Zeitgeist - Part 3

[guineapiggyman]

and NOONE ever claimed that jesus was born on DEC 25th. even the vatican knows that!

[guineapiggyman]

the funny part is that none of this is actually true. it was all made up for this documentary.

[Zingy23]

some more research will tell us that the great egyptian school was corrupted and overtaken by powers intent on keeping the knowledge only among the secret group and spreading mass disinformation to the rest. They literally changed the teaching prior from their true predecessors to inflict confusion on the masses. So now we take the disinformation as truth?

[jeffreygebbin]

Crucifixion happened in these times so numberous times that I dont see why his crucifixion is so important. Anyway every tribe out there that existed in these times used to look at the stars while we now in real life never look at the stars only if you learned for it. Astrology was the most important thing in these times. No one can deny that. But people still do. I think that religion is based on astrology. And thats my religion.

[eagleeye2102]

/watch?v=XbFbJrr1-bY&feature=f­eedf

Still believe in Zeitgeist?

[midnightjoker23]

Please tell people about this video.  Share it on Facebook. E-mail it to all your contacts. Watch it again. The Revolution is now............

[champ23100]

great video

[Dinky915]

For most who's heads are up their religious rears, this type of interpretation of the biblical fairy story is indeed horrifying. For the ignoramus, please be informed that astrology is the oldest religion in the world, and the newer religions, a re-packaging of the ancient archetypes and symbolism. It hurts to know God never was, does it not? Or is he still patrolling the clouds?

[jacobraymond1993]

@Dinky915 honestly your so ignorent, youd probably marry a duck if someone told you to.Astrology?really.how is that a religion when the suffix -ology means "the study of"...thats like saying phycology is a religion...

p.s. jusst stop your dumbness.

GO LAKERS!

[SexyGuitarLover]

@Dinky915

I completely agree. Aside from one thing. I do actually beleive that there is a god, but tht god has nothing to do with any religion that humans have made up with their selfish perception. God is right here for everyone, "God" is not tied to any religion, people tie god to a religion of their choice.

[mikeset116]

Krishna wasnt crucified

[eagleeye2102]

@mikeset116 /watch?v=XbFbJrr1-bY&feature=f­eedf

[loombaron]

According to Wikipedia, HORUS was depicted as a falcon-headed man wearing the pschent, or a red and white crown, as a symbol of kingship over the entire kingdom of Egypt.

The god you see at 0:00 is RA who has the head of a falcon and the sun-disk of Wadjet resting on his head.

[rex1yujie]

THIS video is FULL of BULLSHIT

Krisha was born on either 18 or 21 July 3233 BCE and was the eight son born to the princess Devaki, and her husband Vasudeva.

Attis born of Nana who was a daughter of the river-god Sangarius who placed a almond seed on her bosom. Date of birth unknown

Horus was born to the goddess Isis, conceived through the union of her and Osiris after Osiris was resurrected by Isis.

The list of names provided after the few examples cant even be traced for origin story

[martynblackburn1977]

@rex1yujie But Krishna was born without earthly father, instead like Jesus and Horus taking a stepfather, Like Jesus and Horus, Krishna was divine, with Krishna being an incarnation of the supreme Lord, Vishnu, as Jesus was and is God, as they say, and Horus was the incarnation of Osiris.

[rex1yujie]

@martynblackburn1977 Hum no. It is quite clear that the original Egyptian myths say Horus is Osiris's son. Krisha origin story depends on which story of Krisha u follow. One popular one is Krisha was the eight son of princess Devaki, and her husband Vasudeva.The much less known one says Krisha was born of hairs from the head of Vishnu which that god placed in Devaki's womb. Hairs does not equal the Spirit. Also Krisha is the 8th incarnation. Not the first and only incarnation of God like Jesus.

[martynblackburn1977]

@rex1yujie Horus is indeed the son of Osiris; I have not contested that.

There are different versions of the Krishna birth myth. I have not contested that either. I'm not sure why you think it necessary to compare Krishna having been born due to the hair being placed in his mother's womb with the Holy Spirit viz Jesus being born of the Spirit, unless you forgot that the hair was placed there by the supreme God Vishnu. In which case the divine birth of Krishna seems quite plausible.

[rex1yujie]

@martynblackburn1977 look, all i am trying to show is that Jesus and Krishna aren't the same. There may be some similarities but to say one is the copy of another is wrong. I guess i just want people to realize that not all of the info provided in this video is factual or true. I hope people will do their own research before judging Christians. U can put ur faith in what ever u like, but pliz do not bear false witness and slander a religions with false info.

[martynblackburn1977]

@rex1yujie They are the same in so far as the similarities show. Of course, Jesus is not a complete copy of any one god; he is a syncretism of many gods. He is the product of a process of religious syncretism like those other gods Serapis and whathaveyou. The difference is the Jewish persona of Jesus and his full anthropomorphism, and the fact that the early Christians, unlike the pagans, could link themselves to Judaism.

[rex1yujie]

@martynblackburn1977 Jesus is unique. The very fact that Christians believe in only One God should immediately set it apart from the pagan religions. The out right lies this video provides to try connect Jesus to other pagan deities just goes to show how desperate zeitgeist was to show any connection. I deem certain minor similarities as mere coincidences due to the sheer number of deities stories in the world.

[rex1yujie]

@martynblackburn1977 Also Jesus provide salvation through faith, He is God and provides the only way to life. Salvation is grace i.e. the gift of God. All the pagan religions call for justification through works, the after life is not given as a gift. I think that is a pretty big difference between Christianity and Pagan religions.

