OLD EXPRESS CONTOL PANEL WITH A NEW ELECTRONIC FLOOR SELECTOR,VERY DANGEROUS TO WORK ON AS IF YOU TOUCH ANYTHING INSIDE THE PANEL YOU WILL GET A SHOCK/ELECTOCUTED.
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Awesome! It's another example of older technology being simpler and outlasting today's modern and over-complicated cheap rubbish! I don't think today's electronic ones would last over 30 years and still work fine??
In 1978, when I was still a kid, I got to go up in a building while it was still under construction and got to see the elevator equipment with the controller in operation. Since the elevator was being hand-operated, the selector was not yet hooked up with the tape is attatached to the car and weight and would spool over the wheel and and make the selector move up and down when the car does thus tracking.
In the house where I grew up there is a 50 years old system still in use and it has a mechanical method to tell in which direction the motor has to turn depending on the current floor and the desired floor. I have pics on my flickr account, message me if you want the specific urls.
This is an old express two speed a.c. lift, the old floor selector has been replaced with an electronic type, really good old lift, express were a great old English lift company from Northampton, taken over by Otis, sadly the express name has gone {i've been a lift engineer for 35 years}
The thing is, that it is -too- reliable, as like most old electronics. We had a old Nordmende Colour TV Set, which lasted over 25 only with one new line transformator, as like one dishwasher from 1982, which still works. -That- is -quality- and, i´m sorry, but quality is not any longer the interest of the manufacturers.
VFD system is more efficient and the smoother control gives a much nicer ride and provides smoother start. They're both important, because kVA demand as well as energy usage both cost money.
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This was fairly realistic as lift movies go, of course the lift fell at the end, but nothing blew up at the end (like US movies) and attention to detail was good.
I think it was a French movie that was dubbed into English.
Was 'the lift' the one where the bank robbert went wrong when... (continues)
...they got stuck with other passengers in the lift, or the one when circuit boards (with lights!) started appearing and start taking over the 3 lifts - then the cables came alive and hung that bloke at the bend (that movie was crap!)
May be I will post a few clips of 'out of order' on youtube if anyone is interested?
@mrmattandmrchay There were no bank robbers in "The Lift" or the "The Shaft". I think "The Lift" was a German film as the elevator repair van and newspapers were in German but it was dubbed in English. The Shaft, I believe is French but it's set in New York City but basically it's a remake of "The Lift". I believe it's called Le Asensur.
@mrmattandmrchay I saw the movie "Out Of Order" and it was very similar to a 1974 movie called "The Elevator". In OOO, there is someone who robs someone in the building and makes his getaway in the elevator that.... of course, get's stuck. That happened in "The Elevator". The building was closed for the night or weekend, same in the 1974 movie. At the end the lift crashed, same in T.E. ""but nothing blew up....(like US movies). Nothing blew up (like TODAY'S US movies) when the elevator car
The lift motor room i have in mind (in the 11 floor hotel i work in), has absolutely no safety equipment, no guards for the motor flywheel nor the main cable wheels etc!
There are 3 lift motors up there, 2 being completely electronic and smooth, and the other (being the service lift) looks similar in this vid. Should make for a good comparison and a good vid overall :)
Wow! I may have access to an even older one that this!, its has about 20 rows of smaller switches for the car positioning\ point tripping) about 80 or so in total to service 11 floors)
And then there's the big contactors for each motor direction, doors and brakes but its only the motor contactors that make a huge spark (about 7-15mm of spark!!).
As this stuff fascinates me too, there will be a vid from me up shortly :)
I look forward to your video! I only hope that it will be recorded at a decent quality, because an amazing number of these elevator videos appear to be done with poor-quality mobile phone cameras, which is a big shame. =/
:) Will try my best, gonna be a couple of weeks tho. Since as you have said about the crappy camcorders. I have a crappy camcorder :S So i'll have to buy a new one.
I am the head concierge at the hotel, i have a single master key that opens 260+ doors :) including the lift motor room :D
Well I use a camcorder (Sony DCR-TRV270E), although it's a pretty old design now (uses those bulky Digital-8 tapes), although it is still a decent machine - stereo, 720x576 video resolution (with 40x optical/990x digital zoom) and pretty good night-vision. I do recommend you check out pixmania dot com. They sell this kind of stuff brand new at decent prices. ;)
Its funny you say that sometimes when I'm troubleshooting old controllers I will turn the lights off. I must ask why are you guys fooling around with an elevator controller?
