Gay Marriage Debate in Ohio

[238wanderer]

I just which people would stop twisting and manipulatiing religion to justify their own hate, prejudice and discrimmination. Im gay and my mother raised me as a Catholic and in the bible it says God loves us all and created us in his image and he knows all. I believe thats true. WHY WOULD ANYONE CREATE SOMETHING THEY HATED, OR WOULD BECOME SOMETHING THEY WOULD HATE. ANSWER ME THAT!

[LifterWill]

In Europe, ALL unions are civil, before a legal magistrate. IF, after the LEGAL civil union is held, any couple; gay or straight, wants to be married by their clergy or otherwise, fine, but that is not the legal union recognized by the government. Like it or not, just as Blacks, and inter-racial couples finally recieved the legal right to be joined in matrimony, it WILL happen for LGBT people .. sooner than later.

[shockawenow]

As long as their are Christians...like me, it will never happen. Look up Leviticus 20:13 where it says God says its a sin. Gods laws trump mans opinion. I would be terrified to be a homosexual going into eternity...thats scary.

[goldgoku3264]

gays are just horny people... underneath it all. and besides... what if the whole world were gay... we would lose the war.

[JigsawMaster]

so you're saying straight people aren't horny? plus what does being gay have to do with war? if the whole world was gay, as you said, then that would include the other side of the war dude.

[8144519]

Christians are such asses.

[magicmax0]

Should gays be allowed to marry? I rest my judgement with god who says:

"you must not lie down with a male the same as you lie down with a woman. It is a detestable thing." — Leviticus 18:22

"God proceeded to build the rib that he had taken from the man into a woman... That is why a man will leave his father and his mother and he MUST stick to his WIFE and they MUST become one flesh." -Genisis 2:22-25

I rest my case, if anyone disagrees they can take it up with him.

[DuckAttackProduction]

I assume that that also means that you are against women in our society?

"And I want women to be modest in their appearance. They should wear decent and appropriate clothing and not draw attention to themselves by the way they fix their hair or by wearing GOLD or PEARLS or EXPENSIVE CLOTHES. -1 Timothy Chapter 2 Verse 9

[DuckAttackProduction]

Oh and I guess you are also against eating shellfish and shrimp.

"You may not eat marine animals that do not have both FINS and SCALES. You are to detest them, and they will always be forbidden to you. You must never eat their meat or even touch their dead bodies." -Leviticus Chapter 11 Verses 10-11

[JigsawMaster]

whatever happened to the old testament doesn't count argument?

[rockcrazyfan]

"Egg all over your face" HAHAHA! What an asshole!

Marriage is about procreation only? Really? Oh, come on!

Marriage is about LOVE!

Right now, orphanages are FULL! I think the world is pretty well populated right now!

And whoa! To defend the "sanctity" of his marriage he didn't use good examples comparing loving his wife with loving a dog or ice cream. I can't believe there're still people like this living in this century.

Egg all over HIS face. And again, WHAT an asshole!

[stabbedinthecunt]

yeah man the human race is an endangered species and everyone in the world is gonna become gay and they'll be none of us left. lol. these people have such retarded arguments.

[webe333]

that statment that marriage is not about love is BULLSHIT. marriage's only purpose is love. if your only marrying someone to have kids you are one seriously screwed up person.

[stabbedinthecunt]

Thank you.

[goldenkey12]

also, with that logic straight couples who can't procreate shouldn't be able to marry. Also couples who don't want kids shouldn't be allowed to get married either.

[lizvanrock]

Oh, he never said he loved his wife! Only ice cream and dogs, and two guys drinking buds together in the bar...

[destinoproductions]

if i could say one thing to mr. jesus hat:

"tolerance is different than acceptance, jesus hat. i don't give a crap if your kids accept it, but as an AMERICAN, if i want to marry a man, you bet your ass they damn well need to tolerate MY RIGHTS! just as i have to tolerate yours...i may not accept the fact you are allowed to even raise children, but i tolerate it."

america's divorce rate is over 50%. clearly, heterosexuals cherish family values and respect marriage. whatever.

