Fall of Eagles: Lenin and Trotsky in London

[TheCharacterActor]

Sorry, let me rephrase what I said ealier. Stalin had photographs of himself altered to his means and orchestrated propaganda. I am now trying to be more precise about what I have read and what I've learned in school. Now you tell me everthing you know and I WILL LISTEN!!!.

[TheCharacterActor]

@TheCharacterActor , , , , , ,I rest my case.

[StimulatedMindz]

@TheCharacterActor I wouldn't worry this Marcel guy has no clue what he's talking about.

[TheCharacterActor]

@StimulatedMindz Thank you stimulatedmindz. I never claim to know far more than everyone else.

[LiberalJerseyman]

Lenin with a British accent is just wrong. 

[PaxAmericana24]

"Ensign, lay in a course for Communism. Maximum Warp...Engage."

[czarpeppers]

"So shall we take the winter palace?"

"Make it so!"

[andmaketherain]

Only the British can play being Europeans. Couldn't they?

[Moskau43]

The revolution, Make it so.

[czarpeppers]

@Moskau43 Fuck, so much for me being the first. 

[Lytton333]

Live long and prosper..

But only under a private (USS) Enterprise bourgeois capatalist ideology.. comrade..

[TheCharacterActor]

Things could have been a lot different if Stalin did not steel everything from Lenin and Trotsky.

[andresc13193]

@TheCharacterActor lulz. you obviously dont know anything about the October revolution or Stalin

[TheCharacterActor]

@andresc13193 OY!!!!!!!

[TheCharacterActor]

@andresc13193 Either my history teachers were wrong or I was not fully informed. You tell me what you know about the revolution and Stalin and I WILL listen to you.

[TheCharacterActor]

@andresc13193 I rest my case.

[einXtein]

@TheCharacterActor Ha ha.

[marcelthemaoist]

@TheCharacterActor Stalin didn't "steal" anything, he was simply supported by the majority of the party including Trotsky. Read history before you say such stupid things.

[TheCharacterActor]

@marcelthemaoist I said I was willing to listen to anyone who can prove me wrong.

[marcelthemaoist]

@TheCharacterActor Stalin offered to resign twice when the "Lenin testament" came out (even though there is a lot of reasons to discredit those letters). Everyone, including Trotsky, refused his resignation.

[TheCharacterActor]

@marcelthemaoist You and I also know Stalin fabricated most of his recorded history during his reign. Am I wrong?

[marcelthemaoist]

@TheCharacterActor You are wrong, What history books are you reading? Have you ever even read anything by Stalin or Trotsky?

[StimulatedMindz]

@marcelthemaoist Trotsky was the hero of the revolution as he organized the coup which took power in October. Stalin was a non-player. But upon accumulating power as Gensek, he gradually reduced Trotsky's role in the October Revolution, placing himself as the hero alongside Lenin. Try watching 'October: Ten Days Which Shook the World' and see how only 11 years later, Trotsky is transformed from the central organizer, to the only Bolshevik against the insurrection. What are you reading???

[marcelthemaoist]

@StimulatedMindz This is a myth. Stalin was a member of the Bolsheviks before Trotsky, organizing strikes, editing the paper and pulling robberies to get funds for the party when Trotsky was editing Novy Mir (Menshevik Paper) while sipping coffees in a New York Cafe. Trotsky didn't even join until 1917!

[marcelthemaoist]

@StimulatedMindz And actually, considering that Trotsky was not even on the central committee in October he took orders from people like Lenin, Stalin, Zinoviev, etc. anyways. I think you need to try doing your research better. This is not to discount the role Trotsky played in that time period and some other things he did well, but he was hardly special. In fact he spent more time trying to discredit Lenin than working with him.

[StimulatedMindz]

@marcelthemaoist Ummmm Stalin's 5 year plans were a direct rip-off of the planned economy which Trotsky had been advocating since the implementation of NEP. Stalin played the role of moderate until he sufficiently isolated Trotsky, and his former triumvirate partners. With all opposition out of the way, Stalin took Trotsky's ideas of a planned economy and implemented with ruthlessness. So maybe before you tell other people to read history, you should give it a closer reading yourself.

[marcelthemaoist]

@StimulatedMindz Lenin actually came up with NEP similar ideas were proposed by Trotsky, Zinoviev, Bukharin, etc. So is that your great homage to Trotsky? That he came up with NEP? So I guess Khrushchev, Deng, and Raul Castro are all trots right now. lol

[TheCharacterActor]

MY GOD! He looks just like him.

[oliaiguambfigues76]

was that trotski of groucho marx?

[borisjakovljevic]

Galactic Lenin ;)

[sharadowasdr]

Cool ! Patrick Stewart is lenin! :D

[cpaslapeine]

Thanks for the upload. Could you upload more excerpts, please?