The person who I (the person behind the camcorder) am talking to, is a maintenance engineer (I believe that's the correct title...?) who works at the building, and showed me around the place. I found this motor room especially interesting, so I decided to upload just this part. ;)
I removed an old water hydraulic goods lift out of the strand palace hotel, comletewith the old pop fart plasma rectifier panel and replaced it for a bright shiny new skg goods lift to take the dustbins up to the road level, only problem was after i fitted it they found the bins were too big to go in it...lolololol...i left it with otis to sort out....lololololol....next time take a tape measure wiv ya....lolololol
Sounds as bad as the railway when l was on it-they ordered all these plastic crappy new trains and then realised the power supply wouldn't cope!What a bunch of t*****s!
Why didnt you go all the way and shove them contactors in with yer fingers...lolololol...intresting video but ill give you a price to get shut of the old crappycarbon contact rubbish...
The PCB replaces the old type floor selector from Express Lifts (had an up/down solenoid which pulled a platform up and down a carriage). Would love to see one of them. I videoed one ages ago but accidently recorded over it!
HOLD THE DAMN CAMERA STILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
pomonabill220 2 months ago
Great components!
You can easily inspect and fix them, and you need not replace the entire contactor if a contact fails.
electrovlog 5 months ago
@andel74 Can you video it and put it up here?
danielrichardbond 8 months ago
definately an express controller, i remember the old contacts,
express777100 9 months ago
This control unit is powered by the Zilog Z80 microprocessor, same as the C-64 homecomputer.
mrcelica4589 11 months ago
OLD EXPRESS CONTOL PANEL WITH A NEW ELECTRONIC FLOOR SELECTOR,VERY DANGEROUS TO WORK ON AS IF YOU TOUCH ANYTHING INSIDE THE PANEL YOU WILL GET A SHOCK/ELECTOCUTED.
johnnv11 11 months ago
i inspect a lift with an arc rectifier (google it) still in use, its from the 1930's!!
andel74 11 months ago
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hungarylnnjsd 1 year ago
Amazing
Vanishbug 1 year ago
FABULOUS!!!!!
michelinman8592 1 year ago
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michelinman8592 1 year ago
Awesome! It's another example of older technology being simpler and outlasting today's modern and over-complicated cheap rubbish! I don't think today's electronic ones would last over 30 years and still work fine??
Turbolad995 1 year ago
Wow, those relays are entertaining.
cenzo188 1 year ago
In 1978, when I was still a kid, I got to go up in a building while it was still under construction and got to see the elevator equipment with the controller in operation. Since the elevator was being hand-operated, the selector was not yet hooked up with the tape is attatached to the car and weight and would spool over the wheel and and make the selector move up and down when the car does thus tracking.
NEXPAR 1 year ago
30 years is not old for an elevator.
douro20 1 year ago
In the house where I grew up there is a 50 years old system still in use and it has a mechanical method to tell in which direction the motor has to turn depending on the current floor and the desired floor. I have pics on my flickr account, message me if you want the specific urls.
Tambako 2 years ago
Wow, nearly 15'000 views! What's you secret!! I only get about 500 max on mine!
mrmattandmrchay 2 years ago
This is an old express two speed a.c. lift, the old floor selector has been replaced with an electronic type, really good old lift, express were a great old English lift company from Northampton, taken over by Otis, sadly the express name has gone {i've been a lift engineer for 35 years}
willowinone 2 years ago
I saw nearly the same type of control of the German company "Haushahn", guess around 1974.
TheMCMXXL 2 years ago
I could immediately tell you're in Europe from the 100Hz hum. It sounds distinctively different from our 120Hz hum in North America.
UrbexNW 2 years ago
just to let you know, its actually 50 and 60, but i can see how you would think its 100 and 120, because its double XD
steeeven1 2 years ago
Pop,bang,flash,click,clunk.The way electrics should be.And far more dependable than the electronic crap made now.
AG3304 2 years ago 8
AGREED
marsamprepair 2 years ago
The thing is, that it is -too- reliable, as like most old electronics. We had a old Nordmende Colour TV Set, which lasted over 25 only with one new line transformator, as like one dishwasher from 1982, which still works. -That- is -quality- and, i´m sorry, but quality is not any longer the interest of the manufacturers.
stef546 2 years ago
Yup-they want you to bin it and buy another.Who cares about the mountains of rubbish they then moan about having to get shot of!