[zanesvillebutterfly]

My partner and I both Believe theat there is a Higher Power in life and the constitution states that we are entitled to LIFE, LIBERTY AND THE PERSUIT OF HAPPINESS. We have children and we are together although this LAW as congerss calls it is in direct violation of tne Constitution.

[lunabell14]

marriage is about procreation...

so because my uncle and his wife have no children, their marriage is irrelevant?

Nice.

[philip0460]

What people don't understand is that there are 2 kinds of marriage: civil and religious. Gays are not asking to marry in church, they don't want religions to change their intolerance of gays. All they want is to get married by the GOVERNMENT which is and should never be connected to religion (i.e., separation of church and state).

[informatist]

So basically, the five main points that the guy in the Jesus cap has made are:

1) To him, marriage is not about love.

2) He values his wife, dog and ice cream at the same level.

3) 2 Guys having beer at a bar agree with him.

4) Christians have mucked up marriage themselves pretty badly.

5) While Bush didn't push the issue - the votes were somehow because people "woke up" to the idea.

With advocates like him, who needs to protest?

[Nateynate82]

Best comment ever.

Especially point number 2.

Love it.

[hotchocolate4855]

i think that when it comes to gay males, women are more accepting then men, and when it comes to lesbian women, men are more accepting.

how can you say marriage is not about love?

ughhh i live in ohio, and this is embarrasing.

=P

[vicariousfangs]

Change hurts this country. Were in a state of moral decay and its not due to staying the same.When does it stop? I should not have to accept your change that goes against everything I beleave and was tought. So whos mistreating who? I dont force my beliefs on you. But I have to accept you being a homosexual. No sorry, Not gonna Happen

[add454]

Change is a good thing. Society changes as time goes on, and staying with the same policies is a stupid idea because you can't keep one policy that works, because maybe it works just for a period of time while society is that way. i mean, fudalism worked for a few decades, but they didn't keep that. they made a change in order to fit the new accepting values of the evolving society.

[lizvanrock]

OOOO...just showed yer homophobe...look out for what scares you!

[Nateynate82]

Dear person,

Gay people are not forcing anything. If anything, you ARE forcing your beliefs by not letting gay people get married, standing behind religion. Gay people just want rights. No gay person is forcing you to accept anything, all we want is for you to stop being so ignorant and see us as people, not some scab on the side of our country.

[vicariousfangs]

I think gr8name1 exsplained it well. What I dont understand is why sexuality has become a discussion of race, Sexual preference does not make you eligable for rights. I believe no special rights for anyone. I cant believe how people have attacked the moral fiber of our country. We were founded on jewdao christian beliefs. Weather you like it or not it the way it is. So for those of you that want change , Whats next? I know lets not call this america anymore and rename it.

[ivandakine]

christianity is a religion, there are many beliefs and religions in the u.s. That is something the muslim nations do not understand with their 0 tolerance towards other beliefs and practices. constituion protects everybody. gays deserve the same rights as hetersexuals including marriage, they should be able to raise children like anyone else because they are like anyone else. Our country need to get out of the dark ages.

[injectedxoxo]

whether someone thinks its a sin or not, its really no one else's business if someone is gay or not. What ever happened to tolerance? God loves everyone? If ted kisses joe, are YOU a sinner?? if emily marries jessica is YOUR marriage less meaningful? Keep in mind, gluttony, envy, lust, greed, sloth, etc... are all sins. How many of you "anti gay" supporters havent are "clean"??

[ilikeguys09]

Ick, most of the people in that hick state look like that guy. lol To understand gay marriage, you would have to be gay, or know what marriage is really about which is love.

[gr8name1]

To understand gay marriage, you have to be gay? So following that line of reasoning, to understand murder, you have to be a murderer? To understand pedophile's, you must be one? To understand a heterosexual, you have to be one? What kind of logic is that? Must be that gooey, sentimental, slopy love you are talking about. If life is meaningless then all actions are meaningless. Yet we observe in life that there are laws that govern our existance.

