman officers told them they lost their jobs and their famillies died.
At least blame the British protestant loving state NOT republican anti-unionist English people like myself.
No because the Nazi's for the most part were led by the Germans and austrians or whatever however the British were led by the Normans maybe a few celts. The English were just soldiers.
And if you'd read my post you would realise that Queen Victoria is as English as you are Billy.
England is the only English colony. Colonized at the invitation of the Celtic kings of the time.
I never denied there was genocide in Ireland I'm questioning who you're blaming.
I suppose Trav Connelly was English too! Or maybe the Dutch are they English? Black chieftens sold slaves to europeans including the Irish. The reason some blacks have Irish names is because they were named after their masters.
America has had a long history of state legalized slavery going back to when it was an english colony.
History is always a grey thing in that i'm aware,but sometimes it is a black shameful thing and england has cast the darkest of black shadows over Ireland for too long.
@TheNormankingdom This passage is taken from Umberto Eco's Foucault's Pendulum page 484 chapter 93
The only society known to us capable of rivaling us in these arts is that of the Jesuits. But we have succeeded in discrediting the Jesuits in the eyes of the stupid populace, because that society is an open organization, whereas we stay in the wings, maintaning secrecy. Protocol, v
@TheNormankingdom "The high office of the President has been used to foment a plot to destroy the American's freedom and before I leave office, I must inform the citizen of this plight."
@TheNormankingdom "Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an INVISIBLE GOVERNMENT owing NO allegiance and acknowledging NO responsibility to the people. To destroy this invisible government, to befoul this unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of today." PRESIDENT THEODORE ROOSEVELT, 1906
@TheNormankingdom 'I do not like the reappearance of The Jesuits ... If ever there was a body of men who merited damnation on earth and in hell, it is this society of Loyola's. Nevertheless, we are compelled by our system of religous toleration to offer them an asylum.' John Adams, 2nd President of the U.S.A
@Vandertoer - so if you don't believe the book was real, then it must be a lie? Perpetrated by the Jews, I presume? Wow - maybe you should write a book to tell the world! An idea for the title could be something like - "The Jews and their lies".
- Hitler was not Catholic, but it wouldn't matter. He actually preached a Christianity purged of "Jewish lies", a lot like your hero Martin Luther. Though I doubt he actually believed in it, just used it to sway masses of ignorant fools like you.
- Most religions claimed dominance over the others. This includes Catholicism, Protestantism, Islam, & Judaism. But have fun telling everyone why yours is different.
I wish we had a brave and good man like Paisley in the Netherlands. We have an Reformed political party (SGP), but they are cowardly and unreliable.
Our queen betrays her ancestors and the Netherlands, princess Maxima is a catholic and a disaster for our country.
The situation in Holland is very bad. Many "christian" people say that Luther was an anti-Semite, William the Silent a terrorist and William III gay and a dictator.
Martin Luther was no Antisemite, he had nothing against Judaism at all. In Martin Luther's Book "That Jesus was a born Jew" he wrote that the jewish people are the related of Jesus and so we should treat them with respect, he also canceled the "papal" order (4th lateran council, 1215) and allowed the jewish people to do every work they want to do.
But in his last years on Earth he wrote "About Jews and their lies" as a reaction to the deny of Jesus as Messias by Jews...
The Jews told such things like "Mary was a whore and Jesus a bastard..." and Martin Luther reacted as human with anger. Then he wrote rough things, such like:"chase them away these liars..." . The Antisemites and also the Nazis used these things to determine their anti-semitism, but the big diffrence is an Anti-Semite is against Jews in anyway, also against Jews who recognize Jesus as messias, Martin Luther just got aggresive by the Anti-Jesus attitute of the Jews.
You're right! It is a dirty lie that Luther hated the Jews. A lie, invented by the enemies of the Reformation. He only said: "We love the Jews, but they are pride and arrogant."
Its a pitty, but many people think that Luther was an Anti-Semite, but it is important to see it like it is and to tell the people the Truth. And its true that some statements of him were not nice but he has nothing to do with the cruelty of the Holocaust. The Nazis were not Christian at all, Hitler was a roman catholic, he was fascinated by the roman System, but he didnt cared about Jesus, and the Nazis had Hitler as their "messias". Nazi = Anti-Christ
But it was not good to write such an aggresive Book like "The Jews and their lies". God forgive that Martin Luther, he was just a Human and reacted like nearly every human, very emotional.