AG3304 2 years ago
AGREE!
Elhombresombra 1 year ago
Esatto!!!! (I agree)
figamarsa 2 years ago
They just don't get it,do they?!
AG3304 2 years ago
nowdays they only want to make things small..
pahvi67 2 years ago
Small,too complicated,and if possible,to use more juice to do the same job.
AG3304 2 years ago
VFD system is more efficient and the smoother control gives a much nicer ride and provides smoother start. They're both important, because kVA demand as well as energy usage both cost money.
UrbexNW 2 years ago
Yes, DEFINITELY!
Elhombresombra 1 year ago
WOW!!! I never would have thought all that is in an (old) elevator control room..
I almost feel like screaming...
IT"S ALIVE!!!!
lol.. This was cool..
And really interesting .)
Thanks for the post
orangie84 2 years ago
I see a hell of a lot "Asbestos Warning" stickers in there :P But its still great to work on this kind of old equipment.
DutchFord86 3 years ago
zajebisty filmik
djkwas88 3 years ago
gotta love the sounds of the relays
Rbnqss 3 years ago 5
A lot of asbestose there !!!
nesnul 3 years ago
This is all done by PLC now.. I had to work on one in a hospital from the 40's BAD DEAL... Very nice video.
isaacu 3 years ago
Have you ever seen the movie "The lift"? Now THAT was a bad ass ellevator!
BarneySaysHi 3 years ago
I prefered 'out of order'...
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This was fairly realistic as lift movies go, of course the lift fell at the end, but nothing blew up at the end (like US movies) and attention to detail was good.
I think it was a French movie that was dubbed into English.
Was 'the lift' the one where the bank robbert went wrong when... (continues)
mrmattandmrchay 2 years ago
...they got stuck with other passengers in the lift, or the one when circuit boards (with lights!) started appearing and start taking over the 3 lifts - then the cables came alive and hung that bloke at the bend (that movie was crap!)
May be I will post a few clips of 'out of order' on youtube if anyone is interested?
mrmattandmrchay 2 years ago
It was the latter. It is a Dutch movie with a script that has more holes in it than a Swiss cheese but it was spooky.
BarneySaysHi 2 years ago
@mrmattandmrchay There were no bank robbers in "The Lift" or the "The Shaft". I think "The Lift" was a German film as the elevator repair van and newspapers were in German but it was dubbed in English. The Shaft, I believe is French but it's set in New York City but basically it's a remake of "The Lift". I believe it's called Le Asensur.
NEXPAR 1 year ago
@mrmattandmrchay I saw the movie "Out Of Order" and it was very similar to a 1974 movie called "The Elevator". In OOO, there is someone who robs someone in the building and makes his getaway in the elevator that.... of course, get's stuck. That happened in "The Elevator". The building was closed for the night or weekend, same in the 1974 movie. At the end the lift crashed, same in T.E. ""but nothing blew up....(like US movies). Nothing blew up (like TODAY'S US movies) when the elevator car
NEXPAR 1 year ago
crashed.
NEXPAR 1 year ago
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mrmattandmrchay 2 years ago
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mrmattandmrchay 2 years ago
Ahh, i still like your video ;) just watched it again . . . twice ;p.
Shame i can't find any 'good' help like you had eh :P:P
produKtNZ 3 years ago
I will
peugteobike 3 years ago
I got badly shocked when working on an elevator.that was from the 40s or 50s model
peugteobike 3 years ago
Take care next time
GinoRc 3 years ago 4
nice old express
skunkatoras 3 years ago
Fascinating, thanks for uploading this!
I'm glad I'm not the only person who has an interest in elevators/lifts... :)
Splatzone 3 years ago
The lift motor room i have in mind (in the 11 floor hotel i work in), has absolutely no safety equipment, no guards for the motor flywheel nor the main cable wheels etc!
There are 3 lift motors up there, 2 being completely electronic and smooth, and the other (being the service lift) looks similar in this vid. Should make for a good comparison and a good vid overall :)
produKtNZ 3 years ago
Wow! I may have access to an even older one that this!, its has about 20 rows of smaller switches for the car positioning\ point tripping) about 80 or so in total to service 11 floors)
And then there's the big contactors for each motor direction, doors and brakes but its only the motor contactors that make a huge spark (about 7-15mm of spark!!).