[gr8name1]

Laws that govern our planet and the universe. There is meaning and purpose. Since the female creature has the reproductive role of birthing and the male of impregnating, there is no norm for homosexuality. Otherwise we would have gone extinct long ago. The Creators design still stands true today as ever before.

[gr8name1]

Male and female, God made them. Jesus reafirmed this model, in case any of you try to use the old, "Jesus never spoke against homosexuality", argument. He did not need to!! He reafirmed God's plan for humanity regarding companionship and sexual relationships and marriage.

[texaschickiv3]

Marriage IS about love,

you make it sound like marriage is a job

something that is expected of you

but love is the key to keeping a good marriage

why do u think there is divorces?

people don't get divorced because of their kids

[douseiai]

Marriage is not about kids or procreation anymore. If I told him about my friends grandmother who at 70 years old got married to a 74 year old he would have no problem with that... but according to his arguement they shouldn't be married cause they can't have kids.

[ChristianViewer08]

Marriage is about pro-creation. What else would it be for? Love? Earthly love dies when you die. The only true love is God's love and that doesn't disappear with earthly values. So creating life and introducing God's love to your children is indeed the purpose of marriage.

[lordchaos888]

Well, I personally don't think any Candidate should waffle on the gay marriage issue. Gay marriage is abhorrent. Homosexuals are abhorrent, and a blight on this Country; both men on men and women on women. Homosexuality is an abomination. God has not changed His views on this wicked and abominal practice, and all Homosexuals should be escorted out of our Nation, before God rains down fire and brimstone on us all. You can quote me, or even call me homophobic. I could care less.

[jeffg006]

Wow, I am a christian too, and I'd say Christ wouldn't be approving of the way your acting at all.

Of course, you do :p But that's the idiot's plight as always.

[boomac62]

Ok, settle down. i am a conservative Christian, born again and pro-life no less. And I believe gays should have the right to marriage, case closed.

[DarthVega7]

Then you don't read (or believe) the Bible then.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (NIV): "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters, nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."

Leviticus 18:22 (KJV): "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind it is abomination."

[jeffg006]

NIV version of the Bible is usually wrong or poorly translated - stick to a scholar's proper Bible :p

Leviticus says you must burn your house down if there is mold in it. It says if you work on the Sabbath you must be put to death. Oh yes, and you should burn a priests daughter if she is a whore.

Leviticus means all of these, or nothing 'rule wise' ;)

[jshweid]

My two cents: the legal rights and benefits should be available to gay couples, domestic partnership laws like the ones here in CA should be available nationwide. If a church deems it unholy and decides not to sanction the union, that is THEIR right.

[particle409]

It's a matter of taxpayer dollars and rights. You don't have to accept gay marriage. It's certainly not "forced" onto anybody.

If you want to make an argument about procreation, then make all the legal benefits about children, and not being married. Why should two people not be afforded the same tax breaks, that two others are?

[BelieveIt1051]

That guy is right. Two guys in the bar, never been to church at all, both will say marriage should only be between a man and a woman. The majority of America says no to the deathstyle know as homosexuality. MA started this mess, and Ohio fixed it for their state. God bless them. Gays are not being denied the right to marry, just the special right to redefine marriage to mean something it does not. Believe it!

[jeffg006]

That guy is nuts. Two guys in a bar are NOT the constitution for legal opinion. The majority of America seems uneducated, at least here in Canada we have the right ideals and give homosexuals the right of marriage.

Did this redefine marriage in Canada? NO. Stop being a paranoid bigot.

[mattslashdale]

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[jedwardjaunsy]

Great, he's an excellent speaker

[yomikey617]

Compared to Masasachusetts, Ohio is a cesspool of angry, ignorant, uneducated bigots. It's also a stagnant, polluted DUMP. I know first hand as I have lived in both states. Ohio's economy has slid backwards bigtime in the last 10-20 years, and Ohio is suffering a brain-drain like never before.