Martin Luther had the hope that the Reformation will also reach the Jews and that they recognize Jesus as their Messias. It is also written in the Bible (letters to the Romans 9-10) that there will come a time of it.
At the end of his time on earth, he realized that the most of the Jews are still in their hardening and that they dont support the Reformation and Jesus, some Jews did the opposite, they fought Jesus and his message. Too much for him.
But the roots of Anti-semitism is in the rise of Christianity as Roman state religion.
The roman catholic Church forced Jews to wear a yellow sign on the clothes, to wear a pointy hut(Jewhuts), and to do a bent down before Christians. In the 15th century, the Inquisitation persecuted the to christianity converted Jews, so called Marranos(trans.: Pigs). The law of „limpieza de sangre“(=purity of blood) was given, by rom.Catholics, a clear act of racism without religious reasons.
And until the Reformation, the situation of the Jews stayed very bad in Europe. The Reformer Martin Luther, for example, tried to cancel the restrictive laws(4th rom.cath. lateran council of 1215) concerning the Jews in Europe, to free them and to open their hearts for Jesus. God bless.
For example, the roman catholic Church and also the Nazis persecuted also already baptized Jews, "to keep the Blood pure".
But this sick kind of thinking has nothing to do with Christianity or Martin Luther. The Bible tells us "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus."
And Paul wrote: "As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes." Romans 11:28
And Martin Luther trusted in the Bible, he tried to live the holy scriptures, but you know, he was also just a human with emotions.
@jamestomson443 could you be more specific of what areas in both religions? ps I assume most protestants in NI belong to the church of england as they like the queen, not the church of scotland which is from a different flavour of protestanism. There are around 3 or 4 forms of catholicism one of which is RC there are many hundreds of protestant church denominations, with different theological beliefs of which 4 or 5 are the most numerically significant.
@CatFaceJay ian paisley made up his own religion. a religion more extrmeme and authoritarian than the roman catholic church. i dont consider him a protestant. his church is worse then the catholic church.
no, and you know it, the roman catholic church is a totalitary hierarchical system, the roman "Pope" is a dictator, the Nuns and Monks must change their names, have no free will, imprisoned 24 hours in a monastary, and must live in celibacy, also the priest must live in celibacy. The laymen are just animal-like in their eyes, no part of the roman catholic clergy. Not very human at all.
The roman catholic Church is an annoying Beast ;-)
Free the people, Free their Minds and Free their Souls.
Everyone who get caught in such a terrible organisation like the rc.Church, or the very simelar "Hare Krishna"-Movement or an other totalitary sects, is one too much.
And Jesus Christ came to Earth to free the People not to slave them. The Truth can make you free.
Really, Ian? Aren't you the one who said of the Republic of Ireland, "we are determined to fertilize the ground of Ulster with Protestant blood before we enter your priest-ridden banana republic"?
@thegenuineseer Their protest isn't motivated out of concern for the well-being of sexually abused children it's motivated out sectarian hatred of Roman Catholics. They're using the sexual abuse of children by Roman Catholic priests as an excuse to epress their hatred. I'll remind you that the children who're are abused are Roman Catholics themselves. Ian Paisley even once said Roman Catholics "breed like rabbits and multiply like vermin" it's as if he thought we were sub-human.
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I would love to walk up to him and say "Father would you please bless my rosary" lol
Efrasios 2 weeks ago
God save Ian Paisley
LoyalistScotland1991 1 month ago
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@LoyalistScotland1991 He'll be dead within the week and all the punishments of Hell will be there waiting to greet him!!!
Efrasios 2 weeks ago
@LoyalistScotland1991 god have mercy on your soul
MrSplashcakes 1 week ago
@MrSplashcakes same way you terroist loving cunt shame on you!!
ira= COWARDS
LoyalistScotland1991 6 days ago
What exactly is Mr. Paisley is supposed to say here, that's spiteful, bigoted or sectarian?
Must have missed it, but seems to this oul taig, that he's just asking some pertinent questions about the RC church's behaviour in investigating their own filthy corruption & abuse, and whether they should maybe be concentrating on that, rather than distractions like this visit to Protestant Scotland, (rather than face their victims in Catholic Ireland, maybe!)