As this stuff fascinates me too, there will be a vid from me up shortly :)
produKtNZ 3 years ago 2
That sounds awesome! =D
I look forward to your video! I only hope that it will be recorded at a decent quality, because an amazing number of these elevator videos appear to be done with poor-quality mobile phone cameras, which is a big shame. =/
SomethingUnreal 3 years ago
:) Will try my best, gonna be a couple of weeks tho. Since as you have said about the crappy camcorders. I have a crappy camcorder :S So i'll have to buy a new one.
I am the head concierge at the hotel, i have a single master key that opens 260+ doors :) including the lift motor room :D
produKtNZ 3 years ago
Good luck. =) I still look forward to it.
To be honest, any camcorder should be better than a phone's built-in 'after-thought' camera. ;)
SomethingUnreal 3 years ago
lol yea. but i do want something decent to record with... Any ideas?
produKtNZ 3 years ago
Well I use a camcorder (Sony DCR-TRV270E), although it's a pretty old design now (uses those bulky Digital-8 tapes), although it is still a decent machine - stereo, 720x576 video resolution (with 40x optical/990x digital zoom) and pretty good night-vision. I do recommend you check out pixmania dot com. They sell this kind of stuff brand new at decent prices. ;)
SomethingUnreal 3 years ago
Its funny you say that sometimes when I'm troubleshooting old controllers I will turn the lights off. I must ask why are you guys fooling around with an elevator controller?
elev8trman 3 years ago
The person who I (the person behind the camcorder) am talking to, is a maintenance engineer (I believe that's the correct title...?) who works at the building, and showed me around the place. I found this motor room especially interesting, so I decided to upload just this part. ;)
SomethingUnreal 3 years ago
Wow, thats cool how you got to have a look at that, thanks for showing that. ^^
DevotedAnimeSharer 3 years ago
that's really cool, I love listening to those things run.
Rymac91 3 years ago
hey, what building was that??? I'll get in there and get some night footage and see if it lights up.
Darren
darrenjohnwatson 3 years ago
I removed an old water hydraulic goods lift out of the strand palace hotel, comletewith the old pop fart plasma rectifier panel and replaced it for a bright shiny new skg goods lift to take the dustbins up to the road level, only problem was after i fitted it they found the bins were too big to go in it...lolololol...i left it with otis to sort out....lololololol....next time take a tape measure wiv ya....lolololol
johnnyrottenwigan 4 years ago
It aint Shiny anymore and it stinks! Nearly fell off a ladder on the pavement while checking the controller. Won't be doing that again =D Thanks!!!!
Rizzbriff 3 years ago
The lift aint shiny anymore and it stinks. Nearly fell off a ladder on the pavement accessing the controller. Wont be doing that again. Thanks!! =D
Rizzbriff 3 years ago
Sounds as bad as the railway when l was on it-they ordered all these plastic crappy new trains and then realised the power supply wouldn't cope!What a bunch of t*****s!
AG3304 2 years ago
Why didnt you go all the way and shove them contactors in with yer fingers...lolololol...intresting video but ill give you a price to get shut of the old crappycarbon contact rubbish...
johnnyrottenwigan 4 years ago
Maybe I won't get THAT close =/
SomethingUnreal 4 years ago
50 hz?
ryan29073 4 years ago
Yep - It's in the UK. ;)
SomethingUnreal 4 years ago
I like to watch My 1967 model in total darkness.
Ocalaspank 4 years ago
How can you watch it in total darkness?
What 1967 model? Your profile shows nothing.
Does your comment have anything to do with anything?
SomethingUnreal 4 years ago
Very interesting. That's a lot of contactors!
Old technology is always fascinating.
mysterymeatgrinder 4 years ago 3
heh,thats nearly new :)
farkkis 4 years ago
Well, there are 2 newer parts in it. That board with the column of LEDs, and another board which I didn't get in view, which is for the speech.
But I can see how this is new compared to one you saw from 1928 ;)
SomethingUnreal 4 years ago
The PCB replaces the old type floor selector from Express Lifts (had an up/down solenoid which pulled a platform up and down a carriage). Would love to see one of them. I videoed one ages ago but accidently recorded over it!
ctxcolormonitor69 4 years ago
nice video!!!!
doraipeich 4 years ago