So what do Ohio voters do??? They bandwagon and attack the few gays who have stuck around Ohio.

Ay, O, Way To Go OHIO.

[DarthVega7]

I guess that makes most of the country uneducated bigots, and you are the better-than-the-rest-of-us supreme being eh? Take your snobby liberal elitism and move to Canada!

[SouthernMan40]

Information for those who think Massachusetts supports gay marriage. The people of Massachusetts has never supported gay marriage,although some residents may support gay rights. The est. 4.1 million registered voters never voted and supported homosexual marriage in Massachusetts! It was decided by the Massachusetts legislature not the registered voters. The majority of registered voters of Massachusetts DO NOT support gay marriage or believe there is such a thing.

[SouthernMan40]

Americans around the country & all news media outlets around the world need to know the truth,and be more specific. About how the registered voters in Massachusetts where denied the their rights. The majority of Human beings on planet earth don't believe & know there is such a thing as homosexual marriage.

[TheGeckoNinja]

heres the thing Christian people , your belief is your belief America is for everyone not for just you

you have no right to tell people how to live your religious views should not have any power over other peoples freedoms

if gays want to merry then they have the right to because you have no right to take away that right America is not founded on Christianity the founding fathers were atheist. so stop putting your religious views on others

[BeatBuddy]

This guy says that the legalization of gay marriage in Massachusetts made Ohio wake up. Wake up? It's because Massachusetts is WIDE AWAKE that gay marriage is legal. I say that Ohio still needs to wake up and take a look at what the gay issue is all about.

[filmbuff87]

marriage has nothing to do with procreation or raising future gernerations. you can have and children without being married. you can get married and decide to not have children. you can be single and adopt a child. marriage is about love and union of 2 ppl. not about procreation.

[reformedjames]

prove your assertion that marriage is not about children/procreation, proper scientific evidence please, not just another assertion based on your own personal opinion

[Nateynate82]

prove? Have you seen single mothers? Have you seen a couple who can't have kids? If not, why havn't you gone out of your house?

[MacWullie]

scientific evidence? What has filmbuff87 said that you can disagree with?

[kbedelen]

There is no reason why gays should not be aloud to marry. You can't help who you love. Honestly, why does it matter who you love? Does it truly affect you? The answer is, No. It doesn't. This guy in the video at the end has no clue what he is talking about. Marriage isn't just about procreation. Marriage is about committment to one another.

[sarraksartaj]

Sorry, but not all of them do those things. That's just a stereotype. Most gay people I know look and act like normal people, you would never recognise they were gay unless they told you.

So....what else have you got against 'em?

[IHyRaXI]

That they like to be with men over women.

[sarraksartaj]

Why do you give a shit what other people like? It has no impact on your life whatsoever.

[IHyRaXI]

Because humans are supposed to be with the opposite sex not the SAME! What, are you Gay?

[jeffg006]

So, humans are supposed to eat too. People starve, do I hate them?  Of course not.

What about hermits who live alone and never meet the opposite sex?

Clearly, you don't know much at all do you...

[MajinOtaku83]

What about women who are attracted to women? Any objections there?

[Nateynate82]

Humans are supposed to do a lot of things they aren't now.  After you're done making all the gay people 3rd class citizens, why not go after all the fat people... we all know that all they do is eat! IHyRaXI, you really should be educated.

[jeffg006]

50% of them dont :p (Lesbians, duh)

[danwo]

And to compare loving your lover and loving icecream,wtf?

[danwo]

If it wasn't for religious people in this country, this topic wouldn't be an issue.

[IHyRaXI]

I dont support Republicans but i do agree with Republicans that Being Gay is wrong and Fucked up and should be abolished. Sticking your penis in another Mans Anus-hole and getting Shit all over your dick is not right!

[sarraksartaj]

If you think being gay means sticking your penis up a man's ass, then you need some education.

[jeffg006]

hahahahhahaa

Well it happens in prison all the time. These men are mostly not homosexuals. If all homosexuals suddenly got their bags and all moved to Tahiti, there would still be guys screwing other guys up the butt.