DonegalRaymie201 1 month ago
After the English had finished their genocidal ethnic cleansing of the north of Ireland they had to move in many people from Scotland to live on and work the land. The thing most northerners are unaware of is many of these Scots planters came from blood lines going back to when Ireland Ruled much of Scotland under the Dal Riada a kingdom that influenced most of Scotland. In Fact this is why many Scots can still speak Gaelic. Also the term Scotti means Irishman. So Welcome home my Irish Brethren
MrIrishBilly 1 month ago
@MrIrishBilly
Eh up IrishBilly. What "English" genocide would that be then? Consider that the English haven't been in control of their country since 1066. When exactly did this happen?
HarryBodensson 5 days ago
@HarryBodensson
"What genocide" is right there have been so many.
Look up Cromwell "to hell or to Connaught" quote
Look up the the Irish Famine when uncountable amounts of people while living in the
most fertile country in Europe died of starvation and why the English shipped thousands
of extra troops to Ireland to maintain food exports.
as for "the English haven't been in control of their country since 1066"
What do you think the English or Angle population was replaced by the Normans?
MrIrishBilly 5 days ago
@MrIrishBilly
And your blaming that on the English? Watch my videos Billy. No the English population wasn't replaced(although three quarters was wiped out by 'em) however the ruling class from that day to this is Norman.
English working class soldiers were in Ireland for work if they didn't do as the Norman officers told them they lost their jobs and their famillies died.
At least blame the British protestant loving state NOT republican anti-unionist English people like myself.
HarryBodensson 5 days ago
@HarryBodensson
My question was rhetorical its is obvious they weren't replaced. What your stating
is like the Germans blaming WWII on the Nazi's and not the Germans it's idiotic
to do so.
You should look up a few quotes from queen Victoria at the time of the famine in Ireland
she believed the Irish were sub-humans,
As with most aggressive colonial powers you only know "your history". Ireland has hundreds of mass graves with 10's of thousands of unmarked graves.
MrIrishBilly 4 days ago
@MrIrishBilly
No because the Nazi's for the most part were led by the Germans and austrians or whatever however the British were led by the Normans maybe a few celts. The English were just soldiers.
And if you'd read my post you would realise that Queen Victoria is as English as you are Billy.
England is the only English colony. Colonized at the invitation of the Celtic kings of the time.
I never denied there was genocide in Ireland I'm questioning who you're blaming.
HarryBodensson 4 days ago
@HarryBodensson
The made slaves of hundreds of thousands of Irish in one incident alone they
they gathered up 30 thousand humans beings for slavery in Bermuda and Barbados. Many of these people suffered inhuman conditions abroad being hanged
at the whim of their owners.
MrIrishBilly 4 days ago
@MrIrishBilly
I suppose Trav Connelly was English too! Or maybe the Dutch are they English? Black chieftens sold slaves to europeans including the Irish. The reason some blacks have Irish names is because they were named after their masters.
Shaq O'neill?
HarryBodensson 4 days ago
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MrIrishBilly 4 days ago
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@HarryBodensson
America has had a long history of state legalized slavery going back to when it was an english colony.
History is always a grey thing in that i'm aware,but sometimes it is a black shameful thing and england has cast the darkest of black shadows over Ireland for too long.
MrIrishBilly 4 days ago
loooooooooooney
TheBhoycey 2 months ago
He is spot on about the Catholic Church
TheNormankingdom 2 months ago
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@TheNormankingdom This passage is taken from Umberto Eco's Foucault's Pendulum page 484 chapter 93
The only society known to us capable of rivaling us in these arts is that of the Jesuits. But we have succeeded in discrediting the Jesuits in the eyes of the stupid populace, because that society is an open organization, whereas we stay in the wings, maintaning secrecy. Protocol, v
countdumas 1 month ago
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@TheNormankingdom "The high office of the President has been used to foment a plot to destroy the American's freedom and before I leave office, I must inform the citizen of this plight."