[martynblackburn1977]

@rex1yujie Jesus called for action not faith. The message of Jesus was that he taught acts not faith. Faith is Catholicism.

[rex1yujie]

@martynblackburn1977 lol u actually have it backwards. Justification through faith was recovered though the protestants. As for Jesus's teaching on salvation through faith, here are some verses. read them and decide for ur self. John 3:16,John 1:12,John 14:6,Romans 6:23, Acts 13:38-39. etc.

[martynblackburn1977]

@rex1yujie No No. The Gospels teach us to act not to have faith. Acts of the Apostles was written by second century authors. The Johannine tradition is a spiritual gospel of the aporcryphal tradition. But the saviour of the Gospels most definately taught right action. Faith is Catholic speak. It is the detritus of Catholic teachings.

[rex1yujie]

@martynblackburn1977 The gospels do teach us to have faith in God. In fact for many of the people who had miracles performed on them by Jesus were healed because of faith. Here are verses from Luke, Matthew and Mark that show importance of Faith in God: Matt 10:19-20,Matt 14:28-3,Mark 9:24,Luke 22:32,Mark 9:29. justification and salvation by faith is nothing new, u can find them in all books of the bible.

[martynblackburn1977]

@rex1yujie But the saviour taught acts. Faith is associated with the emerging church, the Catholic Church, the Ecclesiastical dogmas, the whole apostolary of the Christian religion. Faith is precisely the negation of Christianity for the saviour taught action and being, not a new faith but a new state of being. That is why Christians have fallen because they have taken the dogmas and the teachings of the saviour together. "I like you christ, but not your Christians" - Gandhi.

[rex1yujie]

@martynblackburn1977 u have completely misunderstood the gospels, Christ and Christianity in general. Jesus is the son of God, He taught faith in God and salvation as a result of faith in God. If u actually read the gospels and the books of the bible this becomes quite clear. Jesus's death removed the need for animal sacrifices and the offerings related to it. peace with God and Justification came with just believing He is the messiah, the Son of God and lamb offering for ur sins.

[martynblackburn1977]

@rex1yujie Salvation is through acts and acts alone; salvation through faith is Mithraism and all those other pagan religions. Those who do not believe in Mithras go to hell. Salvation through fiath is a Church doctrine but acts will get you salvation.

[rex1yujie]

@martynblackburn1977 =.= u have no idea what pagan religions require or what Christianity is. Quit pulling shit out of ur ass.

[randyds5]

@rex1yujie just because it was written in a book doesnt make it legit.



[rex1yujie]

@randyds5 thats why u consult multiple sources and research the authenticity of the books. If u look at the sources for this movie u will soon find out that most of the stuff this movie reports comes from 2 book sources by authors that have been proven by the literature scholars community to be unreliable.

[Zaninana]

The point is that all paths lead to the same destination!

[2Durr]

yOU CAN NOT PUT RELIGONS LIKE THIS THIS TOGHETER.

YOU HAVE TO NEED CONFIRMATION OF EACH PROFET OF EACH RELIGON.

THIS IS TO BRAINWASH YOUR ASS.

[samtheman2477]

be very carefull when trying to explain this to someone who has spent their entire life devoted to a certain idiology. no matter how many facts you present, they will not accept it. its like the matrix movie

[drewdonham]

this video is full of inaccuracies, which make this guy..... a cock sucker. dont watch this bullshit. what kind of jerk off purposely puts wrong information into a video to prove an actual decent point that other religions are similar and may have the same idea of a chist.

[bruizez]

the whole premise of this video is that christianity is an amalgamation of chirstianity with pagan religions of old. ogma was set by the ROMAN church which prior was a pagan nation... is well known that after conquest of a nation the new rulers would take on or give a deitiy that closely resembled a deity of their newly added territory so that the conquested ppl would assimilate more easily to their conquerors

[alosan21]

totally bull. even wikipedia can tell you no one of this gods was born on dec 25th, etc etc. If you search a bit more youll find out this is totally inacurate.

[pistolpete667]

@alosan21 no shit youre using wikipedia not a reliable source. this involves deeper research than encyclopedia entries

[tomski3]

So it's all astrology, well I'll be damned.

[UglyAmerican0374]

The reference to Pisces is also inaccurate. The fish symbol has absolutely nothing to do with astronomy or any reference to "fish" in the Bible for that matter. It's called the Ichthys (ΙΧΘΥΣ), the Greek word for fish. It's an acronym used by early Christians to identify each other while avoiding persecution from the Roman government. I = Iesous = Jesus, X = Christos = anointed, Θ = Theou = God, Υ = Huios = Son, Σ = Soter = Savior. "Jesus Christ, the son of God, our Savior."

[UglyAmerican0374]

The "Three Kings" is also an inaccuracy. The New Testament does not state the exact number of kings or wise men. The wise men of the east they refer to in the Bible were nomadic tribes of Persians called Magi and often traveled together in large groups (sometimes in the hundreds). According to the New Testament; they adorned Jesus with gifts of gold, frankincense, and myrrh. Later interpretations simply led to the conclusion of: three gifts = three wise men.

[UglyAmerican0374]

The correlations sited by the film are inaccurate. The New Testament does not provide a specific date for the birth of Christ. In fact, early Christians did not celebrate Christmas and denounced the idea as many considered it sinful or pagan. However, centuries later, Christian priests and emperors decided upon a Christmas celebration that would coincide with the winter solstice and its many pagan and secular festivals in an effort to convert Romans.

[mtlfinest123]

lol this is complicated