So forget that point.

[Underdog263]

Information for those who think Massachusetts supports gay marriage. The people of Massachusetts has never supported gay marriage,although some residents may support gay rights. The est. 4.1 million registered voters never voted and supported gay marriage in Massachusetts! It was decided by the Massachusetts legislature. It may still go on a ballot in 2008 where the voters can decide to keep gay marriage legal in Massachusetts. Democrat who supports my Governor Deval Patrick

[spiritbyrd]

I believe that gay folks have the right to marry in a legal civil matter. Whether they are allowed to marry in a relgious manner is up to the individual church but marriage should be seperated religiously from the legal right. This shouldn't just be done for the gay marriage issue but for marriage in general. Oh by the way, I'm Christian and married to a woman.

[banryu942]

lol! this guy sounds like such a dumbass! if we were only meant to have children, why is it that we dont have the same brain as animals? or that we live so long, giving us opportunities to do other things besides having meaningless sex to ensure we dont go extinct? the earth is over-populated, anyway...

[evanhutch]

Nice, balanced clip- it's important to understand all viewpoints in advancing the issue.

[dangerousdan71]

your just reading your prejudice into this

[louvedelanuit357]

gay people have rights too and to take them away is discrimination. bush and fellows like him are making "this country under god" more important than promising "liberty and justice for all". i belive in gay rights.

[louvedelanuit357]

marriage is both a legal and religious thing. to deny ones right to get marrierd religiously is one thing, but to deny both that and just being legaly a couple is ridiculas. If it is a sin in religion to be gay then how does it affect other people? if thats how it is in religion let them sin themsleves, its their problem not yours. gay people should be able to get married, and belive it or not marrige is about love. and with gay people there is not alot of danger of confusing love with lust.

[stelltoots]

"Even though those that are "Christians" have made a mess out of marriage...we shouldn't make more of a mess and allows gays to marry?" Hmmm, at a reported 2% divorce rate in Massachusetts...sounds like those gays will bring the divorce rates down....Just FYI. Let them marry, it is only fair.

[mikeh68]

Egg all over your face...exactly. So please...shut up and sit down.

[sarraksartaj]

To say that the SOLE purpose of marriage is procreation/children is completely absurd. That would mean we must deny marriage to anyone who is unable to have children. A couple in their 80s. A couple that is infertile. A couple that cannot afford to raise children. Or what about a couple that simply doesn't WANT children? Does that mean they are sinning or somehow violating the sanctity of marriage? Should we negate their marriage then? People, pleez...

[ItalianDude88Returns]

i agree, *appauds*

[sarraksartaj]

Thanks. I just think this whole issue is being blown out of all proportion. There are more and more countries allowing gay marriage. Has gay marriage destroyed those countries? No. In every case, life went on as normal. Americans (especially Christians) need to stop being so dramatic about this issue and just get with the program.

[ItalianDude88Returns]

Yes you are right. It really Isn't a big deal. Gay marriage has been legal now for like 2 years nationwide, 4 years Ontario wide. Canada and Ontario are fine, nothing has changed. Oh except gay people have rights.

[sarraksartaj]

Exactly. It's a shame America is so far behind on this issue. I suppose we should be grateful they don't HANG homosexuals. At least that's better than nothing. :(

[IHyRaXI]

A good thing i realized about Muslim countries is theres NO Gay people, why cant America be like that?

[sarraksartaj]

It seems you are just trying to incite hatred here, so I won't bother...

[cosplayguru12]

well in texas you get kicked out of wall mart for making out with your partner in the middle of an ile but while we were walking out there were a straight couple making out. texas is like wamm no gays here and like when i came out to my friends one actualy spray painted my car it said "dyke" i dont really care but christians just make to big of a deal about it.

[MacWullie]

why would anyone want to make out in a Wallmart?

[MacWullie]

Why would anyone want to make out in a walmart?

[nper31]

that is discrimination