~JFK
countdumas 1 month ago
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@TheNormankingdom "Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an INVISIBLE GOVERNMENT owing NO allegiance and acknowledging NO responsibility to the people. To destroy this invisible government, to befoul this unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of today." PRESIDENT THEODORE ROOSEVELT, 1906
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@TheNormankingdom 'I do not like the reappearance of The Jesuits ... If ever there was a body of men who merited damnation on earth and in hell, it is this society of Loyola's. Nevertheless, we are compelled by our system of religous toleration to offer them an asylum.' John Adams, 2nd President of the U.S.A
countdumas 1 month ago
What till this country becomes an islamic state , and it is comeing!
theblackmafia71 2 months ago
@Vandertoer - so if you don't believe the book was real, then it must be a lie? Perpetrated by the Jews, I presume? Wow - maybe you should write a book to tell the world! An idea for the title could be something like - "The Jews and their lies".
I guess the blind really are leading the blind!
Duffter 4 months ago
@jeshualivesforever
- Catholics ARE Christians.
- Hitler was not Catholic, but it wouldn't matter. He actually preached a Christianity purged of "Jewish lies", a lot like your hero Martin Luther. Though I doubt he actually believed in it, just used it to sway masses of ignorant fools like you.
- Most religions claimed dominance over the others. This includes Catholicism, Protestantism, Islam, & Judaism. But have fun telling everyone why yours is different.
Duffter 4 months ago
I wish we had a brave and good man like Paisley in the Netherlands. We have an Reformed political party (SGP), but they are cowardly and unreliable.
Our queen betrays her ancestors and the Netherlands, princess Maxima is a catholic and a disaster for our country.
The situation in Holland is very bad. Many "christian" people say that Luther was an anti-Semite, William the Silent a terrorist and William III gay and a dictator.
There are few honest people left.
Vandertoer 6 months ago
@Vandertoer
Martin Luther was no Antisemite, he had nothing against Judaism at all. In Martin Luther's Book "That Jesus was a born Jew" he wrote that the jewish people are the related of Jesus and so we should treat them with respect, he also canceled the "papal" order (4th lateran council, 1215) and allowed the jewish people to do every work they want to do.
But in his last years on Earth he wrote "About Jews and their lies" as a reaction to the deny of Jesus as Messias by Jews...
jeshualivesforever 5 months ago
@Vandertoer
The Jews told such things like "Mary was a whore and Jesus a bastard..." and Martin Luther reacted as human with anger. Then he wrote rough things, such like:"chase them away these liars..." . The Antisemites and also the Nazis used these things to determine their anti-semitism, but the big diffrence is an Anti-Semite is against Jews in anyway, also against Jews who recognize Jesus as messias, Martin Luther just got aggresive by the Anti-Jesus attitute of the Jews.
jeshualivesforever 5 months ago
@jeshualivesforever
You're right! It is a dirty lie that Luther hated the Jews. A lie, invented by the enemies of the Reformation. He only said: "We love the Jews, but they are pride and arrogant."
Vandertoer 5 months ago
@Vandertoer
Glad to hear that from you.
Its a pitty, but many people think that Luther was an Anti-Semite, but it is important to see it like it is and to tell the people the Truth. And its true that some statements of him were not nice but he has nothing to do with the cruelty of the Holocaust. The Nazis were not Christian at all, Hitler was a roman catholic, he was fascinated by the roman System, but he didnt cared about Jesus, and the Nazis had Hitler as their "messias". Nazi = Anti-Christ
jeshualivesforever 5 months ago
@Vandertoer
But it was not good to write such an aggresive Book like "The Jews and their lies". God forgive that Martin Luther, he was just a Human and reacted like nearly every human, very emotional.
jeshualivesforever 5 months ago
@jeshualivesforever
I don't even believe there is a book like "The Jews and their lies".
Vandertoer 5 months ago
@Vandertoer
As Protestant i dont want to go the way of cover-up and to deny the bad things like the roman catholics are doing it.
And so yes there is a book of Luther called: "Of the Jews and Their Lies", 1543. An emotional reaction to the rejection of Jesus as messias by Jews.
In the year 1523 Martin Luther published his Book "That Jesus was born a Jew". A book about the jewish roots of Christianity.
He had the hope that the Reformation will also reach the Jews and that they recognize Jesus
jeshualivesforever 4 months ago
Martin Luther had the hope that the Reformation will also reach the Jews and that they recognize Jesus as their Messias. It is also written in the Bible (letters to the Romans 9-10) that there will come a time of it.
At the end of his time on earth, he realized that the most of the Jews are still in their hardening and that they dont support the Reformation and Jesus, some Jews did the opposite, they fought Jesus and his message. Too much for him.
jeshualivesforever 4 months ago
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jeshualivesforever 4 months ago
@Vandertoer
But the roots of Anti-semitism is in the rise of Christianity as Roman state religion.
The roman catholic Church forced Jews to wear a yellow sign on the clothes, to wear a pointy hut(Jewhuts), and to do a bent down before Christians. In the 15th century, the Inquisitation persecuted the to christianity converted Jews, so called Marranos(trans.: Pigs). The law of „limpieza de sangre“(=purity of blood) was given, by rom.Catholics, a clear act of racism without religious reasons.
jeshualivesforever 4 months ago
And until the Reformation, the situation of the Jews stayed very bad in Europe. The Reformer Martin Luther, for example, tried to cancel the restrictive laws(4th rom.cath. lateran council of 1215) concerning the Jews in Europe, to free them and to open their hearts for Jesus. God bless.
jeshualivesforever 4 months ago
@Vandertoer
For example, the roman catholic Church and also the Nazis persecuted also already baptized Jews, "to keep the Blood pure".
But this sick kind of thinking has nothing to do with Christianity or Martin Luther. The Bible tells us "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus."
jeshualivesforever 5 months ago
@Vandertoer
And Paul wrote: "As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes." Romans 11:28
And Martin Luther trusted in the Bible, he tried to live the holy scriptures, but you know, he was also just a human with emotions.
jeshualivesforever 5 months ago
It is encouraging to see that people in Scotland and Northern Ireland still honor Luther and William III.
I love to watch the Orange March-videos.
I hope that the Dutch people will repent.
Vandertoer 6 months ago
@Vandertoer hopefully those people will move to the netherlands.
AnnoyingBeast 5 months ago
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Vandertoer 6 months ago
@jamestomson443 could you be more specific of what areas in both religions? ps I assume most protestants in NI belong to the church of england as they like the queen, not the church of scotland which is from a different flavour of protestanism. There are around 3 or 4 forms of catholicism one of which is RC there are many hundreds of protestant church denominations, with different theological beliefs of which 4 or 5 are the most numerically significant.
CatFaceJay 6 months ago
@CatFaceJay ian paisley made up his own religion. a religion more extrmeme and authoritarian than the roman catholic church. i dont consider him a protestant. his church is worse then the catholic church.
AnnoyingBeast 5 months ago
@AnnoyingBeast
no, and you know it, the roman catholic church is a totalitary hierarchical system, the roman "Pope" is a dictator, the Nuns and Monks must change their names, have no free will, imprisoned 24 hours in a monastary, and must live in celibacy, also the priest must live in celibacy. The laymen are just animal-like in their eyes, no part of the roman catholic clergy. Not very human at all.
jeshualivesforever 5 months ago
The roman catholic Church is an annoying Beast ;-)
Free the people, Free their Minds and Free their Souls.
Everyone who get caught in such a terrible organisation like the rc.Church, or the very simelar "Hare Krishna"-Movement or an other totalitary sects, is one too much.
And Jesus Christ came to Earth to free the People not to slave them. The Truth can make you free.
jeshualivesforever 5 months ago
1:11 "It's not for me to run down a country..."
Really, Ian? Aren't you the one who said of the Republic of Ireland, "we are determined to fertilize the ground of Ulster with Protestant blood before we enter your priest-ridden banana republic"?
padraic2001eire 7 months ago
i dont like him. i find him funny. he is a lunatic.
alastarter 8 months ago
Yes indeed Ian ! Let's expose the cover up of these peedo priests and fight for the whole truth to come out.
thegenuineseer 11 months ago
@thegenuineseer Their protest isn't motivated out of concern for the well-being of sexually abused children it's motivated out sectarian hatred of Roman Catholics. They're using the sexual abuse of children by Roman Catholic priests as an excuse to epress their hatred. I'll remind you that the children who're are abused are Roman Catholics themselves. Ian Paisley even once said Roman Catholics "breed like rabbits and multiply like vermin" it's as if he thought we were sub-human.
animegalc4 10 months ago
nutter.
peacefrog1916 1 year ago